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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-spontaneous-protest-2017-story.html

It turns out Trump, a president loathed by Democrats, is a far greater spur to liberal activism than the revered Barack Obama, a former community organizer who hoped to inspire a wave of officeholders and Democratic idealists. Instead, he presided over the hollowing-out of his party.

“In November last year, being a politician was the last thing I would have ever, ever, ever intended to do,” said Kellen Squire, a 32-year-old emergency room nurse in central Virginia, who, helped by Litman’s group, is waging an uphill fight for a seat in the state House of Delegates. “But I saw whatever was going to come down the pike was going to be so jacked up, I wasn’t going to just take it. I had to stand up, yell, scream and holler.”

A group calling itself the Resistance Media Collective has assembled 200 animators, graphic designers, videographers and other volunteers to live-stream anti-Trump protests and produce materials such as a cartoon brochure titled “A Preparedness Guide for Undocumented Families.”

Its tips, in English and Spanish, include finding a U.S. citizen to act as a child’s legal guardian and advice on navigating the court system. “Our goal, very very simply, is to amplify the resistance,” said Kathryn Jones, 48, a former actress in New York City and one of the group’s leaders.

“It’s not a Bernie thing or a Hillary thing or an Obama thing,” said Alex Wall, a Democratic communications strategist and one of dozens of volunteers working together to help the anti-Trump opposition hone its message and broaden its reach on Facebook, Twitter and other social media. “It’s about speaking with one voice.”

More important is grooming a stable of newcomers who can step up years from now to run for governor or U.S. Senate.

Or the ultimate post-Trump fantasy: “A 2032 presidential candidate who started with us.”
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>>152673
> the Resistance Media Collective has assembled 200 animators, graphic designers, videographers and other volunteers to live-stream anti-Trump protests and produce materials such as a cartoon brochure titled “A Preparedness Guide for Undocumented Families.”

Literally aiding and abetting criminals.

This is no longer a game. The liberals are actively working day and night to turn this nation into a Socialist dictatorship hellhole.


If this nation is to survive, we have to declare them terrorists, round them up and shoot them.
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>>152675
Better watch you don't cut yourself on that edge kid
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>>152685
You guys need a new line. The "edge kid" has gotten a little dull.
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>>152686
Better watch yourself on that spheroid, young adult.
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>>152673
Love builds bridges.
Hate moves mountains.
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>>152673
>if we keep calling ourselves the Resistance it'll become true
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>>152675
>If this nation is to survive, we have to declare them terrorists, round them up and shoot them.
Lol, no, that's to quick. For their crimes, they deserve something worse. Hitler didn't just gas people, he had them slowly tortured and whittled away until they were nothing, than he killed them. Also, back in medieval times, they'd cut up corpses of traitors and display them in public squares to scare the rest of the population. It might be time to bring back such practices. KEK wills it.
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please leftists. please continue be aggressive in pushing your stupid Marxist ideas. that way you will look even more stupid than you are right now when we on /pol/ debunk those ideas with simple high school economics and we here on /pol/ are going to win even bigger elections. I like how the "gold standard progressive" Bernie Sanders literally lost to Hillary Clinton even though they literally disagree with her on everything like wars overseas, corporate welfare, money in politics etc and I like how even though Bernie Sanders got his ass handed to him by Ted Cruz(one of the least liked politicians ever) on the healthcare debate according to all the polls yet libtard goons think the country is behind them and they can win elections. Libtards literally says Hillary needs to fuck off because she lost. Why doesn't they say Bernie Sanders need to fuck off after he lost? They says all the neoliberals came behind Hillary and they lost so they all should fuck off. Why not all the Bernie Sanders progressive or progressives fuck off since they didn't even make it past the primary? Just go google Generation Z(born 1996-2003) political affiliation. 84 percent of them are conservative. It's a ethnofash libertarian tsunami that will just make liberalism and globalism history.
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>>152820
>using buzzwords like marxist when they don't apply to this at all
>using shitty grammar while calling liberals stupid
>lol we on /pol/ are so darn smart
ok, bud
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Yeah Trump really drives the maniancs on the left into overdrive. Wheresd SJW before Trump were annoying, screeching harpys that might have had some good goals somewhere in their contradictory mind but went about it like naive children with an overinflated ego, they are now fullblown delusional lunatics that will lash out at everyone and even eat their own alive should they dare to voice criticism or wrongthink. Trump's victory must have really shattered their worldview and ego.
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>>152673
It succeed by bringing them out of the woodwork for the real rational people to kill them all like they should've done during the cold war.
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>>152867
edgy little cunt. you're as cringy as the fat sjw attack helicopters screaming for white cis male genocide
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>>152820

