http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/21/growing-list-post-election-hate-crimes-turn-out-to-be-hoaxes.html
>Since the election victory of Donald Trump, numerous stories have surfaced about hate crimes allegedly tied to supporters of the businessman or to his rhetoric, some true and many not.
>Although the Southern Poverty Law Center reports that there have been hate crimes since the election, a number of the incidents have been disproven or shown to be hoaxes or ill-timed jokes. Here are some noteworthy ones.
>A Muslim teenager from Long Island by the name of Yasmin Seweid told authorities that she was harassed on the subway by men who yelled "Donald Trump!" while trying to remove her hijab. The police said within two weeks that she admitted she was lying because she broke her curfew; she now faces charges of filing and false report.
>A Muslim woman in Louisiana claimed that she was attacked and had her hijab ripped off. The Lafayette Police Department said that she "admitted that she fabricated the story about her physical attack as well as the removal of her hijab and wallet by two white males."
>A Mississippi man arrested and charged with first degree arson in the burning of an African-American church that was spray-painted with the words "Vote Trump" is a member of the congregation, the church's bishop said.
With the rapid obsession over "fake news" stories, why has the mainstream media refused to report on the absolute spate of fake hate crimes, usually intended to smear Trump supporters?
In fact, you can see a collection of false flag hate crimes here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5km8pm/list_of_confirmed_hate_hoaxes_is_growing_big/
>>95362
>unironically posting le slaphead safety pin man reaction image on a text board
state of you
>>95360
>A Muslim teenager from Long Island by the name of Yasmin Seweid told authorities that she was harassed on the subway by men who yelled "Donald Trump!" while trying to remove her hijab.
Not a "false flag operation". Just some dumb bitch being a bad Muslim by drinking and making shit up to cover it up.
There was no ant-Trump bullshit going on here.
>>95363
Take your racebait conspiracies back to ribbit, junior. This is a big boy site.
>>95364
Yes there is, the media covers these cases as if they are fact, they cite them in "concerns" over hate crimes and rises in "bigotry" emboldened by Trump's victory
it's pure bullshit yellow journalism by millennial-pandering media outlets that get linked on this board every day, The Independent, Salon, Huffington Post, Mother Jones, Vox being prime examples but there are many, many others
Meanwhile, why don't the actual hate crimes we have physical evidence, including video proof of, get news coverage in these media outlets, e.g. the Trump supporter beaten by a gang of niggers and taken from his car when they learnt who he voted for?
Many more examples listed here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5djew4/updated_list_of_politically_motivated_leftist/
>>95366
You have to be 18 to post here you greasy faced teenager. Why aren't you out with your fellow middle schoolers protesting against Drumpf?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC8CqW9e9CA
>>95367
According to whom? Sorry but I'll believe the 60 year old civil rights organization before I'll believe the scooby doo conspiracy theorists on reddit.
>>95370
>60 year old civil rights organization
kek, I bet you get your opinions from the two dykes in the basement who write for snopes and rationalwiki too
>>95369
>he thinks I'm pro "drumpf"
It's like you think you're on /pol/ or something. Why don't you go back there since you only see things through a partisan lens. This board is about news and current events. Fox News covered pizzagate too but that didn't make it a legit news story.
>>95371
I'd bet you've never traveled far outside your carefully landscaped suburb, cosmo/pol/itan.
>>95372
>fox news, or as I like to call it faux news!
wow you look like you have it all figured out tarquin
>>95376
>you look like you have it all figured out
no that's OP with his reddit tier tinfoilfaggotry
>>95374
hey, if only I lived in my safe, gated white community I could afford to be a lolberal too
>>95377
>tinfoilfaggotry
>literally linking to proven false flag hoaxes
ok, the only tinfoilfaggotry during this election has been leftwingtards blaming the exposure of their election rigging on the evil russians
>>95376
C'mon man, there's left leaning news coverage and right leaning news coverage
Posting a politically charged story with coverage from only sympathetic sources is sloppy and hardly conducive to reasonable discussion
>>95379
>proven false flag hoaxes
It's like you have never heard of confirmation bias or something
>>95380
It's not sloppy, leftwingtards simply refuse to report on it, whereas they have been quick to cover other fake news stories this election cycle. It's nice to have some balance on this board for once
>>95364
Please post a source when making a claim like that.
