>FWD >automatic >4 door >software limiter people

>>13975809
FWD
IS
GOOD

>>13975819
Not necessarily good, just not awful if thr chassis itself is decent.

>>13975809
>automatic
>bad
I like to have a hamburger and fries while I drive thank you very much.

>>13975824
shut the fuck up dude

yeah I jack off with coconut oil try it

>>13975809
>tfw no 3 on the tree toyota cressida
anybody else crying?

So a rwd with the same setup isn't a piece of shit?

Get fucking real, people are mad that there's fwd faster than their cars now a days so all they do is shit post because they can't beat em at the light and they can't beat em on the track

>>13975827
Why?

>>13975843
thanks man
hate that people shit on my honda '98

>>13975843
There are always fast fwds, if a shitbox is rwd you can at least have some stupid fun with it in the winter or whatever.

FWD is worse than american "Sport" cars, because while they can't turn well, they can at least turn without killing you. lmao.

>>13975809
>>4 door
you no have friends?
you no have stuff?

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>>13975892
Go on m8

>>13976093
i have a trunk. i have friends with their own cars. we drive to sunset.

>>13976096
THIS PICTURES DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING WHEN THE CAR CANT BE IDENTIFIED

>>13976152
Factory five 818. Reverse image search really didn't work?

>>13976152
poseur detected.

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>>13975892
americans dont even need sports cars to be faster

>>13976178
>>13976167
its just a rwd sack of shit

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>>13976199
americans dont even make sports cars in the first place

>>13976200
>MR
>not objectively the best performance drivetrain
Pick one.

>>13976215
why the fuck would you post it in favor of FWDthen retard

>>13976212
Amazing what ten years of technological advancement does. Thats actuslly really impressive.

>>13976221
Also a decade of tire development will do wonders.

>>13976219
It's american and it turns really well, that was the point.

>>13976227
what does that have to do with the argument

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>>13976221
yup

sadly it doesnt work both ways

>>13976221
are you stupid? that type R had slicks and was stripped to hell. it wasn't even FWD it was MWD.

>>13976229
This post >>13975892

>>13976227
>subaru engine and transmission
>american

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>>13976221
>>13976212

>>13976231
Isn't that short-circuit vs full-circuit? That's amazing from the EK as well, although I have a feeling the camaro could be pushed much faster with the EKs driver if they are on the same length course.

>>13976234
Mid wheel drive, like a a 6 wheeled car with 2 wheels in the middle being driven?

>>13976234
>that type R had slicks and was stripped to hell.
citation needed

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>>13976212
the viper is considered a sports car

>>13976239
>>vast majority of car is American
>not american

>>13976244
>Isn't that short-circuit vs full-circuit?
what the hell are you talking about

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>>13975809
>5th gen prelude
>FWD
>automatic
>Spoon ECU
>turbo
>full exhaust

>>13976250
He is right that it was modified, but just with a cage. honda does say they don't count it as an official time and will retest at some point with a regular version.

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>>13976252
yeah but its considered italian aswell

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>all the straws being grasped to support FWD

lmao. end of the day you're polishing a turd.

>>13976258
Tsukuba has a layout where the second to last corner is cut and you go into the back straight earlier.

>>13976263
citation needed

the rollcage is for safety, every manufacturer adds one

>>13976266
tell me how it is other than the parent company being fiat?

>>13976266
>designed in america
>built in america
>by an american conpany
>not american

>>13976276
not even trying at this point

>>13976285
I'm 100% serious. This is just what I heard for the lap time of the ek though, dunno if its true.

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>>13976284
>>13976283

>engine made by lamborghini
>bills paid by fiat

>>13976292
>engine made by lamborghini
it was based off of a chrysler v8 buddy

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>>13976289
> This is just what I heard for the lap time of the ek though,

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>FWD
You win this one. First car, por student, city use tho.
>automatic
Totes. Why don't you get your daughter and wife a BBC while at it, you cůck? I bet you use that free hand to jack off your bull
>4 doors
S-sorry I have a social life, and a big family, senpai
>software limiter
Absolutely heretic

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>>13976292
>first gen prototype engines co developed by chrysler and lambo
>thinking the current engine has anything lambo in it
>paying money now counts towards making car

>>13976296
>it was based off of a chrysler v8 buddy
citation needed

>>13976311
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viper_engine

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>>13976306
>denial

the iron v8 and v10 protos were developed by chrysler, the aluminium production was made by lamborghini

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>>13976315
>wikipedia as a source

come on, they dont even mention iron prototype engines

>>13976318
Not 100% sure of the facts about the first gen so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you do realize that's only thr first gen engine right?

