Isn't this 'In bed with the enemy' or is it different

>It's only bad when Trump does it!
>Citing Gawker, a failed "news website"

It's like people will at one point meet, greet, and possibly hang out with other people that you don't approve of! Crazy right?

>>67142
Obama or Hillary relatives couldn't do it without the other side having a cow - but Trump, ohhh, he can get away with it and it's all Gawker's fault, or something.

>>67144

>Trump getting away with anything

Are you fucking serious? The guy can't fart without CNN swooping in to smell it and say it smells worse then Shilldog's so go vote for her instead.

>>67177
> 4 failed casinos
> not worse than Hillary Clinton
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>>67199
Hundreds of thousands dead due to poor decision making or worse willful malice. Clinton is worse.

>>67140
>gawker

>>67199
>still pushing the "4 failed businesses out of hundreds is a terrible record" meme

>>67140
>in bed with enemy
Obama and Hillary sell arms to and fund ISIS, nobody bats an eye.

Ivanka goes on a small vacation with someone who's only actual tie to Vladimir Putin is a single accusation from US Weekly, everyone accuses Trump of both conspiring with the Russians, and the Russians of being some evil entity.

What a fucking circus.

>>67177

Poor Trump he can't insult the father of a dead solider without the media getting mad. He can't accuse a POW of being a loser without the media getting mad. Poor Trump can't ban media outlets from his rallies without the media commenting on it. Poor Trump can't promise to donate money and then never do it without the media saying anything. Poor Trump can't provoke Paul Ryan without the media saying anything. Trump can't say an American started ISIS (even with someone trying to save him from his dumb statement) without the media noticing. He can't insult Bloomberg after promoting him a year earlier. Trump can't go on Howard Stern and say going to Iraq was the right thing to do and then pretend he was always against it. Poor poor Trump.

Trump's whole campaign is about insulting others and making outrageous (and often contradictory statements). His whole campaign has been about saying crazy shit that will get him free attention.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html?_r=0

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

>>67223

The four failed casinos isn't the biggest part of Trump's failure. I mean sure it is sad even when Atlantic City was doing well he was filing for bankruptcy and he lost of a lot of money for those who invested in the projects...

...ut his failure comes from his inability to pay working-class people for their work. His love of hiring non-locals to build his shit (see his golf course in Ireland where he promised thousands of jobs but brought about 150 and the construction went to non-local workers). His inability to realize he is at the center of the "globalization" he hates so much. He gets his Trump clothing made in Asia. He is building a tower in Canada with Russian financing. Not to mention his otherforeign developments built on foreign money. His failure to do anything but provoke those who disagree with him. His Trump U scam. His draft dodging on medical terms even though he was at his fancy university playing sports with his buddies. His attempt to pretend he understands working class life when he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His failure to even unite the Republican Party at the convention. Many prominent republicans magically developed "other obligations" during the RNC because they hate him so much. Even though he has given the banks, the richest people on the planet, etc. everything they could ever hope for in official RNC platform. He even wants to cut taxes for the top to get them/him to paying 25% (less that than I pay working a real job). His threat to tank America's credit by attempting to "pay less than we owe" on our loans.

Trump is bullshit. His only strength is his ability to make people afraid, angry, and drive each other apart. Romney would have destroyed Clinton in this election, but Trump is soo terrible on so many levels and is beyond incompetent. He used to go on about how great the Clintons are and how he wanted assault rifles banned.

Trump is a buffoon.

>>67245
Didn't he also hire some illegal Poles to build Trump Tower?

>>67201
indeed. the clintons are redneck mafia.
https://youtu.be/u4vlVEigntQ

sooooo we not based on politics , certain people cant hang out with others?

>>67239

What the hell are you babbling about, you retarded CtR shill? You're just proving my point that he can't do anything without some media blitz on him to twist stories into some retarded pretzel of horseshit.

>>67199

>Hey Hillary is outright got people killed under her failed secretary position and nation security fuck up, BUT TRUMP LOST SOME MONEY, HE'S WORSE.

Holy shit.

>>67269

>ignores all the terrible things trump has done to working class people and his flip flops on gun control and his pro banker policies
>accuses someone else of being a shill

good work Pavel. you are certainly earning your rubles today. Vald will be pleased.