>Buzzwords: the post

Thank you anon, this whole tirade split my sides.

Also the Gen Z is hinging on the success of this current administration. Contrary to popular belief, political affiliation is decided by the success of what party controls the executive branch at voting age. A large bloc of right wingers stems from baby boomers witnessing a lackluster Carter presidency and a better Reagan/HW administration. Their children witnessed a faltering HW administration, a solid Clinton presidency, a failure of a Bush presidency, and a relatively solid Obama presidency, creating an utterly massive liberal leaning voting bloc called Millennials.

If this administration fucks up and creatives an inactive congress (already a dud in contrast to the 111th of the first 2 years of Obama) that is rife with disorganization, stagnation and inactivity, the Gen Z voting bloc (swayed mostly by sycophantic tirades like yours) will sway heartily liberal and will stay there if a Dem president looks better creating a 35-40 year voting bloc that votes Democratic, which is like 50% of the eligible voting population.

Also no matter how hard you try, no matter how hard you stomp your feet, the Republicans aptitude to sway further and further right is more or less a reactionary response to the country's own aptitude to sway left. More regulations, more leftist policies, all of which become harder and harder to take away as they become the status quo. Even with an Republican administration, you people will always lose.

Good bye, anon.
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I wasn't aware pol had a spokesmen better not tell them that they might get pissed off as for the rest of you you all need to get over the fact that Trump won and that he is going to do whatever the fuck he wants weather or not he cheated and got Russian hackers to help just come to grips with it and wait it out Trump will do something so stupid that everyone will call for his head you just have to wait be patient he will fuck this up
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>>152820
>>152741
>>152675
>>152865
i know this is an anonymous imageboard where people speak without thinking, but if you guys talk like that irl, people take you seriously. I've never met anyone like you in my life, but if I didd on a regular basis, and maybe in some places you guys are comfortable talking like that, but speaking of killing people who disagree with you would be absolutely unacceptable to me. What the fuck? We live in a civil society. No one is promoting violence here, much less mass murder. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>152887

These people are usually children.
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>>152891

Or 20 year olds that got abused by minorities in high school and have yet to come to terms with it.
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>>152887
>No one is promoting violence here
Yes, only black supremacists, radical muslims, radical feminists and SJW wanting to kill whitey/cops/men/heteros while they are being being protected by liberal scum so calling them out is political/social/professional suicide.
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>>152906
Yeah, it's surprising how they mask themselves in "empathy". Take Bernie Sanders for instance.

He never had balls despite encouraging violence.

Ever wonder why he looked like such a compassionate guy to everyone? It wasn't his big-government platform and his tax hikes into oblivion, as well as his fiscal proposals that would break the debt ceiling and send us skyrocketing into a $36 trillion debt! No, my friend, it's because he never confronted fully dissenting opinion!

It wasn't until the Town Hall debate against Cruzmissile that Bernie was confronted by foreign opinion, and that's when his "friendliness", "big heart", and "compassion" melted, and his "balls" shrunk up into his body. A small business owner was simply asking Bernie questions about the Obama admin's numerous regulations, which brought the private sector entrepreneur to his knees and made it hard for his ends to meet. Bernie completely dodged the questions he asked numerous times by getting angry and shouting about the multi-national corporations. He started rambling on about the evil rich harming the air and drinking water, and he started going bananas about his percentage point arguments.