>>95378
Ohh shit, a decent attack against liberals. Wow.
>>95386
>DNAinfo
kek, it wasn't a fake hate crime spurred on by the anti-Trump media frenzy and circus and reporting of dozens of other uncorroborated hate crimes, it was because she had a falling out at home!
Fake news indeed
>>95396
? NYT are sourcing DNAinfo for the motivation behind her false flag hoax you dumb fucking gimp
>>95398
Do you even know what DNAinfo is? Here you go, let me spoonfeed you, you kneejerking partisan baby:
http://www.niemanlab.org/encyclo/dnainfo/http://www.niemanlab.org/encyclo/dnainfo/
>The site was founded in November 2009 by Ameritrade founder Joe Ricketts, who also provides its funding. The original New York site had an editorial staff of about 45 in March 2013 and it includes both neighborhood-level sites and broader coverage. It has hired a number of high-profile reporters, including contributing editor Sree Sreenivasan, dean of student affairs at Columbia Journalism School, and Murray Weiss, a long-time investigative reporter for the New York Post.
>The site has grown considerably since launch: While estimates pegged site traffic at less than 35,000 visitors in April 2010, it averaged 1.5 million uniques in February 2011. It also has developed a sales and marketing staff of about 10 people to monetize that growth, as Ricketts intends the site to be profitable. It launched a Chicago edition in November 2012, with a staff of about 30 in March 2013.
>Both sites include features, breaking news, public affairs reporting, and community news, though there is little in-depth investigative reporting or reporting on large businesses.
>Ricketts, a political conservative, launched a political action committee in 2012 through which he reportedly planned to target President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign. But he said in a memo to DNAinfo staff that his politics should have “absolutely no impact on your work as objective, fair-minded journalists.”
>>95399
>Do you even know what DNAinfo is?
Yes, it's a crappy news website used by NYT to source their article which made a baseless, unprovable claim that she was motivated by personal issues in her false flag hoax attack and not the aforementioned issues mentioned in >>95394, which also drove the dozens of other false flag hoax claims, because NYT didn't want to concede that it was part of that anti-Trump media frenzy that inspired fear in hundreds of millions of Americans that Drumpf was going to take away their fag rights to marry or deport millions of Muslims
>>95403
>kneejerking partisan baby
I think anon has provided the best assessment of you.
>ITT: "I'll believe a bunch of people I don't know on their word, even if there are no witnesses and their story is later disproved by authorities, because REEEEEEEEEEEEE TRUMP RACISM COGNITIVE DISSONANCE"
>>95410
Please op, let your shitty thread die with dignity, if you want to bait retards go to /pol/
so where's the evidence they're necessarily left-wing false-flags?
>be racist and Trump supporter
>spray-paint home with racist graffiti "nigger lover"
>complain to police
>story on national news
>next week, "LOL JK"
>story on national news
>"those lying commies!"
>people ignore actual hate crimes
>"BREAKING NEWS! WHITE GUY SPRAYPAINTS OWN HOME! ALL HATE CRIMES DEBUNKED FOREVER! local scientist: 'racism has been proven physically impossible'"
>>95360
>/le_donald/
Don't you have homework to do, Timmy?
does this actually shock anyone? If you've ever known a genuine, hardcore liberal you can tell they are mentally ill with 5 seconds
So are there any examples of flash hate crimes than those two posted in the article? Also I find it very ironic that during the election, many Trump supporters violently attacked Burnie supporters, which Trump encouraged, and even offered to pay the legal fees of the attackers. Now that the other half of the nation is fighting back, they play the victim, it's like poetry
>>95428
>so where's the evidence they're necessarily left-wing false-flags?
The fact that they all occured after the election, and were all blamed on Trump supporters.
The timing and method in which they were presented is evidence.
The sheer unwillingness of the news outlets to verify and research the stories in lieu of using them for their own gain is evidence.
The eagerness of people, especially Hillary supporters and left pundits, to use them as political ammunition is evidence.
Their continued use as such even after they've been debunked as "fake news" is evidence.