>>13976327
Yes they do you fucking illiterate shit

>>13976328
the engine is the same across all generations, only the 4th one was modified with different bore sizes and new hemi like heads

>>13976327
yes they do, under first-generatioon

>>13976339
Is that why its power has been increased every generation and not just from third to fourth?

>>13976234
This is my favourite conspiracy theory

It can't be fast on its own terms, honda must've cheated, right? Lmao what s fuccboi

>>13976335
>>13976340
>The Viper V10 is based on the Chrysler LA engine family, and appeared with the Dodge Viper in 1992. It was conceived and prototyped as a Magnum 5.9 with two extra cylinders and a longer stroke of 3.88 in (99 mm).

tell me where does it mentions the word iron in this paragraph

>Chrysler engineers revamped Dodge's cast-iron block V10 for the Viper[citation needed] by recasting the block and heads in aluminum alloy. Prototype blocks were cast by Lamborghini, at the time a Chrysler division.
it does here


and again, it doesnt even mention the v8 prototypes

>>13976361
To be fair almost every manufacturer gunning for 'ring times cheats a bit I think.

>>13976365
the chrysler LA is a v8

>>13976365
>iron prototype engines mentioned
>based off of the magnum mentioned
Eat shit.

All that you asked for.

>>13976373
> appeared with the Dodge Viper in 1992

the 92 viper already had the lamborghini v10, i am talking about late 80's prototypes
http://www.allpar.com/cars/viper/prototype.html


>>13976377
you dont even know what is being discussed buddy

no production viper engine is iron and no production viper engine is based on the magnum v10 or in an LA

>>13976296
Lamborghini helped with the block and crank

>>13976388
they built the prototype iron v10 from the LA v8, then changed to aluminum

so yes, the production engine is based of a v8 chrysler LA engine

>>13976388
I have literally never seen a level of reading comprehension this poor in my entire life. If you can't figure out basic sentence and paragraph continuity over age 18 consider ending your life.

>>13976400
>so yes, the production engine is based of a v8 chrysler LA engine

except it isnt, if you belive you can fit any part from a 360 v8, you are wrong

the engine oil, water and heads also have nothing to do with it


an engine sharing bore and size stroke doesnt mean it is "based" on another one

>>13976406
>all this mad because he doesnt understand what is being discussed here

>>13976432
did i say parts were interchangeable? no

did i say it was based off a chrysler v8? yes

and it was, the engineers used the v8 as abase to build a v10

>>13976439
I do, you just can't interpret the responses people give you correctly

>>13976445
>did i say it was based off a chrysler v8? yes
this is wrong tho, an engine having same bore and stroke sizes doesnt mean its based on it, the oil, water, crankshaft, head, pistons etc are completly different
the iron v8 proto had a 360 LA, and the iron p'rotytpe was based on that v8

the aluminium engine is different and was made by lamborghini


>the engineers used the v8 as abase to build a v10
lol

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>fwd, chevy designed lambo engine, and burgerking memes all in one

i feel accomplished

the 8 liter viper engine is italian and the 8.3 is made by mclaren, why are you even arguing facts?

>>13976508
>build a iron v10 from a v8
>change that iron v10 to aluminum v10
>this magically changes that the engines design stemmed from a v8

you dont understand how history works do you?

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>>13976527
>change that iron v10 to aluminum v10
except that is wrong

you cannot simply cast the same iron design in aluminium

just the fact alone that aluminium blocks have to be redesigned from thei iron counterparts is proof enough of how its not the same

Ok. Trying to follow argument that's going on, but I'm not all here. This is a really short run down of development of the engine.
I will post some citations at the end.

Chrysler developed the viper engine off the V10 magnum truck engine, which was in turn based off the LA V8.
Lambo did help with design of the engine, as they had expertise in the matter. Mainly helping change it from iron to aluminum.

