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http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/691354

"Who Pays for Government? Descriptive Representation and Exploitative Revenue Sources"

abstract
>We examine US city governments’ use of fines and court fees for local revenue, a policy that disproportionately affects black voters, and the connections between this policy and black representation. Using data on over 9,000 cities, we show that the use of fines as revenue is common and that it is robustly related to the share of city residents who are black. We also find that black representation on city councils diminishes the connection between black population and fines revenue. Our findings speak to the potential of descriptive representation to alleviate biases in city policy.

full study:
https://hyeyoungyou.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/fines.pdf
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>over 9000
back to 2006 with you.
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Out of pure academic curiosity, do black areas tend to have more crime and offences that can be fined?
I mean, if so then it's not really discriminatory right?

>We also find that black representation on city councils diminishes the connection between black population and fines revenue
Not really sure what this means either, as someone who doesn't speak statistics. Are they saying that revenues from fining black people goes down as black representation increases?
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>>158026
>Blacks get fined more
>Blacks commit more crimes

Such is life, is it not?
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>>158052

That's true, if blacks commit more crimes they should get fined more often and thus one would expect to see disproportionate local revenue from fines of blacks.

But the extent of the disproportionate targeting of blacks goes beyond that according to the study. Cities with larger black populations don't just give out more fines, but the dollar amount for comparable fines tend to be substantially higher.
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>>158052
right, but they control for crime rate and a bunch of other variables:

>We include a set of municipal- and county-level variables meant to capture other determinants of fines that may also be related to percent black population: local finances (total local revenue, share of revenue from taxes, share of revenue from state and federal), demographics (log population, log population density, income per capita, share with a college degree, share over 65), and county-level characteristics (crime per capita, police officers per capita,share Democratic vote in 2012, number of governments per capita, net migration).

>We summarize the results in Table 1, including the full results in the Online Appendix. In all specifications, the point estimates on percent black population are statistically significant: the estimates range from 1.2 to 1.5, and the smallest t-statistic is 18. Because log-log coefficients are difficult to interpret (and more so when one of the untransformed variables is a proportion), we translate the coefficients to dollar amounts in the footer (we describe the procedure for transforming the coefficients in the Online Appendix). Substantively, the estimates imply cities with the largest black share residents collect between 14 and 19 dollars more, per person, than cities with the smallest black share of residents.

(pages 4 & 5)
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Shhh~~~ don't post it out,
it's secret form of slavery.
Since those liberal leftest won't stand for slavery with their corrupted moral sensibility, how do you get away with not paying the blacks, u pay them then charge them the same amount that they get paid.
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>>158057
>Blacks commit more crimes
>More likely to commit crimes
>Police see this
>They adjust their recouces appropriately

Seems logical
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If tomorrow every single Nigger vanished from existence. Would earth be better or worse?
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>>158113
If you look at it in a non-racial lense you could say

"What if the offspring of single parent households with low education living in a garbage, violent driven culture and have zero ethic to work or be productive" disappeared tomorrow.

And the left will blame all those things on racism, of course. But the black community was on the upswing prior to the war on poverty. Welfare destroyed the black community.
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>>158124
It sounds like you're advocating the annihilation of social welfare programs and replace it with the purge.
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Most African Americans also collect large benifits from the state, they are just paying their share.
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>>158026
Well the blacks have to pay into the system somehow. They sure as shit aren't paying taxes.
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>>158061

Spoiler Alert: Democrats were pro-slavery
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>>158124
>But the black community was on the upswing prior to the war on poverty.

Romanticization of our history needs to stop.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2013/08/ratio-of-unemployment.png

Until the 1960s, black citizens didn't have any representation in government. This is a society where socioeconomic status is inherited. Without social programs, you're essentially telling their community, yeah, you were institutionally discriminated against, and you've inherited some of that disparity, but that's not our problem. In fact, it's everyone's problem,. A level playing field means a more meritocratic society which to some extent translates into a more competitive economy.

Of course we should argue about what we should do and how much we should do it to accomplish that, but really it hardly even matters when talking about social programs. Social programs don't exist for black citizens, they exist for all citizens that are at risk of losing a minimum dignified standard of life through no fault of their own. There are occasionally bums but it's not the majority. In some states, one third of the population is on medicaid. States like New Mexico where Trump won by a significant margin. But you can't punish all of the poor and threaten the middle class for the bums. We can work the develop cost effective solutions to identify and curb abuse when it does happen.

Not living in abject poverty doesn't encourage people to have children; the birthrate of blacks has been on a gradual decline for a long time now in step with that of whites. Scrapping social programs just punishes children that already exist and risks contributing to generational poverty.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db216_fig1.png
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>>158310
>The factual truth needs to stop

Posts leftist propoganda
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>>158057

>the dollar amount for comparable fines tend to be substantially higher.

Bullshit. Just like the claim about sentencing, there's literally no fucking way they could've attributed for every factor involved.
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>>158313
I'm not so far on the left as you think. Single parent households needs to stop in communities that are underperforming. We should look for ways to curb population growth in those communities, I just don't think gutting social programs will do it or is a justifiable way to do that.

