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Apex pls y u no add mi white car.
I am dissapoint.

>>13969226
Cuz ur not cuul like us B)

>>13969226
Whiskey made the banner not me. Also why did you import a 240 to euroland? Just curious

>>13969226
Probably to be usdm tyte yo

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>>13968746
>>13968746
yay or nay?

$100+shipping

http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/gktech-replacement-engine-fan-nissan-s13-s14-240sx-silvia.html

>>13969969
I would definitely just recommend getting a new radiator and efans

>>13970058
any recommendations?
been looking at isis/ISR or mishimoto

but im afraid of leaks, the stock one still holds up well more or less but no leaks yet

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>>13970103
Koyo is best if you want to go down that road. Gktech fans are decent if you don't want to go through the hassle of setting up twin thermos.

I run standard radiator in my car with twin thermo's from a falcon (strayan POS). Running 21 psi through an rb20 and never had it get over 90 degrees

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>>13970160
Really need to stop posting this picture.

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>>13970160
;^)

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>>13970183
Aw thanks man!

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>>13970160
>>13970166
>>13970183
neat im running the ka24e sadly, im trying to make my shit a reliable dd with the occasional touge night. here it is at the place i got it

I'm running clutch fan with koyo radiator right now

>>13970103
Altima fans my man

>>13970297
i have a set i got from the junkyard but im reading that their useless without some sort of shroud, also wiring seems like a pain in the ass

>>13970285
do you use the stock shroud or is it possible to use it?

im so confuse im leaving it stock for now but the stock clutch fan does have a lot of cracks and shit on it

>>13970313
Pretty sure you can buy shrouds for thermo fans, just have a google

>>13970238
What's your plans for it? If it's for a comfortable dd and a weekender I can give you some ideas on what works well.

>>13969592
>>13969609

Because CA18DET's fucking suck. And the car only cost me like 1500 euro. A 200sx with ca18 will cost you like 3.5k for a rusted to fuck one over here. And 180sx are like 6-7k.

I sourced another ka24e locally for 200 euro, and i'm dropping that into the grey 200sx shell. CA18/SR20 will cost you at least like 1200.

When both cars are done, i'm planning to turbo them with t04e ebay turbos, lug type manifold, ca18 injectors with resistor removed and safc-ii's. Goal is 200-230 horsepower, and it'll be fun enough to skid around. Hell, even stock KA24E was fun with a solid clutch and welded diff.

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>>13970394
dont really care for comfort lol i just want to make it dependable as i can with being able to take the turns i throw at it with out it diying on me like the z32 did, pretty sure from oil starvation from the previous owner since i always checked the oil when i got it and it fucked a rod bearing out of nowhere fucking up the crank shaft clearances and im assuming it was from oil overheating and starvation since it would get pretty hot

mfw it ded

>>13970396
CA>SR

>>13970437
Ahh I see. Yeah I have a mate with a z32 (pic related) spends more time sat around than being driven.

>>13970285
are you me?

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>>13970481
Forgot pic

>>13970230
Where did you get your kouki tail lights

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>>13970491
Off a dude who lives round the corner from me. Fairly easy to get here in straya, swapped my old crystals and $250 for them

>>13970481
A stock, well maintained CA18 is a nice engine, but impossible to find one that isn't completely fucked over here w/o a rebuild.

>>13970501
Fuck so hard to get a hold of here on vancouver island

>>13970487
thats a beutiful pair
its a lot nicer than mine lol

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>>13970487
>tfw I see a 240z, Celica GT-S and a e36 m3 driving by when I was eating lunch today

I would kill to run the mountains around here with them.

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http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/5310419892.html

Would these be worth getting for my 240? Is it legal to adapt them?

also moved my stickers

>>13970799
Theyre already 4x114.3 so no adapters needed. Seems like a Nice extra set.

>>13970160
How often do you beat on it?
Ever get past too hot?
I cut about an inch and some into my radiator support so I could fit the rb20 with the clutch fan in my coupe. Never liked doing it tho

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>>13970396
>Talkin' shit 'bout mai enginefu.

>>13969226
>>13969592

I'll add it next time I update the banner

I guess I'll just put it in another spot next to your other one. What would be better tho is if you could give me a wide shot of both cars from the side

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Finally replaced my missing bumper garnish. Feels fucking legit my negroids

>>13971411
nice google maps picture loser

>>13970507
Ebay? Either that or there's a dude in japan called jesse streeter who imports shit, I'll try get his email adress

>>13970512
The paint on that z32 is fucked haha, just looks nice from a distance

>>13970512
Pretty much everytime I take my car out in the hills I come across someone going for a drive and have some fun.

>>13970954
It gets a decent amount of work, but never had over heating problems. Seen a few people run clutch fans on rb swaps but I prefer the thermo setup, mine pump out some serious air just sat on the spot.

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>>13970507
>>13971686

His email is [email protected]

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>>13971707
oh shit thanks
sent an email and hopefully he replies

previous posts was me on my phone

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>>13971721
he got back to me and showed me what was available
this one looks like the best option

$500 tho
fucking ouch

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>>13971781
Eh that's not too bad. You'd be paying the same if not more from anyone else. He can get pretty much anything in you need so if you get stuck send him a message.

Also type x tails have different wiring to standards so you can buy adaptors for them which plug and play or fuck about with a soldering iron and wire them up yourself.
Had play with clay bar a while ago and this is my bonnet, some good shit mayne

>>13970799
>advans
Do it faggot

>>13971928
thats some nice ass paint familia

from the thumbnail it looked like bird shit tho

>>13971928

nice but i wouldnt mind claying my car 2 hours, i use a spray which makes my coat feel silky smooth and it takes 10 minutes for the whole car.

>>13970238
hey guise im this fag

so my digital cluster and dash lights are kaputt is there a fix?

i read around online and have some resistors on hand or could it be just a short?

it only ever turned on once

any tips? or should i hunt for a regular one?

