White House blocks CNN, BBC, New York Times, LA Times from media

Fox News anchor Bret Baier discouraged conservative news outlets who celebrated the gaggle, citing organisations who defended his network when former President Obama tried to freeze out Fox News in 2009.

“Some at CNN and New York Times stood with Fox News when the Obama admin attacked us and tried to exclude us,” he wrote on Twitter, “a White House gaggle should be open to all credentialed orgs.”

President Trump renewed his attacks on the media by again calling news outlets “the enemy of the people” at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington DC. "I'm against the people that make up stories and make up sources," he told his audience. "They shouldn't be allowed to use sources unless they use somebody's name. Let their name be put out there."

His comments come on the heel of reports that President Trump’s Chief of Staff Reince Priebus privately asked the FBI to prevent news stories of the Trump campaign’s communication with Russian intelligence.

Jeff Mason, the president of the White House Correspondents’ Association, said his organisation will protest strongly against the ban.

"The WHCA board is protesting strongly against how today's gaggle is being handled by the White House," he said in a statement. "We encourage the organizations that were allowed in to share the material with others in the press corps who were not. The board will be discussing this further with White House staff."

Joel Simon, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, also called the decision alarming.

“President Trump’s calls for an end to anonymous sources was alarming. It is not the job of political leaders to determine how journalists should conduct their work, and sets a terrible example for the rest of the world, where sources often must remain anonymous to preserve their own lives,” he said in a statement. “We are concerned by the decision to bar reporters from a press secretary briefing. The US should be promoting press freedom and access to information.”

Good move by Trump. Wither them down.
CNN already bitching like children.

I got a b0ner

>spend a year on slander campaign
>surpirsed when the person slandered doesn't want to speak to you
um...lol?

It feels so fucking good that Infowars was let in and CNN wasn't.

/x/ invitation, when?

>>114885
How did NBC get in? They hate Trump.

Wow. It feels like everyone became retarded over night.

>>114885
I remember when Obama tried this shit with Fox News. Not sure if someone like Trump would care enough to back down, though.

Fucking finally. These are the guys who attempted to help Clinton destroy the United States by funding Isis and starting WWIII. Our media is a liberal deathcult attempting to overthrow one of the finest presidents in modern history. When confronting these people, no act of resistance is evil, no act is too shocking. The lugenpresse must be brought down!

>>114905
Go talk to your smart socialist classmates then.

I'll be here loving liberty and justice. So retarded ;]

it's not a right to be let into the press room, and they showed their character full well for the entire election.

they deserve what they get

/pol/ is leaking pretty heavily in here today

>>114915
/pol/ owns 4chan.

>>114915
>/leftypol/ starts shit
>/pol/ corrects said shit
>WAAAAAHHHH WAAAHHH my feelings

Cry more

>>114917
What?

>>114917
This isnt a surprise to anyone that browses /pol/ and sees the blatant bias CNN has towards Clinton and pals. Whats more surprising is all the other medias being blocked.

>>114916
you wish fagit

that's like saying /r/The_Donald owns reddit

>>114911
I can talk to them here just fine, thanks.

>>114911
>muzzling the press
>the very antithesis of liberty
>MUH LIBERTUH
that's really fucking retarded dawg

>>114920
There is no such thing as the truth, only an agreed upon narrative. When we control the narrative, we control the truth, and when we control the truth, we control thought. This fact has been at the heart of /pol/ since its inception. We do not seek the revelation of truth, but the control of truth. Once more news agencies are banned and others uplifted, then we can begin tearing the world down so we can build a true utopia as Hitler attempted back in the 40s.

Fascism will never completely die out, because it's a frame of mind, not a fleeting political ideology or passing fad in politics.

That's why it's NOT hyperbole to call these people fascists.

>>114924
Ugh, rp elsewhere

>>114927
If it was just RP do you think we would be here?

>>114923
>muzzling the press

Maybe the press should stop acting like fucking children.

>>114930
As opposed to a president that lies about everything and throws a twitter shit fit when people don't kiss his ass?

>>114916
/pol/ is reddit.

>>114934
Considering that /pol/ hates everything and is generally right oriented to extreme right, id say you are wrong. If anything, reddit is centerish left. And they do like a lot of things. Unlike /pol/ or /b/.

>>114931
Since throwing tantrums is reason enough to muzzle someone, the president ought to be muzzled as well.

>>114907
>when Obama tried this shit with Fox News
Obama had plenty of meeting with only the selected selected press personalities he wanted, as did other presidents before him.
CNN and others are just eating away more and more of their own credibility when trying to claim this is somehow unprecedented

>>114939
Obama interviewed with Bill O'Reilly. Obama didn't block Fox News from his press conferences. No other president in our history has not only publicly taken such a strong stance against free press.
“They [the press] shouldn’t be allowed to use sources unless they use somebody’s name.”
-Trump

Pretending it's all the same isn't going to work. Trump doesn't understand that free press and transparency are what make America great.

>>114885

No matter how much he offends the media, that deserve it, I won't forget that trump is equal to
- the pot calling the kettle black
Sociopaths always use blame diversion on the weak, and it works.

>new organizations post news stories that make le god emprah Trump-sama look bad
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Truth does not fear observation

>>114928
What does that even mean?

This kek bullshit is THE gayest meme to hit the internet.

I left that place for that reason, don't bring that shit here.

>>114944
>Obama didn't block Fox News from his press conferences.
and Trump hasn't blocked anyone from his press conferences either. go check your facts from somewhere other than politifact/CNN
>No other president in our history has not only publicly taken such a strong stance against free press.
it isn't against "a stance against free press"
it's a stance against straight out biased media outlets that have been caught over and over again lying through their teeth, straight out slandering the current POTUS/elect, just correcting their articles _weeks_ afterwards or with no attempt to correct them at all when actual truth comes out.

and you for whatever reason completely ignored the main point, which was this being a somehow unprecedented case (which it isn't)

>>114901
Not "cable News" so he probably doesn't watch it. He singled out the ones who are on cable and mentioned/referenced on cable.

Why no mention of Washington Post, his most hated org, either for or against? Is it cause they're still banned since before the election?

>>114969
>it's a stance against straight out biased media outlets
So he keeps fox and Bart, the paragons of truth and antibias?
You sure it's not a stance against sources he doesn't like?

>>114969
Not him but given Trump's creativity where the truth is concerned, do you think there's any moral high ground left for him to claim?

>>114977
of course he keeps the sources that are pro-him.
that's just common sense
>>114978
>do you think there's any moral high ground left for him to claim?

>against CNN & bunch
sure, he's still far above them
>vs anything even remotely neutral?
not really. there never has been.

>>114944
You're a fucking idiot thinking that those networks are "free press" for all the purposeful lies and bullshit they printed and propagated recently

>>114984
Just because it's critical of Trump doesn't make it lies and bullshit

>>114923
This
Wasnt the right all about freedom and free speech ?
Even if these networks are full of shit cherrypicking the ones that you "like" is kind of anti what the right is all about.

