I bought a tercel, went to register it and the previous mileage

It's a tercel? It will last forever unless you didnt do a proper road test

>>13866778
It runs nice but fucking hell guy fucked me 70k miles.

>>13866773
What does the OD say?

>>13866782
its a cheap car anyway. its not like its even worth $1000 either way dude.

>>13866784
130,000 miles

>>13866795
Then he fucked with the OD. File a police report.

Are you in the USA? Did the previous owner sign the title and/or bill of sale saying it had 130,000 miles on it?

If so file a police report because that's a felony.

Doesn't the title say the amount of miles on it?

>>13866803
>Are you in the USA? Did the previous owner sign the title and/or bill of sale saying it had 130,000 miles on it?
>If so file a police report because that's a felony.
Yeah, I told him to give me a partial refund. Guy stopped responding. Im just gonna file a police report.

>>13866816
said exempt.

>>13866839
Ahaha what kind of backassward state do you live in that the previous owner doesn't have to sign the odometer statement?

If he didn't sign the odometer statement portion of the title with the amount of miles you're fucked.

GG

>>13866886
If it's an older car it can be exempt from recording the odometer

>>13866773
Anon how did you even end up in this situation?

Did you blind buy this without physically checking it out?

I think the most important question is: How much did you pay for it OP?

>not asking for the vin

bro we have a vin thread for a reason, you fucked up

It's common for the cluster to go bad on these so likely it was swapped out for another cluster at some point and the guy didn't know?

>>13867618
Don't the odometer numbers on record show what they were when it was ladlst transferred? That would mean the seller bought it at high miles

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nigga you fucked up

>>13867818
The thing that shows the mileage is part of the gauge cluster. If you replace the whole cluster it shows the mileage from the car it was pulled out of.

We don't know who swapped the cluster, could have been before the seller got the car.

Still, OP should have run a VIN report on it before buying it. That would show the reported mileage. VINbro even does it for free.

>>13866773
File a report you beta faggot

>>13866817
Tell him you want a partial refund or else you're filing a police report.

Don't just straight up get the police involved right away, try to talk to him. But I guess you said he's ignoring you so yeah fuck him then.

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seriously guys, it's a fucking tercel. i can understand why OP is upset, but it's gonna take way too much efforts to bring that guy to justice for a car that's probably worth at most $1500. As long as the chassis/engine is good, just live with it.

>>13866773

What you do OP, to get over your engine woes, is to import a 4E-FTE, engine loom and ECU out of a Starlet GT and drop that nigga in.

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>>13869476
WHile that combo does just bolt right in, the problem is, depending on the state, it may not meet emissions standards.
I know in California, any car 1976 or newer HAS to pass emissions

>>13869543

Yeah, I was only partly serious.

But goddamn, that lump looks so at home in the pic. I do wonder how the TMIC performs if the bonnet doesn't have a vent however.

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>>13869597
Of course it looks at home. I wasn't kidding when I said it bolts right in. The Tercel was just a Starlet coupe/sedan

>>13866773
>bought
>tercel
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU FUCKED UP SON!

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>>13869613

Yeah, I know.

I wonder how many (if any) common parts they share.

I mean, the doors look pretty similar, barring visual differences like the plastic moulding.

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>>13869651
mechanically, it's identical.
visually, there isn't much interchangeable. front end swaps have been done, but it's a lot of work, and nothing lines up quite right.

>>13869543
>California car HAS to pass emissions
Depending on which county you live in, that can be every two years, or only when you transfer the title. If you live in 420bongistan like me you only have to smog it once when the title is transferred and then do whatever the hell you want to it. If you transfer it to an immediate family member (wife/child/sibling/parent/grandparent) you don't even have to re-smog it.

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>>13869717

>>13869616
> Buying a cheap reliable car that's good on gas
Totally a bad idea man. Should have gotten an expensive and unreliable car with a big gas guzzling engine. Nothing like spending half your paycheck on gas and car payments and then loosing your job because it breaks down and you can't get to work.

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>>13869687
> mechanically, it's identical.
Does that hold true with the Paseo too? I've always kind dug how they looked, but figured it'd be slow and boring as fuck to drive. My understanding is the Paseo was a Tercel made to look sportier. If I could easily swap one, that'd make a cool sleeper for commuting.

