/ddt/ DAILY DATSUN THREAD:

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Today I finally got my car insured AND registered! I'll finnally be able to drive it around legally.

And if anyone is interested, the cheapest insurance for my Z was with Geico. $60.21 a month, which is way cheaper than I thought it was going to be.

While at the DMV there was this sweet 260Z, so I parked right next to it and took this picture. I talked to the owner as he was walking out of the DMV, turns out he owns 4 cars total. All of them are Datsun 260Zs. He checked out mine and I checked out his. Honestly, every classic Z owner I have met has been deeply in love with their Z and was just a nice person.

I love ya guys.

>>13876283
>>13876359
finally, thank goodness!

My family and I literally just got back from a four day trip to visit my grandmother in southern california (we buried my grandfathers ashes).

But remember Stockton blvd and Fruitridge blvd, the super dangerous section of road you drove on to drop me off? Yeah, two cars were on fire there when we drove back.

>>13876648
(also finally thank goodness is in regards to your registration and insurance, high five on that)

>>13876359
Wait is that the Lodi DMV?

>>13876648
>>13876653
Shit man, I'm sorry to hear about that. I hope you atleast enjoyed your break.

Yeah man that road is insane, I don't doubt it.

>>13876750
Yes it is, you a localbro?

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'night fagatrons

>>13877065
Yeah I live in Stockton but I spend most of my time in Lodi, my 240 is kept at a friend's house up there. Hell I just came back from there. You see the 280zx on elm Street? There's also an Asian guy who has a very nice 510, I think he's a member of datslocos

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Should I buy my uncle's Datsun ? Pic related, don't know the year but it used to run about 4 years ago until transmission fucked up, its been sitting in the street for a while and the floor is full of rust, would the restoration cost too much? Also anyone know the exact model and year?

>>13877688
fuck no, that shit is scrap.

>>13877688
Hell no

>>13877660
Shit man I'm in Stockton all the time, that's where I work. I work in the same parking lot as Hobby Lobby, Weinerschnitzel, and Big 5. I'll be DDing my 280, if you ever drive by that way you'll probably see it.

>You see the 280zx on elm Street? There's also an Asian guy who has a very nice 510

Can't say I've seen ether of those. I'll keep and eye out for them though, I love spotting local Datsuns.

Wait, are you talking about that all black 280zx? I've seen that once a couple months ago while I was driving to work, it looked clean as hell.

I'm not sure if this is allowed in this thread, but what do you guys think about the Y30 Cedric?

I might buy one with the LD28 diesel, but parts availability worries me.

>>13879777
>I'm not sure if this is allowed in this thread
basically everything is allowed in this thread, we're all chill. You could even talk about Toyota's and we won't bag on ya.

As for the Y30 Cedric, I don't think I can help ya there; I really don't know enough about them to give an accurate assessment.

But I will tell you that the LD28 is the best L series engine ever made, parts quality wise. Forged everything (except pistons), and all it really needs to go 1 million miles plus is maybe new rod bolts from ARP.

Parts availability isn't as easy as going to a store, yes, but they are available. But more importantly, I don't see you needing to replace parts all that often.

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ENKEI COMPE MASTER RACE

>>13879651
Nah buy I may have seen that one, I was at the DMV a few weeks ago paying for my 350z and spotted a 280zx turbo. Guy wanted 6k for it, was very jealous
>tfw no l28et

Is it possible to own a (nice) Datsun as my first car?
Insurance is a bitch in britbongistan

Z cars are such amazing vehicles.

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>mfw I managed to get a factory black 280zx turbo five speed
Even has a digital dash

>>13881026
>>13881114

I like 5 speed 280zx turbo. I think they are pretty cool cars that get shit talked on alot.

I love the l28et. I wish I could put that in my 280 with a 5 speed, shit would fly. But its not as easy to just drop in a turbo or a new turbo engine. You have to reinforce everything so the car doesnt breakdown every other day.

>>13881091
It depends on if your out of high school and have a job, then it's more than possible.

There is a 280zx turbo for 1500$ near me but has ignition trouble I think. Guy says it will start and run but some days won't even crank. Very intermittent. Worth?

>>13881091
>britbongistan
good luck finding a datsun bub

>>13881114
lucky cunt

>>13881171
the L28ET can be put into an S30 chassis with zero modifications, and the chassis will hold the power with no problem.

The S30 chassis, and especially the 280Z, can hold around 375hp before it needs beefing up. That, coincidentally, is about as much power as you can get out of an L28ET before you have to crack it open and make modifications.

>>13881207
that's wiring trouble right there, if you plan on swapping the engine into something else, get it and part that vehicle out to recoup some of the costs.

>>13881171
Thats the only engine I really want in my 240z, But I havent been able to find one and when I do something else takes my money. Its a vicious cycle

how hard is it to install the backup sensor by myself? the car is a toyota matrix. what kind of tools do I need?

or else I'll be paying 250 for the installation...

>>13881392
anything past 350hp on a stock 280z makes it a pure straightline car
onwards is goodbye wallet

>>13881542
not so: throw some decent 225's on, replace the shocks, springs, and bushings (not modifications, just replacements on normal wear items), and it will be tail happy but it will handle quite well.

That's why I want to get an RB20DET. I can get around 275hp to the wheels just with a cheap RB25DET steel turbo and boost adjustment, and it will be more reliable and less expensive down the road than an L28ET.

>>13881460
google is gonna be your friend on this one, I'm not too familiar with the Matrix. Also, if we can help we'll need the year of your vehicle.

>>13881602
never get into fixing cars, but after watching a few videos about wiring with other cars, seems pretty easy as long as I have the tools and know the wirings.
>2006 matrix

>>13881618
there's no way better to learn than to do, so good luck

>>13882482
I'll go check out the car soon see if I can pull out any plastic panels

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awwww shit, Petrolicious released an article about the 240Z

http://www.petrolicious.com/ten-ways-the-240z-revolutionized-the-sports-car

>http://www.petrolicious.com/ten-ways-the-240z-revolutionized-the-sports-car

>In 1998, following the Z32 300ZX’s departure from the States two years prior, and in anticipation of 1999’s 240Z concept (itself conceived to drum up excitement for 2002’s 350Z), Nissan purchased a number of original 240Z’s which were treated to high-quality restorations and re-sold at selected dealerships for $24,000.

