What? The new Toyobaru wont be a Toyobaru but a Be-emyota????

>>13973163
forgott links

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-z5-2017-vorschau-5257988.html

http://www.autobild.de/marken-modelle/bmw/z5/1/

http://www.autobild.de/bilder/vorschau-bmw-z5-toyota-gt68-5258882.html#bild1

>>13973163
If BMW has anything to do with an engine it will be junk

>>13973163

Well, given that the 86 was such a horrific performance disappointment and a sales disaster (after all the fanboys bought theirs), and 90% of the problem was that FA20 turd engine Subaru shitted into the engine bay...

>>13973176
>"muh low center of gravity"
>"muh reciprocation"

>>13973167
bmw still makes great engines, they just are placing way too much emphasis on numbing the driving experience. Toyota is doing the opposite with lexus thankfully

it has plenty of reasons to be good

>>13973167
Excellent meme!

>>13973176
>>13973180
Would have been a much better car with a revised 2ZZ.

>>13973183
>>13973184
Srsly tho.
BMW engines are overcomplicated garbage

>>13973163
this explains why germans are shit at building cars

>>13973176
It wasnt a disaster at all sales wise. It sold better than Toyota and Subaru thought it would. It performed just fine to everyone except bench racers.

>>13973207
>It wasnt a disaster at all sales wise.
>this is what fanboys actually believe

They projected 75,000 annual sales and on their best year (the first, hype, fanboy buying) year did 50. About 35 the next year, and now they're down in the 12s

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090466_poor-sales-of-toyota-gt-86-scion-fr-s-likely-to-rule-out-new-variants

This was in 2014, just after the twins limped over the 100,000 mark.

>>13973193
I don't like BMW but their engines are the only thing that's great about them. They make good power/torque, they're relatively fuel efficient, they have good torque curves, and they're smooth.

>>13973163

So I see they are panning to the homosexual crowd by making a convertible version.

/o/ should love it, then.

>>13973193
haha, what? are you dumb? BMW is probably the best big-brand engine maker in the world at the moment...

>>13973262
There were more toyobarus sold in 3 years than Honda S2000s in their entire production.

>>13973535
Hard to compare since the S2000 was much more expensive when new. However, the FRS sold better than any other performance car in it's price range for the first 2 years besides the pony cars. I might be wrong but I think it sold more than the Challenger too.

>>13973163
>1500kg
>God machine
>Even good at all

>>13973272
whaaaat? i am a bmw fanboy and the only critic about bmw i 'allow' is that their eingines are complicated to repair?

what else do you dont like about bmw?

The exterior design ok, some models are good some not so good.
But the Interior is fucking awesome. for me its one of the most important things in a car. its the shit you see all the time while driving
>that red light
>that easy control of everything
>that simple design
its not a fucking spaceship like audi
bmw has for the main features buttons and for the rest this iDrive dongle. Audi has for evry fucking little function its own button. if you dont drive it daily you have to search for it for hours

and i dont think we have to talk about this goat handling...

so what are your problems with bmw if its not the engine?

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>>13973176
>>13973180
>>13973187
friendly reminder subaru has an FA engine making 300 hp

friendly reminder it was toyoshit fault and their N/A faggotry

proceed to kill youselves now

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>>13973163
I really hope that isn't the final design, that beltline is fucking disgusting. That seam between the hood and A pillar needs to be flush with the height of the door sill line, not higher than it.

This rendering looks a bit better though.

>>13973163
It will be the first unreliable Toyota if it actually happens.

0/10 would not buy if BMW has literally anything to do with it

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>>13973800
>not posting the car with said based 300hp FA

>>13973167
>>13973193
BMW has literally been producing the best engines in the market for decades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Engine_of_the_Year

>>13974255
they're doing the whole
>german engineering overcomplicated garbage unreliable everything breaks
meme.
and to be fair, the engineers have a bad habit of using plastics in just the wrong places for weight savings or using cheap rubber for seals which then leak

>>13973200
/thread

>>13973909
It can't be. If they are aiming for an affordable sports-car, it wouldn't have a super-exotic-sports car look. It will somewhat look like the SF-R.

>>13973163
If it's a Z4 successor that means it won't be exactly cheap. It'll be good, but not GAWDMASHEEN prices.

>>13973800
Next gen Toyobaru just needs to have the WRX engine. It would be mind blowingly good with that.

>>13974394
go away Scotty Kilmer

not all cars are cheaply engineered like your Ford Mustang

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>>13975254
>literally talking shit like you know what it is
i am intimately aware of bmw engines

however! it's minor quibbles, their stuff is great. It just always baffles me some of the decisions they make. Usually the engine is solid and incredible but everything around it (cooling system, fuel delivery, turbos) are the problem.....aside from just leaky seals on the engine in general

>>13974870
the german article says its expected to cost 35000 eur and above
thats like 40k $

>>13975360
38k*

>>13975348
Hey googlecarfag, how stupid would I have to be to buy an early E90 335i with an N54 with over 100k miles on it?

