Not Being Stupid Is ‘Cognitive Privilege’ Now, Which Is Just

>>162721

>white race gone incest all over the place
>niggers and asians create movement which literally forces everyone of heir race to support each others to study and get master degrees.
>turns out white people are fucking losers when it comes to science and only survived because of "elite relationships".
>suddently "support retards but only white retards" shit comes up.
>jews leaving USA for happy places in China and Africa.

>“Feelings of guilt are natural when coming to >consciousness of one’s place in the scheme of >things — and noticing that one has been >conferred benefits through sheer accident — >but guilt is an impediment to social-justice >action, not a motivator (guilt slides easily into >resentment),” the author writes.

lol, so all those who try to guilt people are actually psycopathic people who lack sympaty and need to hurt because they are so poor they will die

Only disabled black HIV positive transgender retard Muslims are the real human beings. All the rest must be exterminated.

>>162728
>>162727
i must be retarded because both your shits read stupid

>>162721
Why do they talk about "privelage" as if it were something to be ashamed of? Shaming intellectuals is about the worst injustice I can imagine, because most already feel trapped and hurt by this heap of idiots we call civilization. That's why most people who are depressed and use drugs are smarter than average.

>>162789
Because they are anti humans. they hate any form of success.

>>162789
>PICKLE RICK

>>162790
>>>162789
>Because they are anti humans. they hate any form of success.
Because successful people don't need the government to hold their hand and when free of government interference they can't be controlled.

>>162721
while "intelligence" is at least partially genetic, it does take education to make the most of it.
An uneducated "smart" person is as useless as an uneducated "dumb" person.
And while most unskilled labor is going to be automated out of existence at some point in the future, skilled manual labor is still in high demand, and most "intelligent" people will not be learning to be skilled carpenters, sculptors or hair-dressers, we need the "dummies" for those jobs.

In the US however, the problem is that education is fucking expensive, which severely limits who can utilize their innate intellect, as you essentially need to sell your soul to even get started on learning.

>>162810
You don't have to sell your soul to get a skilled labor job. Most professional organizations have appearance and entry level courses that don't require getting a student loan. Some of these jobs are in such high demand that companies will pay you to get training. Get a well paying job without student debt yoking you for 10 or more years to work in a Starbucks..they are so stoopid.

Of course it does.

Does that mean that all white people are successful and face no obstacles? Of course not. Does it mean that no racial minorities are ever successful? Of course not.

What it means is that, statistically, being white in the US provides some benefits - most of which are intangible.

http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

>>162721
Liberals are becoming anti intellectuals again, huh?

Really coming full circle.

>>162867
>http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html
I was going to post that, but you beat me to it.
How terrifying that something written in 1961 is slowly coming to fruition.
Diana Moon Glampers even sounds like a fat, blue-haired, cat eye glasses wearing Tumblrina name.

Stupid people should not be allowed to vote

>>162867

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>>162867
Always hated this story.

It presents two alternatives, either you're constantly left in the shadow of more powerful men and you better fucking hope you keep up or you're a slave that can never excel at anything to satisfy a greater system.

>>162721
>The University of Iowa
Wow, it really is everywhere now.

>>162789
>Shaming intellectuals is about the worst injustice I can imagine
Aren't 'intellectuals the ones constantly coming up with reasons to slaughter millions of people?

>That's why most people who are depressed and use drugs are smarter than average.
Or maybe intelligence is an inherently bad thing and we were clearly WAY better off back as ooga booga cavemen retards.

>>162901
>Or maybe intelligence is an inherently bad thing and we were clearly WAY better off back as ooga booga cavemen retards.
This may actually be true..
We already have factory farms. Maybe those animals suffer a lot, perhaps as much or more than humans.
If we end up with runaway climate change and earth is mostly sterile then yeah, it would have been a lot less suffering for all living things over all if our (human) civilization never existed.
Moreover, comparing human achievements to what exists in the non-human natural world, an SUV looks a lot less complex than just about any animal for example.
Unless we can evolve a more intelligent and considerate civilization then when we come to an end it may turn out that all the suffering didn't produce anything particularly interesting that wouldn't have existed without civilization.

It's possible that our species hit a sweet spot where we're too smart to simply live in harmony with the rest of the natural world, but too stupid not destroy more than we create, and at our end it may simply turn out from an objective reading that we were not worthwhile.

