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New Florida law lets any resident challenge what's taught

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Any resident in Florida can now challenge what kids learn in public schools, thanks to a new law that science education advocates worry will make it harder to teach evolution and climate change.

The legislation, which was signed by Gov. Rick Scott (R) last week and went into effect Saturday, requires school boards to hire an "unbiased hearing officer" who will handle complaints about instructional materials, such as movies, textbooks and novels, that are used in local schools. Any parent or county resident can file a complaint, regardless of whether they have a student in the school system. If the hearing officer deems the challenge justified, he or she can require schools to remove the material in question.

The statute includes general guidelines about what counts as grounds for removal: belief that the material is "pornographic" or "is not suited to student needs and their ability to comprehend the material presented, or is inappropriate for the grade level and age group."

Proponents of the new law say it makes the challenge process easier for parents and gives residents a greater say in their children's education. And state Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Naples, who sponsored the bill, told Nature in May that his intent wasn't to target any particular subject.

But Glenn Branch, deputy director of the National Council for Science Education, said that affidavits filed by supporters of the bill suggest that science instruction will be a focus of challenges. One affidavit from a Collier County resident complained that evolution and global warming were taught as "reality." Another criticized her child's sixth-grade science curriculum, writing that "the two main theories on the origin of man are the theory of evolution and creationism," and that her daughter had only been taught about evolution.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-florida-science-school-law-20170702-story.html
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"It's just the candor with which the backers of the bill have been saying, 'Yeah, we're going to go after evolution, we're going to go after climate change,'" that has him worried, Branch said.

Based on the affidavits, it seems likely that the law will also be used to request the removal of library books that parents find objectionable.

The Florida statute is one of 13 measures proposed this year that Branch and his colleagues consider "anti-science." In Idaho, the legislature rejected several sections of the state's new public school science standards related to climate change - the standards committee was asked to rewrite those sections and resubmit them for approval this fall. Alabama and Indiana both adopted nonbinding resolutions on teacher's "academic freedom," which are generally understood as encouraging educators to "teach the controversy" around subjects like climate change.

"Whether it be evolution or the argument about global warming, we don't want teachers to be afraid to converse about such things," state Sen. Jeff Raatz, R-Centerville, a supporter of the resolution, told Frontline.

Similar measures in other states didn't make it into law, "but a number of them have advanced farther than we really expected," Branch said. He called 2017 "a busy year" for this type of legislation.

In Florida, a group called Florida Citizens for Science urged people keep an eye on challenges to school instructional materials in the coming year.

"At this point the fight is at the local level," the group's communication director, Brandon Haught, wrote in a blog post. "If you're not there and willing to stand up for sound science education, then we're done."
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>>154333
Are they afraid the teachers will need to defend what they teach? If the evidence is so strong for their side of the argument, it should be a simple matter to prove it. The idea that a person who does not have a child in the system is a bit fucked though.
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>>154337

Yeah, These things are always worded to sound innocuous.

The glaring problem is they always include gargantuan loopholes for whatever special interests they're satisfying. Neither a child, nor a random assortment of parents, nor a primary or even secondary school science teacher, nor the members of a school board are necessarily qualified by themselves to decide the contents of a competent science curriculum of a classroom. In fact, they're usually not.

If all the above parties are in agreement that teaching the geological history of Earth without a side of creationism is objectionable (and about 45% of Americans believe the literal description in Genesis it true), the parameters defined in this legislation for removing that from the curriculum do not at any point necessitate approval from a qualified scientific authority.

The only criterion for challenging an element of the curriculum of a science class should be non-conformity to independent scientific consensus. If you disagree with that, the proper avenue for challenging it is to do research and get published in a reputable, peer reviewed journal.

There are plenty of retarded right wing groups that are more than happy to find ways to challenge the teaching of something "because globalism" and of course that's exactly what's going to happen.
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>"is not suited to student needs and their ability to comprehend the material presented"

"Mah boy can't understand that evolution hooey cause I raised him to be a retard like me."
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>>154337
Clearly you have never talked with a person hyped up on X religious belief or even science quip. Facts, charts, etc will not stop their complaint if it goes against their bias or upbringing.

Its like trying to win a 4chan argument.
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>>154333
First the Kentucky governor putting the Bible back in public schools and now this.

Well at least our crazies are doing this instead of cutting off heads, I'll give them that.
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>>154538
>hey this political thing sucks
>HURR FUCKING LIBTARD SHILL SHE LOST!!

pretty much the argument when you go against like this. The only thing trump brought in was that it's ok to be a fucking idiot
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>>154434
This. Anyone who thinks that any average American, much less a Floridian, is capable of critiquing complex scientific theories beyond "but muh Bible" has either never met our countrymen or is a retard themselves.
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Questioning things is good, even if it doesn't fit your echo chamber. I don't believe the Bible is true but it is a part of our culture and if they want to question it fine....let's really explore what is a fact and what is just written by someone and presumed to be fact. I think it will not pass the turing test :)
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>>154700
The bible deserves equal status as a math textbook. Both should be considered in the classroom.

"Presumed fact" means fiction.
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>>154744
>The Bible should be viewed the same way as a math textbook
Most retarded thing I've seen here in a while. The Bible was written thousands of years ago by a bunch of dipshits that most likely wiped their asses with their hands. Nothing in the Bible can be verified, and most of it goes against the laws of nature (Lazarus, Moses parting the seas, et cetera). Math books are based entirely on facts that can be verified
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>>154333

>parents want to have a say in what their children learn
>t-this is bad, goyim! d-don't do this! l-let me brainwash them!
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>>154788
What would you like to be taught? That man made climate change isn't real? That a wizard in the sky created the Earth, and everything else?
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Thanks for pointing out my clever way of calling the Bible fiction. Now put the rope around your neck and stand on that stack of bibles while I kick them out. I'm tired of you standing in front of me at the checkout line, I have real things to do.
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>>154810

>What would you like to be taught?

That what you make with your own hands is your own and anybody who tries to take from you gets met with the rope.
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>>154810
>What would you like to be taught?
Wives should submit to their husbands, for the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior.

Oh, and that beating of slaves is acceptable (Luke 12:47-48)
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The religious community trying to distort education is a valid concern, but my mind goes to the intersectional hard-left wackos trying to fuck with biology first
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