>>114982
>>against CNN & bunch
>sure, he's still far above them
you can't really believe that. Surely you accept that he frequently slanders hem for fake coverage even when their stories are amply evidenced and sourced. Trump lies about basic statistics; that's not something CNN could ever get away with, let alone with his consistency and unapologeticness.

>>vs anything even remotely neutral?
>not really. there never has been.
You obviously don't believe there's never been a remotely neutral treatment of news. That's ridiculous. What makes the right-wing make these sorts of outrageous statements?

>>114990
Freedom of speech doesn't mean the president has to treat all media equally.

The left is losing credibility so fast attacking Trump on literally everything.

You're even defending the news! What the fuck???

Has this ever happened before with a another president or is this uncharted waters?

>>114982
>of course he keeps the sources that are pro-him.
>that's just common sense
So then it's not a stance against bias. It's a stance against either a bias he doesn't like, or unfavorable reporting.
Seems pretty cowardly to me. Great person to represent my country

Trump "Bad people say things that hurt my feelings. Make them go away!"

>>115009
It would be hilarious if it weren't so terrifying that the US preident is promising that the press will no longer be able to post information without giving the name of the individual that provides it. Knowing Trump he'll just seek to use his power to terrorize anyone who leaks evidence of traitorous behavior as he has.

Republicans are rhe only ones who can avert this right now but they've shown their true colors as conplicit or cowardly with few exceptions. Even Democrats are disappointingly quiet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQkXXBqj_U

>Breitbart let in
>Infowars let in

fucking lol

This is starting to sound like the beginnings of some communist regime or dictatorship where only government selected media is allowed

>>115017
>fucking lol

dont get your fun.

they have all rights to be let in.

>>115018

You're clearly butthurt I trashed your biased trash media outlets

>>115022
>You're clearly butthurt

no i am not. i just shit into your mouth enjoying your inferior complexes.

>>115022
Why is it biased to quote what he's saying? I thought /pol/ was all about the idea of 'talk shit, get hit', and Trump does nothing but talk a mountain of shit.

>>114905
They were already retarded

>>115017
Infowars in the white house?

It's like I'm living in a science fiction movie, I wonder what Donald told Alex to make Alex support him so much.

>>115029
Akex is anti globalism, he's sure it's a conspiracy by the elites to cull the human population and enslave the remainder.

Trump is also anti-globalist.

So Alex loves him.

>>114928
Yes. You're still on 4chan in case that's slipped your mind. It might feel like a whole different world outside of /pol/ but you've barely gone next door. You should really try taking your bullshit to the real world, might surprise you.

>>115031
So is Noam Chomsky yet Alex literally threw a fit and started shouting at him when he was a guest on his show. But I guess Trump is the paleoconservative type

Trump is a globalist, and has been until a year ago when he ran on a GOP ticket. I don't know why Alex doesn't investigate any of this

>>114930
>Maybe the press should stop acting like fucking children.

I don't think you understand freedom.

>>114937
>Unlike /pol/ or /b/.

I don't think you understand /po/, /b/ or reddit.

>>115036
Because his audience is mostly trump voters. He mentioned it in a interview with trump awhile back. If that's true, aj is just pandering to what his audience says,
Alex has never been the principled type. He goes where money is.

>>114996
>you can't really believe that.
i do, because it's true.
>CNN, Buzzfeed etc.
>amply evidenced and sourced
you must be trolling.

>Trump lies about basic statistics; that's not something CNN could ever get away with, let alone with his consistency and unapologeticness.
CNN & Co. lies about pretty much anything you can imagine, all the time.
they just pretend to be righteous by first publishing sensation seeking trash articles all over the place, then "correct" them after days when "conflicting evidence" comes around - then if anyone attacks them they pull out the "freedom of the press"-card or just claim they have "kazillion unnamed sources" on this thing so it's 100% true and they were right to report on it, even if the only "proof" they had was some hearsay from a post on 4chan.

>Anonymous 02/25/17(Sat)03:33:17 No.114947▶
>Truth does not fear observation

The problem is when the observers does not report the truth.

I'm only now realizing that he thinks the media is Rosie O'Donnell.

>>114990
Principles can be bent a little wherever there is a good opportunity to seize power.

>>115004
It's kind of enshrined in the constitution, so you're plain wrong.

>>115006
No, it's wholly unpresidented.

>>115006
>>115049
>No, it's wholly unpresidented.
it has happened plenty of times with plenty of presidents

>>114937
No, stay here, don't go-

I don't like CNN, washpost, huffpost, nypost, guardian, vox, slate, motherjones, salon, thehill, rollingstone. All they produce is clickbait garbage.

>>114909
Nice pasta.

>>115050
Gaggles are common practice. What's new is their explicit use _in lieu_ of briefings (with the intent to freeze out specific news organizations). That hasn't happened before.

>>114923
>neutering a fifth column
>somehow antithetical to liberty and justice

>>114947
>truth does not fear observation.
Lies do. The major media organs are so palpably terrified for a reason

>>115025
Media maliciously excerpts and cuts up Trump's words regularly. It's not misquoting in the sense that they came out of his mouth, but it is in the sense that they could say this with your post:
>Why is it biased to... do nothing but talk a mountain of shit?

You're being lied to. There's no excuse to be oblivious with the Internet at your feet.

>>114934
And 4chan is /pol/.

If you knew some history, you'd understand that /pol/ grew out of /news/ (back then, called /n/), so you'd understand that all we're doing is coming back to our original home.

>>115073
/n/ was your home. All of 4chan was never like /n/ same as with /pol/ today (although that may finally be changing)

This is the kind of historical revisionism you can expect from pseudo-fascist edgelords

>>115075
And /news/ grew out /n/, /new/, and /pol/. They're all part of the same lineage. Are you retarded?

>>115077
This board has been thankfully not part of that lineage. It exists specifically to permit real discussion, instead of being a hotbed of pointless trolling like the other three.

I guess trump loves safe spaces, he just made one for himself

>>115081
He wants to make the entire country his safe space.

>>115072
If this were true, he should just go in public and give people context.
Yelling at everyone in the country that doesn't agree with you just makes him look insecure.
If he didn't really mean that violent crime is the highest it's been nationwide since the last 47 years, just tell people the context in which what he said wasn't a false statement.
That would be more convincing and do more to shame the MSM than threatening free press and government trnasparency. The latter just makes it look like he has something to hide.

>>115045
>CNN & Co. lies about pretty much anything you can imagine, all the time.
>they just pretend to be righteous by first publishing sensation seeking trash articles all over the place, then "correct" them after days when "conflicting evidence" comes around - then if anyone attacks them they pull out the "freedom of the press"-card or just claim they have "kazillion unnamed sources" on this thing so it's 100% true and they were right to report on it, even if the only "proof" they had was some hearsay from a post on 4chan.

OK, can you cite me a single article with a lie from the past week?
It's painfully obvious that Trump and his crowd are trying to slander actual journalists because they don't like the coverage they're getting, given how many scandals and impeachable offenses he's been involved in, and the frequency with which he makes false claims.

>then if anyone attacks them they pull out the "freedom of the press"-card

What do you mean by "attacks them"? Attacks their right to publish information from their journalists? Of course that's what free press is for. it's essential to our democracy.