As for her work as secretary of state let's see what Trump had to say "And how did she do as secretary of state? Probably above and beyond everybody else and everything else." Trump 2013

Trump is 1 of three things. 1) A Clinton shill as he is the only person shitty enough to lose to her. 2) Putin's shill 3) A complete dipshit that has no idea what he is talking about.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/285266-seven-key-findings-in-the-benghazi-report

>>67284


And your trained monkey Obama called Hillary the least qualified to be president when they ran against each other and switched saying now she is magically the best person he knows.

But you know what? I don't give a fuck what Trump says, the argument was that someone believes the media is letting him "get away" with anything.

>>67292

she was the shittiest candidate until Trump came along, but he was so terrible, so dumb, and inept that Clinton now looks good.

Trump is so bad he makes her look good. It is an amazing feat. But hey he said she was a great secretary of state. He praised her when she represented NY in congress and he was a democrat until recently so maybe he really is just trying to help her out because his bullshit certainly helps,

The repbulicans have spent years demonizing clinton and even with all that fodder Trump is still the greater of two evils. Even those in his (current) party refuse to even deal with him.

As for the media letting him get away with anything. It is tough to tell because he makes headlines for doing terrible things all day long. Getting in twitter fight (like a teenage girl) with the father of dead solider, if any politician did this it'd be all over the news. And as I said in my first post his whole campaign is about saying crazy ass things to get attention.

>>67343
Beautifully put, Anon.

>>67284
Damn you shills get triggered easily.

>>67343
Yeah I've been a leftie my whole life and basically the only thing keeping me from voting against Hilary is that Trump is just as bad, only mentally and emotionally dumber. It's amazing that Conservicucks managed to fuck up even badly than us this election.

>>67144
Thats because murdoch isnt paying Trump millions of dollars in donations

So how does /pol/ deal with the fact that Trump clearly has ties to Russia and a very pro-Russia stance? Russia has clearly shown in the last couple of years that they're still up to no good, so how can you not see this as a bad thing?

>>67661
Well, anon, Russia hates the fags too. And Putin is based, I guess.

I don't fucking get it either.

>>67661
/pol/ doesn't care about facts or the truth or politics
/pol/ just cares about triggering lefties

>>67681
>we were just pretending to be retarded

Way too late to pull that card. It's been nice to see the backpedaling for the last couple of weeks though.

>>67682
>>67681
Hi r*ddit.

>>67661
What do you have against Russia? America has invaded many more countries than them in the past few years. America, like every country, does shady actions.

What specifically is it about Russia that makes it stand out to you as evil?

>>67698
Strong and well thought out response as always.
>>67700
They threaten our power/position and are friendly with some of our enemies and competition. They're also far more blatant and impatient with their crooked shit, which is worrying.

>>67714
Yeah but I didn't want to call out your ad hominems and shitposting.

>>67714
>They're also far more blatant and impatient with their crooked shit.

Lies. You just think that because American media highlights Russian misdeeds and obscures their own.
And Russia does the exact same thing.

They are both crooked tyrannical nations. You think the rest of the world doesn't realize this?

IMHO America, Russia and China all have the same level of credibility to everyone else. Which is ZERO.

>>67732
What does our credibility have to do with whether or not we should be worried about a potential leader of our country obviously being in bed with our rival for world power? Irrelevant non-world power cucks don't need to respond.

>>67732

you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever left America?

Russia is ranked 119th in terms of being least corrupt by while the United States is 16th. Russia is a horribly corrupt system. Laws are inconsistent and used as a way to attack rather than regulate or protect. The US isn't perfect or the least corrupt but we don't deal with anything like they do. I've never even thought of bribing a cop in the US or a professor. However, in Russia neither of these practices are uncommon. The corruption and the kickbacks required to do business push a lot of businesses out of the country.

Russia is basically a single party system. Oppositional groups are sometimes blocked from advertising. Russia blocks NGOs from working the country. The country has an AIDS rate that is out of control. A drug addiction rate that is out of control. They spent 50 billion on the Olympics and huge portion of that money went to kickbacks, bribes, and theft, while some of the workers who actually built the facilities were trafficked over, had their passports taken away, and told to keep working despite not being paid.


http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2016/0126/How-corrupt-is-Russia

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/russia

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/yabloko-veggies-ad-banned-by-metro-11035

http://www.businessinsider.com/sochis-allegedly-collosal-corruption-2014-1

>>67740
>>67750

Im just saying: only deluded Americans think of their country as "good guys" or "world police".

