The Koch brothers launch campaign to pass President Trump's

>Although Koch opposes Trump's travel bans and questions the president's skepticism of free-trade policies, the head of one the country's largest industrial conglomerates has praised Trump for several actions since taking office, including his move to dismantle "unnecessary" federal regulations.

.....and it seems nobody cares that the lead funder of the GOP is up to no good.

>>141608
He's //ourguy//

>>141624
No he isn't.

>>141624
He doesn't give a shit about you

>>141624
Corporate shill

>>141427
>slash the corporate tax rate, reduce taxes for high-income earners and abolish the federal estate tax.
Im dumb
Why does any of this sound good

>>141674
It isn't

They wanted Tax cuts because it help them obtain more wealth and power without being forced into charity.

>>141674
It's only bad if you're a Liberal trying to steal the sweat off of the cream of the crop's head and give to the dregs once again.

>>141676
as if Marx is a conmen who wanted to kill the elites.

>>141625
>>141668
>>141672
You triggered because we got someone to counter your Soros?

>>141674
Something something free markets something something praise the invisible hand
>>141676
>trying to steal the sweat off of the cream of the crop's head and give to the dregs once again.
Nikola Tesla died in poverty while the fucking Kardashians have millions.
The only way capitalism rewards the "cream of the crop" in society is that it rewards those who are best at exploiting everyone else

>>141684
Communists don't follow Soros; Only Marx.

>>141608
Passing tax reform is good.

>>141674
Because those poel are have an absurdly high burden to pay.

>>141689
As long as it increase taxes for the wealthy sloths.

>>141696
They're not sloths and they deserve it.

>>141685
He should have had better business sense.

>>141698
Like they deserve their father's money.

They're parasites that leech off of the workers wage and way of life.

Go to Hell Capitalist Pig.

>>141699
Same for you you communist. If a parent passes on his wealth to his children, then it's his wealth to do so with. No body else has the right to tread on his property.

>>141700
And no one have the right to slavery, especially with wage slaves.

>>141702
Again, wage slavery is VOLUNTARY. The worker enters into an agreement with an employer. The worker is at fault for not better negotiating or not having a more competitive skill set.

>>141703
without wages, there's only death.

Do you see the point?

You're prostitute for life and soon the Wealth will own all the land on the planet if they're not stopped.

>>141704
>without wages, there's only death.
Of course, that's called incentive, which is what Capitalism is based off of.

>You're prostitute for life and soon the Wealth will own all the land on the planet if they're not stopped.
And the top are the smartest and most capable, hence the term Captain of Industry. They are the ones who matter, who steer the ship of humanity. The rest of us are just cogs in the machine that they operate. The world can lose a Joe the dogcatcher or Bill the plumber and there would move on, but to lose someone like Koch or Trump would send ripples across the world.

>>141705
You do realized that you compared Trump and Koch to Gods when their actions will damned all of humanity.

>>141700
>No body else has the right to tread on his property.
Property only exists because society allows it to. As Thomas Jefferson once said
>It is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all. It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By a universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common is the property for the moment of him who occupies it; but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society."
The purpose of a society is to benefit the people. If a society only serves to benefit a small few at the expense of the many then it is in the many's rational self-interest to change the workings of that society, which in this case would be giving the finger to the people who have hoarded the world's wealth.
>>141703
Having the option to work for less than your labor produces or starve is hardly voluntary. It can hardly be considered a fair agreement when one party has an absurd amount of leverage over the other.

>>141690
Like?

>>141705
This has to be a false flag

You cannot make this shit up

>>141625
good, you can keep him to yourselves

>>141705
>They are the ones who matter, who steer the ship of humanity.
And they're steering that ship off a goddamn waterfall. They've destabilized the middle east in order to enrich themselves by supporting far-right fundamentalists and starting constant wars with zero regard for the countless innocents killed as a result, while using the refugees fleeing from the chaos to promote far-right policies which benefit them in the west and drive down wages, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. These people got where they are by being fucking sociopaths who would sell their own mothers to make a buck. They've only been able to amass so much wealth and power because we as a society have allowed them to, and we as a society have every right to take it back.

