Wanting to get an older 3series (03-07) as a daily driver I understand

Any help would be appreciated

>>13901963
idk, what are you looking to get out of it?

>>13902023
A mix of a point a to b car with a little fun thrown in

>>13902029
Friend bought a 2012 335i that had to replace a fuel pump and now the injectors just went, costing him $1800. He's only driven 13k miles on it. Don't get a 335i.

>>13901963
>I understand that the matinence is a bit more on BMW's
Not really.
>but I can do some work on the car myself
Are you doing it now?
There's your answer.
>what I am asking is it really worth my money and time getting one?
No one can answer that for you you stupid fucking fag.

>>13902063
What I am asking is one thing going to break right after another if so I'd rather not waste my time working on my car frothed l every other day

>>13902054
No it'd be an older one like I said in my original post I understand water pumps were huge issues because of the plastic but I know you can order metal ones

>>13902071
> is one thing going to break right after another

Nope. Honesty the only thing you need to look out for is the cooling system. Depending on the mileage, check to see if the water pump has been replaced and check the hoses on everything.

>>13901963
Don't buy one you twat. Do you know how much money you'll have to spend?

>>13902078
>bought an E36
>only ever had to change spark plugs, oil, brake fluid and brake pads in the 2 years i've owned it

>>13902076
I'm actually not familiar with BMWs is anything in the cooling system going to force me in to a shop

>>13902071
The water pumps are not an issue.
Poor maintenance is the issue.
Use BMW coolant and replace it properly and most waterpumps will last the life of the vehicle.

>>13902084
What's the milage?

>>13902090
So if I'm grabbing one off Craigslist what are the big things to look for assuming the milage would be around 80k to 120k

>>13902075
I forgot to mention my point. If it's even older, prepare your wallet.

>>13902093
Just over 160,000 miles. The former owner however had replaced the water pump and some hoses but that's about it.

>>13902103
So is >>13902100
A meme?

>>13902107
I wish it was a meme, otherwise I would love to own an E9x bmw.

>>13902107
Yes. An older one can be trouble but only if the former owner has used common sense and maintained it.

So when you go looking for one, check if the water pump has been replaced. Even if it hasn't quite a few sites recommend replacing it with a metal impeller anyway as a preventative.

>>13902116
>hasn't used common sense and maintained it

Well that was a pretty bad spelling mistake. So yeah, a good former owner is the key. Also if the car doesn't have log books or repair receipts, just walk away. There's no telling what's been done and what hasn't.

>>13902116
So how much in total would it cost me to buy all the pre-emptive parts

>>13902125
So receipts and and a possible car fax is key

>>13902131
It really depends on which 3 series you buy. Going by my own experience with an E36, prices aren't too bad for parts since there's a huge aftermarket. Here's a water pump for example.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-E36/c-105-bmw-water-pumps.aspx

So I guess $150 for a pump is what you'd be looking at.

>>13902139
Absolutely. Mine came with all the original books which included its inspections dating back to purchase in 1994 and had every receipt from every year since. If you can find that, you can feel pretty safe in how well maintained the car is.

>>13902143
Would it be handle the stress of daily driving even in its high milage state

>>13902169
Oh hell yeah, my E36 is my DD. It's a car and it's made to be driven, especially the 3 series.

>>13902075
e46 BMWs are high maintenance. Actually all BMWs are it's just some are more so than others.

If you want an e46 you'll have to watch out for all the components in the cooling system. I've seen water pump failures, coolant reservoirs, radiators, the plastic couplers in the radiator hoses and if you overheat the motor to badly the headgasket and threads in the block can get damaged.

They're prone to oil leaks too. The oil filter housing leaks, valve cover gaskets leak and the oil pans leak.

Then there are also known power steering leaks.

If you can stay on top of the cooling system maintenance they can go for a long time. You can ignore oil leaks if you're ever tight on money keep fluids topped off.

>>13902143
Would I have to buy a new thermostat along with it?

>>13902197
If you're going the preventative route, I personally would. IIRC thermostats are only about $30 though so it's not too bad.

But again, chances are the former owner has done a full cooling system overhaul. So just ask and see some receipts and you'll save abit of cash.

>>13902196
No Ms just the base model is rather not have my insurance completely fuck me

>>13902190
Just brought my hopes up

>>13902196
Looking for a 330i preferably no point in getting in over my head on a car in not familiar with

>>13902217
If you want to go the absolute safe route, buy a later E36 from between 95-98. They're practically unbreakable if you maintain it.