But what never happens from the left is honest, intellectual, thoughtful conversation between liberals and a Conservative news-journalist. Sanders never called right-wing channels or networks, he was never interested in having a dialogue with Republican and Libertarian vloggers or alternative media gurus. Instead, he wanted to remain in his dated Socialist echo chamber, yelling about how he plots to milk the U.S dry and run away with a phat check - sort of like when he did that very thing with his failed campaign, and his wife did with the University of Vermont: let it fail, and take home the remains.

Get over liberalism. Their textbook Socialism and mediocre policies have crushed our economy and left us vulnerable to terrorism. We need to preserve our white culture and fend off external threats.
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>>152906
>>152910

http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381
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Why the fuck are Americans so fat?!

IF they're activists why don't they get active and hop on a treadmill?
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"Tourist Guide'

Tourist Guide:
"Folks, here you see Two Fat Americans"
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>>152834

>using buzzwords like marxist when they don't apply to this at all

I'd say newspeak absolutely fits. They're illegal aliens. Not "undocumented Democrats" or whatever your faggot kind call them these days.
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>>152941
That would not be worth pointing out. It would be like going to tokyo and your tour guide says "here you see a slanty-eyed asian... And another slanty-eyed asian to your left"
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>>152820
>we on /pol/

LOL, like /pol/'s capable of anything but being an echo chamber for a bunch of stupid assholes pissed off because their ideas about racial superiority and the like are being ground to dust under the wheel of history.
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>>152820
So, let's take our political marching orders from a goup aged 14 to 21? Are you fucking retarded...? Oh, wait, no, you're a goddamn child, and based on the spread of your beloved Generation Z there, probably unable to vote anyway. Fuck off back to /pol/, it's why we MAKE containment boards.
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>>152910
I'm going to preface this with the fact that I tend to hate the media, but follow the news from all sources, because I as an individual am concerned about the ways bias can influence my thinking. I don't want either flavor of Kool Aid. That said, I'm sorry, but I have yet to see a conservative journalist do anything but ask questions, then interrupt and start yelling when their opponent tries to respond. I've heard many a patient liberal journalist sit there while some right-winger spews shit at them, though. Tell me, do you even WATCH the news?
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>>152673
You know, I keep hearing about how rightwing dictators were merciless killers and why that completely outweighs their success, but then I look at the victims and it's always radical leftists (with collateral damage).
I'm pretty sure there will be political massacres soon in the USA and it will be caused by Liberals becoming more and more radical, until they're an immediate national threat.
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>>153139
Wait... you mean radical dictators go after people who disagree with them?

Holy fuck, why are you wasting your genius on 4chan, you could be changing society with your brilliance!
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>>153140
No, I mean radical dictators did not give a shit until the other party started threatening national security.
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>>153141
Lol, so dictators engage in abuse for the security of the state, not to maintain their own power? Wow.
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>>152906
It seems to me you don't talk to people much, because those boogeymen are hard to find. They get media attention, but go look for them. they're hard to find, and much less easier to find one who can give you a salient point to think about. I guess I have a natural bias, but when a movement gets this big I always assume someone wise has an important point to make, and less intelligent people are just connecting with it without being able to properly argue why. It's unfortunate, but it really just means you have to do the work of finding the eloquent people who are able to describe their point of view in a clear way, without bullshit.

I think this is why people respect politicians like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. Without being detailed, they can both reach the the root of their supporters concerns with minimal effort, and it's not just rhetoric.

Bernie (and Elizabeth Warren too) speaks very directly about income disparity issues in America. That barely scraping the surface of the problems of our modern capitalist system by stating the most general statistic about it possible should make everyone alarmed. It's a bipartisan issue. Income disparity can destroy America. It needs to be reduced. The democrats in general are also the only ones acknowledging things like climate change and social justice issues as they currently exist, things that the republicans are in total denial of. Regardless of your opinion, the popular opinions, educated or otherwise,it not the same. This works against the republicans.