Many of you pitch a royal shitfit anytime someone posts something even vaguely resembling "fake news", but when it's pointed out how major news networks are continuing to hold their title as "world heavyweight fake news" champions by disseminating fake bullshit like this, the thread turns into an argument over the validity of a single source and eventually abandons the original topic and theme all together- an effort driven mostly by the same collection of center-left /pol/- equivalents irritated that they have to take a break from spreading their MSM clickbait shit.
This board is going to die a slow, boring death.
>>95595
Please don't leave us yet, you seem helpful
>>95595
>all
except the second of the three posted in the op, that one had nothing to do with trump at all
however I can see that you are a slave to your own confirmation bias
>>95595
You seem to not understand what fake news is. You claim as though the report of a report is fake.
It's probably worth making a distinction between individuals falsifying evidence and media outlets doing so.
Rush Limbaugh claiming that news of a Russian hack is a democratic hoax is a whole 'nother ballgame than someone claiming to have their hijab torn off, that getting reported, and then the claimant later admitting to falsifying evidence.
If CNN reports "a man allegedly assaulted a muslim woman by pulling her headscarf according to police reports; this incident follows a pattern of similar attacks against minorities following the election", that's not fake news even if X later redacts the claim as long as the news outlet in good faith later reports X's story was false.
let's look at how it was reported by the MSM:
>A Muslim student at San Jose University told cops she was attacked from behind in a parking garage at San Jose State University. A man ran up and pulled at her hijab, choking her, university police said.
>And also in California, at San Diego State University, another Muslim student reported being followed by two men who made comments about Trump and the Muslims before robbing her, according to the police report.
>University police say the suspects confronted the woman, stole her purse and car keys before fleeing the scene. They came back for her car while she was off searching for help.
>A third report turned out to be false. A Muslim student at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette claimed two men attacked her Wednesday morning, including one who wore a white "TRUMP" hat while they hit her with a metal object and shouted obscenities as she fell to the ground.
>"She made the entire story up," Lafayette Police spokesman Officer Karl Ratcliff told NBC News. "More than likely she will be charged with filing a false police report."
that's from NBC
but maybe CNN:
>Michigan police: Hijab incident didn't happen; charges possible
>>95626
to continue this, perhaps CNN's original report did constitute fake news. Let's see:
>Police in Ann Arbor, Michigan, were investigating reports a man approached a Muslim student and threatened to set her on fire with a lighter unless she removed her hijab.
>The suspect is described as 20 to 30, unkempt and intoxicated, according to the University of Michigan.
>The Michigan chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said the alleged attack is among a spate of anti-Muslim incidents reported since Trump won the election.
>"Our nation's leaders, and particularly President-elect Donald Trump, need to speak out forcefully against the wave of anti-Muslim incidents sweeping the country after Tuesday's election," Executive Director Dawud Walid said.
http://web.archive.org/web/20161110232809/http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/us/post-election-hate-crimes-and-fears-trnd/index.html
That's from the original article which reported on the surge in hate crime reports following the election.
But nothing here is fake. They explicitly claim they are citing a police report.
And they've removed that section from the article on their website, and added a disclaimer at the beginning of the article explaining why.
>We are (regrettably) updating this page on a regular basis.
>This story has been updated to remove a section about a Muslim student in Ann Arbor, Michigan, who said she was threatened by a man with a lighter. In the weeks after the original report, Ann Arbor police investigated the matter and they announced December 21 that they have determined the incident never happened.
>>95631
To continue further:
There is one bit about the above that is a bit contentious, which is that even given that CNN and NBC reported events accurately from the very beginning, and updated their audience on the story in good faith thereafter and in an unbiased manner to their supposed leftist bent, the article in which the original report appears is titled "'Make America White Again': Hate speech and crimes post-election".
So that was in essence an opinion piece. And it used an unverified event to further a narrative. That's a reasonable point of contention.
But even if we consider the above, the fact was that an upsurge in hate crimes following the election (including some attacks against Trump voters, which was also mentioned in the CNN article) is news that warrants a story by itself. It's reasonable to assume that of the hundreds reported, most if not the large majority are true, barring some evidence of mass conspiracy. That's a story that was topical for the time right after the election, so to claim that news outlets should have waited until all the cases had their day in court to report on a surge in hate crimes, and that otherwise the news was fake, is nonsensical.
It wasn't unreasonable for CNN to arrive at a narrative whereby Trump's win was responsible for promoting hate crimes by looking at the surge of reports and then using a sampling of those as evidence.
