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If I wanted to drop a V8 into a small, light car to make a poor

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If I wanted to drop a V8 into a small, light car to make a poor man's Shelby Cobra or Daytona, what car should I use?
I'd be quite set on using an aluminum SBC like an LS1, all memes aside. So far the best body I can think of is a 240Z. No convertibles please so no Miatas. A Triumph GT6 would also be cool but uncommon.

Btw this is all hypothetical. I'm not planning to actually do an engine swap anytime soon.
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Triumph, but it would probably be better to just buy a replica of a Shelby
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>>13935599
>putting LS1 into a 240Z
>making a fair lady a fat whore
You could probably find an RX-7, or LS swap a rolling E30 or something. If you can weld you could make a V8 beetle
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>>13935607
Shelby replicas are very expensive.
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>>13935698
An LS1 240Z wouldn't really weigh more than a stock one. It has a heavy iron inline 6 and the LS1 is compact and aluminum.
A V8 Beetle would be really cool but also a hell of a lot of work.
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you can build a factory five daytona coupe for like 25k
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>>13935599
Swap an LS4 into a Fiero
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>>13935698
Besides weighing less than a turbo setup, it'll have more power , be more efficient, be tons more reliable, and be fun anywhere
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>>13935712
nigga what

the LS1 is mostly cast iron as well, only some bits of the block and the cylinder heads are aluminium
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>>13935750
The LS1, LS2, LS3, LS4, LS6, LS7, and LS9 all have aluminum blocks.
You're thinking of the truck engine blocks which were available with a cast iron block.
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>LS
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>>13935699
Type-65 is $16K + a mustang
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>>13935766
My back hurts everytime i look at that image
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>>13936039
And some substantial additional funds to make your Turdstang with a Shelby body handle better than a Turdstang and make more than 200 hp, otherwise it's just a Turdstang with a Shelby body.
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Miata hardtop.
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>>13935766
This image always ticks me off. Given the size of the rotary in question, and the 4 cylinder SOHC in question, why not show a GM 2200 I4, you know. Of ACTUAL similar size.

If they wanted to make a statement about weight, why not use a 4-rotor engine or a 1UZ-FE to compare?
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As a rule of thumb anything rwd with a four cylinder engine will take one of these.
Buick really got suckered out of the Rover V8.
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>>13935599
There are fastback conversions for NA and NB Miatas.
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>>13935599
honda crx with fr conversion.
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>>13936169
who has video of such a beast?
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>V8
>year vingt*100 plus quinze

a turbocharged I4 would be superior in every aspect
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>>13936145
That's another thing I can't stand
>LOOK AT THIS BRITISH ROVER V8 ENGINE!
>IT'S COMPLETELY BRITISH
>U MAD AMERIKEKS?
>But it's an American Buick engine
>NUH-UH! ROVER BOUGHT IT SO IT'S BRITISH
It's a fucking American engine with "Buick" crossed out and "Rover" written in its place in crayon.
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>>13936140
Probably because it's a bait image. If anything, it's satirical on the river idea that your average 2 rotor or online 4 could make as much power as a well equipped v8
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>>13936140
The engine on the right makes 300 HP (and it's a 3 cylinder, not a 4 cylinder), and the engine on the left is capable of 300 HP NA or upwards of 700 horsepower with an extra 50 pounds of turbo and plumbing. Let me know when GM makes an aluminum block I4 that can keep up.
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>>13936169
hard to call it the same car at that point
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>>13936199
>215 ci
I doubt any American wants such a thing
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>>13936199
Only British engines worth a damn are the TVR Speed Six engine and the Jaguar V12.
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>>13936210
>Let me know when GM makes an aluminum block I4 that can keep up.
It's called the Ecotec, and you can get them with up to 3.0L of displacement.
http://www.fmsrperformance.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=345
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>>13935599
I got you senpai
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>>13936199
Strictly speaking nobody that side of the pond wanted it and the folk the other side ran with it and made it a really useful thing.
They're mostly not Buick and go to about 4.5 to 5 litres with or without turbo/superchargers when you find them.
It's a shame that BL died and so did the source.
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>>13936226
>speed six a shit
it is an inherently flawed engine
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>>13936226
You'll find this in all the Britstangs.
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>>13936226
dont forget about an Austin A series with a few simple mods
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>>13936275
Have we had that fire pump yet, or the one made by Ford ?
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>>13936283
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>>13936226
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosworth_DFV#Background
shits getting murky yo
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>>13936234
>Undriveable amount of power
>Still weighs triple what either of the engines do in the original image
If we're just talking power to weight, why not bring up a nitro-powered Hemi?
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>>13935599
MGB GT V8? I've been wanting to do one of these with an SR20DET or something similar for a while.
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>>13935599
1st gen RX-7. Fix the Watt's link, throw in a Ford 8.8 with a LSD, throw in an LS+T56 using a Granny's kit.