Trump Speaks naturally an openly without restraint, something that modern political discourse has seriously discouraged for the past few decades, especially recently. I come from the country, and I know for sure that most of the modern political discourse is coming from a cit perspective. I'm lucky that I am educated enough to understand the importance of trying to fix social injustices, be they economic, domestic or otherwise. TBC
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>>152910
And then you have Republican politicians who LITERALLY bodyslam journalists who ask inconvenient questions. Yes, this actually happened, and everyone reported on it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html

Not only did Gianforte get off with nary a slap on the wrist, he actually won the special election to become a member of the US House of Special for Montana's congressional district. And to grind the salt in the wound, he received thousands of dollars in donations- well over the amount he donated to compensate the assaulted journalist- and kudos from Trump with no reprimand for his conduct at all.

Do you still have the gall to accuse 'liberal' politicians, whatever that snarl-word means to you, of bullying, when they have neither advocated nor carried out anything remotely resembling such violence (and no, I don't recall Sanders supporting radical BLM activism or the Antifa)? Regardless of politics, do you think this should be the standard of behaviour for any politician, let alone a Republican one? Or does might make right only when it's a Red fist breaking Blue faces? Please, show me your standards.
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>>153170
But it's unfair to expect people coming from a small community to understand what the heinz 57 genders are all about. All I wish is that Republicans would focus more on treating people with more respect. That's really all the left wants. Anything beyond that is a matter of debate (besides climate change), but for fuck sakes, even if you can't understand it, be you from a ghetto, trailer park or a fishing village like me, you should be able to understand how to accept people for who they are regardless of how they ask you to treat them. I had a neighbour who thought he could talk to the ghost of Bjork. He was a cool guy. He taught me a lot about life. I currently have a friend who identifies as agender and asks to be named Melissa, despite being named Zachary by their parents. You know what? It's not fucking hard to respect. I don't have an existential crisis about it. I have a good friend.
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>>153172
When one's political philosophy has degraded to the empowerment of the rich elite at the cost of national welfare, I would say that rules out respect/empathy for others by default.

Republicans nowadays can ill afford compassion or honesty. Their ideology demands inordinate selfishness. Their party demands unswerving loyalty. Their backers demand unquestioning obedience. Defiance of one is a 'betrayal' of all three, as many former Republicans have found out at dear cost. However, the excesses of our current President may change that.
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>>153178
>When one's political philosophy has degraded to the empowerment of the rich elite at the cost of national welfare

Perfect description of the Democrats. Just look what they have done to Illinois. Commie teachers with their Commie teachers Union are giving themselves 400k a year pensions while the state is literally unable to keep the lights on.

I say we drag those Commies out of their houses and hang them.
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>>153183
>>153178
Both you guys are right; both parties are more interested in backing up rich elites than the rest of us. Dems through shit like the TPP and rampant globalism/neoliberal economics, Republicans through gutting regulations, cutting corporate taxes, and generally making life easy for the big guys.
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>>153183
I never said the Dems were angels. Politicians on both sides do a lot of things to gain influence, including pushing impractical policies.

Still, they are far better at understanding give and take and thus benefitting their constituents, and actually plan for the future. Can you say the same for the other side currently scheming to gut healthcare and the EPA, decisions that will screw the entire nation in its collective ass for years to come, for a quick buck from their lobbyists?

And speaking of Communists, guess who Russia voted as their most important person in history. The Russian bear is still alive, and as spiteful as ever; why, then, are our conservatives so eager to cuddle up to it?
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>>153189
This. That's why Bernie got Caesar'd by Hillary; the party couldn't have a rabble-rouser like him disrupting the status quo. Too bad they didn't realise a Trump presidency suited the elites just fine as well.
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>>153191
You want Bernie? Go to Venezuela.
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>>153190
Dude... I grew up in Reagan's America, by conservatives. Creeps me the fuck out to see the right pull this 180 on Russia.
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>>153190
>why, then, are our conservatives so eager to cuddle up to it?

