What does /o/ think of the Pontiac Solstice? >RWD >Manual

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>>13848495
Yes
and
Yes

The car won the D1 Grand Prix, can't remember the year though. 2007 or 2008.

>>13848495
The GM meme prevents any meaningful discussion of it.

>pretty car
>It's Saturn sister, the Sky has an improved drivetrain when bought with the Redline trim level.

>>13848508
That's Formula Drift, not D1GP. American """"""""""drifters"""""""""" are 100% more cantturm than Japanese dorifuto kinguzu

>>13848495
SATURN SKY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SHITSTACE

its an okay car

typical GM build quality

get a Z3/Z4 instead

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>>13848495
Alright /o/. Let's settle this once and for all. Which one looks better?

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>>13848515
>cantturn

>>13848520
>get an s2000/miata instead


ftfy

>>13848525
saturn

Buy one now, garage it for 10 years, resell for 20x profit

>>13848525
They both look nice and I'd like either. The Sky looks more modern, but the Solstice isn't lolangry. Think I'd choose the Sky

>>13848529
S2000s are more expensive than Z3's and Z4's.

both bmw's are faster than the miat

>>13848525
That 4Runner in the back lot.

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>>13848525
The Sky

>>13848520
>buy this inferior product that's slower than a FWD Saturn, nevermind the RWD Saturn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NytwmMfmHJk

>>13848529
Get this inferior product that's slower cuz muh Japanese brands are alwayz better

>>13848564
?????

OP says the solistce has 173hp

>Z3 2.8 -~190hp
>Z3 2.5 -~180hp
>Faclift Z3's and all the Z4's had from 190 to 220hp

C'mon, you know i wasn't talking about the 1.9 4 cylinder z3, that's the only model that's got less hp than that

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>>13848564
>s2000
>inferior

KEK

Pretty sure it has the lnf engine like my cobalt ss should be around 260 hp&tq

>GM couldn't even choose a transmission that didn't drop you out of the power band
GM, everybody

>>13848495
It's just like a Miata, only shit!

>>13848613
but that would have required effort on GM's part, when they could just continue building a parts-bin car

>>13848582
While the Saturn Ion Reline had 205 HP, and the Sky Redline/Solstice GXP had a 260 HP 2.0L Turbo, 290 HP with a GM offered optional tune.

>>13848629
not what the Japanese said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6nV12oMIm4

>>13848517
this is 200% true

>>13848525
exterior pontiac
interior saturn

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>>13848495
>3000 lbs

>>13848887
Shit that's pretty light.

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>>13848902
>3000 lbs
>Light

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>>13848887
>>13848902
>>13848912
>Solstice
>3,000 lbs
wut

>>13848912
>I just woke up from a 20 year coma.

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>>13848930
>driving cars that weigh more than 2500 lbs
>expecting to beat takumi

>>13848926
lol you thought that would disprove 3000lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqh7yAWpOWI

>american engineering

>>13848948
You thought that was complicated? LOL

>>13848955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixB-tW1yKvo

>>13848495
It has the same engine as a cobalt/ion/hhr and a transmission from a truck

>>13848967
O I see, your just lazy.

>>13848967
That's actually really simple. The guy making the video is also a tard. All the Kappa cars came with a key fob with a button to pop the trunk open to make putting the top up or down easier. No need to climb to the glovebox for it.

>>13848967
LMAO look at all that adjusting. I literally just have to plop my miata's top down. Miata is confirmed better than s2000 AND solstice!

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>GM engineering

>>13848495
So do all kappas have LSDs or just the red line/GXP models?

>>13849039
I thought they were Opels.

>>13849339
Opel's been a part of GM since the 1920's. Also, all design of the Kappa cars was done in America. There were also built in America.

>But there's this one Opel version so they're all Opels, right?!
doesn't work that way. The Kappa cars were done by American GM the entire way.

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>>13848525
neither

I like the coupes

>>13848711
this to be honest family.

>>13848955
>>13849008
I'm all for manual tops. They're lighter and it's less shit to go wrong on the car. However the Kappa design is objectively bad. Any convertible top that you have to exit the car the put up and down is a bad design. I shouldn't have to make a dedicated stop and exit the car if I decide it's too chilly/noisy/rainy for top down driving and if I'm sitting at a stoplight and the sun comes out I should be able to just unhook the latches, throw the top over my shoulder, and go rather than having to get out of the fucking car open the trunk, fold the top in, and then close the trunk. I see why they wanted to do it, but they fucked it up.