>>13971463
Stay jelly fuckhead ;)

>>13970313
I'm using the stock shroud. It's a bit of a pain to put the fan on with the thicker radiator but it's not too bad. You'll have to move the receiver drier over a bit.

>>13970313
I think ducting is more important than a shroud for e-fans. But I don't use e-fans so I don't know

>>13970483
Yes

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Guys what should I watch out for before buying a 240sx? I cant fond any stock and I've been searching for a year and a half. What are big red flags

>>13974661
Check the panel gaps for uniformity all around, it will generally tell you if it's been wrapped around a tree before or not.

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>>13974601
>Yes
ayy lil mayo

Do I buy? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/5342783341.html

>>13974721
Jesus Christ. Uhh what would your plans for this poor thing be?

>>13974721

Not worth 1500 it looks like a shitheap

You can find a better one just wait

>>13974721
>$1000 with out wheels
That really isn't horrible.

The timing is concerning, is he talking about the timing chain, or adjust the distributor? Not a bad starting place if you're wiling to spend money to get it where you want.

>>13974721
>>13974800
I live in San Jose too and jfc the pickings are slim

>>13974721
>>13974922
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/5334906301.html
What's wrong with this one?

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>>13973413
Yeah that is a shitty picture of it, this ones better but facing the wrong way.

>>13973947
Was alot of effort, think I spent about 3 hours doing it but it lasted for a few months with a quick rinse every now and then. Good shit.

>>13975132
Twice the price

>>13974661
>>13974676
this

+rust

>>13975214
Four times as not shitty. I bet he'd take 2500 too

Oh cool, a post about these cars.

I'm thinking about getting one of these as a project car. My other car is also a so-called "enthusiast car" (BRZ) but I don't really want to do much to it because the plan is to trade it in for something more practical (an STi). So I'm hoping getting a 240SX would be what I need to cure my thirst for wrenching.

How do you guys find the car to be to work on? I would say I can probably work on cars at an intermediate level, I've never pulled a motor or done a full transmission swap but I've done suspension work and all normal maintenance on my cars before just fine.

I'm thinking of going with a motorless chassis if I get one, because I'd likely want to drop an SR20 or RB20 in straight away. Is this the kind of thing anyone here has done?

>>13975377

Oh, the other car I'd consider if I didn't do a 240 is the first gen Impreza. They're two different cars but does anyone have any experience comparing the two?

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>>13975377

the 240sx is basically the BRZ/FRS of the 90s. Cheap, good handling, and an underpowered engine.

and yeah it's a pretty easy car to work on. Fairly large engine bay for a 4banger so there's usually enough room to work with. If you're looking for a project just buy a shell or one that's not running.

>>13975132

That one looks pretty nice, as long as there's not hidden problems with it. Body looks mostly clean which might be worth the extra money. I paid 2100 for mine but it looked like shit (pic related) when I bought it and I had to dump a bunch more money into buying new body pieces for it, and it's a miracle that they're all still the same color.

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what would you say is the most similar car to a 240sx?

if you were to trade in your s-chassis for a cheap (>$5k), relatively light weight, agile, handling-oriented RWD 4 seater, but didnt want to pay the 240 drift tax, what would you go for?

ive heard people say foxbody mustangs (but they handle terrible), 944 (kinda fancy), FC rx7 (even though 4 seater tend to be rare)...

are there other comparable cars? Or is the 240 perfect for what it is, and the over pricing is worth it in the end?

>>13979661
older rwd Celica

>>13979689
like the A60 3rd gen ones?

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Got me some of them jdm taillights for superior... Looks. Found a niggly little boost leak and back to rockin' 16 psi. Trying to find dudes to run with in my local mountains in brisbane, Australia but so many dudes are flakey posers. Noone actually wants to drive their cars. Is this a problem for ameribros?

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>>13979661

the whole 4 seater thing is kinda a lie though. The seats are too small to actually use. It's really just a 2 seater with some space in the back to throw shit.

so really I feel like the most similar car is a miata

>>13979845

>Is this a problem for ameribros?
yes. Most car meets are full of vape n' scrape fuckboys

>>13980463

bump

Ive been thinking about not bothering to swap in a manual transmission and just do a full rb20 swap

Am i insane
Is rb20 good for its price

>>13982863

do you have another car to daily in case it breaks? Because it will

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>>13983434
>rb20
>break

Kek. Things to replace on rb20:
>CAS
>afm/maf (go z32 afm and get a retune)
>splitfire coilpacks and a new ignitor because the standard ones crap out after 20 years and splitfires are much cheaper than oem
>do all your hoses/vac lines
>twin thermo setup on standard rad is more than enough

240kw out of an unopened 23 year old engine and still have 150 psi across all six, you can't kill them, I've tried.

>>13983600
>swapping an RB20 into an S-chassis
Why do people do this?

>>13983603
Because sr20's are shite and CA's are slow

>>13983613
>sr20s are shite
>swapping in a motor that's heavier and longer with the same displacement
If you're going RB at least get a 25. Kinda pointless imo to get an RB20 when you stil lend up with a 2.0l anyway.

>>13983622
>not realising sr20's are shit
You obviously haven't owned one

>implying 50 kg makes such a big difference that it's noticable

Do you remove your sound deadening to save 15kg? It's like the difference between a full tank of fuel. I've driven both sr and my rb s chassis and my car handles better than those I've driven because of the suspension setup.

Rb25's are nice but they are almost impossible to legally do in straya, plus they take as much abuse as a 20 will. 20's lose compression over time but will still go strong for years, 25's throw big ends and rods. The 25 is a better engine for making power, and if you go a neo 25 you shouldn't have any drama's but when you can buy a good condition rb20 for $500 with a gear box for another $400 you pay more than double that for an rb25 setup. 25 boxes go for $1200 here, and good condition long blocks are about $1500-$2000.

