Russian Hackers Who Targeted Clinton Appear to Attack France’s

>On Tuesday, Trend Micro’s researchers plan to release their report detailing cyberattacks in recent weeks against Mr. Macron’s campaign — as well as members of Germany’s Konrad-Adenauer Stiftung, a political foundation linked to Chancellor Angela Merkel’s political party — in what appears to be the latest Russian effort to influence political outcomes in the West.

>The Kremlin scoffed at the report. Dmitri S. Peskov, the spokesman for President Vladimir V. Putin, said Monday in Moscow that “this all recalls the accusations that came from Washington and which are still suspended in thin air.” In remarks to Russian news media, he added that Russia had “never interfered” in foreign elections.

>But the report’s findings gave some credence to the “strong suspicions” voiced weeks before Sunday’s voting by Mr. Macron’s digital director, Mounir Mahjoubi, that Moscow was the source of what he said had been a barrage of “highly sophisticated” efforts to gain access to the campaign’s email accounts.

>Mr. Mahjoubi said in an interview Monday and earlier in April that he had no proof of a Russian role, but that the nature and timing of so-called phishing attacks and web assaults on the Macron campaign had stirred worries that Russia was repeating in France what American intelligence agencies say was a concerted effort to undermine Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

>“The phishing pages we are talking about are very personalized web pages to look like the real address,” Mr. Mahjoubi added. Anyone could easily think he was logging into his own email. “They were pixel perfect,” he said Monday night. “It’s exactly the same page. That means there was talent behind it and time went into it: talent, money, experience, time and will.”
...

>The goal was to obtain the email passwords of campaign staff members so a cyberattacker could lurk unseen inside an email account reading confidential correspondence. “If you are speed reading as you sign on, and everybody speed reads online, it’s something you might not notice,” Mr. Mahjoubi said. “For instance, it uses a hyphen instead of a dot, and if you are speed reading you don’t look at the URL.”

>Unlike the attacks aimed at Mrs. Clinton’s staff, those directed at the Macron camp, Mr. Mahjoubi said, failed to gain access to any email accounts used by the candidate or his lieutenants.

>This winter, the campaign’s website also came under attack. The attacks coincided with highly slanted articles about Mr. Macron on the French language services of Sputnik and RT, formerly Russia Today. Both are state-funded Russian news media outlets.

>The coincidence of the hacking of the Macron campaign website, the phishing attacks and the slanted articles caused Mr. Mahjoubi to consider that there might be Russian involvement. “That was only a supposition,” he said, based on the timing.

>Mr. Mahjoubi described the phishing attacks as the “invisible side” of an apparent Russian campaign to hurt Mr. Macron, while the “visible side” took the form of fake news or slanted stories in the French-language Russian media.

>Russia, or at least its state-controlled media, clearly favored Ms. Le Pen, who criticized European Union sanctions imposed on Russia after it annexed Crimea in 2014 and voiced support for Moscow’s intervention in Syria to prop up President Bashar al-Assad.

>The success of its cyberattacks in the United States has only bolstered the Russian hacking group’s ambitions, security researchers say.

>“This is the new normal,” said Tom Kellermann, a cyberintelligence expert and the chief executive at Strategic Cyber Ventures. “Geopolitical events will now serve as harbingers for these types of attacks.”

Ohh NY Timed. You're so adorable. Just keep pushing that narrative, guys.

>>135052
Great damage post there, Vlad.

>>135053
Straight from the article
>Mr. Mahjoubi said in an interview Monday and earlier in April that he had no proof of a Russian role,

>>135057
We've had proof for months, Vlad, try again.
>There are now multiple investigations going on in Washington into Trump campaign officials and Russia. They include the FBI-led counter-espionage investigation and probes by both the House and Senate intelligence committees…

>One source suggested the official investigation was making progress. “They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion,” the source said. “This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

>>135066
>One source suggested the official investigation was making progress.

So “proof” yet again consists of anonymous secret sources who provide zero evidence?

How fucking naive do you have to be, to _again_ believe the blatantly obvious narrative coming from the Left to explain why the People are no longer buying into their bullshit?

The French, just like Americans, are fed up with the globalist’s standard-operating-procedure of importing ever more third worlders into their country.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/21/shattered-revelation-clinton-campaign-hatched-russian-hacking-narrative-24-hours-after-hillarys-loss/
by JEROME HUDSON
21 Apr 2017

‘Shattered’ Revelation: Clinton Campaign Hatched Russian Hacking Narrative 24 Hours After Hillary’s Loss

The authors detail how Clinton went out of her way to pass blame for her stunning loss on “Comey and Russia.”
“She wants to make sure all these narratives get spun the right way,” a longtime Clinton confidant is quoted as saying.