Holy shit I didnt know this, thats badass. anyone have any pics of these?

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Thought I might share my Z with you guys.

>>13883229
Nice Z, tell us more.

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Dangit 260z, why'd your first 3 cylinders decide to not fire? They have spark, fuel, seems to lack the air. Looks like the 240z carbs that were thrown in need a rebuilt it seems....

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>>13883229
OH FUCK I KNOW YOU!

Love the Z, dude! Welcome!

>>13883094
hnnng

>>13883178
>anyone have any pics of these?
I'll find some innaminute

>>13883504
that is a nice fucking 260, man.

Welcome to the group!

And yeah, sounds like your carbs will need a rebuild. Thankfully, they can be rebuilt at home without too much trouble (although adding bushings can be a bit of a bitch)

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>>13883178
here's a Jalop-shit article, but it's good.

http://jalopnik.com/what-happened-to-all-the-datsun-240zs-nissan-restored-i-1583370936

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>>13883754
>>13883178
they mention them in this article. I lol'd when reading the websites name....

https://www.carnichiwa.com/car-shows/nissan-drives-classics-to-memphis-2015-international-z-car-convention/

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>>13883484
78 Datsun 280z
T3 coils
Work VS Mesh 17x9 wheels
Nissan Cherry tail lights
Upgraded sway bars


I have a 1uz swap in my garage waiting to go in.

>>13883715

Thanks, haha my car is kind of memorable.

>>13884155
>she trippin'
fuck TankGirl, we got a new chick on the block.
Those tail lights are pretty bitchin' as well.

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you spend on the T3 coils?

>>13884155
Got a pic with the tail lights on at night? Wondering what they look like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLCcMmm7UE

>>13884244
imma piggyback with this

>>13884155
>finally read that you have a 1UZ swap

hnnnnnnng, if someone *had* to do a V8 swap, that would definitely be the best one for an S30 (well, the 1980's Nissan President's V8 would be the best, but this is a close second)

>>13884295
what the ever living fuck, anon.

But here's some good Japanese 1960's blues rock to listen to while driving your Datsun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC5k3zAWpq0

>>13884297
I would love to do a 1uz swap into my 240. But im just looking forward to get it on the road. Just have to save up a bit more

>>13884297
>1980 Nissan President's V8

I'm assuming you're talking about the Y44 engine? Just read the wiki article on it. Electronic fuel injection in 1975? Interesting.

>>13884342
I believe so.
I just remember it from this car, a Bob Sharp 280ZX that was raced in the 1981 season. Had a V8 out of a Nissan President that was twin turbo'd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asD9xdCGTx4

>>13884397
this car is certifiably nuts: 940hp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x4Hrvt2ZL0

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>>13884201
I have been tripped on here for years I just don't post much.

I spent 400 on the kit, then another 500 on top of that for shorter struts and another 200 on front camber plates. So 1100 or so.

>>13884244
I hope that works for you.

>>13884297
On top of that it is going thing a turbo and megasquirt

>>13885129
>On top of that it is going thing a turbo and megasquirt
that reminds me of Nate Spring's 280Z he put a 1UZ in, then turbo'd it. Another anon sent me this yesterday: with 10 psi, he made 362hp and 380rwtq.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f3lu2q3-XA

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Can I use this to turbo my l28? I'm hoping to get around 10-12 lbs of boost from it.

>>13886190
Cant see shit captain.

Even then without some specs to do math it means jack shit. Try to find a boost map for it.

>>13886226
I can work out the math later, but I need to figure out how to make it fit under the hood first. My foot is next to it to give an idea of the size

>>13886065
awful powerband

>>13886829
yeah nah

>>13886849
did we watch the same video? it was in boost for maybe a second. even worse when you consider that was a 3rd or 4th gear pull and its only 10psi. awful.

>>13886065
Yeah I know Nate on Facebook, we are friends. I have picked his brain a bit. He went with the stock 1uz ecu and a piggy back to make it work with the turbo. The only thing I haven't worked out yet so which turbo I am using as this new ground for me.

>>13885129
Did you get the weld on camber or bolt on camber plates? I've been debating getting getting the t3 coil overs for a while now.

Do you think they are worth it vs some new struts, springs & sway bars?

>>13883715
Thanks (guy with copper 260z)

I'll probably pull the carbs in a few weeks and refurbish and clean them...they probably needed it as I smoke tested the intake system and the throttle rods leaked out the bushings a bit.

>>13887944
>I smoke tested the intake system and the throttle rods leaked out the bushings a bit.
good luck. You'll need a good drill press, drill bits, a set of punches, a micrometer, a set of files, and some more tools.

Here's some stuff for you to read:

http://www.mossmotoring.com/rebushing-su-carburetor-bodies/

this is interesting

http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/40433-su-mod-sealing-worn-throttle-bushings/

this is a good video demonstrating what you'll need to do; I suggest you use delrin or another composite and not brass, due to the micro welding (the throttle shaft is brass, so brass on brass is a no-no)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQykLNCcc0U

Mind you, all these articles aren't all datsun specific, so measurements should be considered wrong. Take your own measurements.

>>13887922

They are weld on though I only have them in front, I need to get some for the rear.

The are awesome in my opinion but for the same price as the whole setup you can get one of the better weld in kits.

>>13888766
If you were to do it over again, would you do the DIY cut-and-welded strut tube S13 coil over option? It's like $600 when all said and done, with all four corners.

http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/87193-just-finished-s13-coilovers-into-s30/

>>13888814
I would do it again but I wouldn't cheap out on the struts like I did. I built mine back when you couldn't get Tokico Illuminas as therr was no US distributor. Don't go 240sx coils they are completely wrong for a Z which weighs a lot less. I know there is a set of Megan's for the Z you can get through McKinney Motorsports. You can also get BC coils through JPN Garage. Both of those are comparable in price.

>>13888873
>$1,200
Yeah no. That's better spent on brake upgrades and better tires.

Also, there's only a 200lb difference between the S30 and the S13.

>>13888966
The weigh distributions are still different.Either you pay the money now or later. I fought with that myself.

The stock brakes are fine even when you add a little power. A better suspension is a good start, that and tires.

>>13889014
having the ability to stop is much more important than having the ability to handle.