>>13983603
>>13983622
Because RB20s bolt in using the standard mounts and only need minor wiring loom changes.

They sound better and are stronger than SR20 and can make a lot more power because they're much more happy to rev.

>>13983698
>almost impossible to legally do in straya
You must live in a shit state, providing you've done suspension, brakes and some basic bracing it'll pass engineering in NSW without a drama.

>>13983710
Every state has different laws. We have to go through engineering, torsional rigidity tests, cone weaving, 100-0 times with and without weights, full regency inspection and emmsions testing. All up it costs big money to do for even a 20 swap, and 25 swaps aren't as easy to pass as you it'd be in NSW. We don't have mod plates or anything like your setup.

>>13983726
See we don't do any of that shit, a lot more emphasis is placed on the inspector themselves. So essentially as long as you do it properly and it's not floppy, handles and stops as well as it should, then you're all set. Some inspectors can be a bit anal in regards to making sure you use shit like high strength bolts in the right places but that's fair enough.

I just like the RB20 swap because there's no fucking around with the subframe or any of that. Rebuild it, throw it in and have a good sounding engine that will rev to 7500-8000 without trying to eat itself like an SR

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>>13983752
Yeaah that's a much better way of doing it but we have shit laws. Anything that looks shiny they defect us for. Once got pulled over by a cop with my mate in his r33 and the cop opens the bonnet and asks "have you got a blow off valve?" Even though there was a massive one sat in the most obvious spot with "BOV" written on it in big bold letters. Most cops here have no clue what they're looking at and just defect for suspicion.

Yeah they're a good little engine, never have any problems with mine and the way they rev is so much fun

>>13983773
How's the turbo going?

Been eyeing them off for a while now and they seem like they might actually be alright

>>13983786
They're pretty decent, heaps of guys here in SA run them without problems, mines running 21 psi through it pretty easy so far. Pulled off the intake last week to check fot shaft play and it was still nice and tight.

>>13983698
>>13983706
I know SRs are shit.
I just wouldn't swap an RB20 in.

>>13983791
Nice, i probably wouldn't run that much so that's pretty promising.

Can you guys imagine the next 10 years when china becomes the next japan? Everything being rock solid but dirt cheap at the same time.

>>13983802
Easiest swap brah, best way to get out of a CA/SR

>>13983706
Wait so it just drops in with different mounts?
That sounds pretty easy

>>13984520
Yea rb20 subframe i believe, bolts right in.

>>13985883
Cefiro x member and mounts then you're sweet because ceffy's and s chassis are pretty much identical in the front end other than the rb.

>>13985883
>>13987416
Sheit y'all making me want an rb20 now.

>>13983600

I wasn't referring to RB20s breaking, more just a first time engine-swapped car in general

idk to be honest tho I've never done one yet myself

>>13983817
CA >>> SR
That said I wouldn't mind dropping an FJ20 into a Silvia. That's the easiest swap possible
Just change to coils and it will run off all of the existing wiring and ecu

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>>13988840
>>13983802
>>13983698
>>13983613

so why are SRs shit? curious why you guys think so

>>13988916
>2015
>not knowing why SRs are shit

>>13988916
lolbearings
sound like tractors

They're not bad engines it's more of a meme

I'm not even gonna bother posting my POS that's been sitting for almost a year and will probably continue sitting. Dad and I might fix a fucked connector today, already got a new one off some celica 2.0 engine just need to solder it on.

It's a '89 pignose ca

>>13988840
didn't read the thread, but the best thing about CA's are that they're very cheap and can take some abuse, but they're notorious for spinning rod bearings and blowing head gaskets

>>13989018
They are also notorious for being owned by shitheads who can't take care of their oil
Notorious for being over rev'd as well. It's a great engine stock, but if you want to get more power out of it well that will take some money...

Friends co-worker has a 300hp CA (probably 300hp at crank) they own a shop. Guy kept changing head gaskets due to overheating. So I asked the friend what the fuck is up with his engine
"It's not really the engine, it's him"
He's got a rb25 now that he's about to drop into the car, but let's see how long that one lasts.

We're any of you red hatch bros driving around in Georgetown just south of Seattle last night?

Don't see many S-Chassis bros around here.

>>13991684
Did you happen to see a red hatch, white coupe and green s14 all together? A few of my buddies and I were cruising around last night.

>>13991684
>>13991757

>tfw no schassis bros
>tfw no car bros at all in this fucking town

>>13991796
I was lucky enough to meet some guys in highschool and helped them fix their first beaters, from there we started working on other junk and I taught them about cars. Now we all have our own cars and occasionally cruise when not busy with school. I meet A lot of people at car meets, just find the group of guys who aren't vaping and swaggy looking and they'll usually be nice guys.

>>13991757
It was a red hatch, It was playing with me in my red hatch. I wasn't paying attention for any other cars though.

>>13988988
post anyways

>>13993728
Nah that wasn't us then, we were all in a group doing shenanigans and another couple a chassis guys came and cruises with us. One was a red hatch

>>13988916
Because when you buy an sr20 you're garunteed to end up blowing it up. They can be pretty good engines if built correctly but to drop a standard one in and make more than 300hp is asking for trouble.

>>13993898
hey hit me up sometime. I would love to find some more 240 bros

>>13994187
Next time there is a Washington meet thread, ask to join the kik group. We can maybe organize another cruise sometime.

>>13968746
SCG I have a few questions! First any quirks or issues with the 91 240 with a KA24DE? I'm looking at a auto one I'll use as a DD.