That's a fact. You can't "but Russia" out of this one.

>HE is more friendly with Russia!
>no SHE is!

How is this even relevant anymore? Calling Russia the "enemy". Are americans mentally stuck in the 60s?

American voters might want to read more modern history, like the fall of the Berlin Wall, or the Reykjavik summit. This is just retarded.

>>67771
>russians are not the enemy
I'm guessing you don't play online video games.

Jokes aside, the Russian government for the last 3-4 decades has constantly pushed American and Euro buttons. Also invading and annexing Crimea, as well as a failed invasion of Georgia/Abkhazia/South Ossetia, and weekly stories about Russian intelligence plots.

>>67239
Khan is a memeber of the islamic brotherhood and advocated for sharia law in america until some bros found this out and he suddenly deletes huge portions of his website.
if you get caught your a loser. and he was talking about john mcCain an actual loser
America did start ISIS.
the obama admin gave money, guns, and supplies to anti-syrian mercenaries to wage a proxy war against russia and destabilize the Syria-Russia allegiance.

you have nothing other than media lies and out of context negative interpretations.
You know this is the internet where I can go and fact check everything you claim and it's all false
try again shillary bot

>>67284
>blowing little easily explainable things out of proportion to protect a proven corrupt liar.

are you in need of help? does she have your family like Comey?

>>67661
Provide actual proof of a legit connection
not a trump joke
not a cryptic putin quote actual proof

cause I don't know if you know this but there is a large database with proof the Clintons are crooked

wheres your database?

>>67752
"I don't have proof but I'm going to tell you what I think as if it were the truth. I'm also going to use the phrase that's a fact as if it makes my opinionated statement correct. Shillary will be so proud of me. I really earned my 5 dollars an hour"

>>67750

Ok so Russia might be more corrupt internally. But the USA has a way, WAY higher body count and that's what really counts. Self righteous psychopats is what you are.

>>67778
You need to work on your reading comprehension mate. I'm just calling out the fact that as an American you don't get to say "Russia is more blatantly bad/corrupt/abusive". Because you're obviously biased.

>>67750
This.

Work with a Russian immigrant and she was shocked that we don't bribe everyone here. She told me a story of how she went to the DMV to get her car licensed and gave the counter lady an extra 40 bucks and the lady gave it back and she said she just looked at her like "WTF?" and pushed the money back across the counter, thinking she wasn't going to get the tags.

The DMV lady was confused and gave her the tags and the money back. The Russian I work with had no idea what was going on.

She says you bribe the police, you bribe any and all gov officials, you bribe the fucking cable guy to get extra channels, you bribe everyone.

Needless to say she loves America now.

>>67779
>better move these goal posts a little bit more

Hi Ivan

>>67839
Is Ivan the Russian equivalent of Evan?

>>67245
Great points! Now read these again with the perspective that Trump is in Clinton's globalist camp and always has been. He is throwing the election, in the least obvious way: with the secret in the open.

>>67844

Ivan = John (i.e. from the Bible)

But I don't know if Evan is just an alternate pronunciation as well.

>>67771
You're right, Putin constantly tries to start shit with the US and EU because he's such a good guy. We'll make sure you get your fifty rubles for Correcting the Record, Sasha.

>>67850

I don't understand why the right is pro global regulation but is anti-(national) regulation. This seems to be the craziest contradiction ever.

The invisible hand of the free market is incapable of working on a global scale, but it will work great locally? Trump will save us by getting rid of the minimum wage, continuing to fight unions, lowering the tax rate to 25% for the richest Americans (so they pay less than the guys who actually work for a living ) and by abolishing the estate tax which only affects individuals who are worth more than 6 million?

It just so happens that the American executives looking to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible found the workers most willing to work for pennies and pollute the shit out of their homes, but if we deregulated America, got rid of minimum wage, got rid of the unions, stopped worrying about the environment, things would be a paradise here. The executives would never do this to their own people in order to get richer (even though they are the ones that abandoned american workers for China and the free hand of the market never got anyone to stop buying chinese shit from walmart)? We would all be better off? Despite the fact that the right has fought against workers at an insane pace since the 1980s.

I don't understand it at all. The right celebrated the death of the worker when Reagan began the war on unions, they celebrate again when Walker beats on the unions, they cheer on supreme court cases that seek to weaken the union/worker, they fight the idea of living wages but they care about the workers?