The weight distributions really aren't that different; the stock weight distribution on an S13 is 47/53, while stock weight distribution in a '72 240Z is 48/52.

And when you take into account that when you put an SR20 into an S13 (like the 180SX had), the weight distribution becomes an almost perfect 50/50. A lot of people using S13's with SR's use coil overs with great success, and they have an even larger 3% gap to fill than an S30 would, it only having to change 2%.

>>13888966
even if you were to use s13 coilovers would you really want to use the same struts? and what about camber plates?

It comes out to basically the same price as GabbZ maybe even more. You can get the ground control DIY coilovers for like 450 which are the same as T3's.

>>13889070
I am just saying the stock brakes are pretty damn good.

You clearly already talked yourself into the 240sx coilovers, so do it. It's not a bad option just not one I would prefer. You cant do that swap for $600 when the adapters themselves are over $400. All I am saying is do it right the first time and you wont have issues down the line $1200 is cheap for a set of coils on a Z.

>>13889070
The brakes are fine on early z's

>bu, bu, but muh drum brakes

unless you're doing a wilwood rear conversion it's not worth it. Yeah it's dated, but they work really well. The ZX or maxima conversions are utter crap and you won't even notice a difference. The Z is already light, with front disks.

>>13888966
>brake upgrades
A rear disc conversion is all you really need unless you're actually racing the car and it's really more for convenience than anything else.
For just tearing up the twisties, some stickier pads and MAYBE drilled/slotted rotors will be sufficient.

If you're that concerned with cheap coilovers, JPN also sells a set made by CX Racing for about $900. They appear to be identical to the BC setup.
I plan on getting BCs only because I'm familiar with their product whereas I have no experience with CX and cannot attest to their quality.

>>13889103
>would you really want to use the same struts?
I really don't see it as that big of a deal: it's not as world ending as you think. It would function fine, and I guarantee you handle better than the car with stock suspension.

As for camber plates, they're not rocket science, I could fab them if I wanted to.

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>>13889235
Have you ever even driven a 240/60/80Z? Do you even own a half descent one?

If yours is half as clean as this I guarantee you she drives like a fucking dream.

Frankenstein your shit bucket all you want, I'll do mine my way.

>80k miles
>no rust
>2nd owner

>>13889124
>You cant do that swap for $600 when the adapters themselves are over $400
yes you can: cut the strut tubes so it's only about an inch high, slide the coilover perch on, weld it, and assemble. Total price: $0.70 for welding wire or $15 to take it to my buddies shop and have him TIG them.

>>13889124
>I am just saying the stock brakes are pretty damn good.
they are not bad, yes. But they can be vastly improved, especially with the Toyota calipers. Two pot calipers are much better than the one pot stockers.

>>13889154
>>bu, bu, but muh drum brakes
I want those things gone so fast you don't even know. Drum brakes are a pain to mess with. And I've seen lots of success with the ZX rear disks, actually.
>>13889160
>A rear disc conversion is all you really need unless you're actually racing the car and it's really more for convenience than anything else.

exactly.

But my overall point being: I will first invest in brakes before I invest in handing, and since I need new shocks and springs quite badly, I'll go with a cheap set of coil overs to tide my over. I really don't think it's gonna be that bad.

>>13889347
>Frankenstein your shit bucket all you want, I'll do mine my way.
go ahead, I'm not telling you to do shit.

And my car is currently a rusted to shit shell partially stripped in a garage, while I have a clean, low rust shell waiting for everything to be swapped over (that includes wiring, glass, complete drive train, brakes, etc).

It is a true shit heap. Hence, I don't feel bad with throwing less than perfect application coilovers on it.

Also,

>80k miles

lel, enjoy your 180k mile car.

>>13889353
>Four small pistons are better than two large pistons
>Plus a new master cylinder
>Plus new discs
>Plus grinding shit to fit
>For a marginal gain at best

>I'll go with a cheap set of coil overs to tide me over.
Why not shocks/springs, then?
Less work and even cheaper than coils.
>But muh clearance
The stock struts can fit an 8''+/-0 wheel with a 225 tire. If you're really paranoid, you can roll the fender lip to make extra sure the tire doesn't rub.

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>>13889380
>rusted to shit partially stripped in a garage

damn, wouldn't know that feeling.

I think I'm gonna go for a little midnight ride right now in my all original baby.

enjoy your ca- oh wait you can't

>>13889444
>enjoy your ca- oh wait you can't
Damn, I think you're the first asshole S30 owner I've encountered. Enjoy your douchebag lifestyle, I guess.

(also if you can't enjoy working on your vehicle, good luck driving one hard)

How hard to find are 5 speeds for the L28? I know the 280zx ones worked but I'm wondering if there's any alternatives to look for.

>>13888873
Oh I love McKinney motorsports. A buddy's 280z has their full set of frame rails that extwd along the whole length of the body and the car is so much stiffer than before. Would buy when I get my z.

>>13889523
Borg-Warner T5, which is still a ZX tranny.
You could find another T5 from some other application and stick a ZX bellhousing on it.

>>13889523
the early 70's to early 80's Nissan F series of transmissions are the only ones available that bolt onto the L-series blocks without adapter plates.

But with adapter plates, there are a lot of different trans that will bolt up. Even the newer 370Z CD009 six speed bolts up with some work.

>>13889490
Oh man you haven't met the stance kids in Seattle area who buy 260z's and slam them and all they do is bad mouth other people thinking they're hot shit with an older cars. Some people just can't handle the fact that others like to modify their own cars in their own ways.

>>13885129
I'm genuinely curious as to how much those lights cost you and where you bought them. I know what car they came off of but I'm still curious. If appreciate any info.

>>13889724
>stance kids
they don't own their cars. They rape them.

But no, I haven't met or heard of them. They sound like dicks, though. Sorry that they act like that.

>>13889737
Honestly they work really hard on their cars and the quality of work isn't bad. They just drive away everyone that isn't in their bubble. I can appreciate that they work on their cars and learn about them but their attitudes suck.