I've not owned an E46 or newer so I can't comment on how good those are, but what I do know from personal experience and others is that the E36 is a solid car and a great DD.

>>13902233
They're nice to drive just don't expect it to be as economical as a little japanese car. The fixes are going to be more expensive and more common. I love my BMW and it's just the nature of the beast. Stay on top of the maintenance to minimize bigger problems is the best thing I can recommend.

Are you looking for an auto or manual. If you're interested in an auto BMW claims the fluid lasts a lifetime in the automatics but you can run into early transmission failures by doing that. Get the fluid changed out if you get an automatic.

>>13902063
>>13902090
Does no one have the Ethan facebook screenshot.

you get an e46 because you want damn fun in a damn comfy package, if you just want a little sporty on a commuter car, stick to an infiniti or something.

e46s need care and attention and preferably a garage so you can work on them at any point during the year or time of day

>>13901963

After a shit ton of research OP I just ended up with an '11 328i AWD. Whatever you do don't get a 335i if you're on a budget. The n52 in the 328i/330i is pretty solid.

Keep an eye out for water pump problems though.

If you want a car just buy it. It's not like it's a significant investment. Just work on it yourself. BMWs are no more complicated or harder to work on than any other car. e46 is basically just a re-unibodied e36. M52/4 is strong and will last a long time if you keep the water system maintained and follow the belt/belt tensioner maintenance interval on the serpentine.

Make sure to check the rear subframe for cracks before you buy an e46. You can google how and where to check. Might not apply to later model cars, not sure.

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>everyone talking about the E46 when OP should obviously get an E90 330i

>>13903440
Purist?

>>13903480
Why what's the significant difference?

>>13903468
Water pump and cooking system issues have been on all years of the 3 series?

>>13902511
?
>>13902345
So what would be a good starter BMW to actually ease myself in to the company and it's culture

>>13903610
Everything.. E90 is a completely new generation. E46 is just a revamped E36.

>>13902345
For now an auto until I can find a friend to teach me how to drive manual

>>13903622
What were the notable improvements? Any easier to work on than the e46?

>>13903620
e30 has the largest userbase.
e36 is also popular.

both are cheap to buy and cheap to maintain.

Other popular cars are E28, E21, E9, and 2002. But, those are all probably too old for someone not totally mechanically inclined.

>>13903627
You can learn it yourself. Don't buy an automatic unless it's like a 2012+

Automatics that weren't made in the last few years are absolute trash.

>>13903637
For a daily, both aren't great. E36's have shit interiors and look dated. E46 and E39 have large userbases as well and have more modern luxuries and bigger engines.

>>13903637
So a good place to start would be the e36 with a good car fax
>>13903647
Is it even possible to teach yourself to drive a manual properly

>>13903683
How about an early e90

>>13903606
i guess so?
i have an e9x, it's not as fun as an e46

>>13903637

E30 has the largest userbase of enthusiastfags, weebs, and hipsters.

E90 has a massive normalfag userbase because they're still relatively new and low miles but have taken massive depreciation hits.

>>13905107
also they aren't nearly as enthusiastic to fix problems themselves. so you'll get a lot of "go to the dealer" when you post a problem on the e90post forums. its even worse for e60 people

>>13905117

There seems to be a pretty healthy DIY base on e90post from the few months i've been lurking there.

i have a warranty though so fuck that shit.

>>13905136
if you think that's healthy, look up the e46 diy base

>>13905184

Obviously older cars have more poorfag owners and hence more DIY stuff, but if you need to figure out how to fix something on an E90 you shouldn't have much trouble finding a thread or a youtube video.

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I dd an E30 and wouldn't buy bmw again unless I could get an older one, or e36/e39/e46 really cheap while still in decent condition.

If you're serious about getting one I would go through all the maintenance things (forums will help immensely). Look up the prices of common things that people replace such as water pumps, power steering, oil sensor, fuel, and whatever else

>people recommending an E90s

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>>13905196
>>people recommending an E90s

>tfw 6 years of warranty

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>>13905208
might be nice if you can afford them m8, but they're pretty bland looking, and I imagine with all the new tech it's probably a boring ride

after e46 time bmw kinda went into 'how can we make everything a bar of soap?' with a few exceptions of course

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>>13905236

>all the new tech

there's pretty much no tech in my car, other than power heated seats. 6MT and AWD make it pretty fun to rip around corners, but it's still a comfy roadtrip car.

