How would a 1987-93 foxbody do on a Tōge? Are there ways to

There are corners. It'll do shit.
Buy a different car.

just dont.
you would be better off with even a boxter.

improve its handling?
tubular k member
blah blah
just read this one
https://www.wheelwell.com/profile/54a87c441b035a475a2f2d8c/vehicles/54b463058e739ea2679c7484/parts/#Parts

Get an SN95 and swap in the Cobra IRS. You now have a Mustang that can turn and will BTFO most weebmobiles in a straight line.

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>>13932070
>Are there ways to improve its handling?
The Fox-body Mustang can't corner to save its life.

You're talking quite a chunk of change to get it to corner, 6-7 grand for a good setup isn't unheard of.

If you want an American muscle car for the togue, the best option is GM's F-body, not Ford's Fox Mustang.
The F-body has ALWAYS outhandled the Mustang. The Mustang is lighter and faster in a straight line, but an F-body will outperform it around a track. The only weak point in the F-body is the 10 bolt rear diff. And on average, that's 2-3k to fix (switching to a 12 bolt rear)

>>13932107
Its not that simple. You've never tried to improve a cars handling. An IRS doesn't guarantee good handling, though I will concede the SN95 is the best variant of the Fox-body.

>>13932128
Ive had a hard time finding a f body camero with a manual trans thats the only problem

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>>13932147
That's why the Firebird exists. lol
Most of them were automatic, and the only V8 manuals were 305 V8's. Manual swaps are actually really common and cheap.

>>13932147
>listening to this mustang cant handle meme
they dont handle the best but the camaro is no better.

>be me 16
>gramps died
>badass from kentucky
>owned a 89' white-ish foxbody mustang
>red interior needed work
>left car to me and my dad
>see this thread

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>>13932163
>but the camaro is no better.
The Camaro has repeatedly outhandled the Mustang over the years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI-lukE09gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0tOZco-jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1WF3fx9ys

>>13932162
This. Up until the 1993-2002 models, the Firebird repeatedly outsold the Camaro, and should be easier to find.

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>>13932201
The camaro has *marginally* outhandled the mustang over the years. Let's be real, and this is coming from a foxbody owner.. both handle like shit stock. Understandably. Nobody buys a mustang or camaro with great handling in mind. It's not what they do. That's not to say they can't be made to handle very well.

also here's the source on OP's pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nuw8xOnsfg

>dat sound
pic fucking related.

>>13932822
those poor tires

>american cars
>handling

pick 1

>>13932128
>You're talking quite a chunk of change to get it to corner, 6-7 grand for a good setup isn't unheard of.
How is it any different than other cars?

>>13932070
the isosceles rear suspension is probably the weakest link
swap over to a torque arm or 3 link w/ watts link

and the important part: good tires

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>>13932874
>daily reminder that all of the $1M+ yuro and wapanese cars that you praise get repeatedly BTFO by a $120k american car

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>>13932937
>its actually italian

>>13932881
Because a setup to have a godly handling F-body is generally around 3-4k. They really are a better platform. Of course, you can still spend 7-8k if you want, but it's not needed. The Mustang needs so much more work to handle decently that it's not even funny.

>>13932943
It's not though

>>13932070
do you have the original video of that pic?

i've seen it but can't find it again

>>13932957
Fbody is a wet noodle compared to the already wet Fox.

>>13932967
see
>>13932822

>>13932959
>italian engine
>owned by italians

>>13932943
And jaguars are Indian then.

>>13932993
then audi is austrian :^)

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>>13932943
I love how this is the only response you europoors can give whenever the ACR is brought up. It causes you so much butthurt that an American car is the better performer but there's nothing you can do about it because it shits all over absolutely everything.

There's nothing else you can say so you're reduced to denying the very fact that the car itself EXISTS as an American car. I love it.

>>13932993
>Dodge's fat V10 is Italian now

>>13932993
What Italian engine? Does the viper not use its V10 anymore?

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>>13933000
>>13933006
>>13933008
its italian tho

not trolling

>>13933009
>>13933010
>made by lamborghini
>somehow not italian

>>13932937
No it doesn't

>>13933008
nurburgring time? That's what I thought

>>13933025
LOL the denial

>>13932987
damn, that's not the vid I thought it was

I remember seeing that car as part of a free track day thing. people were doing the hillclimb in farm equipment

>>13933010
>>13933009
He's inferring about Chrysler having owned stock in Lamborghini at the time and having them take their truck V10 and have it make HP as well as TQ.

>hey you dirty WOPs, you know we own your shit so do this work for us
>yes sir, 'murrica
>now edgy teenagers say the engine is italian

>>13933024
Only the block is manufactured by Lamborghini, as Chrysler owned it during 1st gen viper development

>>13933041
its just butthurt germans, ignore them

snek is king

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>>13932943
literally always work :^)

>>13933039
That is part at that hillclimb event, this is just the Mustang clips.

>>13933033
> it's faster than everything!
Not faster than a radical or pagani m8
But compare it to bmw sedans etc real great achievement lol

>>13933050
italians and germans make the best cars tho

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>>13933009
>>13933010
He's referring to the first few prototype engines for the 1st gen Viper which were built in a lamborghini factory when Chrysler (dodge) owned lamborghini in the early-90's.

See, the viper shits on all the europoors' beloved cars so hard that this is the only thing they can say about it. Don't mind them. Maybe they'll get over their anti-american inferiority complex someday...

>>13933066
beat out your precious porsche klaus :^)

>>13933066
>compare it to bmw sedans etc
How about a 918? That's a million dollar hypercar and that got BTFO too.