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>>13889737
>raped

>>13889549
Oh nice, didnt know that
>>13889573
>370z tranny
Well I own a 350 and I like it but I was leaning more towards that 300zx trans since I've heard good things about them
>>13889724
Glad I havent had to deal with that shit here, the streets are fucking awful in lodi too, might get stuck on the train tracks like that one guy did in a camry
>>13889859
Too low

>>13889875
you're right, the Z32 transmission can bolt up with some work. You need to do some machining and get an adapter, though. Not a bad trans if you have the time and money though.

>>13889859
>fag camber
>shit flare job
>no front bumper
>TOO FUCKING LOW

absolutely disgusting

>>13889724
>stance kids in Seattle
There's no way stance cars survive in the actual city of hills, potholes and freeway speedbumps. You must mean Kent, Auburn and Renton.

>>13889353
>I'll go with a cheap set of coil overs to tide me over
and I just found out that won't happen: my father pointed out this lil' setup, which meets my needs/wants of a 1"-2" drop and better than stock handling.


http://brandcarparts.com/shocks-struts/select-by-car/datsun/280z/1975-1978-nissan-datsun-280z-stagg-shocks-struts-and-vogtland-lowering-springs-kit-1-25-drop.html

(I'm posting a link to the 280Z setup since the Stagg shocks for the 240Z aren't in-stock currently, but when they are they're the same price)

It's $300 for Vogtland lowering springs and good Stagg shocks, which isn't bad at all. The extra $200 I save is enough to buy a full car urethane bushing set. Major savings, great improvements in handling, and simple bolt in install without cutting.

It's not coilovers, but it will definitely do the job for now.

>>13890165
Also '76er, when you want to upgrade your shocks and springs, this would be a great set.

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'night doods

finally figured out what was wrong with the Honda!

That means Datsun work is going to advance at a rapid rate from now on.

Mwahahahaha....

Someone post some sexy 280zx's, I remember a black one being posted

How much would it cost me to clean this up?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5290115589.html
Is it even possible to at this point?

>>13893851
that's a lot of rust... conservative WAG estimate is around $1,000 to fix including tools needed to do it (assuming you do the labor)

Personally I'd look for something a little less rusty, and a coupe if you can.

Here, this is decent, it's cheaper, it's a coupe, and it's not that far.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5318555070.html

Holy shit I'm gone for like two days and there's actual discussion happening and shit. Good stuff.

>>13890165
Sweet tits, cheap and effective. I like it. I'll add those to me to do list.

What are even the advantages of having coilovers anyway? From what I understand you can lower or raise the car easier, is that all?

whats everyones favorate exhaust system for a Z?

Next on my list is getting new shocks/suspension, 5 speed, and new tires.
After that though, I'm getting a cold air intake and I want a pretty good exhaust. But I dont know shit about exhausts.

>>13893887
yeah but the plant growing in front of the headlight lowers confidence about the rest of the car, and there's no telling how much interior work will eventually be needed to be done. I'll text him about it though, maybe it only needs a new fuel pump/filter?

>>13894470
Space saving, lighter, usually interchangeable parts of you but multipiece coils, ease of access, easier to setup and dual in with adjustments. That's just a few.

>>13894470
>What are even the advantages of having coilovers anyway
better adjustability, you can more easily change camber, they're smaller in size so they allow larger wheels inside the stock wheel well, etc

>whats everyones favorate exhaust system for a Z?
I personally like to piss people off and I'm poor as shit, so my exhaust is going to be a straight pipe with a glass pack (primitive muffler).

But I've read that this is a good cheap exhaust setup:

"From the exhaust manifold back you have 2.5" pipe with china Magnaflow knockoff offset muffler on the end. Use the side with the most offset as the exit and rotate the body into the rear skirt/wheel well to hide it. Then a knock off non-louvered glass pack where the old resonator used to fit. You will have nice sounds and no drone or rasp, and it will be very inexpensive."

That was advice I saw from this dude, who has a very similar exhaust setup. Sounds awesome to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVwabeBUy8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTZzbPGtlE

I'm not an exhaust expert, I'm still learning. I'm most uneducated about suspension, to be honest.

>>13894583
>the plant growing in front of the headlight lowers confidence
......okay, yeah, I have to agree with you there.

Expect rust repairs on both. But this one will be a coupe at least, and it's less expensive. Think of the price savings as like getting a set of new struts and a whole car bushing kit.

>>13894940
I think if I'm willing to wait a bit I could probably knock the guy down to ~1/2 asking price, christ that engine bay looks bad. What're the odds that the engine is completely fucked and I'll have to replace it? If I'm doing that should I stick with the L28 or just go with whatever I can find at the pick and pull?

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damn i'm late to this thread

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>>13889776
sounds a lot like how the 240,260,280z lovers page has gradually become
DPAN is sort of in the same degradation path

>>13895011
Alright, so I found out the reason why it's been neglected. It didn't pass smog ~15 years ago and its sat ever since. At least that's the reason that he gave me.

>>13895044
that's why I like the Church of L Series group.

>>13895171
ask him for the license plate number, and we'll see if that's true.

If it is, you have a good find on your hand.

>>13895011
>What're the odds that the engine is completely fucked and I'll have to replace it?
Pretty low. It's hard to truly kill an L series.

>If I'm doing that should I stick with the L28 or just go with whatever I can find at the pick and pull?
keep it L28. One because they're good engines, and two because you have to have it pass smog.

>>13895171
mine sat for 22 years. I changed some minor things and it started right up.

Runs and revs great. Just be wary of the fee from registering it again.
was going to cost me $786 to do so.. but the dmv lady felt bad and instead she dropped the charge to $150.. and asked me to do a tune-up on her truck

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HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG THE SOOOOOUND

ABSOLUTE CAR PORN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waSYu4K_ys8

>>13895271
>Just be wary of the fee from registering it again.
ditto, this is huge.

But if he did nothing with the vehicle paperwork wise (paying off back fees, registering, insuring, etc) for at least 7 years, the DMV should have dropped it out of their system, which means no back fees.

>>13895325
that's what I was told until I actually went there..
just don't get your hopes up that there might not be a fee

>>13895313
I came.

>>13895313
Why must OS Giken hold their heads hostage?

>>13895424
go through AAA for that crap. The DMV will throw the fee back on normally, but AAA won't normally.

can you use louvers for a 240z-280z on a 280zx?

>>13896037
good question. I'll read up on it.