>>162908
caveman
>doesnt concern self with meaningless philosophical worries
>100% confidant that what you're doing right now is exactly what you were built to do; what your father did; what his father did
>focuses only on filling belly, filling wife's hairy bag, and relaxing with the rest of the village
>even in your most furious war frenzy you only kill/lose a few enemy of friendly villagers a year
>bone shaman said that you become one with the earth or some shit when you die, you believe its totally true with all your heart

you, right now
>CEASELESS low level stress from the moment of your birth that your indoctrination wont even allow you to perceive
>constantly worrying about concepts like 'who you really are' and 'what your place in the world is'
>constantly worrying about what happens when you die
>often feel alone and alienated in a society that doesn't need or care about you
>society is constantly spinning and warping around you with every new generation in ways you dont understand
>perpetual warfare killing and displacing untold millions at any given moment

some random third worlder
>your otherwise decent peasant life is instead turned into a nightmarish existence from which there is no escape as your land is destroyed and your people are terrorized, enslaved, and exploited

>>162721 (OP)
>Let's celebrate our differences by forcing those differences into a cage until uniqueness means nothing!
>No point in cultivating young minds when individuality is now a privilege.

Providing more evidence that equality was never about treating people the same, as far as the oppression Olympics crowd is concerned. And it is no longer about accommodating a fair shot in life for the underprivileged. It is now a means to place every facet of society, even those crucial for innovation and leadership, to a level that placates the lowest common denominator.

This makes as much sense as rednecks voting to strap underprivileged school districts in Appalachia because congress told them the rich need tax breaks to "create jobs." Guess your children didn't need special ed services after all, Kleetus. You really showed those egghead bleeding hearts.

The ideological fringes of this country seem to be racing to the extreme ends of unfettered insanity, and I'm just waiting for them to finally collide with each other in an authoritarian full-circle of newspeak.

And yes, Church of Elon, I'm fully aware it won't matter either way in a few short decades as many degree-requiring professional jobs and low-skill factory positions alike are likely to be replaced by some asshole CEO responding to a drastic drop in the cost of production. The big hurdle is how governments get ahead of the automation problem by coordinating solutions for how the masses will subsist once human labor means next to nothing. UBI, post-scarcity distribution, rearranging the job market to be service/art/vocation centered–I don't know but something needs to replace what we have before it disappears.
>Inb4 "how dare you assert the govt can solve a problem for its citizens! Await the blind market to correct it all!"

>>162721
>cherrypicking retarded opinion piece from student newspaper
>claims the university made the statements
clearly nobody in this thread is in the "intellectual elite"

>>162917
It doesn't matter who said it–it's the dumbest idea since opinion-policed safe spaces. We shouldn't be giving this the attention it doesn't deserve, but no one ITT but OP even made it sound as though it was an official University statement. Certainly wasn't based on a real study.
Oh no. Guess that makes you just like the rest of us.

>>162915
Well now, looks like you aren't nearly as bright as you thing either. Not supporting a failing school system is not the same as not supporting education. Perhaps the people in poor communities are tired of constantly throwing good money after bad for no results. You could call their choice down right logical. You are also going off the assumption that rural schools are under performing due to lack of funding. You really should update your statistics on per student spending and student performance levels rather than parroting what has always been the accepted 'truth'.

>>162884
I think the worst part of this whole story is that the system is inherently flawed. The people are handicapped to the level of retardation making nearly all forms of work impossible. Couple this with the fact that the government has to break it's own rules in order to function, yet no time is spent elaborating on this obvious plot point.

In the end it creates a dystopia which trys desperately to be 1984 and yet falls flat on its face.

>>162925
It's a satirical short story. You're not meant to pick apart holes in the world building.

>>162925
Well we don't really know how the society works. It could be that the only reason the noises or whatever played is when you begin thinking about something the government doesn't want you to think and people can still act normally besides.

But yeah, >>162927, it's just a satirical short story, no 14 year old is going to be 7 feet tall and super muscular and the actual department head of whateverthefuck is not going to execute the criminals herself. But it comes off as very Ayn Rand-ish where it bemoans how smart and strong people have to lower themselves for the sake of the poor and it's fairly annoying, but maybe I'm taking it too seriously. As are idiots who think it's a legitimate herald of doom.

>>162927
>>162930
I get that, but even a simple statement like, "She took aim and fired two shots with astounding accuracy," would have added a lot to the story. The juxtaposition of how everything is supposed to be "average" and a top government enforcer described as "superb" would be great world building.

I know I am being nitpicky, but I just feel it is a missed opportunity.

nice to see SJW finding common ground with trump supporters

>>162864
does height privilege exist
does black privilege exist
does asian privilege exist
does jewish privilege exist
does hindu privilege exist
does right handed privilege exist
does left handed privilege exist
does bodyweight privilege exist
does nationality privilege exist
does theistic privilege exist
does family privilege exist
does iq privilege exist
does wealth privilege exist
does children privilege exist
does teenage privilege exist
does early adulthood privilege exist

>>163421
Statistically, yes. It's not a guarantee Combating it is very complicated, because much of the work we need to do to help racial minorities begins with acknowledging the generations of systemic oppression and socioeconomic barriers they face. It's a very complicated knot that needs to be untangled.