The book further highlights how Clinton’s Russia-blame-game was a plan hatched by senior campaign staffers John Podesta and Robby Mook, less than “within twenty-four hours” after she conceded:

That strategy had been set within twenty-four hours of her concession speech. Mook and Podesta assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.

>>135081
Anonymous sources have been providing proof for hundreds of years, Anon. This country wouldn't even be here if Thomas Paine hadn't provided anonymous accusations against King George III in his pamphlet 'Common Sense'.

>actually quoting a sheitbart book review as though it refutes something that has been proven
Good luck with your damage control "narrative".

>>135083
> everyone.i.hate.is.a.russian.hacker.jpg

Again; NO proof has ever been provided, it’s all unnamed “sources” quoted by the Mainstream Media, who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

It’s literally “Bat Boy hacks Hillary’s cell phones!” tier nonsense.

>>135086
Again, we've had mountains of proof for months now, and it's not only been confirmed by multiple American sources but the intelligence agencies of several other countries as well.

You can keep sticking your fingers in your ears while shouting LALALALA and denying it more if you want but it just makes your argument that much weaker every time you do.

>>135087

Unnamed sources is not proof.

>>135087
If there is mountains of proof, why have there been no charges pressed or action taken? Seems like with all of that undeniable evidence you keep referring to it would be a slam dunk of a court case.

>>135088
Named sources just gives you someone to yell at, rather than the sky

>>135088
It's more than unnamed sources and it's more than unnamed actors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
Furthermore, it's more than just Americans the Russians have done this to.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-campaign-russia-colluded-us-election-disrupt-adam-schiff-democrat-house-intelligence-a7645361.html

>>135089
Because the investigation is ongoing.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-comey-testimony-htmlstory.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/us/politics/james-comey-election.html

>>135093
>>135091
Then why the FUCK did they come out and say the elections were hacked? They can't name their sources, and the investigation isn't over, so all they were doing by saying it happened was stirring shit up for no reason.

>>135094
Keep believing your breitbart book reviews instead of the MSM if you want, Anon, it's probably better for your mental health that way.

>>135093
Fair enough. Because you seem to have an inside track, how exactly did russia "hack" the election? What actions did they take beyond pointing out the ugly truth about one of the candidates? While severely partisan, does the action of revealing someone's secrets to the populace before an election remove all responsibility for the things they have done?

On a side note, what happened to all the women claiming sexual harassment by Trump. There were at least 10 and after the election mysteriously vanished in place of the hacking narrative.

>>135096
What? I'm talking about the sources >>135093 posted. They say the investigation into Russian hackers is ongoing. So, coming out to say that it happened before you put together the case is just irresponsible.

Not that it fucking matters, but I've never used Breitbart anything.

>>135097
Here's the copypasta version that gets posted every time some /pol/kid conflates "hacking the election" (voting machines) with the disinformation campaign Russia pulled off.

>Look at the vote totals in the rust belt states Trump won which put him over the edge:

>Wisconsin: 27,257 votes out of 2.9 million votes cast.
>Michigan: 11,837 votes out of 4.8 million votes cast.
>Pennsylvania: 68,236 votes out of 6.9 million votes cast.

>The margins are small enough to have been influenced by the russian propaganda. The margin is smaller than what all the third parties received (people who protest voted against both Hillary and Trump). If even half of Jill Stein's voters weren't influenced by russian propaganda and voted for Hillary instead in those three states then there would be 2 Clintons in the white house right now.

>https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/swing-state-margins/

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Wisconsin,_2016
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Michigan,_2016
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Pennsylvania,_2016

>>135093
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-campaign-russia-colluded-us-election-disrupt-adam-schiff-democrat-house-intelligence-a7645361.html

"Adam Schiff, who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, told US broadcaster MSNBC that there was evidence “very much worth of investigation”, but he refused to elaborate on what that might be.

“I can tell you that the case is more than that,” the California congressman said. “And I can’t go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now."

And fuck off for making me go to the link to find a quote showing that you're a moron...

>>135098
The difference between the pussy grabbing incident on the bus and the russian propaganda is that the bus incident actually happened. The problem is that both the bus incident and the russian propaganda were being repeated by the respective candidates.

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/trump-repeats-russia-fake-news-claims

>>135102
But I'm not the moron here, anon, you are, for living under a rock for the last few months.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

>>135100

"But... but unnamed sources said it was Russian hackers helping Trump?!"