(although I'm gonna guess no, since the rear glass is different)

>>13895313
Wasnt tony D developing a dohc for the l28? I remember reading about it on hybrid z. Also I stopped by my friends house and noticed the tarp was off my 240z, made me real sad that its not road worthy yet

>>13896209
it's another guy fabbing it. I think he's using a honda head as a base and stretching it to mate to L series. Derek on HybridZ.

>>13896209
not Tony D, but Derek. And massive strides have been made! He should have a running engine by Christmas.

And a cool thing to remember: it will be a head design that is decades ahead of the Giken head.

>>13896329
Nice, would be amazing to have that and some mikunis.
>>13896301
Yeah I read about it using a k20 head or something. Its been awhile since I lurked those boards

>>13896301
yep. Custom cast head, billet cams and shit. It's a Honda K20 head with two extra cylinders, basically.

>>13896340
Have they mentioned a price?

>>13896346
he's thinking about $7,000 for a rough cast head with minimal machine work done, and cams. The rest can be machined at a shop, and the head components sourced from a K20.

So, it's probably gonna be like $11,000 for a sick as fuck DOHC head for the L-series; cheaper if group buys are made. I know of guys that already dump $20,000 in the L series.

That is much, MUCH cheaper than the fuckin' $35,000 OS Giken rough casting with zero machining.

>>13896373
Damn son, might hold out on it for a bit then. Get the other stuff I'd like first and leave that for last

>>13889444
Finally another person whom dislikes modified s30s.

>>13896417
Uhhhh I am that person as well. At least permanent modifications.

>>13896417
why can't I like both?

>>13896464

Yeah I like both as well, but the beef that I have is people taking care that can be preserved and chopping into them, VS ones that are already chopped, and modifying them.

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>>13896470
bingo.

>>13896464
because chopping up a nice car is horrible.

Meanwhile, pic related is tasteful: nothing has to be modified for it to be made (except the rear hatch, but one could purchase an extra hatch or a fiberglass hatch and modify that instead of the stock hatch.

>>13896470
I think I understand what you're saying.. not that you were making it easy

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>>13896531
My bad dude English is my 3rd language. saw this the other day, thought y'all will like it..

>>13898991
don't sweat it, I got what you meant.
And that is one clean roadster, damn

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sweet ABS door panels Skillard on facebook made. Imma have to make some.

Thinking about picking up a d21 so I have transportation. Any one know anything about these? I'm torn between this and a 3rd gen c10
http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/5304044266.html

>>13899889
>http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/5304044266.html
I've seen much worse. If you plan on hauling a lot of shit, go with the C10 If you want something cheap to toodle around in, get the D21. Hell, a wrecking yard should have a new front fender for you.

>>13895242
>>13895271
So he said he'll email me the liscense plate when he gets back from the east bay. Which probably means that there're quite a few back fees that need to be paid and he's looking for someone who won't ask those questions.
On the negative side it looks like it'll have to be almost completely repainted. If I pay for it to be repainted should I just stick with yellow?

>>13899956
Maybe, or maybe he just doesn't know it off the top of his head. It could honestly just be sitting there.
And if it does have back fees, haggle the shit out of him: "You know, I like the car, but it has X dollars in back fees, and it obviously didn't pass smog when you had it, so it's gonna cost X dollars to fix (normally around $250 for a catalytic converter), so I really can't offer more than X dollars". Go hard on this.

>pay for it to be painted
Listen. I'm gonna be frank with you. Not trying to be rude, but to be real.

Regardless of what vehicle you buy, you're gonna have to get new paint on it. Why? Because you're gonna be doing rust repairs, and that means cutting body panels out and welding in new ones. Normally ones that have paint on them.

So, you have two options: one, shop and wait for the perfect vehicle to come up, one that has already been gone through.

Or two, repair the rust and have it painted.

And secondly, why would you pay for someone else to paint it? A decent paint job is expensive as fuck, more than the car is worth. Meanwhile, for only a couple hundred dollars you can apply a tough as nails paint job to it that looks sweet as tits if you just put a little bit of work into it.

Unless you don't have a driveway to park in, paint the damn thing yourself. Let me find the trusted and true copy pasta for you...

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>>13899998
The patent pending Dat L24 'Valspar Enamel G.O.A.T. Paint Job for Non-Plebs ©'

>If you're painting a car in the DIY mindset, what you want is a single stage, oil based enamel paint.

>Like for instance Valspar Tractor and Implement Enamel.

>It's inexpensive, it stands up to UV light so it won't fade (unlike Rustoleum), it's single stage so no worries about pealing clear coat, and it is durable to the point where you can throw rocks at it and buff out the scratches, or even key it and buff it out (in certain instances). And if you need to repair it? Break out the extra paint you have, and go crazy!

>Pic related was painted with the stuff.

>Here is a very in-depth guide on painting with the Valspar enamel, and yearly updates on how it's holding up (after 6 years, it still looks like new according to the OP)

>http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/body/546612-ultimate-budget-paint-job.html

They have gloss black paint, and it looks bitchin'. It's what I'm gonna paint my S30 with.

>>13899998
I assumed that I'd have to paint it, but had a poor choice of phrase I guess. Looks like I'm going to learn to be an amateur painter now.

>>13900024
Painting is easy as fuck. All of the work is in prepping it for the paint. And making a good environment to paint in so that dust and debris doesn't get in the paint as it's drying

>>13900024
>Looks like I'm going to learn to be an amateur painter now.

exciting, ain't it?

It's sort of cool how these Japanese rust buckets teach us so much.

Through out your build, you'll learn:

>Basic Welding
>Metal working
>Painting
>Body work
>Fabricating
>Engine maintenance
>Transmission rebuilding
>Basic electrical
>Suspension design
>Glass replacement

and a shitload of other things.

>>13900012
This makes me want to repaint my turdgen

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>>13900077
do it.
You have an LS in that thing I hope, right? At least the 4.8l?

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>>13900012
I wanna see the outcome from the paint, paint something small for us....

I'm planning on painting mine, might just take up to my cousins shop in BC, maybe take like 3-4 weeks for the whole car. Plus get a vacation.

But at the same time I'm trying to go for as close to OEM, so what ever that's gonna take... Not planning on doing it twice....