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>>13869790
I'm particularly interested in the second gens. The ass looks better. Though even a first gen would be cool.

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>>13869790
holds true for the Paseo as well. You're right. The Paseo was just a sportier Tercel.

>>13867603
lol its tercel tho

Oh boy a terseo thread.


4EFTE swap which is 130hp to the crank will cost you $3000 all said and done if you do the work yourself. 5EFE comes with 100hp to the crank stock.

4th gen Tercel's 3E-E engine is an enormous piece of shit.

Paseos have another sway bar, stiffer chassis by design/welding, and slightly larger brake rotors.

Paseos, Starlets, Tercels, and Seras share many mechanical parts but many chassis components won't swap over. Transmission swapping may involve drilling mounting holes in the housing.

The two big ticket items Terseo owners yoink off the Starlet GT is the 4EFTE motor and the rear axle because it has ~discu bureiku~

The only thing the cars really bring to the table is the 2000lb curb weight and they don't perform any better than your run of the mill Yaris or Echo.

>>13869830
It helps to check out the history of the car before even buying it. I went to look at a geo this weekend and the state of the car would've made you believe it was over 200k on the odo but the cluster said 91k. I'm almost positive he swapped the cluster and tried to pass it off as low mileage

>>13869815
Are you selling your ion right now? Saw an ad that looked like you.

>>13869815
>>13869795
>>13869790

And what's more, the Paseo has a 5E-FE, esentially a 1.5 litre version of the 1.3 4E. You can basically slap the turbo stuff off a 4E-FTE onto the 5E. Or just go straight for the normal 'aftermarket' turbos, like using td04s etc.

>>13869887
No you can't. You will throw a rod turboing a stock 5EFE.

You will melt the 4th cylinder piston using the 4EFTE turbo manifold.

The 4EFTE has a completely different compression ratio and was made for turbocharging. Even the 5EFHE a japan only more robust version of the 5EFE is very sketchy without proper EMU.

>>13869880
yes

>>13869838
>4EFTE swap which is 130hp to the crank will cost you $3000 all said and done if you do the work yourself. 5EFE comes with 100hp to the crank stock.
>whats best way to flush money down toilet?
ROFLMAO@TOYOTA FAGS

>>13869770
>cheap reliable car that's good on gas
OH GOD IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GUYS TELL YOURSELVES?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it's a chincy dangerous incompetent overpriced shitbox, any benefits you think it has exist only in your mind!!

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I wonder if I could shoehorn a 3S-GTE into one of these.

>>13870014
Okay then smart guy, you tell is what's
> cheap
> reliable
> good on gas
> not a "dangerous shitbox"

>>13870034
Oh I know, the oldest cost-cut toyota with the thinnest cheapest corroded sheet metal and the worst crash perfromance around, does that sound about right?? I mean, all other cars arent Toyotas so they're obviously worse. Is that how it works guys?

>>13870000

Grats on 13,870,000 get.

That's the exact reason I kept mine N/A and enjoyed it for the lightweight shitbox it was.

Toyota fanboys may jump in and say "uhh buh I found this engine/trans/ecu combo for X price" but that doesn't factor in the electronics, timing kit, and other components you'll need to replace when doing the swap. The actual real world cost of doing a reliable 4EFTE swap to your Tercel/Paseo is $2500 - $3000.

The only rational reasoning behind the 4EFTE swap I've seen is that you're getting about as much horsepower as a B13 Sentra SE-R or a Dodge Neon R/T but with about 500 lbs weight savings.

That said you could just swap an EG/EF/EK Civic for much cheaper and more reliably and achieve the same result.

>>13870015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ1c0gYxbEk

Why go turbo when the BEAMS exists? A 3SGE is even stretching it because you're putting a shit ton of weight on the front end of the car. It's already something like 64/36 F/R weight bias.

>>13870045
> Not answering the question.
I'll concede you're right and the Tercel & Paseo are dangerous.

Now give us some examples of cars that meet the criteria: cheap, reliable, good on gas, not dangerous.

>>13870104
>doing what anon says to educate him
no thanks. toyota is best, we're done here lol

>>13870069
Yeah, I kinda figured the engines would be too big for the cars. I do like the BEAMS. I'd prefer to swap my MR2 with BEAMS over the turbo anyways.