>>141684
I don't care if they're rich, I care what their policies are

soros is a corporatist too but at least the dems are tempered with trying to find a happy middle ground between corporatism and securing the working class's standard of living.

repubs don't even bother to lie when called out on shrinking government in ways that hurt consumer protection or reduce the economic security of the working class. Their response is simply that people have a right not to be taxed or regulated outside of extreme circumstances, and if that concentrates wealth and harms the working class, that's just how it's got to be.

>>141711
>This has to be a false flag

>You cannot make this shit up

Well, considering that this
>https://mises.org/library/children-and-rights
is serious libertarian thought makes Poe's Law difficult to apply.

>>141674
With reduced taxes those people will bring their money back to the states. Which means they'll invest in businesses and companies to provide more jobs.

Catch being those jobs will mean shit to you if you aren't a well trained white collar already and the low blue collar ones will be done by illegals or robots. That does leave some service jobs though.

>>141684
I don't like Soros either because I don't like corporate money in politics, but I guess that doesn't fit into your black and white narrative of "If someone doesn't like Koch then they must be a liberal communist BLM faggot who loves the taste of Soros' cock"

>>141427

Thirty years of supply side economics has given us a system where in 2011 the top 20% own 93% of the nation's wealth. That means 80% of the population (of course, no one on 4chan, we're all rich and successful here) are fighting over the 7% scraps left to us by our wealthy corporate masters.

Currently, we have worse wealth inequality than India. I swear, the longer I live, the more I have to agree with George Carlin when he said his country was bought and paid for a long time ago.

>>141785
That's not bad when you consider that our GDP is tremendously higher then India, so 10% can sustain the lower income layers while the 90% is used to incentivize the job creators to do better.

>>141786

>'job creators'

You've drunk the Kool-Aid by using that Orwellian, Frank Luntz-created term. The issue a bit more complicated than just having a larger GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

But hey, feel free to believe that the masses are beholden to the true rulers in our quickly-evolving-into-an-oligarchy system. Fuck the proles, right my fellow inner party member?

>>141787
>PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF THINGS (nevermind average quality of life brought to you by American capitalism) WE NEED COMMUNISM

>>141787
If the effects or impact of your job is a 1000 times more then that of another, then you deserve to have 1000 times more then he does.

>>141792
On what?

Research?

Politics?

all they spend their wealth is on dubious things like luxuries and status.

>>141789

>t. Expert strawman debater

>>141805
It's not a strawman when that's the logical conclusion of your argument. Eat a ass.

>>141863

>A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

Uh huh.

>>141789
>(nevermind average quality of life brought to you by American capitalism)
0/10 argument, see me after class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6QAqU2KpaY

>>141874
>>141894
You make pretend arguments. Do you think your shitposts have protected the internet from my hate speech?

>This is what liberals actually believe

>>141895
Whatever, you capitalist pig.

I dare you to prove that Karl Marx is satan.

>>141896
http://horst-koch.de/karl-marx/

>>141897
https://www.schwarzreport.org/resources/essays/why-communism-kills

>>141896
Can you please stop with the pretend arguments on this board?

Honestly there's just not enough people lurking for it to matter.

I just don't want to starve to death. Geez.

>>141900
Not until far right discussions are banned from 4chan and /pol/ get reformed.

>>141895
>He thinks liberals are leftist
>>141896
>>141904
Stop false-flagging

>>141909
Stop defending the Koch Bros. Agenda.

>>141909
I know you're a liberal/leftist because your argument consists of pure pseudo-intellectual fronting

>>141911
And I know you're far right fascist that defends the hierarchy of capitalism.

>>141913
I'm just a patriot. My only agenda is America's well being.

>nut muh globalist agenda will be good for America

Nah, fuck off.

>>141916
hiding your partisan hackery under red right and blue is a insult to actual patriots

>>141916
Like the only thing that matters in these United States are the luxurious status of corporate kings.

Your ignorance proves that you support the slavery of the laborers and the theft of resources.

>>141918
Patriotism shouldn't be partisan, but it is.

When someone says, " I love America" you instantly know they're republican.