>>13995026
Its got 140K on the odo too. It also has had a lot done to it, it has new water pump, thermostat, gasket and housing, distributor cap and rotor, plugs and wires, Electric E-Fan, valve cover gasket, radiator and hoses, new ignition coil, battery, alternator, starter, fuel pump, fuel filter and lines, air filter, oil and filter, new front and rear brakes and tires. Tien coil overs

>>13983706
RB20's ARE NOT BETTER THAN SR20'S

RB20
>Shit aftermarket support
>hard to get parts for
>makes shit power with a shitton of money
>heavier than sr
>revs slower than SR


>b-b-but its out of a skyline
you have a shit engine that makes shit power, the only reason to get it is cause of "its a skyline motor"

the only reason I would get an RB20 is because
>sounds better than SR
>cheap af

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After prowlin the WWW i found some people saying its too hard to find parts for the rb20 now and id be better off with the rb25

Is that true and would the rb25 drop into a 240 like the rb20 does

>>13988916
People don't build them & add too much boost, or run to light an oil, go hard, then spun bearings happen.
They're all really avoidable common problems, but most people with SR's just abuse them & redline the shit of them without proper maintenance because it's in they're half assed drift car.

>>13995484
You are retarded.

Plenty of guys here run standard 20's with a big td06 on e85 and make 300kw without any dramas. You run that through a standard sr and let me know how you go in 3 months time. Everyone scraps sr's here after they blowvup their 3rd one because they are shit unless you soend big money on them.

>hurrr shit after market

You know that most of the shit you bolt onto to a 25 bolts straight on to a 20 you retard. A series 1 rb25 is practically a rb20 with .5 more litres and side feed injectors. Hot side is identical.

>revs slower than an sr

It also revs higher and doesn't destroy it's rockers.

>heavier

Yes

>makes shit power

An identical setup rb20 vs sr20 the rb20 will be making it's peak power higher than an sr20 and it would be a 3-4kw difference at most.

Nobody engine swaps rb's because they're out of a skyline, they engine swap them because they're tired of their shitty sr20's blowing up.

>>13996379
Getting a 25 into an s13 is a bit of a pain in the ass for bonnet clearance. Gotta look up how people have mounted them to make them sit lower, or maybe better off running an aftermarket plenum as that's generally the highest point on rb's.

>>13995042
>well maintained ka24de
Sweet Jesus that thing will run for at least another 100k buy it fgt and manual swap it later if you want to

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Buy this for $2500 OBO to DD?
it's literally the best S chassis I can find

what the ad says

Pros:
- 5 Speed
- Clean title
- Accident free!
- Dual Cam Ka (No knocks, no ticks, no smoke)
- Base Model
- Wingless rustfree hatch!
- Non sunroof! No worries of leaks!
- Polyurethane rear subframe bushings installed less than 2k miles ago!
- ACT Clutch
- ISIS Adjustable Rear Control Arms in Rear
- Welded Differential (or open, your choice!)
- Headlights go up and down!
- All lights work

Cons:
- Paint is faded
- Interior is stripped / only the front driver & passenger area has interior
- On steelies

Shiiiseeeeeet

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>>13996827
>tfw based wingless hatch and no sunroof
I'd get him down to 2k if possible. How many miles are on it?

>>13997865
Miles unknown
But look at it
Its probably abused to hell
>autospo
I dunno what to do, am I buying a project car, an S13 shell? I don't want to get fucked here

>>13997865
You did anythin new on ur car in the past 3-4 months apex

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>>13997865
There'd also a mt swap vert going for the same price with 153k miles
Are the verts any good?
Or should I try to get >>13996827

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>>13997992
I haven't really just been driving it. If I did I'd post it. 1600 miles on new engine.

>>13998054
Oh which one did you end up putting in? KA again?

Whats up with the old one

>>13998020
Well that vert definitely looks better, but who knows.

>>13998020
>convertible
>performance
>convertible
>not inherently slower and heavier

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>>13998144
Yeah another ka. Engine guy is rebuilding old one for someone else probably.

>>13998354
>redtop KA
its like putting GTR badges on a GTST

>>13998354
>hose from valve cover straight to intake
jeez. Enjoy your sludgy throttle body

I've had my 240 for a few months now, are these cars just naturally slow? Like my 3g Eclipse seems much faster. Is there something wrong and where could I start?

>>13998562
they're a platform
cheap
good handling
rwd
good sized engine bay for whatever fucking shit you want
stock they're going to be kinda weak if you're spoiled

>>13998020
>convertible s13
hahahahah
HAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OH MY FUCK
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHA

Any of you guys drift?

>>13998733
MY CAR HAS A DRIFT BUTTON BRO
HELLA FLUUUUUUUSH

>>13998733
Occasionally when it's raining out I'll gobslide around in an empty lot for a few mins. Its fun but not something I want to do too often with my daily, would definently Like to build a dedicated track car that can be driven to local track though.

>>13996540
Wow, thank you

I honestly did not know about this information, might actually consider an RB20 now

But what about the Hydraulic lifters?.

>>13999040
S chassis vert is PA THETIC

Takes away the good handling and solid chassis
Literally lmao at anyone who owns one

>>13999149
Rb25's and rb20's are both hydraulic lel. 25neo's and 26's are solid

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>>13998733

When my 240 was still red

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>>13999464

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>>13999477

>>13999149
You can spin an RB20 to 8000 with the hydro lifters while still being safe. Some aussie with a td06 and 380 something HP was spinning to 9000 or more in first in second gear to keep the boost up. Engine eventually died because it overheated, no thrown rods or valves hitting pistons or anything

RB25's don't like to rev as much, and aren't as tough as 20's, and seem to blow more than 20's. 20's seem to never die, they just lose compression over the years. 25's make power easier and obviously have a better powerband for a street car

easy parts availability for both in the US as well

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>>13999484
Last pic before i painted it white

>>13999412
where did he say rb25?
Hes asking about sr20 and rb20

>>13999170
Where is your S-Chassis?

>>14001501
It's in the shop

But cmon
Vert s chassis is bad
Admit it

>>14001535
Show us a picture, then I will say vert is bad

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am I cool enough to banner? Also, car is a sr20det shitbox, nothing special. just looking to chat with some s chassis dudes. Might get rocket bunny skirts to match pignose front end w/ lip, imo looks fuckin slick.