Here's chassis #5xx just out of paint.
>>13899998

Almost quints. But yeah this is the issue, because I want to buy ones that need work, and I want to buy ones that are clean too. Running out of space :(

>>13900136
>that paint
hnnnnng

If you're planning on going OEM, then go with OEM colored paint, and have it done in a shop. It will cost you, though.

>>13889724
>Stancekids in Seattle
I have seen 1 slammed volvo 240 in the past 3 years. I have seen 0 cambered or slammed cars other then that.

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>>13901678
Is this the 242? Also I guess I meant Seattle and the greater Seattle area like Kirkland, bellvue, Redmond etc.

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>>13901724
nah I was driving in Ballard with my s13 and I saw it. It was about 2 weeks ago or so

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Does anyone know where to get 10mm linkage for triples? I need link levers and arms.

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Ain't dead.

Got the headlights working, lows only and the car cut off every time I hit the brake until I fixed it. Again.

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I saw this on my way home. This thing is so cool looking. The Z's of this gen are a lot smaller than one would expect though. Owner wants $2200 for it, needs a new fuel pump and some wiring here and there.

Good project/10

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>>13905936

>>13905825
>Ain't dead.
thank God. I was honestly getting a little worried there...

>>13905936
>>13905945
that... actually looks pretty cool. Is it low rust? If it's low rust, and if you don't need to do emission in Nevada, then that would be a good buy at $2,000.

>>13904164
Digging those wheels, im still kind of on the fence about flares but everything else I love

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>>13907914
yeaaaaah the flares kinda kill it... I was a flare fanboy until then 12 year old me realized that you had to cut off metal to put flares on.

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How to convert 280z to 240z bumpers. Will dump aspic recipe. Plz respund

>>13911089
http://www.zcar.com/forum/10-70-83-tech-discussion-forum/122907-240z-front-bumper-280z.html

That's about all I can help ya with there. You're gonna have to google hunt.

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280z newbie here. Previous owner made some shoddy electrical connections. I could just solder these connections together right?

>>13911597
No, use heat shrink crimp connectors. Solder will crack and corrode over time.

>>13911597
You could also buy butt connectors and crimp the shit out of them to mostly the same effect.

>>13911597
>>13911605
Solder+heatshrink. Best of both worlds.

>>13911597
I suggest as anon here suggested >>13911605

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I still am determined to find a use for the plethora of A series engines in junkyards. It's fucking ridiculous how resilient the little bastards are...

>>13913883
Buy clapped out old riding mowers and swap them. EZ go fast mobile.

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>>13913980
I really don't think the stock diff would hold it, but I bet I could grab the vehicles diff...

And I mean, fuck, the combined engine and trans length is only a little bit longer than an L6 block! We've GOT to find a use for these things.

But just as a great example of these engines:

>sat outside for a decade uncovered
>total price: $84 AUD
>cleaned carby spray
>hooked up ghetto electric fuel pump
>starting fluid
>she starts right up

These are like tiny Ford I6 engines when it comes to reliability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoNV4oC2FiQ

>>13913883
if i had enough motivation id build a little gocart from one.

>>13914132
Hang on dont ministocks use A series engines? or whatever the kiddies oval formula is?

>>13914132
Yeah but how much hp do the make, 60? Might be amusing to supercharge.

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>>13914180
that's what I'm hoping I can do in welding class. Maybe something like pic related

>>13914188
I have no idea what ministock is, soooo...

>>13914200
the Datsun A10 did, but the much more prevalent A12 and A15 made 70-85hp.
With light porting and a header, they can make upwards of 100HP.

That's a shit load of power for an engine that weights like 90lbs and can fit in an apple crate.

>>13914188
so THIS is mini-stock: that's actually cool as shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KlVmwh39M

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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I FOUND FOUR H0T WHEELS 240'S AT WALGREENS TONIGHT

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slow day, I guess.

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>>13916969
>talks about AUD
>doesnt know what a ministock is
i pity you.

its a juniour formula for kids, you start at 12 and at 15 you graduate into the youth class of the larger cars, then at 18 into the adult class.

no idea what you linked.

i checked with a co-worker today who's kids are in ministocks, they use datsun 1200's

>>13919691
Also the formula i was thinking of was the now defunct "Juniour A" that used normally aspirated 1l engines from age 10 and up was full of classic minis, not sure what it comprises of now.

>>13919691
sorry, I only know about the AUD due to the fact that I needed to convert it into freedom units.

And as for what you said, then yes, they do use A12 engines.

>>13919773
Ah okay, but yeah strap a load of teenagers into A12 engined stockcars and the result is generally amusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vejKkmPR71c

lots of using the other cunts to brake on corner entry, but give and take. you will get hit too.

>>13919846
>lots of using the other cunts to brake on corner entry
kek, gave me a hearty chuckle.
That looked really fun.

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>find 1981 newspaper
>see this

DATSUN UNLEASHED.

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>>13920026
OLD AD TIIIIIME

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>>13921981
>150 hp

>>13923399
Net SAE and at the crank maybe, maaaaybe.
Now a nice higher compression L28 should have no problem hitting 150hp, even 180hp.

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This got welded up today for someone. maybe a 240? (probably something else, but fun to speculate)

>>13923706
jeez looking at that now its posted all that heat bleed on 1 and 4 is horrendous

>>13923677
Ratings back then were SAE gross BHP, measured with no alternator, fan, A/C, etc.
A freshly rebuilt L24 will put out around 120-125 net BHP.

L26 and L28 advertised power figures are net BHP so they really were making 160/170 BHP, respectively.

>>13923728
derp, I'm an idiot, you're right.
>>13923706
dat looks kewl
>>13923713
I know fuck all about turbo's, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>13923820
>I know fuck all about turbo's, so I have no idea what you're talking about

He was talking about the welds I believe.

>>13923845
Yeah. Specifically, the excessive discoloration on the flange welds for pipes 1 and 4 (from the right).

Heat soak refers to the bluing around the welds.

As you apply more heat in one area the surrounding metal discolours.

a thin band of blue either side of the weld indicates the right amount of heat was used.

if you have a flat surface (like the mounting face of a manifold) and the bluing reaches the edge there is a significant chance of warping.

so the far right weld on the image probably warped the metal at the end

>>13923845
>>13923984
>>13923987
yep, yep, I'm a retard.
Which is even more embarrassing since I'm majoring in welding science....