Still not really sure what that one guy is on about.
But it all started with calling the snek italian. But to be honest it's not. Lambo did help yes, but it's was still over seen and produced by americans, and there is much more to a car than an engine.

If I've fucked up do ask something specific and I'll research more.
But don't ask why I did this, cocaine is a hell of a drug.

http://www.allpar.com/model/viphist.htm

www.hotrod.com/cars/featured/how-the-viper-engine-got-its-horsepower/

https://theviperstore.com/Information_Viper_Gen1_1992-1996_Page_4.htm

>>13976545
well no shit, but it doesnt change the fact that the engines life started (originally) as a v8

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>>13976546
>Chrysler developed the viper engine off the V10 magnum truck engine

u wot

http://www.hotrod.com/cars/featured/how-the-viper-engine-got-its-horsepower/

>It’s not the truck engine. If you went through it, we shared, like, one part. A bolt or something. It was much more like the A-engine.”

>>13976556
yes, but it also doesnt mean it was not designed by lamborghini

why would I care if I never go over 70 and just use the car to run around

>>13976566
never said it wasnt, i just said the v10 was based off a chrysler v8

>>13976557
All indications say that it was still started from the truck engine. I never said that it was.
I used the three sites to try to piece something together. Whatever seemed the the most consistent I went with.
But I'm pretty fucked up so it's possible nothing I say is true.

But still, the main point was that the car was italian which it's not. Not to say that italians didn't have a hand, but the car is still quite american.

>>13976584
That it was the truck engine*

Main point of that being that the engine itself went through a massive design process, but you can ultimately trace it back to the truck engine, then the LA V8.

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>>13976579
>different oil and water passages
>different heads
>different crankshaft for the first 8 cylinders
>different block

>based on a v8

having the same bore and stroke is not being based on

the one that was based on a chrysler LAwas the iron prototype

>>13976631
>engine is based off a v10 iron prototype
>which was based off a v8
>somehow history changes and the new engine never stemmed from the v8
i repeat again, you dont know how history works do you?

>>13976631
You are right.
But maybe it should be said loosely based on.
Without it, it is possible they may have not got to the V10, and then not the Aluminum V10 in the viper.

And I really really feel like this is just alphonse.
But I hope it's not, cause I almost refuse to respond to him

>>13976657
look buddy, im not going to spend all night arguing wirh a rock here, you cannot cast an iron engine with aluminium without modyfying it

lamborghini had to extensively modify the iron v10 prototype, the heads are different, the oil and water passages are different, the crank is different

if you still belive an engine with different heads, different pistons, different intake and exhaust mainfold, different block etc etc is still the same you are beyond hope

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>>13976675
im not alphone

fuck ford tbqhwy

>thinking RWD is a meme

you faggots don't know the first thing about physics. Front tires do the majority of the work when braking and cornering. Asking them to do the work of accelerating is just inefficient, from a physics standpoint. You get less total force down onto the pavement before you lose grip.

FWD sucks dick for any kind of performance. It's good because it's cheap, that's it.

>>13975809
Sounds like a recipe for a reliable DD

>>13976685
lmao you seem to be the rock

all i've been saying is that the engine was BASED off a v8

that means that the design stemmed from the v8, into a iron v10, then into the aluminum v10

which means that the aluminum v10 stemmed from the v8

>>13975819
this is bait

>>13976694
Just cause you say you're not doesn't mean you aren't.
But I'll choose to believe it.

I also am not a fan of ford.
Really more of a chevy guy, but I'm open to anything with an engine.

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>>13976723
look buddy

alphone has been taking ALL the credit for my GTR vs Corvette shitposting for the past two weeks

fuck that furryfag

>>13976685
>look buddy, im not going to spend all night arguing wirh a rock here, you cannot cast an iron engine with aluminium without modyfying it
this isn't true

personally i dont mind FWD too much, but what i personally hate about my car is that age faster than i can reach 30 and its an auto.
Im soon going to trade it in for a 2009 wrx

>>13976741
Look buddy.

Ok.

In my own opinion, I prefer the gtr. But it has nothing to do with anything and I haven't really been paying attention to those.

Honestly, this site wouldn't be what it is without shitposting, it's just alphonse I don't like, I think because he's a furry.

>>13975809

>tfw this describes my volvo 850

at least i have a mr2 to amend 3 of those.