>>14001587
Noice brakes m8

>>14001587
Looks good man, I like it

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>>14001593
thanks, they're the only thing keeping me and my shit bucket with a turbo strapped to it from dying a terrible death in a tree.

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>>14001596
Thanks man, appreciated. I dog on it more than I should, but it has it's problems. It falls on its face - bucket load of wiring issues. Going to swap in a WS harness, i mean you bump it in different places to get a variety of different effects. My friend bumped the harness form the ecm to the firewall and almost killed the fuel pump while just outside the fire wall it will ramp up the idle. Fucking ridiculous.

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>>14001615
the windshield sticker is what most people hate overall but I thought it was cool, never have payed attention to it while driving, and havent been pulled over yet.

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>>13996540
can confirm, no one cares that the rb20 is from the skyline after they've blown up a dumpster load of sr20s. will be heading that route once i pop this ShitloRd20.

>>13998744
>>13998849
>>13999464
What's the point of owning a 240 if it's not a drift car? You guys aren't hispanics who think 240s are sports cars are you?

>>14003144
kill urself

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Can anyone tell me if the rear rs13 lights can be polished? The ones on my car are kinda matte and scratched, same with my reserve tail lights. Any way that can be polished?

Pic related

>>14001587
fully sik m8 of course you're welcome here. looks way more fun than my slow pos lol

>>14003474
At least I'm not a hispanic poorfag pretending my pos is a sports car, just use it for what it was made for and do some slides my man

>>14003144
Nah it's the fact that it's my only running car atm and I'd rather not abuse it more than necessary until I can have a dedicated track car. Also I find driving back roads fast is much more fun than drifting. Personal preference.

>>14003144
How is it not a sports car?

>>14004596
He probably thinks all 240's are beat to shit thrash cars when a lot of us actually take care of them for the sake of not treating our cars like garbage. In short, he's 18.

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Any of you yankees want to find me an S110?

>>14003144
They are sports cars. What else would it be?
As rare as it is, people do other things with them besides drifting

>>14003786
Why would you slide in a fucking grocery getter

Don't tell me you don't have money for a GT86 or m3 to do slides?

>>14004596
>>14004648
It's ok Josė your 160 hp shitboxes from the 90s are totally sports cars! You are totally respected within the car community for polishing your turd ;). Why not just use them for something they're good at? [spoiler] getting sideways [/spoiler]
>>14004663
I drive a true sports car, a [spoiler] miata ;) [/spoiler]

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>>14005093
>throws out hp numbers
>drives a car with less hp
>implying s chassis cars arent a good enough platform to do things other than drift
i have nothing against drifting. it looks like fun i just cant afford it and don't want my car to become a drift missile because i care about it way too much

>>14005225
It's not a good platform, you only got one be ause you couldn't afford real sports car like an FD or mk4 supra

>>14005295
i could say the same thing about your miata.

>>14005330
Nope I wanted the best in lightweight sports car design, as soon as I get a day off of work I will be swapping in an ls1 for $500 and have the best of both worlds ;)

>>14005345
Kek

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>>13999527
>painting a red one white
Dutch y u do dis? ;_;

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>>14005295
>real sports car like an FD or mk4 supra
RX7 rotary maintenance wasn't something I wanted to deal with & A80 Supra is more of a heavy grand tourer, not what I wanted.
Plus before I found my car I was looking at Corvettes, Foxbodies, 4th gen fbodies, and even tried getting a Skyline in the US (before R32's were legal & almost got a 4 door 25GT R34 crushed)
also back then /o/ overhyped Miata's like /k/ used to with Mosin Nagants, but wasn't something I wanted to own.
All I wanted was a reliable & fun car that I could do what I wanted with, without worrying too much about; and in the end it turned out to be a better vehicle then my Sierra or Monte Carlo, so it became my daily driver.

>>14005295
I'm taking the bait

>MK4

Why would an S owner want to have a pigfat heavy as fuck car? Looke the Mk4 supra is fucking great, but I doubt people that want a S chassis are the type of people to drive a Supra.

>FD

Yeah okay, now we're talking. A straight up better car. Better chassis, handling, power... but you seem to forget how much a decent FD costs and then we get to the same old washed out talk: the money you spend on a decent FD and maintaining one can be used to make an S13/14 perform as good as the FD. The FD will probably have a slight edge over them cause of some things in certain situations, but hey.

Have fun with your LS Miata, if the chassis survives the first hard pull that is. Also have fun doing any higher speeds with that light, short wheelbase and soon to be noseheavy car.

>>14005560
I guess that ain't your car? Did you get new reems faggot?

Ay /scg/

I'm on the cusp of buying your typical drifted beat on S13

What is the best way to fix the shitty steering rack and bushings? OEM, ugrade to S15, or is there an option 3?

Also the valve cover is hairline cracked, can i jbweld it to not leak and dump looocas into the KA24 until it blows?

>>14003715
Yep, I've polished mine. I used the Mother's plastic polish and it turned out nice.

>>14006074
Get new bushings.

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>>14006039
Not my car. I still got the same shitty wheels. It was an anons 1jz swapped 240. Pic related is mine

>>14006097
rack is pissing, not really that big of a problem, but if i'm going to take the whole thing apart I might as well get a new rack and tie rods desu

>>14006102
There's steering rack seals you can buy to rebuild your current one.
For bushings, I switched back to OEM ones. The polyurethane ones are a tiny bit harder than OEM but they're more slippery.

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>>14006039
Also I'd love a mk4 for muh highway runs. Different cars serve different purposes

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>>14006121
Here where I live there are no long streches of roads because mountain country and city in a valley, so even if I were to own a Supra I'd have nowhere to go and have some top speed fun.

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>>14006173
I have the opposite issue. There's so much highway here and not many fun backroads. Ive always loved the supra anyway.