>>13876283
>Nii-San
Fag

>>13924516
>posting on a Nicaraguan Table Waiters bulletin board
Fag

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Late 70's 510 rally car? Yes please.

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well today was a bust I guess.
Happy thanksgiving y'all, here's an appropriate photo for the occasion.

also '76er, you may want to consider this: a five speed trans from a 280ZX.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/5318671009.html

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I made a thing.

>>13932651
that's golden. I feel like I should engrave that into a metal plate or something...

Happy thanksgiving brah

>>13932651
legit kek saved

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I think we're gonna have to go and have our dog put down tomorrow.... this is gonna suck.

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Ze thread shall now die probably

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Saw this today at hillclimb

>>13941096
>>13941101
That's.... that's this car. Woah. >>13928137

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>>13941109
1981 Datsun sunny is what it's listed as, came 3rd overall against some stiff competition

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Now I'm gonna go pass out because I'm sofucking tired

>>13941134
>rwd '80's shitbox beating out AWD monsters

DATSUN IS TRURY DA BEST BRAND IN DA WORLDU

>>13941833
wat am i looking at?
is this going on the coffee table?

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>>13941918
you are looking at a hydro-dipped valve cover, and it is completely functional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1san5RQHF0

>>13945698
Oh shit i forgot we had these threads, thanks. And by modify I meant its bascially going to be a second car to wrench on and dick around with, so i want to see what crazy/fun/retarded ideas you guys could come up with.

>>13945741
And whatever general upgrades you would reccommend, like the 280zx alternator that l24 mentioned

>>13945753
well RustyZ made this, it's general advice we've all conjured up over the months.

http://pastebin.com/9bqXFgbz

>>13945741
I'd probably go with an RB20DET swap. With a new oil pan made from a guy on HybridZ (it's about $250 for it, and they're really nice), they bolt right in, even the stock driveshaft connects. You only need three extra wires I believe. It's about $1,250 all said and done. They make lots of power, and parts are inexpensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKg27CBUdkM

>>13945821
Is the stock efi really so bad? It seems like itd run better with it. Is it just shit because of the age?

>>13947134
yeah, shit because of the age.
If you want you *can* replace all the old injectors, vacuum lines, etc, and clean aaaaaaaall the contacts on the ECU and related wiring, and it will run fine. But that takes a lot of money and a lot of time.

>>13879952
I went ahead and bought it, and it's a lovely car. Over half a million kilometers on the clock, and most of the electrics work and the engine runs like new.

But there's a problem with the tachometer, since it only works at above 3500 rpm or so. Any ideas what would cause this?

Also, it appears that this car was never produced with a limited-slip diff, but are there any bolt-on LSD diffs? I couldn't find any info in the car about the rear end/axle model though. How can I identify it?

>>13947932
to be honest mate I don't know how to help you there, since I don't know how much from the S series of vehicles interchanges.

But I can say that Nissan made a big effort to have as many parts as possible be interchangeable, to save costs. So there's a good chance the 300ZX Shiro LSD might fit, or the 200SX turbo R200 LSD might fit. Gonna have to do your research, though.

>>13948052
Well, it has a solid rear axle, but there was no drivetrain info on the VIN/info plate on the firewall, and there are no markings on the differential casing or axle.

>>13949613
>Remove diff carrier
>Measure ring ID
>Find LSD/torsen carrier that will fit ring
>Swap over necessary parts
>Install
You now have an LSD.

>>13949721
You make it sound simple, but I don't know a whole lot about differentials, even though I disassembled a wrecked diff once.

Will I need to shim the diff or adjust any clearances then? Everybody has horror stories to tell about diff rebuilds gone wrong, with the gears always whining afterwards.

>>13949900
Probably, but as for as going from non-LSD to LSD, all you need is the carrier (the bit that holds the spider gears/clutch packs). I can't say how much info you'll find about the Cedric but somebody somewhere must know something and in your journey for information, you'll learn a lot about your car that you never even thought you should know.

Did some digging for the hell of it. The Y30 got Nissan's H190 rear axle like literally everything else so basically any rear end part from any old Nissan with a solid rear end will swap over.
If you can find an LSD for an old Hardbody, for example, it should bolt right in.
However, different applications got different spline counts an the axles so to avoid any headaches, I'd get corresponding axles to go along with whatever diff carrier you find.

>>13950212
Thanks for the info, anon. I have a Nissan Vanette Cargo limited-slip diff + solid rear axle lying around, but the axle itself has leaf springs and drum brakes unlike the Y30 which has coil springs and disc brakes. I'll have to try and see if I can install the Vanette diff into the Y30.

>>13950326
Good luck, Anon, and take your time.

>>13950326
if the diff has the same axle spline count, you should be able to swap it right in.

>>13947169
What carb setup would be better? Im willing to invest the time for triple weber carbs, but i also think doing a 4 barrel would be cool, from what ive read though using a 4 barrel carb is too much for a 2.8l engine but i would prefer the simplicity of maintaining it. What do you reccomend?

>>13952001
well, triple webers are quite expensive and can be a pain in the ass to tune.

And as for the four barrel, it really comes down to what carb you use.

If you use the Holly 360cfm carb, you should be good to go. Quite reliable as well (just make sure to use the Arizona Z Car intake, and not the Carter: the AZC intake performs much better in the low end, and you wnt that for the street.

But if I had the choice, and I had the money for triple webers, I would actually go for a bolt on 4 barrel EFI setup like the MSD Atomic EFI or Holly Terminator EFI. The next gens of each setup are coming out soon, so they're gonna be having some fire sales on the current gen stuff. If you use the Arizona Z car intake, shit would be so cash.

Now, nobody has done this to a Z yet, but I see no reason as to why it couldn't work, since the systems can work on something as small as a 1.0l engine.

I'd expect a drastic improvement in idle, cold starting abilities, fuel efficiency, and overall reliability. You'd also be able to run E85 without much trouble (well, with fuel system upgrades like new fuel lines and E85 capable fuel pump)

>>13952001
Sidedrafts > downdraft, always. They're not that hard to synchronize if you actually take the time to learn and get the proper tools.
If you want Webers, get OERs. Exactly the same with a couple modifications for ease of adjustment.