If it wasn't for CNN and co., Trump would never have outed Flynn for helping to sell out US interests to the Russians, or provided that information on his own.
Flynn should really go to prison given what he did is illegal and makes him a traitor, but of course Trump won't do that to someone who has helped him, although by the end of this perhaps both will.

>>115078
>This board has been thankfully not part of that lineage. It exists specifically to permit real discussion
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>115045
>they just pretend to be righteous by first publishing sensation seeking trash articles all over the place, then "correct" them after days when "conflicting evidence" comes around
like the super majority of news networks?
You do know thats how news works, right? Most outlets get shit if they dont cover something major and major stories have something called, hold onto your great again hat, developing stories.
Are you ironicly shit posting?

>>115096
>like the super majority of news networks?
So that makes it okay?

>You do know thats how news works, right?
That doesn't make it right you dullard. Lying being common practice is a sign of a sick industry.

>Are you ironicly shit posting?
Are you ironically defending shady news practices?

>>115091
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies#Coverage_of_2016_United_States_election_interference_by_Russia

>Trump and his crowd are trying to slander actual journalists because they don't like the coverage they're getting
And what, Senator Feinstein, counts as an "actual journalist"? Someone who interned at the CIA for a specific amount of time like Anderson Cooper?

>Trump would never have outed Flynn for helping to sell out US interests to the Russians
>Flynn should really go to prison given what he did is illegal and makes him a traitor

You know this isn't what happened.
You know there's no evidence of anything you have just said
You know the FBI cleared this shit months ago, otherwise you would have posted it.


Why continue to push a complete and total fabrication that only exists within the fantasy world created by news outlets between the initial shock from sensationalist breaking news headlines and the "correction/redaction" that comes out later?
Why continue to lie?
For free?
On a North Korean anonymous recipe swapping and crochet image board?

>>114892
i couldn't express it better

>>115087
He does, repeatedly. Then the media misreports it over again, and misinformed idiots like you continue living in their propaganda bubble.

Example:
https://youtu.be/dMsVPKL1daA
Funny to note, when I was pulling this video just now, apparently it got censored from FB after getting too much attention.

You should always cross check any sources the media reports on. Review the study yourself, even if it's just the abstract and conclusions. Find the full transcript of the speech they're quoting. Find the video they're referencing. Look up more facts of the situation - get all the context. I've been doing this for the last few years, at least on any article that seemed suspicious, and more often than not, it was manipulated. Maybe my spider sense is just good but it's made me realize just how BS our media is long before I was ever red pilled.

>>115108
News media just want to start WWIII because they upset that $hillary lost. They want nuclear war so that the Muhammadans can take over and Islamize the world.

>>115091
>can you cite me a single article with a lie from the past week
Wew lad I can do you one better

Mika of MSNBC accidentally slipping up and stating that controlling "exactly what people think" is "our [the media's] job"
https:// news.grabien.com/story-brzezinski-our-job-control-exactly-what-people-think

Also Don Lemon cut off a panelist and abruptly ending the segment because he suggested CNN was fake news
https://www. google.com/amp/www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-abruptly-ends-segment-after-panelists-fake-news-complaints/amp/

I don't really follow CNN outside of their humorous blunders so I don't know if they've been caught in anything red handed this week. There were the 200 hours of leaks that came out yesterday, we'll see what incriminating materials are found in that.

>>115119
It's kinda hard to pick up what is legit and what is not. I try to listen to all of them and form a picture, but the liberal news sources are so biased and full of lies. Increasingly, the only sources I find that are even close to the truth are ones like InfoWars, Breitbart, Drudge Report, and the blogs.

>>115114

Where does he provide context for his statement about crime rate being the highest this year compared to the last half century

Where does he provide context for his claim that the national debt decreased by 12 billion over the past month.

Where does he provide context for his claim that the media has a lower approval rating than congress.

His claim that he already saved millions on the F35 program.

His claim that terrorism isn't reported by the press.

His claim that only muslim refugees were allowed before him.

His claim US taxes on corporations are the highest in the world.

Trump said ""ObamaCare is a disaster and Snowden is a spy who should be executed-but if it and he could reveal Obama's records,I might become a major fan."

He doesn't care at all about truth and by extension the interests of others including Americans. He's only interested in more power for himself. So of course the MSM is a threat to him.

>>115119

So where is the evidence that everything they say is a lie.
Is that evidence of lies? What lies? That Mika said something dumb is false?
C'mon now, of all the countless liberal lying left wing news MSM chock full of lies this is what you give me to demonstrate your point?

>I don't really follow CNN outside of their humorous blunders so I don't know if they've been caught in anything red handed this week.

If you don't follow CNN then you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Go find me an article about trump on CNN and point out the lies.

If everything they say is lies this shouldn't be like pulling teeth with you guys.

>>115136
You really don't have a leg to stand on. CNN? Legitimate? They attacked a US presidential candidate, calling him a pedophile without evidence.

Kys, when the person you ran a smear campaign on become president, he has every right to remove your kebab sucking ass.

>>115147
>You really don't have a leg to stand on. CNN? Legitimate? They attacked a US presidential candidate, calling him a pedophile without evidence.

Yes, you keep saying they are illegitimate. And I am asking for evidence in the form of an article about Trump where you can point out the lies.
One will do. Just make sure they are indeed lies.

>Kys, when the person you ran a smear campaign on become president, he has every right to remove your kebab sucking ass.

Some things deserve to be "smeared" if smearing just means coming out against it. If someone is a well known asshole and they're called out for being an asshole the natural response isn't "he's being slandered!", since that ignores the full context of the situation in which the behavior of the person warranted the label.

And nobody is questioning his right to have press conferences where he's asked questions only by outlets that support his administration and all that's come from it. But it's worth pointing out that it's against the interest of transparency to refuse to field difficult questions about government and policy. Because the most interesting and informative questions are always going to be the more difficult ones for policymakers to field.

>>114885

This is great news.

I have been sickened by the way the public has chosen to forget about how overtly biased these so called news organizations have been.

Hard pipe hitting people should be sent to go to work on the offices of those organizations.

>>115126

Infowars? Really, the guy who thinks fruit drink packs make you gay? Are you trolling, or do can you cite an example that these guys are legit. Cause I don't watch them and can't stand them, so fuck I'm not going to watch them and find out.

>>115153
well you already gave one yourself
>Flynn
then there's also
>Russia hacked the elections

>>115014
>Yell Queen's shit and people who listen to them are faggots
>Get kicked out
>"N-nice safe space guys"

>>115153
>>115136
Okay

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1701/21/acd.02.html
Anderson Cooper lies about Donald Trump's focus on his inaugaration speech being about the crowds. It was a small, passing comment, very obviously the focus - but you wouldn't know that if you only watched the excerpts they showed on his show.