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/

“Voting machines in more than one-third of all Detroit precincts registered
more votes than they should have during last month’s presidential election,
according to Wayne County records prepared at the request of The Detroit
News.

Detailed reports from the office of Wayne County Clerk Cathy Garrett show
optical scanners at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts, or 37 percent, tabulated
more ballots than the number of voters tallied by workers in the poll books.

Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan
Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas
said Monday.”

>>135039
Would be nice for a change if politicians would just be moral and upstanding, than a hack like this would yield nothing.

>>135100
I get what you are saying, but is this anything new in a globalized society? Is it unexpected that other countries have a vested interest in the next American president and will run their own campaigns to try and sway people? Hell, we did the same thing in the middle east, Asia and even in Russia. All of the anti Putin hit pieces put out before the Russian election should equate to the same level of inerference as what the Russians did in ours. If Americans can be so easily swayed by foreign propaganda we have bigger problems then what country is producing said propaganda.

>>135104
yeah, the audit was stopped when GOP state officials realized that Trump was down to an 11k lead and falling, but that truly is a conspiracy theory I don't have proof for.

What I DO have proof of is Russian interference in the election in general, through the selective release of separate opposition research documents done by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, which influenced voters based on false or misleading information. Oh yeah and emails. And not just 30000, more like 3,000,000.

>Six federal agencies have also been investigating possible links and financial ties between the Kremlin and Trump's associates, including his son in law Jared Kushner and advisers Carter Page, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone.[8][9]

>Several cybersecurity firms stated that the cyberattacks were committed by Russian intelligence groups Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear.[10] In October 2016, U.S. President Barack Obama used the red phone line to directly contact Putin and issue a warning to him regarding the cyber attacks.[11] Russian officials have repeatedly denied involvement in any DNC hacks or leaks.[12][13][14]

Oh and BTW the RNC and Trump's campaign was hacked too, the Russians just didn't release that stuff to Wikileaks like the did with Clinton.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/comey-republicans-hacked-russia/

>>135103
>https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

Do you even bother reading the articles you link?

> a source close to UK intelligence said.
> contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
> Another source suggested
> Spicer cited an unsubstantiated report on Fox News.
> Fox later distanced itself from the report.
> sources acknowledge
> One source called the British eavesdropping
> the source added

>>135107
>yeah, the audit was stopped when GOP state officials realized that Trump was down to an 11k lead and falling

ALL the suspect voting machines were in Detroit or a few other predominantly Black districts, the same districts that reliably vote Democrat every election.

If the court didn't stop the recount and thus the investigation, the full extant of election corruption in the U.S. would have been exposed to the American people and Dems sure as fuck don't want that.

>>135108
Now you're confusing the reaction to the story I was originally talking about on the part of Trump's administration with the actual investigation on the part of GCHQ.

Spicer claimed the British had evidence of Obama wiretapping Trump for nefarious reasons, not about Russian allegations.

>>135110

I'm not confused about anything, you're the one now trying to weasel out of your claim that Putin personally hacked the U.S. election and is now hacking the French election, for which there is absolutely no evidence.

>>135109
>ALL the suspect voting machines were in Detroit or a few other predominantly Black districts,
I don't think you realize that the GOP held state government long ago usurped local municipal control of Detroit's municipal government. They are literal figureheads now, with all of their actions subject to the approval of the "emergency manager" superintendent appointed by the republican governor of Michigan. (not that the Michigan State Government wouldn't control the final outcome of national elections in the state anyway) They did the same thing in several other Michigan cities (black areas, as you call them)

Here's a tl;dr explanation if you want:
https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/emergency-managers-cities-state-takeover

>>135111
I never claimed Putin personally hacked anything. That's just what Trumptards usually say when it's time to grasp at straws instead of accepting that this president wasn't legitimately elected.

>>135113
More to the point of the thread, the Russians are trying to do the same thing to the elections in France and Germany right now.

>>135112
>https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/emergency-managers-cities-state-takeover

The voting machines are controlled by (and stuffed by...) district officials in the city of Detroit, not state officials.

But you've had your ass handed to you throughout this thread are are already 0-2 with your links and clearly can't read past the headlines, so I won't waste any more of my time on you.

>>135115
That's good, go back to your hole of denial. I'll be here on the board with the MSM sources that blow your arguments out of the water.

>>135115
First of all you're acting like I made all this shit up. I'm not the one claiming Trump and his people did all these things, the intelligence agencies of the world are.