>>163437
>Nothing but buzzwords
Why not propose a possible solution with some target goals and a rough timeline?

>>163450
It is already in the legal system however...

>>162789
>>162721
This is honestly a very simple point to make, but maybe y'all haven't heard it before.

This entire movement is all word games:
>Highlight a "injustice" or "inequality"
>These are -like being crippled- a DISABILITY
>Disabilities or disadvantages imply that they must be overcome to achieve what others do more easily

However, with 3rd wave feminism and other progressive movements there's a subtle change.
>Now being normal or anything slightly above that is a PRIVILEGE
>These things are not the norm, average, or gifts, but "entitlements"
>The implication of these qualities being entitlements is meant to provoke action
>Equity must be enforced and those above a standard have to feel guilt or shame for things that "don't deserve"

Its really fucking destructive really. Instead of encouraging people that are disadvantaged to rise to the standard or that THEY need assistance they do the opposite and essentially advocate for others to slouch down and be marginalized.

>>162872
Well that's pretty intellectist of you to say.

>>162864
There is no such thing as "privilege" it's nothing but race and success envy.

>>162789
>intellectuals
What a meme definition

>>163553
We all have privileges and deficits, it's the nature of being human and an individual.

>>162901
>Aren't 'intellectuals the ones constantly coming up with reasons to slaughter millions of people?

Confusing lack of empathy with intelligence. I can see you don't suffer from cognitive privilege.

>>162817
Problem is in the US:

1. Those jobs are looked down on and shammed. Just tell someone you're a plumber without any other context.

2. They're hidden as potential education paths. College or nothing.

3. Incentive programs are limited. Combine with the first two problems and its doubtful a bright, high school family is going to learn about these unless some sort of outside force nudges them.

>>162910
Caveman
>CEASELESS high level stress from the moment of your birth from constantly dealing with animal attacks
>constantly worrying about concepts like "knowing when you will have food" or "what you did to make the sky God send a hurricane at your village"
>constantly worrying about what happens when you die
give me a citation showing cavemen did not fear death
>society is constantly spinning and warping around you with every new generation in ways you dont understand
life was better before people got lazy and started using this new "fire", back in my day etc
>perpetual warfare with any new group you discover, whole villages dying to the last child

>>163572
There is no such thing as privilege the way the left defines it.

>>163437
Nobody in this country is oppressed other than those punished for success.

Minorities don't face any barriers in the US in 2017. You are just enabling a failed victim culture.

Its amusing how liberals are actually going full circle and becoming the identity politics people they were in the slavery days.

just you watch, now with cognitive privilege they will outright say that white people are born with it while blacks and other minorities are overwhelmingly "undercognitively privileged".

they are going to come out and actually say whites are smarter than blacks and therefore use that as their argument.

what a time we live in.

>>162915
Don't bring the "Rednecks" into this. Tax cuts are not just "for the rich". You wouldn't sound so ignorant if you actually understood how the average gop taxcut is distributed.

>>162917
This is the base of the modern day American Left.

>>163386

Projection Fail.

Trump supporters are actually the most successful tax paying group in the country.

>>163452
First of all "Racial Minorities" (aka black because no other non-white race still seems to need any handouts) don't need any help. Our legal system it set up to make sure they are given the same opportunities. Their failings are cultural and their own.

Ever heard of the curse of knowledge? Not having knowledge; that which you cannot use is better; then having knowledge; which you cannot use.

>>163815
Uhhh... I have knowledge on quite a few things... and I charge people to use it ..

>>163817
Your asshole is not knowledge.

Centuries of intellectualism and elitist development in all fields won't be changed by a schoolpaper written by literal legal cretins.

Nevertheless thisbis frightening, america has hits a point of degeneracy that is unbelievable. Almost feels like a dream at times.

Okay, retards. No one else has told you this but I'm going to. Privilege isn't absolute. Everyone has privilege to some degree. A rich black man has it better than a poor white guy because money gives you privilege. A man is more likely to be chosen for a manual labor job than a woman. That's a privilege. A black guy and a white guy walk into an expensive store at the same time. The white guy not being followed around is a white privilege. Privilege isn't having a completely easy life and getting everything you want. It just means people will be chosen and given things based on something that's deemed desirable.

If a white man and a black man walk into a bank in the hopes of getting a loan to start a business the white man is more likely to get approved even if they had near equal credentials.

>>164195
You racist. YOU NAZI. HOW DARE YOU USE YOUR USE YOUR ENGLISH PRIVILGE LIKE THAT
I CAN'T TYPE LIKE THAT AND NEITEHR SHOULD YOU
MY ANTIFA BUDDYS WILL BREAK YOUR HANDS

>>162721
Only on the usa, retardest country in the world.

>>164217
>Implying both sides wouldn't hate me for that post.

>>164217
ANTI INTIFADA?