Because Europe has gone insane with the whole immigration policy. What a fucking disaster.

>gut healthcare

Do you realize that the bill was a massive payout to insurance companies?

Ideally people would eat healthy and save up for medical emergencies. Ideally.

Instead we've told them shit like the food pyramid, "fats and cholesterol are bad", "Bread is good", etc.

You could literally fix the cost of healthcare by bringing a high-fat high-protein low-low-carb to schools.

Instead the medical complications they develop happen in the millions and the cost of treating people is socialized. Which just encourages more bullshit.

>EPA

I have no strong feelings one way or another.

What's going to screw the nation is sex dolls and boutique genetic engineering.

>Wow, lets have women compete with men for the same jobs
>That sounds fantastic.

So much goddamn stupidity and willful ignorance of human nature.
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>>154109
CONT.

"But this healthcare bill sucks as well..."

Healthcare bills suck period. We limit the number of doctor's (via AMA) to keep their salaries at a relatively stable level.

We give money to a private bureacracy to manage. Because we assume that a majority of health problems affecting society are inevitable. As opposed to being things with build up cumulatively over time.

Old men don't look skinny fat because it's inevitable. They look skinny fat because they haven't worked out or done physical things. Which means they develop sarcopenia instead of stopping the breach by weight lifting.
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>>154109
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Do you realize that the bill was a massive payout to insurance companies?

Subsidies didn't simply go to their profits. How do you expect to pay for preventative care for people? Insurance companies won't do it if the law simply demands it. They'll leave the business because it doesn't make business sense for them to serve patients whose cost of care will exceeds their premiums. Since Republicans wouldn't tolerate the idea of a public option, the only possibility was to accomplish this through private insurance companies.

>Ideally people would eat healthy and save up for medical emergencies. Ideally.

We're not crafting legislation to serve an ideal society, we're doing it for the country and people that exist, and pretending otherwise doesn't make the country more ideal.

>Ideally people would eat healthy and save up for medical emergencies. Ideally.

How do you save for preventative care that costs more in a year than most Americans earn in a year? ost people who need it can't do it, and before the ACA we didn't have comprehensive health insurance that was affordable to most Americans. Insurance companies could do whatever they wanted, so if you got sick and had to change jobs or move and thus needed a different policy, you were generally fucked, compounded by the fact that a large portion of low risk individuals were disincentivized from buying enough coverage to protect them in catastrophic circumstances since emergency care (and arbitrarily only emergency care) could be fully taxpayer subsidized for the poor, and for the very rich it made more sense to simply pay out of pocket than pay regular premiums.
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>>152673
that have yet to win any elections or out raise the gop in funding drives.

All they can do is march around like cows and pigs and those marches are getting smaller and sadder.

You guys blew your load, your resistance is fizzling.
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>>152675
No need to, these liberal movements always destroy themselves.
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>>152891
The youngest idiots are usually leftists.
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>>152913
there is no right wing terrorism.
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>>153031
Pol is 4chan.
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>>154116
>Subsidies didn't simply go to their profits. How do you expect to pay for preventative care for people?

The cost of medical care is artificially inflated by mostly the fucked up system we have.

Person A gets treatment for broken balls. He goes to Hospital B and complains about his broken balls. A says he has insurance. Let's ignore person A for now.

A secretary, for let's say...Blue Shield, gets an invoice from Hospital B for the medical care given to one of their policy holders. She gives the invoice to her boss.

Her boss has an important role: Determine what sounds like a "fair" price for treatment. Which effectively means he tries to cut the bill down as much as possible. Also notice that insurance requires employment for these two. Cost being spread through policy holders.