Second, if Trump's people weren't shady as all fuck then there wouldn't be anything for them to keep investigating for over a year now, but the fact that these world intel agencies are still investigating should tell you something besides "lol MSM libtards hate Trump!!1". Don't shoot the messengers.

wow these "Russia hacked elections" shills are pros at moving the goalposts

>>135121
As usual, the Trump apologist's deflection strategy is to accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing to start with. See Sean Spicer and the GCHQ allegations.

>>135125
I'm not a Trump apologist. I'm a neutral critic sick of people like you spamming conspiracies when there are more legitimate and provable criticisms to be made about the president's policy. It's people like your that are hurting your own cause by giving your opposition more ammunition to be sceptical and call you all msm brainwashed libtards

>>135126
hokay sure, please go ahead and deny the findings of the worlds intel agencies again. it's hilarious when you do.

>>135128
Are you implying that all world intel agencies are all forthright, altruistic, and infallible? For example, what about the "weapons of mass destruction" claims that everyone rips Bush
for?
Also, I'm not denying any "findings", rather it's not clear at all what these "findings" are

>>135131
>Are you implying that all world intel agencies are all forthright, altruistic, and infallible?
No more than I'm implying that multiple independent agencies in independent investigations which all find the same thing about Russian meddling is somehow a "conspiracy" to defame Trump.

>>135132
Clarify what you and all these independent agencies mean by "Russian meddling" because that could mean a very broad array of different things ranging from criminal to benign

>>135133
see what I posted earlier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

Every citation in there is proven where applicable. You can even see in the talk page where people tried to dispute things but were BTFO.

But in case that isn't enough
http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-cybersecurity/2017/01/trump-now-accepts-us-spy-agency-russian-hacking-conclusions-adviser-says-218131

http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/feds-damning-report-russian-election-hack-wont-convince-skeptics/

>>135134
Alright. I get back to you later with a report on this stuff. IMO everyone obsessed with this story is making a mountain out of a molehill, but I don't have time to prove that now

>>135136
This thread wouldn't even be here if the Russians weren't pulling the same shenanigans in France right now. It isn't one of the campaigns making the initial allegations of hacking this time like it was in the US situation, it's Trend Micro. They set up decoy sites to lure the Russians in and apparently it worked.

>>135136
>IMO

Nobody gives a shit you impressionable bootlicking babby.

>>135114
>>135113
Saying President Trunp wasn't legitimately elected isn't only false, but delusional. The Russians didn't hack the election, and only argued that their state ran propaganda was pro Trump. Crowd strike tried to argue that Russians hacked the DNC because there were websites that had similar domains, and were loaded with malware. This reeks of the WMD myth, and idk people support this claim

>>135144
>Saying President Trunp wasn't legitimately elected isn't only false
Actually that's what the facts show, but good luck trying to cast it as my personal opinion. All I have to do is literally sit here doing nothing while the investigation continues to unfold and more things are revealed every week. Here's the latest one:
https://boards.4chan.org/news/thread/135090#lr135090

The investigation isn't going anywhere and Trump will pay a price eventually for his role even if it takes until he's out of office to do so.

>>135150
>>135090

two more-than signs and the post number

>>135093
Strange because the FBI has a strict policy of never commenting about ongoing investigations. I hope Adam Schiff isn't the only source.

>>135178
Comey has a strict policy of complying with subpoenas from congressional committees asking for answers, even if it means it isn't public.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/20/james-comey-hearing-fbi-investigating-donald-trump-russia-links-coordination

>WikiLeaks releases email explaining DNC saught to destroy Trump's campaign by framing him as a mysoginist, then as a full blown sex offender.
> When every civil case was summarily thrown out by every judge, the women disappeared
> WikiLeaks shares more emails listing out the DNC switches tactics by claiming Hillary is tougher on Russia, and that Trump is inexperienced and soft in foreign policy.
>Hillary begins to slip, but the race remains tight. Trump begins to state that "the election may be rigged". Hillary comments that if he does not accept the results, he is a "threat to democracy".
>News continue to state it is impossible for the election to be hacked, as Trump claimed.
>Trump wins.
> Russia may have hacked the election now. Never releasing how or by what means, but always in broad statements.
CIA director claims it is possible now. He then pulls back this claim.
> News media spends months trying to get Russia to stick. Still no hard evidence.

>>135182
>muh no proofs meme
The thread is full of hard evidence, tovarish. Keep trying to conflate hacking voting machines with russians hacking email and the russian disinfo campaign. Maybe someone on /pol/ will believe you.

>>135188
be thankful there are no images in reply or all you would see on /news/ would be cartoon chickens.

>>135189
I'm thankful this is the board where mainstream media is a good thing.