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>>13933074
the first prototypes had a v8 tho, and that v8 was not made by lamborghini

>>13933074
>anti american

i'm yuro and the snek is my favourite car, its just butthurt germans

>>13933066
>it's not faster than an open air track car that doesn't meet ncap crash or emissions standards or a car that costs $3M

That's all you got?

You don't....

And the guys saying an Fbody handles good.

Fucking lol, brainwashed white trash.

~1975-~2005 american cars are pure shit.

>>13933078
Got btfo? Lol no m8
Let me know when viper can come anywhere near it's ring time

>>13933122
It's not faster than a civic type r either until it comes out with a ring time :^))

>>13933190
LOL not even american and laughing at how buttfucking flustered you are. Believing for even a second that the ACR is slower than the Civic Type R just because it didn't post a time on a particular track. Mcfuckingkillyourself. Take an elementary course in logic, plz.

>>13933190
It will when they remove the speed limit on the burgerking.

It already set records on multiple tracks and beat both the 918 and P1.

>>13933161
>implying they're not shit even further back than that

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>>13933190
>ring time
Well seeing as how it's impossible for the ACR to set a nurburgring record with the regulations and speed limits still in place until next year, i guess we'll just have to settle for literally EVERY other track the ACR has run on. Let's see...

Willow Springs
>Viper- 1:21.24
>918- 1:23.54

Virginia International
>Viper- 2:40.02
>C7 Z06- 2:41.32
>918- 2:43.10
>GTR Nismo- 2:49.40 (topfuckingkek btw, the "godly" nismo gtr is almost 10 seconds slower)

Road Atlanta
>Viper- 1:26.54
>C7 Z06- 1:30.18

And last but not least...
Laguna Seca
>Viper- 1:28.65
>918- 1:29.89
>Mclaren P1- 1:30.71

And those aren't even all the track records, just the ones with decent competitive lap times.

Now you're turn...
>hurrr durr nope no no nope no spergburg time doesnt count

>>13933309
> muh speed limits
Lol. Didn't stop bmw or alfa romeo. Super limit us excuse for butthurt americunt manufacturers like gm

> huur we crash or explode engine every time we try but that's not the reason we don't have a time, it's bevause of speed limits which no one follows

> all American tracks with third party times
Could you get any more irrelevant roflmao srsly

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>>13933464
>Mentions GM
>talking about a Dodge

you're a special kind of retarded

>>13933309
>Well seeing as how it's impossible for the ACR to set a nurburgring record with the regulations and speed limits still in place until next yea

nice made up bullshit

pagani just lapped the ring in 6:30
http://gtspirit.com/2015/11/13/pagani-zonda-revolucion-sets-630-nurburgring-nordschleife-record/

BMW and alfa romeo also lapped it after the "ban"

>>13933846
> damage control
I was making a point of americunt manufacturers making up bullshit to cover their asses
Muh speed limits literally doesn't mean anything. Find another excuse butthurt gayboy poofta dick licker fudge packing ball sucking homo fag
kiss my Gooch

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>>13933464
>alfa romeo claims 7:39 lap
>time is independently confirmed by alfa romeo themselves
>no video
>no proof
But hey it's not an American car so you believe it, right? Get real dude. They're pulling the same shit Mclaren did with the P1, only they somehow got a few people to recognize it.

> all American tracks with third party times
>all official track records
>all track records (13 of them for now) observed, confirmed and certified by the SCCA
Doesn't get much more official than that man but whatever you say...


There's so much anti-american spaghetti you're spewing out. I love it. I mean why are you even talking about GM? I didn't say anything about GM. I don't care about GM. The Z06 is a piece of shit.

Just face it, the ACR is GOAT and none of your beloved overpriced, overengineered yuro cars can do shit about it. That's the truth. and i can't wait for them to run the ring in a few months when everything is settled down and ready to go. It's gonna be good.

>>13933855
same as above

>>13933939
>>13933939
> WAAH ITS FAKE!
Top fucking kek americunts are hilarious

Manufacturer times> Third party times, especially when those third parties are American reviewers receiving donations from American manufacturers (see I can make up stuff too :^)

keep thinking that pigfat dodge will ever come close to a radical or pagani though kek
> inb4 poorfag excuses about price or whatever
Move to a CouNtry where minimum wage isn't a single figure and your government isn't nazi tier LOL

>>13932070
>How would a 1987-93 foxbody do on a Tōge?
It'd manage just fine.
>Are there ways to improve its handling?
Yes, but you'd be wasting your time asking any of us fools. Go seek out those who actually know something...

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>>13933939
kek mad

>>13933939
>Just face it, the ACR is GOAT and none of your beloved overpriced, overengineered yuro cars can do shit about it.
but the ACR is european

>>13932070
>>13932070
>>13932070
>>13932070

OK, first things first: These cars are FLEXIBLE AS FUCK stock. You will want full length, weld-in subframe connectors.

Next up, fixing the rear geometry. Ford kind of forgot that you need to triangulate linkages or whatever to eliminate side to side sway, so the axle can kind of shift left to right. No bueno. The cheap fix is a panhard bar, couple hundred bucks. The more expensive fix is a watts link or IRS. Both will need new exhaust routing, or just dumping it ahead of the rear end.

The stock brakes are garbage. Absolute garbage. I'm not 100% on the master cylinder or whatever, but different pads and rotors alone would probably make a difference up front, although I think your best/cheapest option would be a full five-lug conversion off of an SN95, and get vented rotors instead of the OEM solid ones.

It's not a cheap process, but if you really like yours, it would be worth it.

>>13933980
The butt hurt is real

>>13934280
> can only dismiss the things that make his butt hurt with claims of illegitimacy and physiological projection
Top kek

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>>13933980
I like how your logic takes a complete 180° turn through the course of less than 3 posts.

Less than THREE posts and you're already backpedaling... That must be a new record... the only european record i've seen recently.