>>14006115
every time I rebuild something like that I end up regretting not just buying a reman

Corvettes calipers started dribbling less than a month after I rebuilt the fronts


I have a guy locally selling an S14 rack, but Idk whether its cross compatible

Most of the things I have read say you need to do the rack and fresh s14 outers, no reusing your s13 outers otherwise you will never geti ti aligned right

>>14006463
I trust my own rebuilds more than the stuff I find at Autozone. Plus, it's cheaper.
I'm not sure of S14 racks are cross compatible. I did change over to Tein inner and outer rods which are basically S14 ones. Still looks and feels like the day I put them in 7 years ago.

>>13995042
+1 as what Apex said, maintained KA eninges are fucking bullet proof.

my S13 has 285K on the chassis with an engine rebuild that is about 20K miles old. I use it as my daily driver and that engine just purrs all day long.

>>14006581
which is funny because he has a new engine only a year after owning it

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I really want a v8 S14, can I still post her if I do a v8 conversion?

>>14006581
>>14006612
The old engine was at 263k and still ran just ran like shit. I could said fuck it and drove it until it died. Kinda wish I did and saved up more but oh well. 140k miles is still nothing for a ka

>>14006812
are you just on here round the clock in these threads

>>14006695
Yes. One of the good thing about this car is engine bay space for hektik swaps

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>Tfw just converted from auto to 5 speed and have to use auto interior trim
At least my car was only $1300 and pretty clean for an s13

>>14006834
Mobile app :^)

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>>14006882
>>14006834

all day errday

>>14006930

yeah I have a mobile app and I pin these threads on it

>>14006918

can't you just remove that part around the edge and get a shiftboot? Or cut it off if you have to?

>>14006882
Yea I know there's room I was more asking if you guys are nissan motor elitists or just anti v8

>>14007021

I prefer nissan motors but I'm not going to get assmad about what engine someone else puts in his own car

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>>14007021
>240 owners
>giving fucks
We aren't rotards or Porsche purists. If I had the funds and an extra s13 shell I'd make pic related

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>>14006612
Ha, well the majority of KA engines ended up neglected and abused because fuck the KA just swap in a SR in brah.

When I first got mine it had a junkyard pulled KA with no real history and was in a non running state. Got it running and eventually I overheated that motor too many times due to a cracked radiator and it warped the head allowing oil to mix into the coolant. It never had proper oil pressure after that and trashed the internals. I ran it 15,000 miles like that before pulling it out to swap in a fresh KA. I do wonder how long it could of gone for before it spun a bearing.

>>14001535
Vert s13 chassis are the most wet noodle of them all.
But they can still be a fun car, besides convertibles are nice on sunny days.

>>14004583
Back roads are best roads.

>>14006400
>>14006173
>Central Texas
>Toll 130, an 85mph speed limit road, is 30 minutes away for highway hooning. DPS rarely patrols it.
>Great hill country roads are 30 minutes away in the opposite direction.
Tfw you have the best of both worlds.

Although I do miss Colorado mountain passes.

>>14006812
How many miles on your chassis? I just hit 285K, I figure I'm about a year away from seeing 300.

>>14006988
yes, but cant find oem shift boot that I want for a decent price, but the rag I shoved in there will do for now

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>>14007285
I have a z32 boot on mine, it doesn't fit perfect but it's better than nothing.

>pic related

You sort of get the idea.

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I dont have an S chassis but I'll post the pictures I've taken of my friend's and say a little bit about it

1995 S14 zenkie. Only mods are shift knob, Wheels, wing, and tail lights.

Its an SE non sunroof, LSD, with around 220k+ miles on stock everything.

He let me drive it once. was a fun little drive. peppier than i expected.

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>>14007376
1989 S13. My friend has been building this car for 6 years. He got it as a shell when he was younger.

Car chassis is a total slut. and has had many diffrent engines in it. Multiple KA's and SR's. and even a few VQ's and LS's until it came into his hands.

At the moment its an redtop SR20 with stage 1 tomei cams running 12psi of boost.

when it comes to suspension, i have no idea. all i know is that its a lot of stuff.

When it comes to cosmetics, also a ton. I'll post a few more pictures of his.

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>>14007415

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>>14007425
He also picked up these S15 seats.

Person who sold them only had them online for 15 minutes before my buddy called him and bought them that next morning.

What is a Silvia

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>>14007432
and the SR. His brother owns a shop and they swapped the car in under 20hrs.

I do have a couple more pictures of his car if anyone wants to see more. but on to the next one.

>>14007425
Worst taillights possible

>>13975377

I'm this guy

>>13977795
Thanks for the comment, the plan with a 240 is to swap in an RB motor anyhow, so I was going to be primarily looking for shells like you say.

I have decided now that I'm going to start saving and try to make a 240 happen. I'd really hope that next year I can pick up the car and a motor and hopefully have it in by the end of the year. This is going to relieve me of trying to modify my BRZ and finally give me the project I've always wanted.

What's everyone's thoughts on S13 vs S14, and RB20 vs RB25? Should I shoot for rebuilding the motor before I put it in the car? These are some of the early things I want to start thinking about in this concept phase.

>>14007124
265k now.

>>14007124
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SUNNY DAYS

PERFORMANCE NOW

>>14007425
>>14007432
>>14007446
>dat orange
I love it

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>>14007446
I belive this one is also an 89.

RB20 thats been fully built running 30psi of boost

This is my friend's daily missile

Rattle can paint, half stripped interior, beat to hell. he slides every single day

>>14007450
that photo is faily old. He has 180sx type x tails i believe? The rounded ones. I'll look for a picture

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>>14007485
Has a straight pipe from the header back to just a muffler. Not that loud until he gets on it.

I haven't ridden in it yet, but this thing is fucking mental.

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>>14007494
His interior as of now

He also building a track / drift car. Right now its just a shell in his yard.

He recently picked up a 2JZ out of a SC300. He plans to turbo the 2JZ (already has turbo itself) and also RHD swap the drift car.