Looks are subjective I guess but I think with a moderate drop they can look great. I like the E46 too but I didn't really want a 10+ year old car.

>>13905196
So owning a e90 is not economical or is that only true for the later models

>>13905117
So avoid e90 then?

>>13907277
well its certainly comfier than the e46

>>13907284
But mechanically will it cost me an arm and a leg if I can't fix it myself

>>13907297
the e90 is more reliable than the e46, but the parts are more expensive and its harder to DIY

>>13907297
probably will hurt your wallet for a while

I'm the kind of guy to do everything I can DIY so I'd prefer an e46. If you don't think you're capable then have enough funds set aside for maintenance on the E90

>>13901963
My old man got an E36(325i) for $2k, and so far has spent $3k fixing that shit up again. No, the Haynes manual really didn't help. If you're gonna get a beamer, get something older (80s-90s) before they started making fucking everything in the car rely on electronics. Easier to fix, cheaper parts, and a better driving experience.

>>13907375
But I would miss out on a few creature comforts on top of a more powerful base machine

>>13907459
The only creature comfort you "need' is a working air con unit. Everything else is just pointless dribble, and is another potential thing to go wrong.

bmw tech here
yes parts are much more expensive
older cars you can do a decent bit of work on your own but id say anything newer than an e46 you really cant do anything yourself without the bmw diagnostic equipment/ computer software.

basically yes its worth it because theyre awesome cars, but you have to be able to afford the premium

>>13907520
you can get a can-bus to usb diagnostic tool for like $200 on ebay and pirate the bmw diagnostic software and put it on an old xp laptop

>>13907477
Not having a heated seat is like being a cave man. What's the point in living if you can't have your ass warmed on a cold morning?

>>13907536
More like $22 for the cable

>>13907573
Every bmw since the fucking e21 has has heated seats available dude

>>13907573
Maybe you should put your pants on before you go out into the cold?

>>13905236
>might be nice if you can afford them m8, but they're pretty bland looking, and I imagine with all the new tech it's probably a boring ride
The cognitive dissonance is palpable.

>>13902090
BULL SHIT
The plastic impellers will split in half just because they're old. Coolant doesn't matter. It's not like corrosion is the problem, it's the shit pile water pumps. Even BMW fanboys admit this, but not you.

>>13907520
Would the software be essential

From what I read on the e90 forms the e90 is actually solidly built with most of the problems actually being possible to DIY

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This is mine, e90, 2000cc Diesel.
You need to know that i live in Italy tho.

In my experience i can say that yes, replacement parts are a bit more expensive than your average Fiat but it's kinda in line with other german cars. I suspect that even VW and it's sister companies (seat, skoda etc) have above average replacement prices.

Anyway, the car is fine and good. Had some little problems with known problems with electronics, but the drivetrain it's strong and good and it's a lot more car that I hoped, really.

It's fast and economical, I bought it used with the bare essentials i was looking for (manual, no shitty idrive, etc.).

Now i do the ordinary oil and filter on my own, what you really,really need to do this is a way to lift the car.

What You guys think about 520 e34? How many km can do this enginge? It's too much to buy 300k km +?

>>13908925
How many miles do you have on yours, have you had any major problems

What's the difference between the 1 series and the 3 series

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>>13903683
I disagree.. e36 doesn't look dated to me. The interiors are fine if you take care of them. typical 90s interior. this is mine.

My experience owning a BMW:
- Air Conditioning hose leaked. Tons of labor to replace an inaccessible hose.
- Windshield washer pump broke.
- Heated Steering Wheel never worked.
- HVAC system didn't work after disconnecting and reconnecting the battery. Had to take it to BMW to "reset" computer.
- Hard on tire wear, BMW's suspension has dynamic toe adjustment that puts excess wear on tires.
- Stereo crashed and rebooted whenever it tried to play certain MP3 files from USB.