>>95619
Aren't we all slaves to our own confirmation bias?
>>95379
>only liberals are guilty of fake news
What about #pizzagate, or the theories that she took performance enhancing drugs? Alex Jones claimed she and Obama are literal demons. What about that?
>>95640
Very astute anon, we probably all are
I would hope that being here can help that
>>95641
Those are fake stories but even infowars mostly bases their reactionary clickbait and tinfoil conspiracy theories on reality. That isn't what the fake news epidemic is.
Fake news is all about some guy in Finland or Russia or Macedonia or Georgia who makes a website uses the same style and CSS as a popular legit news site but serves up nothing but fake, 100% made up BS.
Here's a list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_websites_in_the_United_States
Well this has certainly surprised no one!
>>95647
We use our core beliefs to filter data: sadly for most people this means using their immature two-year-old vision and insight that isn't likely to change over their entire life.
It's what's easy because they don't have to think, but they miss out on thoughtfulness and consideration: and are merely the senseless who are like filler and of no value.
>Fox News reports on it
>hurr durr the lamestream media isnt reporting on it!
why are poltards so fucking retarded?
>>95648
wrong, you stupid goverment sucking cuck.
"fake news" is a term invented by the mainstream media to delegitimize non-mainstream news sources and articles that do no fit their narrative.
Using your wikipedia link, "pizzagate" is a perfect example.
Pizzagate is not an invented story. I watched anons investigate it and come to their conclusions. Their conclusions are shoddy as hell, but it's still not fake news. They're just wrong.
Once again, I hate you.
>>96598
Go back to >>>/pol/ you kneejerking tinfoilfag. In the real world, the term "fake news" has meaning.
>Fake news websites (also referred to as hoax news[3][4]) deliberately publish hoaxes, propaganda, and disinformation, using social media to drive web traffic and amplify their effect.[5][6][7] Unlike news satire, fake news websites seek to mislead, rather than entertain, readers for financial or other gain.[8][6] Such sites have promoted political falsehoods in Germany,[9][10] Indonesia and the Philippines,[11] Sweden,[12] China,[13][not in citation given][14][not in citation given] Myanmar,[15] and the United States.[16][17][18] Many sites originate, or are promoted, from Russia,[5][16][19] Macedonia,[20][21] Romania,[22] and the U.S.[23][24]
>One pan-European newspaper, The Local,[unreliable source?] described the proliferation of fake news as a form of psychological warfare.[12] Agence France-Presse reported media analysts see it as damaging to democracy.[10][not in citation given] The European Parliament's Committee on Foreign Affairs in 2016 when it passed a resolution warning that the Russian government was using "pseudo-news agencies" and Internet trolls as disinformation propaganda to weaken confidence in democratic values.[7]
>>96605
Gotta love how this guy links some greetext from the article I JUST derided for being inaccurate.
You think I didn't read it?
Get a brain.
>>96607
The reason you think it's inaccurate is because you're a neoreactionary alt-right kneejerker from /pol/ who thinks CNN is fake news and doesn't understand what fake news really is.
The wikipedia article explains it adequately, but that assumes you have more than 60 IQ points with which to comprehend it, which you probably don't.
>>96609
Your normie mind is pathetic.
You see someone disgree with your, so SURELY there must be something off about his character. Maybe I'm a bigot, or a nazi, and stupid, whatever as long as you can protect your weak sense of self.
>>96605
he's right, though
>>96613
the only possible way you could think that is if you are a bad person, so there.
>>96611
Politics is a normalfag activity. Enjoy being a normie.
>>96618
This was your opportunity to be an adult. And what did you come up with?
>no u
This is the level of discourse brought by regular humans. A person who thinks he knows something. Someone who defends themselves at all cost, because changing is quite painful and scary.
Peace, fag.
>>95637
>>95635
>>95631
>>95626
No. Proper journalism would have been to not report about something that hasn't been crosschecked. Here they managed to reach their goal, which was to shed a negative light on Trump supporters. Going back on their reports weeks after the initial impact doesn't heal the damage imparted by false reporting in the opinion.
>>96622
You don't know anything at all though. It's hilarious that you sit there and spew partisanship while thinking of yourself as somehow not a normalfag. I know this contradicts your worldview where /pol/ is edgy counterculture, but politics is utterly normal.
