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New definition of word "planet" would make Pluto a

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/nation-now/2017/03/21/nasa-scientists-researchers-will-pluto-become-planet-new-definition/99440868/

>Will Pluto have the last laugh? A group of NASA scientists hopes so.

>A group of members of the New Horizons mission to Pluto are making the case to redefine what constitutes as a planet to be more inclusive. The proposed definition would reinstate Pluto as a planet, and grant planetary status to the Earth’s moon and more than 100 other celestial bodies in our solar system.

>Kirby Runyon of Johns Hopkins University is reigniting the debate over Pluto’s planetary status at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Houston on Tuesday.

>First discovered and classified as a planet in 1930, Pluto had its planetary status dragged out from under its cosmic feet in 2006 because there appeared to be other objects like Pluto beyond the eighth planet (Neptune). Pluto was thus demoted to a “dwarf planet.”

>"[Pluto has] everything going on on its surface that you associate with a planet,” Runyon said in a statement. “... There's nothing non-planet about it."

>Since Pluto’s demotion, debate over whether Pluto deserves to be classified as a planet or not has raged in the scientific community.

>The demotion of the planet is quite simply “bulls***,” Alan Stern, principal investigator of NASA’s New Horizons mission to Pluto, told Business Insider in 2015.
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>Last week on the The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Science Superstar Neil deGrasse Tyson said those who are pro-planetary status for Pluto need to “get over it.”

>“Pluto had it coming from the beginning,” Tyson said. “Pluto’s orbit crosses that of another planet. That is no kind of behavior for another planet…. Stay in your lane.”

>The team of researchers suggested a new definition of a planet in a February proposal, that is more in line with “scientific classification and peoples’ intuition'" should be adopted.

>“In the mind of the public, the word 'planet' carries a significance lacking in other words used to describe planetary bodies,” the proposal states. “In the decade following the supposed 'demotion' of Pluto by the International Astronomical Union, many members of the public, in our experience, assume that alleged 'non-planets' cease to be interesting enough to warrant scientific exploration.”

>The scientists suggest planets should constitute as “round objects in space that are smaller than stars,” thus excluding white dwarfs, neutron stars, and black holes from the planetary status.

>"A planet is a sub-stellar mass body that has never undergone nuclear fusion and that has sufficient self-gravitation to assume a spheroidal shape adequately described by a triaxial ellipsoid regardless of its orbital parameters," the proposal elaborates, noting that the Earth's moon would constitute as a planet under the new definition.

>Stern and his colleagues note that the IAU’s definition of a planet is too narrow and recognizes planets only as objects that orbit our sun and "requires zone clearing, which no planet in our solar system can satisfy since new small bodies are constantly injected into planet-crossing orbits."

>Runyon will take questions on the proposed definition during a poster session Tuesday.
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Science is officially based on concensus.
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>>123904
The issue is a semantic linguistic disagreement, not a scientific one.
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>>123906
That's what they all say
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Fuck the nigger science guy
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If Pluto is a planet, then so it Ceres, Eris, Makemake, and Haumea--and probably a lot more to come. Anybody ever hear of those celestial bodies? Pluto is only famous because it shares the name with a cartoon dog.

Pluto hasn't cleared its orbit, it's not a planet.
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>>123925
Yeah they say in another version of the article that changing the definition would 'add' 102 planets to the solar system for a total of 110. Judging by the blasé tone of most of the coverage it seems like some of the scientists in the IAU are okay with that.
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Define a planet as a celestial rock that could or could have or does support life.
Ez
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Define a planet as a rock which is named pluto.
Ez
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>>123944
Right now it's classified as a 'planetoid', which is essentially the same as an asteroid. it looks like nobody has ever thought to define a distinction between the two before.
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>>123945

No it isn't. Its minor planet designation is 134340 Pluto, and it's categorized as a dwarf planet, TNO, Kuiper belt object, and/or plutoid.
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>>123955
Oh, it figures. I was just going by what I heard Degrasse-Tyson say on some show I saw.
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>>123965
Television scientists are leftist political hacks
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>>123966
Well he is the director of some planetarium somewhere. I guess that counts for something but I'm not sure what.
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>>123966
Not just to ones on television from what I heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
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>>123982
>>123966
Can we please keep the left/right partisan shit on /pol/ for this thread? This isn't a left/right issue.
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>>123984
Can leftists stop injecting their ideology into everything they touch?

Then maybe it wouldn't get brought up in every conversation
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>>123992
Nobody is injecting anything anywhere except you. You've missed the point. There is no leftist or right wing agenda on Pluto. You come off as a hyper-polarized partisan idiot who sees political boogeymen behind every bush.
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>>123992
Make Pluto Great Again!
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>>123996
you have a problem following a logical conversation

Keep it to yourself

Nobody needs to know how difficult you think reading is
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>>124002
Don't reply to this thread again.
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>>124001
Pluto was never great...

When in our history was Pluto great for all celestial objects?

This is a galaxy of aliens. We all big banged from somewhere. Etc.
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>>124003
Oh great it's offended again someone get its homosex pills
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>>123984
I'm sorry Anon. I was triggered.
I'm in favour of Pluto being a planet again but adding 100 others seems like a step too far.

>>123992
Does being a 'left wing political hack' discount TV scientists from weighing in on the discussion?
Perhaps a more right wing perspective would help answer the Pluto question?
Surely the right can provide a final solution.

>>124002
Which posts are yours? This is confusing.
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>>124008
>Does being a 'left wing political hack' discount TV scientists from weighing in on the discussion?
Yes
>Perhaps a more right wing perspective would help answer the Pluto question?
Maybe.

>>124008
>Which posts are yours?
Lmao u don't have 4chanX

My name is RedDrAgOn420420 btw
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>>124011
>4chanX
Is that some kind of spyware like the local flags extension?
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>>124011

If you have a username, why don't you use it so everyone can see?

> RedDrAgOn420420

XD
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>>123966
Niel Degrasse Tyson was just on the Colbert Report slamming Pluto as not being a planet. "It shares it orbit with other dwarfs, that's not planet behavior!" he joked.

If Pluto was made a planet, we would get like 50 more planets r something from all the other dwarfs discovered.
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>>124020
>that's not planet behavior
Maybe, maybe not.
Just because planets are doing things a certain way in this solar system doesn't mean they aren't do it differently somewhere else.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20160-two-planets-found-sharing-one-orbit/
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>>123890
Fluff.

Fuck off, Colbert. You're just surfing a wave of popularity by stirring up this hopeless debate.

By international agreement Pluto is not classified as a planet. Buncha butthurt nobodies who should be directing their energies into planetary science & exploration. Not debating an insignificant classification. Maybe the NSF should start pulling their funding just to rattle a few tails and straighten out these rogue scientists behaviours.
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So would kids have to learn about all the "planets" now or just the main ones like we already do? Everything else is just a big barren rock anyways, unlike the eight we all know and love. Well except for Mercury, but it's the closest barren rock to the sun so it's still somewhat significant.
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>>124111
Please learn what the IAU is.
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