>>13973909
>Every car needs to look like the GTR

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>implying the god machine hasn't already been built for a whIle

>>13973167
spotted the memekid who doesn't own a car

>>13973909
No that looks like fucking shit and way worse than the one op posted.

>>13977429
Is That A Mazda Cosmo ? I Really Like The Interior ... Not Popular Outside Of Japan Though .

>>13977429

Damn right

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>>13977470

>>13977506
Is That Goofy ? L O L What A Rad Photo ...
My Apologies -- I Realize Now That Is A Nissan . The Cosmo Looked Very Similar In Its Last Generation .

Now -- What Would One Have To Do To Import Such A Car ? Does Anybody Know ?

Thanks All .

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>>13977557
My Apologies -- I Just Realized In Another Topic That It May Be The Way I Type That Makes Everyone Here Treat Me Differently . Well , I Do It Because There Is A Distinct Lack Of Bolds And Italics And : Fonts . I Believe It's Easier To Get My Tone Across This Way, And I Hope It Doesn't Continue To Bother You All.

Thanks For Being Patient As I Get Familiar With The Site.

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>>13977549
my new favorite poster

>>13977572
Thanks For Your Reply . I Know I Made A Silly Error But Isn't That What Makes Us Human In The First Place ? Stay In Touch With Yourself I Always Say .

Thanks Again For Your Reply And Please See My Above Post If You're Confused By My Typing , As Many May Be !

>>13977470
>>13977549
>>13977571
Just came off a b&, is this a new evolution of shitposting? Looks pretty dank to me.

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this nigga be talking like the cardians from FFXI with all the random capitalization and symbols and shit

>>13977582
I Have Been Getting That Since I Started Clicking The Reply Button . Please Refer To My Above Post .

I Am A Little Unfamiliar With Your Term Shitposting But I Think I Can Infer The Meaning !

Hopefully You Understand ... !

>>13977589
Honest question, roughly how old are you? I think you might have found this site by mistake.

>>13977589
lurk more

>>13977591

you sound like you carry wine coolers and disney dvds in your trunk t b h

>>13977589
Can you randomly hold up your spork for me?

>>13977598
No, I think this poster is middle aged to retired and has somehow mistaken this shitpost-fest for an actual car advice forum.

>>13977591
I'm Assuming If I Click The Numbers When I Want To Refer To A Different Post That It Will Organize The Post For Me .
I Am 54 Years Young And Have A Passion For Mostly Classic Cars . I Was Linked To This Site From A Newfound Enthusiast I Recently Met Online . So Far I Have Only Visited The Car And Video Game Boards . I See There Are Several More And Will Probably Stay In These Two Until I Get Used To The Site . THANK YOU !

>>13977595
I Assume By Lurk You Mean Sit Still And Watch? Well , I Like To Get My Feet Wet But That's Just Me . Thank You .

>>13977600
My Previous Quoting In My Post Worked !
I Had To Search For An Image Of Said Spork . L O L I Don't Know Why I Expected Anything Else. Who Would Design Such A Useless Piece Of Plastic ?
>>13977603
I Said I'm 53 And I Don't Think That Matters , I Have Been Driving Before Most Of You Were Born . I Caught A Glimpse Of Someone Talking About How They Hate The Design Of New Cars And I Could Not Agree More . They Look Like Soap To Me ! No Thanks ! And The Ridiculous Emissions Software -- You Have To Be Kidding Me ...

Thank You Both .

has gook moot been pushing 4chan on AARP affiliates?

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>>13977591
>>13977595
>>13977598
>>13977603
>>13977627

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>Granny likes her muscle.

>>13977686
Hey Webmaster -- Someone Is Using My Name . I'm Not Sure Why They Were Able To Use The Same Name But Unless They Happen To Be Another Val McInsley I Suggest You Change Their Screen Name !

>>13977701
This.

I Demand You Ban >>13977701

>>13977708
Stop . You're Uneducated And Annoying . Anyone Can Tell You're Not Me ... Get A Clue , Really .

>>13977716
How many drinks have you had in the past hour?

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This thread is worse than hoc

>>13977716
Mods. Mods. >>13977716

>>13977724
None . I Don't Drink As A Rule . Read My Posts On The Fitness Board . I Am An Avid Hiker And Trail Grinder ...
>>13977734
Please For Fart's Sake Stop This .

>>13977741
Not Until You Leave.