Everything you've said ITT is based on a false premise. Furthermore, you're conflating news you don't like with fake news. Prove me wrong, faggot.
Thanks for attracting /pol/tards, Murdoch.
Bill O'Reilly's a fucking elitist.
>>96629
All this time and you still haven't changed.
You're still attacking my character. STILL defending your crap thoughts.
I wasn't even partisan, that was someone else.
Anyway, let's try this again.
>Everything you've said ITT is based on a false premise
What false premise?
>you're conflating news you don't like with fake news
No, that is what the media does. That is exactly what the phony "fake news" phenomenon is.
>>96639
Keep pretending like the OP post is based on a valid premise, wingnut.
>>96639
>phony "fake news" phenomenon
lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites
>>96640
I never thought of things that way. That was quite insightful I am impressed.
jk
>>96641
This is a bit confusing.
Fake news exists.
But the "fake news phenomenon" reported by the mainstream media after Trump won is total nonsense.
Although there is fake news, the medias version of "fake news" is merely a propaganda tool to discredit certain sources.
>>96645
You use these words like "Mainstream Media", but you're really talking about exclusively liberal media while ignoring all the overblown sensationalism and half-truths of conservative media, like OP's FoxNews story. There is no more mainstream media in the age of internet news aggregators like googlenews or drudgereport or spidr.today. You would be hard pressed to find large demographic groups which all get their news and information from the same singular source, as was the case 30+ years ago. The "Big 3" TV networks no longer drive the media narrative, but that doesn't stop politicians and those for whom the story impacts from conveniently demonizing the media for unearned popularity points as though they still do control the narrative. There might be some 70 year olds somewhere which only get news from the 30 minute network news broadcast every day but they are an increasingly irrelevant demographic. Media exists but "Mainstream" media is just a buzzword now.
There is no growing list of hate crimes that turned out to be left wing false flags, as the OP post alleges. There have always been people who do things like this for attention, which is totally out of context to the way the story is being presented as a reaction to Trump getting elected. FoxNews has a definite agenda in framing the story the way they did to fit a certain racebaiting narrative for the purpose of outraging people like /pol/tards as much as possible, because outrage = adsense money. All that said this is simply biased news, not fake news.
"Fake news", as described in the media, takes this a step further and makes sites with 100% totally fake stories and conspiracy theories for adsense money. This is what's in the wikipedia article, with dozens of examples.
There is such a fundamental and important distinction between the two concepts of biased news and fake news, it's hard to think of how anyone with a brain could conflate the two unknowingly without a per-existing partisan agenda.
>>96657
>You use these words like "Mainstream Media", but you're really talking about exclusively liberal media while ignoring all the overblown sensationalism and half-truths of conservative media, like OP's FoxNews story.
No I am not. Mainstream media is mainstream media, which of course includes the #1 news channel FOX News.
>>96657
>There is no more mainstream media in the age of internet news aggregators like googlenews or drudgereport or spidr.today.
I am going to stop reading here, sorry.
>>96657
Couldn't we just use the term "yellow journalism" like in the good ol' days.
>>96658
Well then we can agree to disagree. I'm sorry but when so called "alternative" news sites like Infowars are routinely picked up by the largest news aggregator, Drudgereport, then the word "mainstream" as it relates to news has lost all meaning.
(drudgereport isn't really a true aggregator but that's a long post for another thread, they pretend to be and that's the point)
>>96661
>when so called "alternative" news sites like Infowars are routinely picked up by the largest news aggregator, Drudgereport, then the word "mainstream" as it relates to news has lost all meaning
Does not compute
>>96663
Do you agree that drudgereport.com is the mainstream media?
>>96609
We know what fake news means and we know what those who won't shut up about it want it to mean in the minds of the impressionable. The American left has grown rather accustomed to saying something overly couched in language that at first appears superfluous in specificity, but is deliberately designed to evoke a certain emotion or put someone on a path to a foregone conclusion that leaves the propagandist's hands technically clean.
It's the same way they've been repeating the phrase, "Russia hacked the election," referencing DNC leaks when they want the connotation to expand beyond that context. Given that 50% of Democrats legitimately believing Russia hacked the actual voting machines, that tactic has at least partially paid off.
>>96665
no.