>>67752

>Im just saying: only deluded Americans think of their country as "good guys" or "world police".

Is this what you are saying cause I could have sworn the post I responded to said,

>They are both crooked tyrannical nations.
>IMHO America, Russia and China all have the same level of credibility to everyone else.
>same level of credibility
>same level

America has done some shitty things during its tenure as the (democratic/capitalist) world leader. However, to assert that it has the same level of crediblity as Russia (or China) is absurd. Our stability, relatively low level of corruption, etc. make us an amazing place to invest, live and work. Russia's low level of honesty, lack of stability, and authoritarian power make it a terrible place to invest, work (average wage in Russia is $780 a month, which equals less than 10K a year!), and live (unless you have some oligarch money or connections).

Not only does your same level bullshit ignore the differences in life in both nations and huge differences in freedom, corruption, wages, health, life expectancy, aids rate, etc., but it ignores the nations' actions outside of the country as well. And until you can prove Russia's foreign policies are "just as bad" as America's I'm not buying it. America gets itself into some dumb situations and has hurt other nations, but this ignores the destruction that Russia has engaged in (remember they were in Afghanistan for a decade before we were), and their meddling and puppeting of other nations leaders causes problems.

Also, it ignores the good that America does abroad. In terms of fighting for human rights, observing elections, observing important court cases, and so on. Even the superficial choice of diplomatic vehicle displays the difference between Russia and America. American diplomats use fairly modest American made cars, while Russians use decked out Mecedes. America is far from perfect, but it is far from being on the same level as Russia or China.

>>67777

http://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trumps-russia-connections-foreign-policy-presidential-campaign/

http://www.politifact.com/global-news/article/2016/may/02/paul-manafort-donald-trumps-top-adviser-and-his-ti/

>>67851
Not anon, so basically she's called Jane in Russian?

>>67888
He asked for legit connections, not articles making speculations built on other speculations.

The shit about manafort is literally dependent on the findings of the Ukraine’s" National Anti-Corruption Bureau", an agency that wasn't even in existence at the time Manafort allegedly took those payments and is controlled by a Ukranian president that is equally as corrupt and firmly entrenched in the pocket of larger Western powers more than Yankunovich arguably was in Putin's.

This "Trump is Russian Trojan horse" shit is pathetic yellow journalism.

>>67886
>America exports Democracy and Freedom! And better business opportunities too!

Hahahaha oh wow.... Where do I even begin.

Look up Smedley Butler, or William Blum. That might help getting your head out of your ass.

Manaforr has resigned.

Trump apologists btfo

don't forget about manafort's new investigation on treason

>>68053
It's ok, there's a very large and constantly growing list of conspiracies this can be blamed for.

>>67888
What are your credentials smart ass? I served 4 years marines recon and infantry. I've been in 50+ physical confrontations in retail management in two decades. Ones where criminals threatened with knives, guns and even bombs. Ones where we have been in all out hand-to-hand for 4-5 minutes. I've pulled a gun on criminals. I've followed criminals to their houses and got my merchandise back. You ever hear a grown male criminal choking to death because he couldn't back up his talk?

Get a life dumbass. Stick to the Call of Duty games, the Mountain Dew and the Cheetos.

>>68056
Is this the new gorilla warfare? I don't frequent the forced meme factory boards enough to know.

>>68056
Holy shit it's Gecko45.

>>67882

why does no one have an answer for this?

>>67946

what an amazing bait post. (I'm surprised you didn't get any of the "(you)s" you so desperately wanted.

>starts off with a straw man.
>follows up with a childish insult.
>refuses to refute anything with any evidence or thought
>displays an obvious lack of knowledge of American or Russian actions within the world
>attempts to be "smart" by name dropping Bulter like his criticisms aren't the go to criticism of the military/war.
>and ends with another insult

good work anon

6/10 (I'd give you 9/10 but you lose 3 points for being unable to generate a single (you))

>>68183
As a general rule, Russia apologists have either drunk way too much of the koolaid, or are rusemasters. It's not worh replying either way.

>>67140
Why are you acting like Russia is our enemy?
Stop drinking the kool-aid

>>68183
>can't refute the fact that America is just as bad or something worse than Russia in foreign affairs.
>It's bait!!

>>68183
>>68190
Damn, you clappyfats really are brainwashed. Yes, America is perfect, America can do no wrong, all competition to America is evil.