The boss goes through and marks down the figures listed in the invoice. He calls his secretary, who then blows him. A climax later, he hands her the newly marked down invoice. She cleans her face and goes back to the fax machine. She faxes it to hospital B.

Person A, in the meanwhile, has had good care. He's alright and hoping that his forced payments into medical insurance are finally paying off.
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>>154123
CONT.

Meanwhile, Hospital B gets the invoice back. Hospital B fumes at the mark down so they mark misc. shit up. Odd and End line items where presumably a price hike wouldn't look so egregious. They send their revised invoice back to Blue Shield.

Secretary brings it to her boss. An application of vaseline later, she leaves the boss' office and he has a smirk on his face. Until he reads the revised invoice. "Those motherfuckers!". So he makes his own changes.

This sort of retarded bargaining over prices continues. What it effectively means is that the cost of treatment is WAY overstated. But the government requires you to be a customer of an insurance agency. So you have to play your part in this fucked up vicious cycle.

Remember, this is what you're paying a premium before. For totally unnecessary shit.

Person A is glad his broken balls are fixed. But then he gets a bill because he has a percentage co-pay for broken balls. Person A manages to spend the same amount he would in a non-insurance system but the inflated value of treatments hides the robbery.

Instead of being able to save money and pay for a treatment at a fair price, he's stuck supporting parasites who do nothing but quibble over how much blood he has to give.
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>>154123
>>154128
CONT.

So you wanted "socialized" medical care. Without realizing that in practice, it means you spend more money for shittier service.

And this isn't going into how medical associations inflate prices further by limiting the supply of doctors that get "minted" every year.
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>>154117
>that have yet to win any elections or out raise the gop in funding drives.

When Obama was elected, we wanted an end to the necessity for for-profit private insurer middle men in healthcare, end to subsidies to fossil fuel industry, set in stone a transition to renewable energy, public infrastructure push, campaign finance reform, cut taxes to the working class and doubled down on corporate and capital gains tax. But even when Democrats controlled congress we saw only watered down policies in these areas, if anything at all.

Most of us are protesting against corporate democratic candidates as well, many of whom have the same megadonors and serve the same bankers. We don't think it's a coincidence that many of the democrats in congress stay conspicuously quiet regarding where their GOP competition gets their donations and where money is sent in their legislation.
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>>154123
>>154128
>>154131
CONT.


"How do you save for preventative care that costs more in a year than most Americans earn in a year? "

Preventative care is getting adequate exercise and eating a diet not made up by the government.

We squander untold billions of dollars because we treat medical conditions as inevitables, not as things that are preventable as symptoms of metabolic disorder, sarcopenia, dementia due to low zinc levels, etc.

We squander untold billions because our society doesn't like ripping egos. Instead of treating obesity, we treat the symptoms of obesity. Which is a vicious cycle which profits everyone but the taxpayer and the patient.
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>>154128

I understand your logic but I'd be surprised if the dysfunctional relationship you cite would be the only reason for the extraordinary price of care given that pharmaceutical and device companies can mark up their patented drugs so that their profit margins are 5000% and people will pay it because they can't vote with their dollar on a product they need to live.

When the demand for a product is determined by such an extraordinarily simple relationship like if X people have condition Y, then almost X people are assured to agree to go into bankruptcy paying whatever I ask, that seems to vindicate the logic of having insurance.

Even if you had a case where we got rid of the insurance middle man altogether, it's easy to conceive people will want peace of mind and just decide to pool their money so that those who encounter catastrophe don't have to declare bankruptcy, and then you're back in the same place.
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>>154140
>pharmaceutical and device companies can mark up their patented drugs so that their profit margins are 5000%

That was a ploy to force a renegotiation with hospitals. The news about that was media hype over fucking nothing.

That's not a good example if you're seeking to shift the blame to private companies, solely.

>then almost X people are assured to agree to go into bankruptcy paying whatever I ask, that seems to vindicate the logic of having insurance.