>>13909440
E90? German electronics aren't the greatest

>>13908881
yep
>>13907536
well there are multiple bus systems on a single vehicle, if they hook up to the gateway module through the obd2 port or something that would be fucking awesome

>>13908925
vw prices arent even close to bmw

>>13912329
Don't Audi and vw parts share

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>>13909176

I have almost 120K Km now, bought at half of that. That should be 74K miles.
No major problems, in more than 4 years of ownership. Biggest of 'em all was the service reflash the Steering Lock ECU.
Long story short, that ECU read disturbances on the electrical bolt that locks the steering when you remove the key from the car.
It had a way much more sensitive software, leading to warnings even if the lock was engaging OK. So had to be reprogrammed. 80 €.

Other than that, just regular manteniance. Changing my own oil and filters is a 150ish € expense.

The difference ? The 1er and the 3er are different cars. One is a compact hatchback and the the Three is a compact sedan. They usually share engines tho.

>>13912329
Where I live they are expensive, sure not equal, but somewhat closer than you say.
That also sometimes applies for Renaults, don't know why

what about the diesel ones ?
The -25 tds seems pretty good and able to travel a long distance before going oompa-loompa do da dee do.
Are they worth buying ? (i can found plenty in good shape where i live for 2000-3000 yuros)

>>13909026
If its the M30 engine E34, they're unbreakable. The M20 ones were prone to timing belt issues.

The E34 however is still said to be the best and most reliable BMW ever built, the M30 also made numerous top 10 lists for performance and reliability. I frequently see them in my area with 300k plus kms, some as high as 500k still going just fine.

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I have an e90 xi and idk about it being reliable. the one I bought had a spent front driveshaft which isnt to hard to replace if you get a used one. but for some odd reason my oilpan has several cracked bolts and as well as a few of my engine mount bolts. which will cost me at least 1100 usd to get fixed by turner. but other than that its rather easy to replace the water pump and all the spark plugs and ignition coils. if you have the time and the money and the tools. so id rate them as rather good cars. but idk if the lady that owned it before me was a racer or that oilpan is a common problem.

>>13909440
>Heated Steering Wheel never worked

oh no how did you deal with that? that sounds terrible

>>13902054
>this one guy I know said something
Great anecdote mate

Your friend is a faggot

>>13902054
N54 engine on the 2012 35s is notorious for the high pressure fuel pump failing, however this is covered under BMW's recall stuff. Subsequently, the injectors tend to go not long after the HPFP.

I had an 08 535 xdrive that had the same issues. Cost me $2,100.00

I bought the new N55 BMW 535 and it was great until I totaled it.

>>13903480
I'd rather have the e46 than the e90. The n54 engine is shit.

>>13918723
Fact?

>>13918729
The n54 had a shit ton of reliability issues. The e90's with the n54s had HPFP issues, vanos issues, fuel injector issues, turbo issues and an obnoxious and constant waste gate rattle that sounded like someone shaking a jar of nickels under your car every time you do a cold start.

>>13918750
Is that something they fixed in the later models

>>13919299
Hey cool to see this thread is still going and you're still researching, no such thing as too much research.

I'll keep it short and simple. Go with a early 2000s or earlier model. The E36 are among the most reliable, the E34 is literally regarded as being THE most reliable and all before those are also nice and reliable.

>>13919362
Thanks man I appreciate that, you're right you can never have too much information.

Order then the water pump issue would the e46 be reliable as I'm not completely sold on the the e36 styling

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love my e46, nobody thinks it's 15 years old. It's amazing how modern these still feel.

>>13921754
pre facelift look best

>>13921760
What did they change with the facelift anyway

Don't buy an early bmw. I'm dead serious. 99% of people crying about the N54 engine have never even owned one. I've had one for 6 years (count: 6 years) and only replaced my HPFP once for the recall, turbos and wastegate are fine. 08 E92 335i with 115,000 kms. What you have to realize, OP, is that people only come on the internet to complain. That's why shit looks so bad. Nobody comes on the internet to say "hey everything is great with my car, bye".

I also own an E46 and it's nothing but problems. 01 330ci, 120,000 kms. Fucking cupholders break constantly and I use them maybe once a month. Electrical gremlins out the fucking wazoo. Clock pixels just died this month. Cooling system constantly shitting itself. Another fun fact, 99% of people who say early/pre 2000 models are the last good BMWs; they're poor. Dirt poor. The LCI E90 is the absolute best BMW.

>m-muh e46 m3

>>13921792
larger grilles on a different hood, new adaptive headlights, LED tails (which I retrofitted OEM onto my car in the picture above, fenders, and bumpers. also 330 got a 6 speed

>>13921795
your e46 was likely abused before you got it. N54s are shit when it comes to reliability, even BMW admits that.