It says alot.

I don't like South America, or Europe, or Austrailia, or Asia, or even Canada. None of them understand liberty.

You don't get it either. Can't you just leave America alone?

>>141921
>my only agenda is America's well being

>HURR BILLIONAIRES WE NEED COMMUNISM

pls go away

>>141922
Which proves that you're as immoral as the fucking Nazis.

>>141924
Not until you adress the evils that are the Koch Bros.

>>141925
Loving America makes me comparable to a Nazi?

This just shows your contempt for America.

>>141926
Ok. They're evil and should burn in hell.

Now pls go away. I mean it pls just stop posting here.

>>141927
Accepting the Confederacy, the disenfranchise of indigenous people, and corporations Hijacking the government, is just as ignorant than a Nazi solder who fight for his nation for patriotism.

>>141928
And why are they're evil?

Simple: they created a dark network of lobbyists to turn these United States into a factory that spew out trivial products for unlimited wealth.

>>141929
>>141930
Wtf I hate liberty now

>>141932
Capitalism isn't Liberty;
It's Hierarchy by another name.

>>141798
So?

They can do anything want with THEIR wealth.

>>141684
this

>>141686
>Soros is a commie

>>141715
>dems are tempered with trying to find a happy middle ground
NO, they want to destroy America

>>141951
>They can do anything want with THEIR wealth.


this is something socialists and communists will never understand

>>141951
Quick question, are you some kind of monarchist?

>>141973
You mean Capitalism.

>>141971
I can't tell if you're serious or not considering he spent massive amounts of dosh trying to help destroy the soviet union, yet the /pol/yps believe he's behind some sort of "cultural Marxism" conspiracy

>>141973
wtf i love people trying to destroy the living conditions of millions of americans now

Buy gold before it's too late. Those taxes ain't just for welfare.

>>141764
>With reduced taxes those people will bring their money back to the states. Which means they'll invest in businesses and companies to provide more jobs
*Doubt*

>>141922

>Patriotism shouldn't be partisan, but...

Reality shouldn't have an ideological bent, but it does. And it's overwhelmingly liberal.

>When someone says, " I love America" you instantly know they're republican.

Uhm, no.
Now when someone says, "I'm a lifelong Republican," I instantly know they're a hypocrite, easily manipulated, or both. It's more than a silly coincidence that those screeching the loudest about "muh American libertee n freeze peaches" almost always know the least about it while the irony will always be lost on them.

Try harder, Koch sucker

>>141997
I used to be nrx, buy Moldbug got on my nerves after a while. But I do think monarchies offer a lot of stability because people know their place.

>>142063
Do you doubt our financial overlords?

>>142063
I'm running a business. I am selling 3000 widgets per month. I have enough workers to produce 4000 widgets per month. I will be laying off workers to increase my profit margins, regardless if my tax rate is 15% or 35%, or if my business has excess capital off shores or is in debt. Tax cuts and repatriation does not create jobs. We have tried it before. The excess capital winds up in the pockets of the business executives.

>>142065
You're just a liar

There's like nobody on this board. Who do you think you're manipulating?

>>142094
Noone.

I'm just here to make you look like an Idiot.

>>142103
Sounds funny, let me try.

>Noone.
Not a word, idiot.


>Idiot
idiot*

>>141674
Because it's the same shit that didn't work under Reagan and won't work now.

>>141764
>With reduced taxes those people will bring their money back to the states. Which means they'll invest in businesses and companies to provide more jobs.

I hear Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are also coming back to the States.

>>142074
So you're an authoritarian.

>>142094
do you think that the whole damn world is against you.

Face it, Capitalism Sucks!

>>142074
>But I do think monarchies offer a lot of stability because people know their place.
Does you ever get tired of the taste of other people's boots?

>>142390
>someone who is trained and groomed their whole life for power and leadership to best serve society

or

>some manipulative conman with a silver tongue elected to be ruler in some popularity contest

Hmmm...

>>142393
>someone who is trained and groomed their whole life for power and leadership to best serve society
>to best serve society
Do you seriously believe this shit? Because you might want to open a history book if that's the case
>>some manipulative conman with a silver tongue elected to be ruler in some popularity contest
Or you could just eliminate systems of hierarchy altogether. No gods, no masters.