And Spicer's reference to the crowd wasn't just boasting, it was specifically the media maliciously about misrepresenting the size of the crowds, which is intentionally made unclear in their spin. CNN:
https://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/01/cnnfake1.png
Reality:
https://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/01/NGbN3MH.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49_WxvufqZg

CNN lies to trump about its ratings:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/12934/fake-news-cnn-caught-lying-trump-about-john-nolte#

CNN lies about Nancy Sinatra being unhappy about using her father's song on inaugaration:
https://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/files/2017/01/zrup6u5b7vay.jpg

If you do follow CNN then you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

>>115161
>very obviously not the focus

>>115126
>the only sources I find that are even close to the truth are ones like InfoWars, Breitbart, Drudge Report, and the blogs.
FOH

>>115126
How are 100% made up stories "close" to truth?

>>115168
The redpill about the truth is that it never existed. It's all just one big jockeying match for power. The libs have been winning the media war for a while, but now the right is starting to really push back. If I have to decide between whether my side gets its truth heard, or their side, I'm definitely going to make sure mine does.

>>115170
why do you even have a side if there is no truth.
right wing is telling everyone else when their dumb ideas and actions are debunked, "well, there is no real truth" "there is alternative to facts and science".
that's highly suspect argument when all the folks yelling that all go and support the same party and candidate.
i would expect instead you just wouldn't give a shit who won the vote or what policies existed if there was no truth.

>>114885
I'm against Trump barring news organizations from press briefings. But is it really such a bad thing that Trump barred BuzzFeed from entering?

>>115170
You cannot know anything other than the fact that your own thoughts exist with 100% certainty.
But we can still say for practical purposes that objective truth does indeed exist.
Whether or not reality is all just a mental simulation, if we are going to care about what goes on within reality, if we are going to support one party over another or one policy over another, then we first want to understand that reality.
And to that effect, we look for patterns within the reality we observe. If we observe state X producing state Y, 9 times in a row, we can expect that the next time we see state X, we would then expect Y.
Truth is not about determining if what we observe is real or not. It is for all practical purposes determining which ideas have the most predictive power.
And that works no matter whether everything we observe is real or a simulation or an illusion.

Truth is therefore independent of whom is in power or was in power. The predictive value of conservative worldview, and by extension the ability of their ideas to produce the results they claim they will, remains the same when Obama was in power and when Trump is in power. We can say with certainty that many people will loose healthcare coverage if the ACA is repealed, and that isn't any different now than under Obama, for example.

>>115161

way to prove my point for me:
https://twitter.com/mviser/status/822920854585614339/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Regardless, i take the lack of a single article about trump with a lie cited as evidence that you don't have a leg to stand on when saying CNN is fake news.

>>115181
Huffpost is barely any better.

>>114885
>all news organisations with far-right leanings.

>>115186
>3 examples of CNN publishing lies are somehow negated by misguided nitpicking of an aside
The point on the ASIDE was they misrepresented Spice's point. The media intentionally published photos taken before everyone had arrived and from unflattering angles alongside ledes that suggested Trump's inauguration was underattended, when it was, in fact, not. While that too is an example of CNN spin, the lie was Anderson Cooper's misrepresentation of Spice's comments - he was not boasting about crowds, he was criticizing the media's malicious portrayal of those crowds. Whether or not you believe his criticism was justified is not relevant to their misrepresentation of it.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're actually too stupid to have understood that, and not that you're consciously arguing in bad faith. Inb4 you toss out this entire post because you disingenuously construe that single insult as an "ad hominem fallacy"

>>115181
Because it's popular.
If lots of Americans consume news from a given outlet and that outlet is going to ask questions many people want answers to, if their questions will differ from what other outlets might ask, the white house should invite them to press conferences.

By fielding questions from a variety of outlets featuring a variety of perspectives that are watched by many Americans, the White House facilitates transparent government because they can have the opportunity to directly address their questions.
It doesn't matter if they post information he or trump supporters find disagreeable.

If Fox News journalists asks the Obama's press secretary about death panels, that's the Obama administration's opportunity to publicly call them on their bullshit and shame the MSM for fake news.
CNN and MSNBC are consumed by many Americans. Barring press conference access to journalists from those outlets because they will ask questions many people will want answered, and that they will take a different perspective in reporting than right-wing outlets, Trump makes it look as though he's afraid of questions that many Americans have because he can't answer them or Americans won't like his answers; which is all the more reason those journalists need to be invited more than any others.

What many Trump supporters and Trump's administration needs to understand is consistency. They should always expect to be held to the same standards as Obama and liberals, and have the same level of scrutiny applied to Trump as if Fox News had have evidence of having colluded with Russia to gain office.
They should expect that even if they don't like CNN or disagree with X, many Americans do watch CNN or agree with X so X and CNN deserves to be addressed by the White House, because the press is the avenue in our society by which American people get answers from the government.

>>114885
>fairly
HAHA no
>and aggressively
ayup.

>Several media outlets including the Associated Press and TIME Magazine declined to attend the briefing to boycott the President's decision.
Because the press has long long ago become too acclimated to making news instead of reporting news. I for one congratulate them on managing to lower the bar even further than I dreamed possible. This really is a fun timeline.

>>115191
that's nice
still waiting for all those lie-filled articles about trump from CNN

>>115193
>journalists boycott something

Wow really? Ridiculous!

It's almost like journalists are humans and American citizens with the same interests that live in the same community as you or I and Americans of literally every occupation.

We forget that there are humans, and there are American citizens, and then there are are journalists, extra-dimensional beings sent to sabotage Trump.

>>115180
Not truth that counts, it's ideals and power to exercise those ideals.

>>115197
Well, that's up to the president. I think being compassionate and selfless with the aim of providing for collective good is important and that power by itself isn't justification for a particular platform.

>>115192
Trump and their supporters value consistency. He said himself in the previous conference that he values and appreciates honest journalism irregardless of if it's critical to his administration, and went on to praise and field questions from organs that did just that. Trump has never shut down the media for being critical, and went on many shows and interviews with people he knew were critical of him. This should be clear enough when the gaggle did not exclude agencies like NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC and WP. It's only the heavily dishonest, underhanded journalism that's got the boot - not sure how WP made it through the.

Also, selectively inviting the press are not remotely unprecedented, whatever the mainstram media might be trying to convince you of. Obama froze Fox News from the White House 2 years ago, and the liberal media celebrated it as punishment for a legacy of biased and inaccurate reporting.

>>115196
Nah, it's cool that they would use their journalistic power to make political statements. That's totally objective, and not biased.

>>115201
Didn't you hear? It's their job to control what people think.

>>115199
>It's only the heavily dishonest, underhanded journalism that's got the boot - not sure how WP made it through the.

>we respect the media, just not the media we don't like
which makes all of the other text you wrote pointless

why did you even bother posting the rest. I read CNN, there are lots of questions left-wing sources would ask that the right won't, I know many Americans watch CNN.

You can enjoy breitbart but I deserve the opportunity to hear Trump's administration address CNN and MSNBC and NYTimes and WP and HuffPo just as much as he does breitbart and fox news.

>Obama froze Fox News from the White House 2 years ago, and the liberal media celebrated it as punishment for a legacy of biased and inaccurate reporting.

And it was wrong when Obama had that limited scuffle with Fox. Trump has taken it orders of magnitude higher in his first month in office.