>>13909176

>What's the difference between the 1 series and the 3 series

eh...everything? they are two completely different cars

>>13921795
So many conflicting reports haha definitely confusing. So the n54 is the more solid of the two engine's. The e90 electrical system and cooling system all are more reliable than the e46 and e36?

>>13921811
>N54s are shit when it comes to reliability
Again, no they aren't. Want to know the frequency my local dealership sees N54s come in for HPFP/turbo problems? Less than 10%. I'm not stupid, I get that a lot of people had problems, that's why there were class actino lawsuits. But people who think you shouldn't buy a 335 because "shit reliability" are fucking retarded. I bought my car at ~10,000kms, added 100,000kms and literally only replaced the HPFP when the recall hit; and it was working fine anyways, I just wanted the software update and the Continental unit.

And no, my E46 isn't shitty. This is what owning a 15 year old car is like. Ever notice how all the guides and maintenance pdfs are from 2006-2010? 5 years is a long time. These cars are awful now.

>>13902217
There's no point in buying an old base model BMW. You're just going to be paying high maintenance and repair costs for a car that's less fun than many newer, more reliable cars.

>>13921822
Aren't they both considered compact sedans?

>>13921843
No, the N52 is the "more solid", if we're talking reliability. The E90 328, for example, has the N52. Yes the E90 (LCI, not pre LCI) electrical and cooling are more reliable. They are more refined vehicles as naturally BMW adapts and evolves on it's equipment. (Except that awful steering the F chassis use)

>>13921847
E46s aren't awful now, literally bullshit. Still very dependable daily drivers and look nicer than the bubble body E90.

>>13921866
>look nicer
Pretty subjective, as I own an E46 and E92, and my E92 is infinitely better looking in my opinion. Turns heads. Nobody gives a fuck about my E46. My girlfriend says "it's nice, it just looks old and boring".

Do you have an E46? If everything is fine now, get ready for the storm buddy. Every E46 owner is getting theirs the past couple years.

>>13921884
I own an E46 coupe, posted a picture earlier in thread. Owned it going on 6 years, literally replaced entire suspension short of subframe bushings, entire cooling system, vacuum components, interior parts, etc. The car is solid and will be fine for many years. I know the car like the back of my hand.

>>13921847
To be honest OP, I'd listen to this guy. He sounds like he actually has first hand experience with these cars. Pretty much everyone else in this thread is just repeating what they're heard/read with no (anecdotal) proof.

>>13909234

Do you live in the usa? E36's always seem to look better maintained over there. Imagine your car parked infront of some shitty council flat with pakis hanging around. Thats the main reason why e36's look dated overhere in europe

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>>13921862

the 1 series is a small hatchback, don't know if they are even sold in the states

>>13901963
>E90/F30

Just kill yourself now, it'll save the pain later

>>13921949
>F30
What part of 03-07 makes you think F30?

>>13921795
Is it possible to DIY e90 for minor problems or does everything have to be taken care of through the dealership

>>13922041
Depends on how handy you are. E46 is a little easier to work on but break more

>>13922041
Just go with an old one. The old models were more mechanical and less prone to electrical bugs, things went bad for BMW in the 2000s for electrics. I know you want a newer one badly but you have to be prepared for doing maintenance.

>>13923778
From what I've been reading the e46 would be a good compromise

>>13924776
I'm telling you, you're going to have to constantly repair any E46 you buy. The idea that a 15 year old BMW is more reliable than a 7 year old refined, evolved model is ludicrous.

I have been thinking of buying a -10 e90. Are they trouble free?

>>13926978
It isn't though. Mercedes made in the 70s and 80s are more reliable than most Mercedes of today and BMW is about the same.

The E46 is a good compromise but just keep an eye on all the electrics, something could go wrong. A good tip is to buy one from near the end of the cars production run since they've usually figured out and fixed the bugs of the previous years.

>>13927024
>Are they trouble free?
No car is going to be trouble free, whether it's a BMW or a Honda. If it was maintained well, and you do the same, 99% chance it will be fine. Unless it's really old, we're talking 12+ years old. Then it's gonna be falling apart slowly. Just the nature of things.