I liked Charles Murray's suggestion that divorced mothers lose all rights to child support and divorced fathers lose all rights to the children.
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>>158310

Tyrone is a fuckup because of black culture.
His nigger father couldn't be bothered to stick around (70% illegitimacy rate) and getting an education is seen as "acting White."

Niggers and spics have nearly identical poverty rates (23.2% vs 25.8%,) yet niggers commit violent crime (murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault) at TWICE the rate of hispanics.
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>>158318
Welfare allowed black mother's to raise children out of wedlock. There is a bold drop in black marriages after the war on poverty began. Washington Post is garbage, not credible in any sense.
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>>158317
No half intelligent person is suggesting the difference is because most white people on city councils are racist against black people. Maybe there is some stereotyping which even blacks do. But it probably warrants some further investigation.
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>>158320
The data in the chart is from US census stats. Washington post might lean left (center with respect to any other developed economy) but they're generally no tin the business of plain fudging data.
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>>158320
We're a consumption based economy. Our economic growth is most robust when we're enabling the poor and working class social mobility to find their way into the middle class. Investing in protecting our working-class gives us the greatest bang for our buck in terms of long-term macroeconomic interest. Retribution against the occasional bum hardly warrants relegating the majority, many of whom just hit a hard spot in their life, that are legitimately being protected to abject poverty.
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>>158026
The problem is two fold:
1) Blacks commit more crime thus get fined more often.
2) Police are forced to find alternative means of funding in low income areas thus must issue tickets more often.

Poor + Black = Lazy + Nigger
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>>158329
see:
>>158057
>>158059
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>>158329
And BLACK + GUN = MUGGER
They earn more than enough from mugging and stealing from ppl, it's about time they give some back
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>>158319
>>158325
Go to Hell Capitalist Pigs.
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>>158352
Get fucked
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>>158356
You first Koch Cock Sucker.
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>>158358
Have fun licking Soros butthole you commie cuck nickle stuffer
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>>158026
Oh look! Democrats are totally evil.

No surprise there.

That left. That evil, evil left. At it again.
It's incredible how one party can be closer to saturday morning cartoon villains than actual politicans.

Just remember. The right is RIGHT for a reason.
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>>158319
Black men = 6% of US population
Black men = 58% of US murders
Black men = 60% of US assaults
Black men = 60% of US robberies
Black men = 48% of Rapes
Black men interracial breeding = 8% legitimacy rate

Blacks love pretending that they're not the source of all the US' problems, yet physically removing a mere 6% of our population would result in a 60% drop in all crime.
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>>158381
Well, the problems of black males do penetrate deeper than we expected
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>>158131
With thousands of shootings already this year in Chicago alone it's practically The Purge already.
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>>158398
You mean it wasn't one before?
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>>158050
This.
People tend to forget blacks commit the most amount of crime, as represented by the prison population demographics. I used to foolishly believe that racism was so wide spread in our country but the real problem is even more systemic, Welfare, or rather welfare that you qualify for and not everyone can receive, Privileges.
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>>158026
School to Prison Pipeline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FCGUaOKRks
And the Loophole that Created it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V66F3WU2CKk&t=1s

And these are the conspiracies that Niggers Latch on to; that they're herded to undesirable conditions and been systematically pushed to the life of crime so that they can use them for forced labor in Prison.

So try to debunk this conspiracy theory while claiming that the loophole that only criminals can be slave is abolished (oh wait, you FUCKING CAN'T).
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>>158198
Alcohol and tobacco are taxed but re income tax but yeah on average not net contributors
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>>158318
It is a start but if we are going that direction I would push for mandatory birth control for anyone on any form of public assistance and sterilization for any on disability
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>>158476
Why would I try to debunk it when I actually approve of it? We just need to speed up the process. A murderer per life sentence isn't good enough, especially when >>158381
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>>158493
We tried giving blacks free reign before and the history of Liberia is fascinating. Sucks that the plantations are still running bit would rather not have a general butt naked in my city
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>>158398
Haven't you even watch the last 2 films?
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>>158493
Are you KKK?
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>>158501
You don't have to be in the klan to hate Niggers. You just need two working eye balls.
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>>158503
So you're a racist?
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>>158506
Of course I am.
Everyone can see there are difference between the races. Some are just too afraid to acknowledge them because they are oversocialized faggots.
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>>158509
That's all I needed to hear.
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>>158512
Commisar the cultural revolution called and they want their fake as fuck thought crimes back
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>>158521
As if niggers should be killed off along with all of those useless savages.
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>>158530
Not "should". They MUST be killed off, if humanity wants to survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfAVacajo6M
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>>158532
Looks like you went full edge.

The "day of the rope" will never come.
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>>158352

Big words from such a little bitch. How about giving me your home address so that I can come cure all your nigger loving ills, kike?
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