>>13849391
You know that car is entirely unrelated to the Kappa-based Opel GT, right?

>>13849492
nope, but i do remember an opel version existing.

They never released a holden one though, an old friend has a Vauxhall badged one in black, kinda cool, quite blocky which was uncommon in its day.

>>13849039
what's under the bump?

>>13849539
you're thinking of the opel speedster, based on the lotus europa
opel gt is a different thing

>>13849556
*unzips bump*

>>13849577
*sees factory loaded dildos*

>>13848495
This is like the 6th time someone asks about the Solstice this month... Don't you understand that it's a ugly POS ?

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I own the sister car
AMA

>>13849338
Almost positive that the GXP/Redline come with it standard. I know for sure it was a option on the base model. Check the RPO code list in the glove box for G80. That is the code for LSD.

>>13849556
Fuel tank

>>13850641
how well does it do when you go to the store and have to take stuff home? cargo space basically

>>13850798
kek
look here >>13849039

How well do you think it does. If you aren't a fat piece of shit and don't need to buy half the store its fine. If you are the size of an average American though you won't be able to fit all the groceries in the trunk, but also you wouldn't be able to fit your fatass in the driver seat either. Basically what I'm saying is I knew the size of the truck when I bought the car, and I have never had a problem with it. If the size storage space is gona determine if you buy a sports car or not, then you need to leave.

>>13850839
can I at least fit a 12 pack of cans with the top down, thats really all I ever buy

>>13850845
Yes, the passenger seat. It's not like there's going to be anyone sitting there.

>tfw the cheapest Opel GT is a 2.0 tarbo for 11k
>tfw the only Solstice is a "first 1000" (pretty sure it's not a GXP) for 16k

>>13850951
Don't get a a first 1000 or any 06 model for that matter. There was quite a few things changed and/or updated for the 07 model year. The first ones had a couple of known problems. Also no turbo model offered in 06.

>>13851002
And there's Opel Speedsters under 9k here, too, which is basically a Lotus with a bodykit.

>>13851019
Yeah, I wish we got the Speedster/VX220 over here.

>>13850902
10/10

>>13850641
Is the gearing as bad as everyone says?
Is it biased towards understeer or is it fairly easy to get the tail end to slide?

>>13848520
>typical GM build quality
>get a Z3/Z4 instead

Listen to this guy. Forget the Solstice/Skyy with the reliable drivetrain. Buy the BMW with the self detonating cooling system. At least you know with the BMW your doors will sound smooth as butter when you close them.

>>13851086
The gearing is fine with me. I just wish 5th was little taller. The real problem with the transmission is it isn't really smooth. They sourced the 5 speed trans from the Chevy Colorado and you can tell.

All production cars are biased toward understeer. You won't notice it on the street though. I can swing the end out (mainly with power over but also lift off) pretty easily, but I'm sure it would be harder to do with the base model. You will notice the understeer on the autocross coarse though. The car will plow right through those really tight corners. But there are sway bar upgrades and frame bracing to make the handling better than it already is.

>>13851242
Do things break often? And when they do do you fix them yourself? Does the engine bay make it easy to do stuff like timing belt replacements?

>>13849570
>based on the lotus europa
*Lotus Elise

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>>13851343
The Ecotec engines have no timing belt. They have a timing chain that doesn't need changing for 300,000 miles minimum.
Engine bay is pretty easy to get to shit. This is a non-turbo Solstice's bay

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>>13851343
The Ecotec engines are very reliable. I have had to replace a couple of thing though. I do all the work on the car, and engine bay ease of access was one of the things I was looking for when I was deciding on my next car. The front facing hood makes it easy to access the engine from either side. Also the Ecotec engines have a "lifetime" timing chain.

>>13851415
I love how the headlights pivot with the hood

>>13848926
with fluids and a fat faggot in it
thats well over 3000

>>13851417
Kappa, I love your wooden step ramps, gonna plan to make some for myself now

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>>13848564
Redline!!!!!

>>13851663
Thanks, regular store bought ramps would scrap the front bumper and I dont want to use a jack and jackstands very often because they just pokes holes in the asphalt that is in serious need of repaving. Here is a link.

http://mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/mwramps/

>>13851608

do you work for FEMA? bc that is some serious damage control m8

>>13851417
Christ, that soft top ruins the look of the car.

>>13852695
Thankfully it's removable