>the liberal media celebrated it as punishment for a legacy of biased and inaccurate reporting.
bullshit
https://twitter.com/BretBaier/status/835206562549493760

>>115201
>>115204
Where is it indicated that journalists are not allowed to be political? When in the history of ever was that not the case?

The important distinction is lying is wrong. Offering an opinion is acceptable.

The requirement of journalists is that they provide facts and full context. Whether they opine for the right or left is meaningless. Breitbart is by far the most political outlet of all the invites, but again Trump supporters fail at consistent standards.

Remember, children! Be sure to never give someone your opinion, you're controlling their minds!

>>115210
You are defending the main stream media
In 2015...........

>>115206
>Trump has taken it orders of magnitude higher in his first month in office.
stop believing everything CNN tried to feed you
this is nowhere near of the magnitude Obama & Fox had, its just being blown out of proportion, like everything trump does, is

>>115210
>opinion
There you have it. Now you know what the difference is between a fact and an opinion, realize that facts are reported, opinions are editorials.

Editorials ≠ journalism.

>>115069
They're not the ones cowering in their safe space

>>115228
CNN isn't doing enough to make an issue of it. Trump is opining for limiting freedom of press that has been a pillar of our republic's prosperity. That is absolutely unprecedented.

>>115232
Most articles on CNN have virtually no statement of opinion from the author.

Here's CNN's article on Trump's comments against media outlets like CNN:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/trump-media-cpac/index.html

Show me where the author gives his opinion.

Even if CNN was half opinion like Breitbart, news + opinion is still news, so long as the information is factual and complete context is provided.

>>115238
Corporations do not have freedom of speech
Corporations are not the press
It is completely in Trumps power to remove anyone he wants from his conferences.
Were Trump to say:
"If anyone tries to report on topic x, fucking kill them" That would be unprecedented. Not this baby shit you want to whine about

>>115245
but individuals that work in corporations have free speech.
If Trump says "news agencies will no longer be allowed to post about me unless they give me the names of everyone that gives them information", that effectively gags journalists from using their website to say certain things.
It's completely anti-free-speech.

>>115245
>the media should not be controlled by a free market
look at this right-wing commie over here

>>115252
That reminds me. Bannon is an avowed Leninist. (His words)

>>114892
It would have to be false for it to be slander.

>>114885
Could any alt-righters answer this for me?
So if everything the media says about Trump is a lie and slander, then how did anybody in the alt-right learn to support him let alone enough to elect him? I'm sure half of the union isn't on brietbart.
Unless of course everything is true and you are just doing damage control now that the world sees you are retarded.

>>115271
I'm not alt-right, but I can imagine their answer in my head. Ahem:

He used 4D chess to outwit the media and used them as a conduit for his message despite their best efforts to stymie him

>>115206
>we respect the media, just not the media we don't like
I didn't intimate anything like that. We respect the media that respects itself and it's viewers, upholding journalistic standards of integrity rather than acting as an organ of propaganda for any public or private interest. I won't like most liberal outlets, but I can still respect and read them if they're worth it as many used to be.

>>115277
Yeah that sounds like what they would say.
But lets get real, they bought in to every piece of crazy bullshit he had to give and now that they have to actually answer for their ideology they are backtracking and saying they are misunderstood and misconstrued.

>They spit at you and tell you it's raining

Why is this tactic so effective? All Trump and his cronies have to do is keep lying through their teeth and they'll get their way on everything. This world is a very very strange place.

>>115271
>thinking in exaggerations

>>115297
You mean, like Shillary, CNN, the Times, and all the rest have been doing for so long?

>>115234
>regulating access to the white house
>cowering in safe space

>>115271
1. You can learn things outside what the media tells you.
2. When people say "the media" they usually mean the mainstream media. Not all media outlets ever. Not all media, as in, every medium, either.

Most people first took notice of Trump during the Republican live debate. Despite MSM on both left and right sides constantly attacking him, he developed a large fantasy primarily on the Internet on social media and word of mouth. Drudge report, zerohedge, brietbart etc were also alternative media outlets that covered him fairly - drudge has had a pretty damn big subscriber base for a long time.

Also, alt right doesn't exist. It's a made up term used by co-opters of the new right, likely controlled opposition.

>>115316
Liberals always project.

>>114944
I don't think the free press understand that either, otherwise they wouldn't have spent the better part of a whole election cycle taking torches to themselves and working overtime to destroy their own credibility.

Everyone would be on their side right now if they hadn't been pumping out bullshit along with the truth, if they hadn't been actively trying to put their thumbs on the scales so obviously. I don't like outlets being shut out, but to say they haven't made themselves giant fucking targets with a lot of justified hatred would be naive.

>>115316
Trump has managed to outdo all of hillary's failures from 30 years of government service, several times over in the course of a month, with nothing muchto show for it yet.
He's even got the blood of American citizens, soldier and civilian, on his hands from a botched operation. His cabinet is stuffed with bankers and oil industry execs.

Of course, CNN is the enemy of the people. Not the bankers that caused the recession, whom trump is removing regulations that are meant to prevent another recession

Working class Americans should advocate for less government, so that their real friend, the banks and CEOs, can run roughshod over them and they'll have surrendered all say in that.

If you really believe this, you're totally and hopelessly retarded. But of course you don't, because I have been asking for a single CNN article about Trump where someone can point out the lies, and I've yet to receive anything. This shouldn't be difficult, since everything CNN says about Trump has been lies.

>>115321
Positive coverage does not fair coverage make.
If everyone is disgusted by you, there's a good chance you're filthy.

>>115325
So then ban Breitbart too, they have an opinion, anyone with an opinion shouldn't be allowed to post information because opinions means you're controlling peoples' minds.

>>we respect the media, just not the media we don't like
>I didn't intimate anything like that.

No, it is exactly what you said.

>We respect the media that respects itself and it's viewers, upholding journalistic standards of integrity rather than acting as an organ of propaganda for any public or private interest.

What a steaming pile.

>I won't like most liberal outlets, but I can still respect and read them if they're worth it as many used to be.

>we respect the media, just not the media we don't like

>>115325
The failure of the press is that CNN went out of their way to give Trump and Hillary equally negative airtime, even when Trump's blunders by far warranted stronger scrutiny.

Trump has no intention of returning the favor; their attempts to reach out to a wider audience and report from a neutral perspective has only caused them to harm their own interests. I'd still vouch for that, as it is their duty, however.

>>115329
I wouldn't have a problem with that if it were consistent.

I'm of the opinion that if the mainstream media ever wants to recover its credibility it needs to make damn sure it's keeping opinion where it should go. There's too much bleeding over between editorial content and stating of the facts. Fundamentally speaking I don't think it's a problem rooted with biased outlets, I think it's a problem stemming from the very way journalist students are learning their trade. Too many of them conflate being advocates with being a journalist. Their job isn't to change the world, it's to tell the truth, even when it doesn't suit them.

>>115330
That's straight up bullshit. CNN never even discussed the contents of things like Wikileaks info dumps, merely referred to them without any specific details of what they had in them, while every Trump gaffe was focused in on intensely. How anyone can say CNN has tried to be neutral here baffles me, they've gotten to a point where its as easy to see the bias on their sleeve as it is with outlets like Fox or MSNBC.