>>142393
Ah yes, because Charles II of Spain was such a great king.

>>141684
You don't have him, he has you. Either by way of spin, or you're actually paid to shitpost like this.

Soc can someone explain to me how getting rid of the estate tax helps anyone here? The 4chan stereotype is a NEET. Are you trying to tell me you're all secret billionaires trying to leave the mansion to your kids?

>>142175
I'm holding a handheld computer. When I break it ill get another one. Capitalism kicks ass.

Not to forget, people live longer than ever. That's good right?

>>142408
No. Far right memelords just have corporate cock shoved so far down their throats that they can't hear anything other than the guttural grunting of their corporatist masters neocon trickle down cum talk and they're convinced it's reality.

>My family is the largest single contributor of soft money to the national Republican party. I have decided, however, to stop taking offense at the suggestion that we are buying influence. Now, I simply concede the point. We expect a return on our investment.

Why is this a bad thing?

>>142566
Post the full quote:

>"I know a little something about soft money, as my family is the largest single contributor of soft money to the national Republican party. Occasionally a wayward reporter will try to make the charge that we are giving this money to get something in return, or that we must be purchasing influence in some way.
In fact, shortly after this summer's historic budget agreement, some on the left began shopping a rumor that President Clinton was planning to line-item veto a provision that, they hypothesized, had been somehow sneaked into the agreement to benefit my family's company, the Amway Corporation.

>For a moment, the Democrats got very excited, believing they had an opportunity to claim that we bought access. It was all hogwash, and upon being confronted with the facts, they had to scrap their plan. I have decided, however, to stop taking offense at the suggestion that we are buying influence. Now I simply concede the point. They are right. We do expect some things in return.

>We expect to foster a conservative governing philosophy consisting of limited government and respect for traditional American virtues. We expect a return on our investment; we expect a good and honest government. Furthermore, we expect the Republican party to use the money to promote these policies, and yes, to win elections.

And no, it isn't. This is a war, and sometimes, you don't get to choose who's on your side. But these guys are bankrolling the conservative and alt-right movement because they genuinely want what's good for the US.

>>142568
But they're corporate excutives that believe in the fallacy of laissez faire capitalism.

>>142570
>fallacy of laissez faire capitalism.
If by fallacy, you mean the "most successful form of a peaceful bartering and trade system between people" then sure.

Words mean things.

>>142103
I hope you still feel bad about this post LOSER

>>142572
>If by fallacy, you mean the "most successful form of a peaceful bartering and trade system between people" then sure.
>
>Words mean things.
>>142573
>I hope you still feel bad about this post LOSER

Back to /pol/.

Actually, I hope they get rid of those fucking Nazi's and White supremacists from /pol/ and make it solely on Politics, like welfare and defense. The Day of Reckoning is at Hand.

>>142687
Only /pol/ can speak proper english?

>>142568
>We expect to foster a conservative governing philosophy consisting of limited government and respect for traditional American virtues. We expect a return on our investment; we expect a good and honest government. Furthermore, we expect the Republican party to use the money to promote these policies, and yes, to win elections.
Holy shit I think I unironically like the koch now

>>142691
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Koch_brothers

>>142692
They even fought the patriot act.

What the fuck, these guys are real Americans.

God damned media got me again.

https://apnews.com/c9989f28f153457fb66f440222363a0c/AP-Exclusive:-CEOs-got-biggest-raise-since-2013

>>142713
>liberals complaining about success once again

Do these communist ever get bored? Look, only a handful of human kind ever rises above trash/ These are the only ones who think, dream, and lead, and they are the ones making all the riches of this world. The rest of us are riding on their coattails. Nobody deserves life or comfort, they have to EARN it.

>>142722
You're definitely a fascist.

>>142137
>>142390
A responsible monarchy is probably better than even the best democratic republic

>>142813
You got to torture them too. You have to make them feel our hate, because death is too kind.

>>142822
Hatred is the God's greatest gift to humanity.
Hatred is our surest weapon.
Hatred steels our resolve.
Hatred enriches.