>>13936185
But what if you turbo the V8? It'd get you even more power.
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>>13936304
Because nobody actually wants to make a million billion horsepower except lolcantturn amerifats. Once you reach a reasonable amount of horsepower around 300-500, lighter is all that matters. More efficient is also good, because fuel weighs weight.
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>>13936283
>fire pump
this thing ? (probably not)
it also powered pt boats and locomotives as it was deemed to bulky and complex for aircraft
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>>13936314
Godiva :)
The water pump.
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>>13936329
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>>13936334
>delicious reverse flow
for some reason I have the superstition that its the best design for cold starts
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>>13936290
I know for a fact that you can carry an L61 2.2L Ecotec by yourself. Had to do it at one point. Was working on one on an engine stand. Bolts holding it to the stand snapped and only my relfexhes kept the engine from hitting the ground. Had to hold the engine up myself while they re-bolted it to the stand with stronger bolts. An L61 Ecotec (which all other Ecotecs are based on), with all accessories and fluid is 307 lbs, 330 lbs if you add a turbo and turbo manifold
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>>13936524
Dry, you can move most of the British engines named about by hand.
Pic: will fit in a car/tank/aircraft but it really, really, isn't a one man lift.
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>>13936539
That 307 lbs also includes the transmission. Remove the transmission and its 209 lbs. Remove the fluids and it's 201 lbs.

So it's a really light 4 banger. The Ecotecs really are among the best 4 bangers out there.
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>>13936221
And that's exactly why it ended up as a Rover engine.
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>>13936524
>with all accessories and fluid is 307 lbs, 330 lbs if you add a turbo and turbo manifold
Both engines in >>13935766 weigh 100 pounds and change. The Ecotec weighs 2-3 times more and the additional power doesn't matter unless you put it in a pigfat cantturn.
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>>13936604
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>>13936604
See:
>>13936559
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>>13936210
the DIG-T R will never be used in a production car you might as well post a motorcycle engine
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>actively ruining cars with shitty engines


you are cancer
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>>13935599
Caterham, or other kit car. You literally build from the ground up with whatever the fuck engine you want.

Common is a 2L I4 from an upmarket commuter car. But if you stick a big V8 in there, you'll probably go like a greased pig.
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>>13936963
Viper V10-powered Lotus Seven clone when?
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>>13936106
It's already going to be lighter, and it wI'll still be fairly cheap to bring it to real shelby levels.
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>>13936210
And the LS makes a bit more than 300 stock and can be pushed to 4 digits, your point?
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>>13936948
>making something akin to an AC Cobra is ruining/cancer
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>>13935599
Turbo'd subaru engine into a VW bug.
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>>13936106
you are fucking retarded
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>>13936312
>fuel is weight
>advocating for an engine that uses less fuel

So the V8 would be better since it is actively reducing weight at a more rapid pace.
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>>13939748
"No."
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How about a Sunbeam Tiger, pretty much is the poor man's Cobra already. You could start with an Alpine and use Tiger parts to get the SBF in there for really cheap.
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For a complete monster of a car you could use an all aluminum Dart 427 Windsor that would drop right in with some different headers and some accessory relocation
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>>13935750
LS engines are aluminum you double nigger
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>>13936312
Literally no car racing will fuel ever weigh enough to make a difference
it matters in F1 because of how light the cars are and how skilled the drivers are, but Nowhere in car racing will it make a difference
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>>13936210
NA vs NA, LS wins.
Turbo vs Turbo, LS dominates.
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>>13936685
almost looks real....almost.
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>>13943878
Makes me wish this was real
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>>13943188

He's right, that was pretty retarded.
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>>13943205

I approve of 351s bored/stroked to 427 for Cobra replicas.
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>>13943638
LeMans is around 3200 miles long. I'll let you do the math on how many fuel stops you'll make with 35 MPG vs 12 MPG. Unless you're suggesting that LeMans cars should have 200 gallon fuel tanks because fuel doesn't way anything?

>>13943166
Well memed, sir.

>>13937126
>>13943667
Making more than 400 horsepower is just for dickwaving competition, not for driving. The goal is to make the lightest 300-400 horsepower engine you can. There are much lighter engines than a small block V8 that can make that much power.

I should also probably remind you that the most dominant car in WTAC history only made 450 horsepower, in a field of 900+ horsepower cars.
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