>>13952154
I can probably manage to get the amount id need for the triple, but i had never thought about actually using a newer efi system, I will try to do that if i can. I think it would be great. Thanks for all the help guys, once i get the car ill be sure to come back with pics of it before/while im wrenching on it.

>>13947169
That's like saying building a custom PC takes too long. Cleaning an EFI system is ez with knowledge and you only spend like $50-100 refurbishing it then you have a more reliable system than non-rebuilt carbs.

>>13947932
welp, just noticed that the front brake discs are shot. they're special ones too, only used on the Y30, available only from Nissan at $450 a piece.

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>>13876283
>76er
kek they suck ass

>>13953852
the rotors are shot? And only from Nissan? Haberdash. Let me do some googling, gimme the nissan part number.

>>13953878
if I'm correct, this is the right part number. apparently the wheel bearing + brake disc is delivered as a unit.

hub assembly, road wheel front RH
40207-V5050
40207-V5070

>>13953940
alright Imma do some research.

>>13953940
wow, this is nuts. The cheapest I found them for was $270 USD for each one.

You might want to find a Y30 forum or something and ask them.

for anyone wanting power steering...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY5MSQ5oOSE

>>13958338
Can it be flipped for lhd?

>>13959088
Just get a LHD steering rack?

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my 260z spun a rod bearing last week. been saving for a rebuild anyways, im just quite a bit away from that point. Feels bad man.

Finnegan bringing the Datsun love to hot rod magazine as usual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGux0Vqofzs

sorry I didn't bump last night, I won't be on for much longer: our house caught fire last night, so we aren't there right now. There's no electricity and I don't own a cellphone, so my updates and bumps will be sporadic for awhile.

>>13960101
good to see you back. You trade the 260 for that Volvo?

>>13959500
see if you can find a runner engine on craigslist for cheap, and swap it into the car for now so you can still drive it. Don't let it become a never finished project (plus seals/liquids go bad with no use)

>>13959500
time for an RB25DE(T) swap, mate

>>13961216
My transmission started leaking too. I've been looking on Craigslist for a while now not very many in my area besides http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/pts/5302349908.html but Im just afraid of getting another engine and having 2 broken engines. Mine still fires right up it hasn't locked but I keep it to a bare minimum like when I back it out to work on it a bit then back into the garage

>>13961750
L-series engines are very sturdy, and they are almost always yanked from cars not due to malfunctions, but due to engine swaps. So for $250, that engine should be solid, and if not, it's only $250.

>>13960101
We've missed you, ya sexy beast

>>13961859
what about buying a pre rebuilt one like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-240Z-260Z-280Z-Rebuilt-L28-Motor-Engine-N42-Block-with-N42-Head-2-8L/111803623625?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Ddfed143dffa14179a55a82d623b05495%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121817438914 or is that just spending more money than rebuilding mine with the cost of the second. shipping and installation. ive been told around 3500 for mine to be rebuilt by z specialists.

>>13964410
wow that url is terrible im sorry

Hey niggers, I might manage to get my own fucking L28ET.

How does this sound?
-GT30
-MS2 3.57 w/2 Step, launch control, and flatshift
-HKS Super Sequential BOV
-Z32 TT Trans (Then save up for dogbox)
-100 Shot Nitrous with purge
-ZG Flares and 15x12 RS Watanabe's (or 14x8 and no fender flares)

Anyone know where to get a 1600 in Alberta, Canada? I had the chance to buy a '72 2 door for $500 but owner (distant cousin) found out what it's actually worth and got an offer of $2k.. Help me I love these cars!

>>13964410
WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S EXPENSIVE
Dude, you could buy a simple bearing/seal/pistons n' rings kit, and with a trip to the machine shop for it to be decked and honed, and you'd be good to go for the bottom end.

And for the top end, a quick cleaning, new or at least straightened valves, a valve seat lapping, and new springs and you should be good to go as well.

All said and done, that should only be like $500-$700 including tools and machining. That's a huge saving, plus you'll learn.

You'll want the "How to Rebuld Your L-Series" book.

>>13960101
Where have you been transgirl?

>>13960101
Hey there man toes.

>>13968422
>>13968684
Why yall so r00d.
>>13961216
No, but it is still for sale if I get a decent offer.

>>13968699
Y u gonna sell it tho? R u a poorfag or something? Anyway I would buy it for the right price. I'm gonna throw out a number, and if you don't like it, give me a number; $2000

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proper equipment for any s30

>>13968744
>2000
I take you haven't seen the car.

>>13968931
gib

>>13968931
From where and for how much?
Also what size?
Also gib.

>>13969466
No, but I have seen dem feet tho
8=======================D
>tfw qt trans gf to work on cars with

>>13968931
gibbe prease

>>13968744
you'd have to offer around $5,000 for a real response from her. Her car's worth about that.

>>13969639
I got them from Japan for about $350. They were kinda dirty so I cleaned them up and rebuilt them. You can check yahoo auctions for them.. sometimes there's good deals. These are the 40mm, I only have a L24 so 40 is a good size.

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got my 280z in primer.

>>13971106
Nice! what color you going for? I'm painting my car 905 red soon

Would anyone be able to tell me if this is a worthwhile purchase?


http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5329414330.html

>>13973602
>http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5329414330.html
well it's a 22 automatic with 200,000 on it, but it IS really clean... If I were you, I'd shoot for $2,500, and the highest I'd even consider going is $3,000.

With another $1,000, you should be able to install a manual trans (assuming your labor), and some new goodies like brakes and tires if necessary.

But otherwise, if it has a clean title, go for it.

Okay, thank you, is this a better option however?
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/5302413115.html

>>13973602
I'd give him 3k cash at the very most.

>>13974120
Same deal. More info from both would be nice.

>>13970938
So how did you get them to ship internationally? Every carb setup I can find says Japan only.

>>13974120
>Tags: 240 sx Nissan Honda drift project clean 350z Miata JDM
nope the fuck out of that. It's also an auto.

Unless it's under 110, I'd say stay away from paying under $3,000 (unless it's original owner, super nice, maintained, etc

>>13975344
You have to use a shipping site that doesn't have a lot of regulation about what they will take. A lot of sites are cracking down on auto parts, but noppin was what I used.

>>13977437
Good to know, thanks.