>>162721

>Daily Caller

Oh look, more retards who go out of their way to be upset and offended by shit other retards do.

>>164195
>innate differences, happenstance, and social circumstances afford different people different opportunities

What's your point? This is something that's been true since time immemorial and doesn't need to be stated. Framing this in terms of "privilege" is unhelpful and only leads to resentment from those with lesser "privilege" and defensiveness from those with greater "privilege." A black guy in an expensive store is more likely to be profiled because he's statistically more likely to steal. Is the white guy supposed to feel bad or guilty about this? What do you think should be done?

>>164485
>Is the white guy supposed to feel bad or guilty about this?
No, he should acknowledge that he has privilege and stop denying that it doesn't exist.

>What do you think should be done?
Make rich people pay their fair share of taxes, close loopholes that let them dodge taxes and invest directly into lower income neighborhoods and I don't mean just putting more food stamps on EBT cards. The welfare system is broken and any attempt at getting off of hurts you in the long run because no matter how much money you start making they take that out of your benefits so you're always making up the difference. Start cleaning up and putting nice things in lower income neighborhoods now instead of waiting for Becky and Greg from the midwest to open a vegan strip club there.

Some are born smart, and some are born dull.
Hard work is supposed to be the bridge that links the two together.
We are not priviledged, we are fortunate.
Tards be salty as all hell.

>>164494
>No, he should acknowledge that he has privilege and stop denying that it doesn't exist.
Why? What will that accomplish? Black people still commit more crime and thus will still be treated with more suspicion.

>Start cleaning up and putting nice things in lower income neighborhoods
But that's gentrification and white people get called racist for doing it.

>instead of waiting for Becky and Greg from the midwest to open a vegan strip club there.
Okay then, why are you telling us? Your message needs to be directed at the people living in those neighborhoods to take pride in their communities and make them nice instead of waiting for white people to move in and do it for them.

>>164499
>But that's gentrification and white people get called racist for doing it.
Only when they move in and try to take over instead of integrating. The same shit people accuse Muslims of doing. Spike Lee did an interview about this. His grandfather would play jazz music at a high volume and no one complained. White people moved in and called the cops on him.

>Your message needs to be directed at the people living in those neighborhoods to take pride in their communities and make them nice instead of waiting for white people to move in and do it for them.
I live in the Bronx and we do this regularly. We plant gardens, host events to clean up the borough and the whole nine yards. No one pays attention or tries to support what we're doing until some yuppies in flannel shirts and green hair move in.

>>162922
>looks like you aren't nearly as bright as you thing either
>thing
>I'M not bright

Don't conflate shitty fund management & poverty culture with just plain ignorant priorities in brain-drained areas. BOTH are a major problem. But just ignoring weak school districts is the worst way to keep talented people willing to improve the school system around.

Please don't bitch to me about student spending per capita when I was raised in several rural areas in the deep south & have seen it in action. Some of my family works in a small mountain elementary school in TN & not only make paltry tenured salary but often have to purchase several students' school supplies per semester while the school gets cut from extra state funding due to already struggling performance. The reading skills aren't getting any better there, I can tell you that.

>You really should update your statistics on per student spending and student performance
>Parroting
Sure! Look at this .gov stats site graph
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html
In 2014, the bottom half of all 50 states' per student spending starts with Louisiana & includes every southern/deep south state.

Compare that to an official NAEP report card the very next year for say...mathematics.
https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?chort=1&sub=RED&sj=AL&sfj=NP&st=MN&year=2015R3
& notice all the same southern & mostly rural states' clearly below-average proficiency scores. CA & MI being the only exceptions.


>>163659
Alright. Since every little thing has to boil down to partisan hackery, gimme a crash course on what the GOP has in store via tax cuts. And for public education, other than privatizing the shit out of it & grandstanding against common core, which a lot of folks on either side despise anyhow?

Why is this thread still even up? It was a stupid fucking op-ed from an Iowa U. paper by some uninformed jackhole.

>>162901
>Aren't 'intellectuals the ones constantly coming up with reasons to slaughter millions of people?

Not sure if trolling...but no, that's usually anti-intellectuals, such as communists and politicians, who disregard the advice of intelligent people in order to feed their greedy wants and desires.

>>162727
this is the dumbest shit ive seen all day

More MK showing it's ugly face! This article is a waste of 4chan space...

>passing on the best genes is now considered a hate crime

>>162721
wtf
>be me
>be diagnosed with dyslexia
>spend hours reading each day with support of teachers
> achieve college level reading skills by 7th grade
>never stop still have issues spelling but by and large my issues were solved score well all through out high school and be considered smart.

So I guess years of struggling to improve myself was privilege.

>>166393
Technically yes because you had access to teachers that gave a shit about your well being, which would mean your parents also cared about you and had money.