>>135188
>a timeline of things that happened

Nice try, you'll never convince me that my political enemies aren't the real bad guys!

Lol go watch Don Lemonparty and sit on a traffic cone shill

>>135191
see
>>135100

>>135190
>t. CNN intern

>>135197
The best you can come up with is that I'm a CNN intern? Not even CREW or Shareblue as is the custom? Low effort, Anon, I expected better.

inb4 5 cents memes and other /pol/ tropes.

>>135098
>They say the investigation into Russian hackers is ongoing. So, coming out to say that it happened before you put together the case is just irresponsible.

The CIA already had a press release that they've determined that Russians did try to influence US elections.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

There's an ongoing investigation into ties between Trump's campaign team and Russians prior to the elections.

Everything about this has the fingerprints of Russian attempts to influence elections in the western world and in particular eastern europe.

There is about as much evidence that Russians supported efforts to systematically influence American public opinion as there could possibly be on any topic.

Infinite denial appears to be the only strategy many Trump supporters have remaining.

>>135200
>CREW or Shareblue

That would imply that you're getting paid for it, when most likely you're more than willing to degrade yourself for free.

>>135202
Oh yes, I'm so degraded because I posted sources and facts. As where you yourself are above reproach.

What else you got?

>>135181
So the only source is adam schiff.

>>135206
Schiff isn't the only member of the House Intelligence Committee

http://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=776
>Yesterday, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence sent two letters related to its investigation into Russian active measures during the 2016 election campaign. The first letter was sent to FBI Director James Comey and National Security Advisor Admiral Mike Rogers, inviting them to appear at a closed hearing on May 2, 2017.

>The second letter was sent to former CIA Director John Brennan, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates inviting them to appear at an open hearing to be scheduled after May 2nd.

There are plenty of other republicans besides Nunez.
http://intelligence.house.gov/about/hpsci-majority-members.htm

And then there is the separate Senate Intelligence Committee investigation which is also ongoing
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/publications/assessing-russian-activities-and-intentions-recent-us-elections

For as much as conservatives whined about >muh emails for a year you'd think they would know that these things take time.

>>135209
They really do take time, and they're about a sensitive topic that threatens one of the things we can pride ourselves on in the US: smooth transition of power. They're being sensationalized with speculation rather than taking a measured approach that waits until the investigation comes to some conclusion, and the only sources for these stories seem to be anonymous or, adam schiff.

When I'm talking about sources, I'm talking about sources from which the media is getting its information. Obviously I'm not talking about sources for the Select Committee's investigation. Unless you're claiming there's an intelligence leak from brennan, clapper, and yates to news outlets? That would be interesting.

>>135204
>sources and facts

Tee-hee, never change /news/

>>135204
>That's not all!
>That's not all!
>That's not all!
>That's not all!

You must be taking your delivery methods from BuzzFeed. No evidence, just weak ass articles by the same handful of liberal news outlets caught back tickling the Clinton's a few months ago.

>>135218
>hurr durr first CNN and now Buzzfeed
Next it will be Salon.com. Maybe DailyKos

>I don't like what the news reports say so they are "weak ass"
Don't tell me, bubba, tell the New York Times.

>caught back tickling the Clinton's
Got a source? Remember how the NYT broke the Hillary Clinton uranium story that Breitbart turned into a book? Of course you don't.

>>135188
>Disinformation campaign
Must be Russia ((using)) RT to ((hack)) the US election

>>135245
see
>>135100

>>135100
>country that shoves propaganda down its population's throat 24/7 susceptible to outside propaganda, in other news, water is wet.
At last I truly see

>>135275
Corporate propaganda = commercial advertising = capitalism

yay, capitalism.

>>135081
Lmao. This faggot calls out fake news and quotes a Breitbart article. Off yourself Vlad.

>>135284
>Off yourself Vlad.
How successful has forcing this meme been?

Not very, given it appears no where outside of /news/?

Sad!

>>135309
You're even worse than Vlad is, Sergei.

Why is it only a big deal when Russia (allegedly) interferes in U.S. elections? Nobody seems to care that Israel basically controls congress and has close allies in the media, presenting a strong conflict of interest.

>>135333
This

>Why Not a Probe of ‘Israel-gate’?
> As Official Washington fumes about Russia-gate, Israel’s far more significant political-influence-and-propaganda campaigns are ignored.
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/20/why-not-a-probe-of-israel-gate/

>>135333
Actually, let me expand on that last one:
Israel has strong allies virtually everywhere in America, to the point where it's kind of absurd to think it's even possible, yet here we are.