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>>14007450
>>14007485
More recent photo of the rear.

Im not quite sure what tails these are. 180sx type x? or just Silvia?

>>14007517
yes bruh 180sx type x. silvia would be rectangular

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>>14007517
Next car

I barely know anything about this car but i'll say what i know

Infinity or lexus V8, Welded Diff, and Silva front.

I belive this car is his daily, not too sure.

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>>14007541
Most of the police officers around where he lives don't like him

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yay

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>>14007508
>>14007494
>>14007485
Him leaving a car meet before he spray painted it

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>>14007558
thats about all of the 240 guys i know that aren't currently building it. I have pictures of friend's past 240s but these are the ones driven often. Will post more if yall want.

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>>14007555
But I destroyed this one.
>Sorry Carol.

>>14007591
THE CONVERTIBLES SUCK THOUGH

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>>14007591
pls yes

>>14007415
This is absolutely beautiful. Exactly my vision for an s13. Simple yet looks like it has something going on because it's so clean.

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>>14007021
The best V8 is a Nissan, so it really doesn't matter.

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>>14007602
what vert?

>>14007622
Will do. will post more Schas with brief description

This is the organge S13 i posted above. When it looked like this it was VQ swapped.

Heres a video of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Uyp3GJjts

>>14007665

just agree with me
a convertible s13
might as well be a FWD sebring

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>>14007665
The guy who owns the orange car, this is his brother.

His brother is known as the local 240 master.

This is one of his older 240s

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>>14007671
My friend's old vert.

To me, they're Eh.

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>>14007687
Another one of his old 240s

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>>14007671
You'll like this.

Fucking ants.

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>>14007704
no clue about anything done to this one.

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>>14007728
Last one of his daily's. next few will be cars that were in his shop.

>>14007699
>>14007717

they're trash, right?

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>>14007734

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>>14007756

>>14007748
the red one was a POS becuase of the owners. and the black one.. Well, i think you already know.

is it bad to make a sileighty

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>>14007767

>>14007767
so you admit the convertibles are garbage
just admit it man
please

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>>14007774
quads please?

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>>14007783


>>14007776
I wouldn't say ever vert is garbage. Just that those two i posted were.

I've always had a slight soft spot for them, but they look ugly with the top up.

>>14007485
yea, 180sx tails

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>>14007800
Last, But not least.

Never saw this car in person. But damn would i love to.

Guy specializes in mostly wiring but has done everything.

He's currently SR20 swapping a Sentra and converting it to AWD.

>>14007776
im with u verts are trash

almost as bad as the kids who buy autos that aren't verts and wont shut up about how they're gonna swap trannys.

>>14007816
theres a few here where me and ILikeCars are

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>>14007800
the Orange s13 before paint, me n him go way back

>>14007824
thats fine? that doesn't change the fact that they're literally the worst s-chassis lol

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>>14007832
The day he got it back from getting it painted

>>14007836
literally how

>>14007844
>wettest noodle of the wet noodles
>automatic only
>didn't ever have a hardtop option
>hispanics will cut your shit open

do you want me to keep going or can you use logic for yourself?

>>14007836
thats what Im sayin

>>14007863
ah for sure. shop looks cool bro!

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>>14007852
the red s13 vert before red paint and another of Orange s13 also my stock RX7 creepin

>>14007852
only way to really fix it is with money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItwQmkj2XFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMRogAI49Z8

>>14007877
>>14007879
idk if you guys have ever seen the Team Orange vert that Kumakubo drove for a few exhibition events but the thing had a fucking stripper pole it in lmao

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>>14007877
also Rocketbunny rb30? powered S13 from SC

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>>14007890
im confused and worried.

>>14007852

>automatic only
BUT
ITS BEEN
M/T SWAPPED ALREADY
YOU FUCKING DICKHEAD

>>14007913
That rustled my jimmies in all the right ways

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>>14007898
Nope

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>>14007932
better picture of the car

>>14007935
I like this goy^

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>>14007776
Dude its not that serious. I'd totally build a hektik vert for lulz. A friend of mine had an rb swapped one but sold it and is trying to get an illegal as fuck r33

>>14007954
i own a vert
the owner m/t swapped it
it was the only 240sx for a reasonable price
i just want some big defender to come along and make me stop feeling buyers remorse and inferior to the topped 240sx when it comes to performance

>>14007932
26/30? They can be a pain in the ass to build right. Used to have a mate with an r31 and we built up a 25/30 for it, made 370kw with forged internals until it went bang a year later.

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>>14007932
neat pic

>>14007918
oh sick man, i'm sure that sawzall cut hole for the clutch pedal is nice and your shift boot lines up super mint. have fun replacing all of the automatic interior trim, faggot.

>>14007963
kill urself
>>14008001
who gives a shit about this stuff though

>>14007999
trips witnessed

>>14008052
me because my car had a manual transmission from the factory and it isn't a hackjob a 17 year old filipino did in his driveway because he was too impatient/couldnt afford a 5speed lol

>>14008063
>>14008052

>Two guys who both own variants of the same poorly-built rattlebox piece of shit rusty datsun arguing about factory originality

toppest kek

signed,
/hg/

>>14008079
leave it
>>14007963
I appreciate a good underdog story and would rather watch you then >>14008063

>>14007783
>>>14007777

wouldnt a good roll cage negate the convertible's downfall anyway

>>14007767
Those thrust style wheels on the silver car actually look fucking great. It's like a whole new world of options for me.

>>14008137
Yes. It stiffen the chassis quite a bit.

>>14007485
>missile

M8 that car looks straight as fuck

>>14007770
No. Sileighty even handles better because less weight.

>>13971721
Holy shit didn't think a two-tone hatch would look that good. Definitely going to consider this for my own hatch

>>14007354
Damn I wish I had the money for some bride seats. Guess I'll get some cheap recaros

>>14007415
The fuck can he open his rear corner window ?