>>115332
>That's straight up bullshit. CNN never even discussed the contents of things like Wikileaks info dumps, merely referred to them without any specific details of what they had in them, while every Trump gaffe was focused in on intensely. How anyone can say CNN has tried to be neutral here baffles me, they've gotten to a point where its as easy to see the bias on their sleeve as it is with outlets like Fox or MSNBC.

What was in Wikileaks that CNN didn't report on, but right-wing outlets picked up on? The most controversial bit was the DNC supporting Hillary from the inside which I wish wasn't the case, but frankly I'd expect those sorts of back room deals in any political party.
In any case, the Wikileaks dumps weren't a good source of information given that they were leaked from a completely anonymous source, unsure whether it was even an intelligence agency or someone with any level of relevant expertise, and there was no effort placed into verifying that none of the contents were edited.

>>115328
>Trump has managed to outdo all of hillary's failures from 30 years of government service
are you just making shit up now

>>115335
He had the NatSec adviser with the shortest tenure in history who can now be prosecuted as a national traitor. He's being investigated for collusion with enemy intelligence services. He ordered a failed raid that resulted in the death of an American soldier and 23 civilians. He almost sent a nuclear scientist back to Iran from the US. He literally sold his cabinet seats to the highest bidder. He's refused to divest in his businesses, including a hotel that foreign dignitaries have patronized, and is eligible to be impeached right now. And that's ignoring everything he's been responsible for before holding office, like purchasing a children's beauty pageant after sexually harassing women at his other pageant. He's opined to limiting freedom of press.

How does one man have so many fuckups in a single month?

>>115337
Bannon's using the tried and true /pol/ tactic of disrupt and conquer, overwhelm the mods (in this case, oversight committees) with shitposting (scandal/action) to the point that they have difficulty focusing on anything, cause a septic shock as fatigue sets in among posters, and burn everything down and fill the vacuum up with /ourguys/ once they give up. It's how we've been so successful at colonizing 4chan and other sites, and now it's being applied to government.

>>115322
Its weird

>>115337
>He ordered a failed raid
didnt hear about this till now, i must have missed it.

after reading about it a bit, it was something planned by the obama administration, but they didnt get around to doing it.
trump just signed the papers to make it happen.

>>115342
>after reading about it a bit, it was something planned by the obama administration, but they didnt get around to doing it.
>trump just signed the papers to make it happen.
Yeah, Obama probably never got around to it because it was a stupid plan and he knew better. Trump on the other hand, is wholly unqualified for the office.

I need backers for TNN...trump national news.

>>115004
Thats the whole idea of free press you moron. He can make a private outlet if he wants but not banning press.

>>115374
>President can't ban terrorist news agencies

>>115316
>someone is lying
>i know, i'm going to lie EXTRA HARD TO CANCEL OUT THEIR LIES
fucking
.
genius

>>114885
Good,Liberal fake news trash out you go.

>>115271
Because not everyone is sheep who trust the media.

> The Washington Times, all news organisations with far-right leanings

Are you joking? Washington Times is now far? Fucking Liberal media truly is cancer,they can't help with all fake news and bias they have.

Go to toilet libtard media,really go to toilet.

>>115392
Well things like WSJ and Politico are center-right, and Politico was banned so...

>>115391
>Everyone is lies! Trust no1! This somehow makes me superintelligent discerning citizen!

>>115147
>Kys, when the person you ran a smear campaign on become president, he has every right to remove your kebab sucking ass.
How very un-American of you

You'd think someone who constantly talks shit would be able to take the bantz

>>115392
The Washington Times has been a conservative paper since Reagan was president. I don't know why or how you never got that memo, but it doesn't make it untrue.

>>115194
I shared 3. Still waiting for you to address them.

>>115330
>CNN gave Trump and Hillary equally negative airtime
Jesus fucking christ the delusion is unreal.

>>115334
Try to be more informed.

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

There were about 4 separate examples of media collusion iirc. Politico, MSNBC. The media has an 11% approval rate for a very good reason, it's pretty pathetic you drones are the last ones left still repeating the party line after the whole house of cards has already been blown wide open.

>>115390
I love how quickly their fake news about fake news was applied to their own fake news. With liberals projecting their own guilt all the goddamned time, it's surprising how rarely this happens - I think their mistake was trying to narrow it down to a juicy meme/catchphrase. Memes only tell the truth, if you need the media organs collectively repeating it for 10 hours a day to be believed, it can't be condense into a meme which instead could through all the hollow bullshit in 10 seconds.

https://youtu.be/mN3z3eSVG7A

Personally I think the main problem is biased news organizations instead of actual "fake" news. I live in a pretty conservative area, lots of Trump voters. We have a paper that is owned by some big corporation back east, and what they do is put extra scrutiny on every story they could put a liberal spin on. Every shooting by a white person, every anti-trump, or anti 2A rally, no matter how small, every minority person who thinks somebody looked at them racist. Then they put down any similar small stories that might have a conservative side, like someone using a carry gun in self defense, every pro-gun and pro-trump rally, no matter how big, most stories about the big latino gangs around here.

When somebody sends in a letter to complain, they say "oh, well those stories aren't that big" while plastering every tiny democrat-friendly story, every single anti-republican letter and editorial, all over their Facebook feed and their front page. When a big conservative-friendly story comes, like when there was a big pro-trump rally in the largest city in our district, we got 1 paragraph, 2 pictures,and a spot on page 4, and nothing on their facebook.

It's the bias. Anything to make it seem like their shit doesn't stink while trying to prove that not only do Republicans' shit stink, but they're the reason why.

This is why trust in the media is fallen so low. You may report facts in your stories, but you only make pro-liberal stories.

>>115425
I don't see why sane people should pretend that Trump and everything he says is not insane...

>>115443
It's supposed to sound insane. It's been this way since his campaign to get the GOP nomination. He says something inflammatory, then he does something entirely different while the media is busy attacking him.

It's kinda like a feint punch. I guarantee he's working on a different project of his while everybody on the news is speculating about him retrying the muslim travel restriction

>>115315
>>115321
>>115391
>>115425
If the media is so hellbent on discrediting him with lies then how come his persona outside of the medias spin on things (twitter) is exactly like how he is portrayed in the supposedly corrupted liberal media.

He is doing it to increase competition in the MSM. Also notice how whenever he cites Fox News the stories are false? He is doing this to make media great again.

>>115454
in a vain attempt to decode that word salad you managed to mush together, you're delusional.
nothing he does on twitter is indicative of him being bought out by russians. no information anywhere besides their polls indicates he is already hated by the majority of the country. let me remind you these are the same polling methodoligies that predicted a hillary landslide. IE biased/fallacious polls. His comments about "sweden last night" do not exist. CNN et al attacked him over something that never happened, because they knew they couldn't deny the general trend of swedish crime.
reconsider your dogma. it does not align with the facts.

>>115457
>notice how whenever he cites Fox News the stories are false?
such as?

>>115459
Your "facts" are conspiracy theories and are just apologetic for the single most unqualified president in history. And of course he isn't going to outright say he is owned by Russians on twitter but you people are trying to pretend that we haven't caught people red handed colluding with the Russians.
But oh wait. You've declared anything that disagrees with your narrative to simply be untrue so now you don't have to reconsider anything.