Enlightenment is a myth we do not need to understand in order to hate.

How can trump think lowering taxes for high income households and companies will help with anything except making the US national debt even larger?

>>142826
You cut handouts. Waste like social security, education, foodstamps, medicare, and subsidies shouldn't be provided by the federal government to begin with.

>>142722
Jesus Christ, are you a literal cuckold?
>>142781
t. Marie Antoinette

>>141674
Because rich people will be less likely to hide money overseas and more willing to invest into the US.
Also cutting down the goverment beraucracy is always a good thing.

>>141714
Fucking 5 star post

>>142891
Rich corporations and businessmen control the government and the solution is to stop choking them?

>>142900
No it wasnt, you lying communist.

>>142827
But then you're back to square one in terms of income. Why not maintain or raise taxes on high income households while cutting handouts?

>>142956
Yes it was, fascist pig.

>>143048
I'm a patriot, you filthy communist.

>>143050
You're A Koch cock sucker.

Deal with it.

>>143051
I learned in this thread that I probably agree with them. If I had billions, I'd donate millions to preserving America.

I used to think all donors were bad, but it figures that some rich people are decent folk. Grow up, would ya?

>>143054
It depends on who donating to whom, and what they want out of it.

Koch Bros. are the enemies of most Environmentalists, since they advocate the abolishment of the EPA and the Complete Privatization of land itself.

>>143059
Environmentalists are the enemies of mankind, so good. I literally love koch now wtf.

>>143059
>Koch Bros. are the enemies of most Environmentalists, since they advocate the abolishment of the EPA and the Complete Privatization of land itself.
Good. Maybe once all those stifling regulations are gone, industries can once again turn a profit.

>>143054
>I don't like money in politics
>unless it's benefiting my side
Right talks big patriot game till money is involved. Almost likea self righteous whore that talks about keeping herself pure before getting gang banged by tyrone and his crew for 20 bucks

>>143112
Like we've said before, politics is war, politics is life and death. Nothing is off the table and everything is justified so long as you win.

As /pol/ is fond of saying

>Democracy is like a bus. Once we get to our stop, we get off.

>>143115
Wow, you really ARE an Edgelord.

>>143119
Fuck off leftist

Your people are getting dissapeared allover Europe as the altright purge continues.

America will no longer be your socialist post-modernist safe space. The future is anarcho-darwinist!

>>143121
A true Edgelord of /pol/ everyone.

Next thing you know Edgelord will wait for the "day of the rope".

>>143123
Whatever. We won. We are in control. /ourguys/ run this website, and this country.

>>143124
Yep, Edgelord gone all out.

He's mad as fuck.

>>143125
Whatever. Just know that your the minority and the flow of civilization is against you and your so called enlightenment.

>>143126
Ha!

Next thing you know, he'll say Hitler did nothing wrong.

Holy shit did someone BTFO cletus?

>>143130
Not as much as you were BTFOd by Trump in November.

>>143131
Just accept that you lost France.

>>143126
Damn, you really are bad at this

what blows my mind is that people think that they are all wise enough to know how much money the best and brightest "should" make.

>>143112
My side is America. You just don't get it.

>>143186
Some of us are familiar with the concept of the Laffer Curve and how it applies to economics instead of just repeating "cut taxes!", sorry bruh

>>143215
You mean the Confederacy.

>>143234
YOU THINK I'M A RACIST?????

PLEASE TAKE IT BACK

IM SORRY IM SORRY YOU ARE RIGHT COMMUNISM IS SMART WE DON'T NEED FARMS

PLEASE DON'T THINK I'M A RACIST :[[[[[[[[[

>>143364
It's more than just racism and slavery.

It's founded by business tycoons whose political stranglehold depenedant on slavery.

The Civil War itself is a battle between the Federal Elites and the Oligarchs.

>>143414
Thanks! I learned a lot!

FUCK AMERICA YAY COMMUNISM

>>143439
What's it like to live in a world that lacks any nuance or degrees of difference at all other than the two poles of America and Communism that you live in? Is it nice and warm?