>>13927629
I don't know anything about MB but I posted earlier in this thread, and I have both an E92 and E46 with low mileage, both very well taken care of and realistically I'm replacing something on my E46 every month, and fixing something every second weekend. It's a good car and I've had it a few years, but another $1000 in parts and I'll be selling it.

>>13926978
So is there anyway to make an older BMW more comfortable and a little more refined without breaking the bank

>>13929750
Best and most reliable BMWs to buy without breaking the band
>BMW E30
>BMW E34
>BMW E36
>BMW E39
>BMW E46 (though can be electrically problematic)

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>>13902143
>$150 isn't significantly more expensive than normal cars

Here's the pump for mine.

>>13930129
Why no E32?

>>13930373
I don't think OP wanted something that big. But if I were getting an E32, I'd get the 730i or the 735i since they used the invincible M30 engine.

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>>13930395
730 master race
The 4HP22 transmission is fucking disgusting trash though, like holy hell that thing burns through clutches like no tomorrow. Who the fuck thought that thing was a good idea, revving it on neutral will blow it up.

>>13930401
Perhaps an auto is a better idea. From what I've seen, there's more autos than manuals going around anyway.

>>13930403
The automatic ones are more common, but like I said, the transmission is garbage and extremely unreliable.

>>13930129
Anything that would cripple the car

>>13930561
For which car? The E46?

Being that I've not owned one and only heard stories, I honestly couldn't say. I just know that small shit like power windows or small lights might fuck up.

>>13930624
Yes the e46 and I figure if have fewer electrical problems with the later years

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>>13930649
I'm not sure for the E46. I guess google common problems?

Still, the best picks are honestly an E34 or E36.

>>13930652
E34's have radiator issues, mostly due to their old age though. The M20 engine while impossible to kill is an interference design with the nastiest timing BELT ever made, that thing has like a 20K km changing interval.

>>13930685
Chances are you'd have to overhaul the cooling system anyway and as for the M20, I'd only ever pick the M30. The M20 was awfully under powered anyway and the timing belt didn't help.

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>>13930652
Get a E36, specifically a 328i or M3. And this is coming from a guy who owns and maintains a E34 540i/6spd. Unless you love the sound of a BMW V8.

There's more aftermarket for a E36 compared to a E34. Easier to make a E36 more fun, both on straights and corner, compared to a E34.

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>>13930401
I think you mean 740i master race friend

>>13930763
Do you live in San Jose or where lol im curious?
this is me btw >>13930772

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>>13930773
[spoiler]Maybe.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Why?[/spoiler]

>>13930777
>>13930777
Because I live in Santa Rosa lol so I go there and I have been to that shopping center i think and im all too familiar with all the asian car meets and scene in the Yay area thats like 1/3 of my friends lol. Also i think I have seen your car.
ps. Do you like to drift?

>>13930777
Also nice car, mine has the alpina sport suspension on it. And why no front plate?

>>13930793
Ohh, barber lane, Milpitas. I still go there nearly every weekend for milktea.

I'm on expensive Michelin PSS, so I can't and won't drift. I prefer racing up highway 9.

>>13930798
I think it looks better without the front plate. Cops never have pulled me over in my E34, they don't give my car a glance. Since it looks like any old grandpa car to them.

>>13930814
awesome, i go to the quickly by the Junior College here all the time. and oh okay haha mr traction. and I feel that still never been pulled over and I drive 130-150 on 101 like erryday and charge corners at 60 and rip them sideways. The transportermobile is certainly a sleeper.

BMWs suck.

Does anybody on here recommend E46 cabrio?

>these people recommending shitty ass old BMWs as cheap/reliable dd

Can I have whatever you guys are on?

>>13933733
So what do you recommend

get a e36
throw in 3k for suspension refreshing and what not.
get a comfy spec wheel/tire ratio going instead of 19 INCH RIMZ, CUT SPRINGS F.A.M..
Enjoy your german cruiser for many years to come.

>>13933782
What are your favorites?

>>13934046
Not quite sure yet, but I like the e46s looks price reliability ease of diy and performance of the 330i

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>>13935480
Then get a 330i E46. Just keep in mind the faster E46 models can have subframe issues (cracks, etc). Make sure to check for those. Be VIGILANT in looking for a well taken care of E46. Pre purchase inspection, go to E46 fanatics and look at their buying guide. Get very familiar with that. If you buy a neglected lemon you're going to regret it.