>>14009789
>convertible s chassis
>ever

>>14008001
Hey faggot mine is swapped and it all lines up perfect if you don't suck at working on cars. And the interior pieces aren't hard to find

How hard is it to ungut an interior and whats the best Pick A Part seat swap?

After I get the cracked windshield and steering rack patched up, I want to make mine comfy.

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>>14009683
Missle / daily for him.

>>14010507
S14 seats are Very comfy in an s13 and for easily. You can pick them up for cheap too

>>14009779
They're are only replicas unfortunately, they sit on genuine bride rails though, until I can save up for some velo's. Still hold me in nice and tight and they seem to be made pretty well for replicas, no flex in them or anything but still don't really trust them in a crash. Although desu if you crash an s13 you're probably pretty fucked anyway.

>>13995042
Yo guys im this guy here looking at a 91. Does the KA24DE have a timing chain or belt?

>>14013712
beefy chain

still interference tho, so if it has >200 might want to consider a new chain

>replace front end with Silvia one
>friends like my car less
>not as many girls want to ride in it
>they miss the pop ups

L-lonely drivers right?

>>13977795
>Cheap, good handling, and an underpowered engine.
No, the 240 was not under powered for its time. It made more power than the v6 mustang and as much as the v6 camaro and costed much less than either. The toyobaru makes 100 less than a v6 mustang and costs MORE.

>>13980463
>The seats are too small to actually use. It's really just a 2 seater with some space in the back to throw shit.

Not true, I've sat in the back of many s13s and fit four people and cargo in mine many times. If you think the back seat isnt useable then you need to go on a fucking diet or stop being andre the giant.


>>13979661
Older celica, s12, ae86 (lol good luck finding one), z31, s30, 944/924, e30 is a very good choice. And maybe a cressida if you're okay with four doors.

>>14014194
But it's a vert so I'm inherently inferior
>way heavier floppy chassis
And I still need to roll cage it, a big powerful strong one to fix the chassis
How so I make s13 less fat

>>14008079
this is coming from the retards who sperg out if you dont refer to a USDM eg hatch by its proper vin plate chassis code and trim level, lmfao.

your ex has hx wheels brah, it isnt right.

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>>13998020
Take it from me the vert is a can of worms that you dont really want to get into.

Essentially, both quater windows will break if theyre not broken already (which they are since they're both rolled up in that pic with the door windows down), ASC added a lot of metal to the car and DIDNT paint over any of it so you literally cant buy a rust free vert. You can fix most of it but they added some metal to the rockers, and in between the outside unibody and the inner bracing that is impossible to get to without cutting out welds and re welding in entire panels. Also the trunk struts will be bad, and the rear window will need to be replaced if it hasnt been already.


That said I still love crusing around with the top down, especially in the snow so I can look like a huge faggot

>>14014255
But it is rust free
I don't live in the salt belt
And I've never seen a vert with quarter windows down , I thought that was how it's supposed to be
I don't really care if they don't go down anyway

When my other options are literally discarded drift missile and overpriced shit, I'll take whatever S13 I can get and improve it myself
I'll improve the car like I improve myself
Because this will be my car and I am going to work hard no matter what

>>14014255
I should also point out about vert rust: See that gnarly rust hole in my rocker? Thats rusted the outside in, basically, my driver side rocker is gone. There is an even bigger hole in the rocker in the wheel well and you can see into it and see that the whole thing is just gone. There supposed to be a bunch of bracing and stuff in there and its all gone and rotted out. And there is literally no other rust on this car, its perfect everywhere except where ASC added metal and even with that in mind the my chassis probably only has another two years or so before the rust spreads too far.

But thats okay because shells are cheap

Water rusts steel too, not just salt. I'm not joking when I say there is a load of exposed metal on that car. And no matter what you think exposed steel that has been around for 20 years is going to be rusty, probably not as bad a salt belt car but a vert is 100% guaranteed to have a shorter lifespan than a normal s13.

I'm not saying that you shouldnt buy it, but I would only do it if you can get it for less than 2k, because the car literally can never be as good as a normal schassis or a miata.
If you just really want a schassis, you should wait till you get a car you really want, instead of jumping on the first decent s13 that pops up in your area.

>>14014319
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>>14014282

>>14014319
Why can it never be as good

>>14014328
Well, mostly because of all of the extra metal ASC put on the car, a vert is a good 400lbs heavier than a coupe. And sure you can pull 200lbs of shit off if you go hard core, but even then theres still another 200lbs of bracing you'd have to cut off of the unibody. And if you did that the car would be even more flexible and less rigid than it was before. And it already is the floppyest schassis you can get.

Also if you ever roll the car you will die, and if you put a roll bar in then you lose the rear seats and should have bought a miata in the first place.

Can a vert be a good schassis? Yeah no doubt, I love mine despite its flaws, I bought it knowing what I was getting into. Could it be as good as a coupe or a hatch? Maybe if I went complete race car with it, gutted out all the extra metal and did a full cage then yeah. But at that point it's not really a vert anymore.

>>14014388
You can't fit a role cage and rear seats ?

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>>14014397
Well you could, but it would never pass inspection on a track/ meet NASA, SECCA or formula D standards.

You could still fit a couple people back there, but if you were to crash they would probably die colliding with the bars. I take that risk more often than I like in my friends coupe, but its something to think about.

>>14014440
Man I just wish shit would work out for me
This was a really good s chassis too

I quit
I finally got hyped for a cheap rwd car but turns out its bad idea

>>14014658
hey dude dont be like that, the vert isn't a bad car, its just objectively inferior to a coupe or hatch. if you like the car you should at least try to low ball the guy for it. And fixing all of the gay vert problems will put some hair on your chest.

And I mean shit, don't let someones own personal experince outweigh yours, theres nothing stopping you from looking at the car and asking the guy to let you drive it. You don't have to do what people on the internet tell you to do.