But medical providers aren't fucking evil. The fucked up system we have massively inflates the cost of care because it ends up being a fucked up triangle of patient ---> hospital -----> insurance ----> patient...

>it's easy to conceive people will want peace of mind and just decide to pool their money so that those who encounter catastrophe don't have to declare bankruptcy, and then you're back in the same place.

Not really. Because you ignore the true cost of providing something like that.

Medical care would be massively cheaper if nobody fell for the insurance scam.
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>>154148
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Or, what you don't understand about idealizing all forms of medical care as being a "right" necessitating government intervention.

A bureaucracy has a cost. That cost is higher than you expect. We hire people and for a $40-60K salary, the vet checks of $200 to homeless people.

Even giving away money costs money! But the point was that you're asking for the massive expansion of private bureaucracy for insurance, a massive expansion of bureaucracy in hospitals, and another expansion of bureaucracy in the executive branch to oversee this shit.


You wanted free healthcare and now you have three big bullies who will never tell you how much you're being fucked.
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>>154150

We hire people to give out welfare and for a starting 40k to 60k, they get the power to vet and give checks of $212~ to homeless people all day long.

Now you might have to hire twenty of them in a major city just for a single branch of the state welfare agency
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>>154148
>>154150
>>154151
CONT.

Another thing about mentioning that drug with a 5000% price hike.

Our cost of medical care is being hiked all the time.

Because in our current system, insurance companies and hospitals fight and haggle over the cost of care. Unfortunately for us, this point of equilibrium intersects at "FUCK THE PATIENT" avenue. This point might be reptitive but you have to understand that every insurance patient is paying for the three bullies to give him back some of his lunch money.

Another point was that a change in diet would be both
1. Massively cheaper
2. Actually prevent illnesses
3.Actually save resources wasted on people whose degradation was not inevitable.

You know how many old men would never settle for a fucking nursing home if only they weight lifted?
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>>154152

Your idea is quite creative, that the mere existence of insurance produces a dynamic where cost of preventative care spirals out of affordability for most patients is quixotic at best because the one societal benefit of a free market is that those doing the selling are incentivized to compete in improving their product and reducing cost. Yet before the ACA, simply having a free for all in private insurers didn't work. Returning to that isn't going to magically make a difference. So what would you do, outlaw private insurance?

>Because in our current system, insurance companies and hospitals fight and haggle over the cost of care.

Maybe that has some influence on cost of care but even if their negotiations were perfectly harmonious it probably doesn't help that I'm going to pay whatever the producer of pill X says if I don't wanna die an agonizing death and I'm going to pay whatever hospital X asks if I'm incapacitated and brought to the emergency room because it's the closest to me.

As far as change in diet goes, sure, let's do whatever we can to make Americans as healthy and competent as possible , you won't find any disagreement from me there. But we also can't legislate in the interest of a world that doesn't exist yet.
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>>154119

>84% of Gen Z is conservative!
>the youngest idiots are leftists

Pick one, faggot, unless you have to devolve to referring to literal toddlers to back up an argument.
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>>153189
>to
Established politicians ie McCain Clintons work for the same people, not US Kek international kek in the world but only rich elitest scum. Trump isn't a Repunlican or Democrat but a phenomena.
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>>153197
I know, right? Russians were always a boogeyman and it changed overnight. Dems didn't like Russia much either, but conservatives were way more outspoken about it.
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>>152700
>2017
>unironically being a piece of shit liberal swine
You really need to kys and stop wasting my air
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>>153030
Found the nigger
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>>152675
Agreed.

We need to declare all ghetto blacks outlaws. They do not desire protection from the state, so they should not be entitled to it. The same for illegals.
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>>154306
>tfw it's actually a wigger
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>>154309
Plenty of illegals gave their lives serving in our military.

I think we can afford to let an illegal child go to public school. Especially since if he ends up living here we benefit from not living among the poorly educated.
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>>154303
Why can't you laugh at yourself?
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