Nasa?

>>115466
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sweden-happened-last-night-based-on-debunked-fox-news-report-a7589031.html

He said that his claims on the purported Swedish attacks were based on bad news.

>>115477
>debunked
sweden has no problem with immigrants at all.
its all peace and love over there.

>>115479
That's neither here nor there and you know that. Stop playing dumb

>>115442
>put extra scrutiny on every story they could put a liberal spin on. Every shooting by a white person
Using photoshop to modify the mugshots of a shooter to look like he's white or colluding with a political campaign to know how best it would work to benefit them is a bit more than a little innocent "spin". Omitting highly relevant details to a story or excerpting and cutting up speeches, etc. to push it as an entirely different scenario than what actually occurred IS lying.

>>115471
>Your "facts" are conspiracy theories
>goes on to repeat a baseless conspiracy theory with total confidence
Even conspiracy theorists demand a little more evidence than HILLARY SAID SO! You're pathetic

>>115477
>debunked
kek

Malmo literally went up in flames that very night. I don't need to tell you who was responsible. Sweden is in shambles.

>>115499
I was just referring to a local paper, it gets worse when you look at the bigger news corporations.

>>115500
Only 5 seconds on google

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?_r=0

>>115503
>anonymous "sources" illegally leaking secret "interceptions" of private citizens
>what was discussed, who between, about what, or if it had anything at all to do with Trump not revealed
>implying businessmen doing business in Russia having some contact with Russian officials is suspicious in the first place
nice absurd conspiracy theory, tinfoil. even flat earth has a stronger foundation.

>>115509
Ok. Well just go and pretend the entire news media of the US just started making shit up to make your candidate look bad. Just pretend facts aren't real

>Finally, after the campaign was over, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov publicly admitted that members of Trump’s “entourage” were in touch with Russia. “I cannot say that all of them, but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives,” he told the Russian news service Interfax.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/dec/18/russia-love-was-trump-campaign-touch-foreign-gover/

>>115501

Source?

>>115509

If the cabinet has no Russian ties, why did Flynn resign? He should have been able to prove that he had no other interests besides American ones.

>>115512
he said/she said. he was pr poison even if it isn't true

>>115512
>source?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Rinkeby_riots

>If the cabinet has no Russian ties, why did Flynn resign?
Because he misinformed Pence.

That's the official reason anyway; my opinion is that it was used as a way to sniff out leakers with a canary trap - this is obvious enough with the directly contradictory reporting of WaPo and NYT - but the question is still, why need him to resign? It could be for any reason, blackmail revealed to be held over him, revealed to be disloyal, or maybe he'd do work better outside of the NSA role etc. We won't know for awhile or possibly never.

http://www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/

But it's extremely naive to think that it'd be one as obvious, public and irrelevant as addressing a manufactured scandal around a leaked diplomatic call held during the previous administration. Set aside your rabid red paranoia and realize the only thing wrong in that situation is that he (if true) acted independently and away from oversight, lying both to the Obama administration and, later, the Trump administration.

>>115513
But Trump has never flinched for PR before. Look at how he still keeps that dumb bimbo Kellyane Conway around despite her repeated blunders. Trump does, however, highly reward loyalty. It's not surprising he'd demand a resignation if Flynn lied to Pence about his call.

>>115512
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/polis-skot-varningsskott-mot-stenkastare/

>>115477
Also, he didn't say that. All he said was like on Sweden last night, meaning Fox News' report on Sweden last night. MSM decided to interpret that as him meaning Sweden had an attack last night, not a report on Sweden's attacks over the last few years from last nigh, despite his clarification, so they can tally it up as another "lie". The same petty spin is used to "debunk" the Fox report, the MSM can keep repeating that "There's nothing wrong! Sweden is great!" but that doesn't somehow make it true. You don't just point to your own news articles upholding the party line to "debunk" whistleblowers blowing it open. There's ample evidence of both Sweden's epidemic of rape and violent crime, whose existence is entirely denied, and its direct and obvious connection to immigrants/refuges.

Last month, the police chief of Malmo posted on FB desperately asking for help to deal with the migrants' endless spree of murder, robbery and rape that the govenrment was pushing under the rug to stop "racism". I mean, a 60 minutes crew was fucking assaulted by refuges in the same town the year before when they tried to film a segment showing how peaceful and integrated these same refuges are. You are being lied to.

>>115534
> I mean, a 60 minutes crew was fucking assaulted by refuges in the same town the year before when they tried to film a segment showing how peaceful and integrated these same refuges are.

I'd laugh at the irony if the underlying problem didn't already make me mad.

>>115519
>dumb bimbo Kellyane Conway
>first woman to run a winning presidential campaign
>dumb
>dances circles around the media
>bimbo
>implying you have actual opinions on things
>implying its possible to think critically after public school in 2015

>>115558
>triggered
She had a prime opportunity to call CNN fake news at the height of their tables being turned on them:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/02/07/kellyanne-conway-cnn-is-not-fake-news-jake-tapper-intv-sot-lead.cnn/video/playlists/kellyanne-conway/

And the dumb bimbo tried to speak for Spicer putting "alternative facts" into his mouth and ruining his credibility on her idiotic behalf and giving some pithy talking point for the left, this after her "Bowling Green" massacre. Spicer didn't provide "alternative facts," he provided alternative sources to what the media was reporting, alternative to media non-facts.

>>115562
>someone pointed out how stupid I am
>t-t-triggered!

>>115558
>>115567
>dances circles around the media
Tha'ts a big assumption

>Can't into observations

It's really sad what happens in public school :(

Somebody help this guy. Its wrong to let people be like this.

>>115558

it's easy to win a presidential campaign when you reach out to everyone under the average IQ and tell them you'll bring in jobs

>but what kind of jobs mr trump?
>good jobs!
>great!

turns out all the jobs will be building iphones and ford focus's for $8/hour while mexico and china just go to trading with south america and russia respectively.

i mean, his whole campaign was based on name-calling and slander. 'crooked hillary', 'lying ted', etc. then he has the audacity to criticize ted cruz for not endorsing his campaign when he won the primary.

we were so close to real globalization, and then this guy (for no real reason) wants us to 1. take us back into the 1950s and 2. make us look like we're the BITCH of the world because we're scared of a few brown guys living in tents out in the middle east

>>115579
>it's easy to win a presidential campaign

>republicans won bevause they're dumb

>his whole campaign was based on name-calling and slander
This one is painful to read

>globalization is a good thing

>muh xenophobia

Damn that was really something else. You're wrong about everything btw.

Kinda cool. You have potential. I guess.

>>115580
I remember when I was that ignorant. It was amazing. Every time I googled something, I'd find a whole new world of truth.

But it takes bravery, and it's painful.

Guess who owns Breitbart and help Trump win the Electoral Vote: >>115581

Also, Leftist Conspiracy Theory:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage

>>115579
Your real globalization didn't have any room in it for many segments of the population. The fact they turned on your golden utopia is a fault with it and your inability to make it something they would want to support.

It's just like immigration. Why would you expect countries with white majorities to want more of it when that increasingly comes with crime waves, preferential treatment, and a whole slew of sheltered leftists lecturing everyone over their bullshit cooked up in an echo chamber.

When your globalization represents inviting in hordes of cheap foreign labor, outsourcing jobs, and rapidly myopic demographic shift you should expect resistance, especially when it comes with a bunch of welfare recipients ready to take taxpayer money in exchange for providing endless lectures on white privilege.

Your globalization represents the anemic death of Western civilization because you were unwilling to shut down the extremists championing that cause under the auspicious process of globalization. Instead of an actual cautious march of self-interest we got a bullheaded rush into moralistic pretenses as to why and how we should all be happy to surrender our culture and livelihoods. Globalization's failure is your fault. The extremist right only ever makes gains when the extremist left has shown itself for what it is.

>>115330
>CNN went out of their way to give Trump and Hillary equally

Please stop this. It aint natural.

>>115582
I wish I could go back to be honest

>>115585
>Breitbart is Pro Trump

Okay, and bears shit in the woods.

>>115658
Breitbart is pro-America and pro-truth cluck.

>>115650
Shut up and enjoy your amino acid gruel, Cypher.

>>115658
But BreitBart is owned by a Hedge Fund corporation, so it make fucking sense.

>>115672
Statistics don't back all that up mate. Most non-R Americans disapprove of him. America is more then just red states, we're a mix of everything. But then, maybe that'll come to an end if you guys get Civil War II like so many of you guys seem to want.

Remember when Obama did this exact thing with Fox News?

>>115269
Good thing for Trump then, Eh?

>>115674
How many times do you people need it explained to you that disapproval for the idiot that Trump is is not the same thing as disapproval for the ideas and policies he's appealing to?

Take the issue of sanctuary cities. Even in blue states those opposing them are an overwhelming majority.

The people who seem to want a second Civil War are those rioting in the streets, justifying political violence with all sorts of mental gymnastics, and even seriously entertaining secession movements. None of those things are coming from the right at the moment.

>>115696
Pretty sure it didn't happen like that.

>>115720
yeah, it was worse.

Obama targeted the truth, whereas Trump is targeting liars and traitors.

>>115714
>the idiot that Trump is
oh man, the delusional hubris on this retard right here. get a reality check mate.

>>115726
Reality is offensive

>>115696
No?

>>115722
http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/foxs-white-house-bans-fox-news-story-completely-unravels/

Pretty sure even the part where it was reported the other news outlets would protest unless Fox News was invited was bunk. It's a good story that makes Fox News seem as legitimate as the rest. At least, that's my conjecture.

>>115726
Be honest anon, you know deep down Trump is most likely not anywhere near the sharpest tool in the box. I'm all for many of his stated policies, but the man himself leaves a lot to be desired.

>>115738
A man doesn't get to that level of financial or political success by being dumber than you are, irregardless of whatever sophistry you pull out of your ass to try and justify your inadequacies compared to him.

>>115741
He gets to be rich by having rich parents and living in a country where the super rich never fear downward social mobility as a result of going bankrupt multiple times.
As far as becoming president, he clearly has some talent in marketing himself and establishing an attractive narrative.
He still acts like a manchild though.

>>115743
>he clearly has some talent in marketing himself and establishing an attractive narrative.
>He still acts like a manchild though.
How interesting. The troglodyte seems to be capable of understanding Trump manufactures a certain image and narrative of himself, yet is unable to understand that Trump's image and narrative is manufactured. Let's hear what more he has to say. We have much we could learn from his culture.

>>115730
True. Black people have a lower average IQ and one of them is fucking your gf.

>>115743
Trump doesn't get hit with huge loses for bankruptcy because he has 500 other companies that were built by himself that are not going bankrupt.

"daddy's money" can only take you so far. You don't become a super successful businessman with money alone.

>>115741
I'm interested in policies and ideas, not hero worship anon. If Trump is the one to facilitate the policies I like I will be happy with him, but I'm not going to grovel over the idea of him until that starts happening. I'm probably on your side with a majority of the issues, I'm just cautious about this kind of thing after watching my generation fap itself into a coma over Obama strictly over the person and not his actual policies.

>>115771
>become a super successful businessman

He underperformed the market In business-speak, that means he lost money. Were he to have tried to build his fortune from bank loans, he wouldn't have been able to pay back interest, and banks would no longer give him loans Oh wait, they don't anyway (look it up -- literally all Americans bank refuse to give Trump a loan since his bankruptcies, which is why he has to go to friends and foreign dictators for capital).

Honestly, him branding specific organizations "fake" just makes those specific organizations look like they are threatening to him, or in other words, that they are not only legit but influential, and therefore orgs whose publications and broadcasts a discerning citizen should be paying close attention to, not ignoring.

>>115768

back to pol/reddit, faggot

>>115816
Only if nobody has ever heard of them. The monkey wrench that turns your entire thought upside down is everyone and their mother knows what all these publications/networks are, what they represent, and what they will have to say.

Trump isn't driving anyone to read the NYT or watch CNN that wasn't already doing it.

>>115811
>literally all Americans bank refuse to give Trump a loan since his bankruptcies, which is why he has to go to friends and foreign dictators for capital).
lmao how deep into the CNN-brainwashing are you?

>>115827
At that point, I think it's just intellectual and professional insecurity.

>>115782
Trump has already made heavy progress on a good portion of the policies laid out in his 100 day contract and so far has not reneged on a single campaign policy.

www.track-trump.com

you've got a computer and you're accessing the internet, there's no excuse to be misinformed.

This just in! NYT is fake news:
>>115763
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>>115882
So you've got a tracker to show that Trump's only picked low hanging fruit so far. Thanks!

>>115822
If you had a gf she would be cheating on you

>>115827
>>115880

That's why I told you to look it up.

liberal rags:
fortune.com/2016/03/21/donald-trump-bank-loans/
wsj.com/articles/when-donald-trump-needs-a-loan-he-chooses-deutsche-bank-1458379806
more general overview (but opinion): dailynewsbin.com/opinion/deeply-in-debt-to-russians-donald-trump-may-only-be-running-for-president-to-avoid-bankruptcy/25398/

>>115906
And Hillary is running a satanic pedophile ring


What's your point

>>115906
nothing in those articles says anything about "not being able to get loans from US"
he's just choosing other money lenders because they give him better deals.
so in your mind it's better to not go and find the best deal you can possibly get?

>>115883
>>>115763(Cross-thread)
This just in, Gateway Pundit is a conspiracy bias site: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10eA5-mCZLSS4MQY5QGb5ewC3VAL6pLkT53V_81ZyitM/mobilebasic

>>115986
This just in, it doesn't make a difference if someone told you an outlet is 'tainted'. The content of their article is what's important - unless you believe they fabricated they somehow either the NY Times article or CNN's transcript of Trump's speech, that NY Times was caught lying is still a fact.

It only speak to the sorry state of our reputable fake news that it takes a fucking tabloid to expose them like any self respecting journalist should.

>>116007
So just because you say nyt is fake news doesn't make it so, right?