Lithuania took a swing at Russian territory and wants to take

Is this it anons? Ww3?

>>105939

yep. Merkel refuses to make any forign politics so now such fucks pop up and decide what to do with the world instead.

i wonder why this fuck came up with this shit out now. reminding Trump, he has to pay Lithuanians bills?

>>105923
I looked this up.

Why are only Russian and non-MSM news outlets reporting it? Why isn't it all over the internet?

Additionally, what the fuck is Lithuania really going to do to Russia? The EU and US would drop them so fast if they decide to provoke a war with a somewhat unstable nuclear state.

I'm rather skeptical of the whole story.

>>105951

because none else gives a flying fuck about american army landing in former soviet countries.

>>105953
People do give a shit about it though. I hear both people on the anti-establishment left and right bitching about it

>>105956
>People do give a shit about it though.

define "people". because all bitching i hear so far are some losers who want but cant into real politics due their money is still not in USA.

>>105951
obviously you've uncovered an MSM conspiracy to make Putin and Russia look like villains after Lithuanian aggression provokes them to annex the state!

>>105951

>Why are only Russian and non-MSM news outlets reporting it? Why isn't it all over the internet?

This guy, Linas Balsys, doesn't even have an English Wikipedia page (there is one for a paralympian of the same name) and just searching his name in google gives me few results in English. He's just so small time that what he says doesn't really matter, or at least doesn't matter much to the English speaking world. It matters more to the Russians (probably because they want to keep stoking up this idea that the west is out to get them) so they went with the story.

This probably the equivalent of some random Congressional representative talking shit, it's just one guy who wants to grandstand so he looks good but doesn't represent the rest of Congress, let alone the rest of the government. So the only people who care would be his local constituents and maybe the national stage, but certainly not the international stage. As far as I can tell, he's basically the Ted Cruz of Lithuania.

>>105961
Just off the top of my head:
Greenwald over on the Intercept will usually take Russia's side in any conflict between them and the US.
Kyle Kulinski over on Secular Talk believes that any antagonistic gesture towards Russia is a master plan to start a war to distract the American people from Hillary losing the election.

But let's put the American troop thing into perspective. We deployed a couple thousand troops after those nations requested it, which is enough for a symbolic gesture, but hardly enough for an invasion force. Yeah, Russia has a right to be afraid of being surrounded by an antagonistic power block, but then, so do all those former Soviet states it keeps screwing with.

>>105965

thats the fun thing about east european politicians. they all speak perfect english (mostly with virginian accent) and start waves of shitstorm but you will find a shit about them in english medias or sources. his Seim website was enforced to publish about him by the court. and he literally had 2 lawyers checking and approving each word published there. on other side there is ukrainian website peacekeeper, where the NATO servers in Canada publish black lists and death orders about pro russian or neutral politicians in east europe. you will find there everything. even the last travel destinations before people even went on vacation or to the meeting.

>>105951
> Additionally, what the fuck is Lithuania really going to do to Russia?

Admittedly nothing, but the guy is still right; it had never been Russian clay until the Soviets took over in 1945 A.D. and ought to be returned to Lithuania.

>>105985

i call you a chill

>>105923

note how the Lithuanian fuck gives a shit about population in Kaliningrad. he talks only about territories.

>>105985
Nah, we'd be having continuous wars if we operated on that sort of philosophy, which with nukes and all, would probably be the end of humankind. Besides, that's the same logic that Russia is using to attack and destabilize their neighbors.

>>105992

i am waiting for 5 years of proofs where russians attacked and destabilized their neighbors. and dont come at me with that "crimea was ukrainian" shit.

>>105997
https://www.rt.com/news/crimea-defense-russian-soldiers-108/

This was after months of saying there were no Russian troops in Ukraine, and was pretty much the last time I was willing to give Putin the benefit of the doubt when it comes to international relations.

>>106000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=37

>>106000
>This was after months of saying there were no Russian troops in Ukraine

said by whom? there were always russian troops in ukraine your fuckwit. black fleet and shit. yo shiteating faggot.

>>105991
> i call you a chill

Is that good or bad?

>>105992
> Nah, we'd be having continuous wars if we operated on that sort of philosophy,

Border changes can be done peacefully and depending on the situation, should be done.

> Besides, that's the same logic that Russia is using to attack and destabilize their neighbors.

In the case of Crimea, the Russian are in the right and they’re pretty much in in the right with the Donbass also.

I’m all for the Ukrainians going off and doing their own thing, they’ve been the red headed step-child of the Russians for too long but they’d probably be best off cutting a deal and letting Crimea and the Donbass go.

>>106003

you do realize that with russians leaving ukraine mean only 3 former polish districkts will be the "ukraine".

>>106001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEaw6ktxg-8&ab_channel=RussiaInsider

>>106002
>said by whom?
Putin?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/04/putin-says-no-russian-troops-east-ukraine-2014417132436806530.html

>>106007
yeah, you CIA shill cuck, not the same thing. its not like ukraine didnt forfeit the right to be independent when it decided to be a western puppet state and stab their good friends russia in the back, and its not like the us wasn't their overthrowinfg THE DEMOCRATICY elected president to place leftist fascist in power

>>106005
>you do realize that with russians leaving ukraine mean only 3 former polish districkts will be the "ukraine".

Can you rephrase that?

If you mean the pre-WWII eastern lands of Poland, those are gone along with the Poles who used to live there and Poles today know this. They’re not looking to carve chunks off Ukraine, that’s just RT propaganda.

>>106009
> their good friends russia

Ивaн, please.

>>106011
>.02 burgher shekels have been deposited in your bank account

>>106010
Can confirm.

Apart from a few delusional >muh lwów faggots no one else has claims on the Ukraine.

The Poles who lived there are gone, millions of them were relocated to former Prussian lands (mainly near Wrocław) between 1946 and 1950.

http://www.halgal.com/graphics/PUR/PUR_map_inflowpop1.jpg

>>106013

Was Obama and Hillary’s Neocon State Dept. and CIA involved in the break away of Ukraine?

Sure, but there’s no smoke without a fire; the Ukrainians are sick and tired of being Russia’s bitch and want a better life, that they can see happening just over their western border.

>>106016
>The Poles who lived there are gone, millions of them were relocated to former Prussian lands (mainly near Wrocław) between 1946 and 1950.

The post-WWII forced population transfers of various Central and Eastern Europeans by the Soviets into their own respective countries, is one of the few good results of Soviet Communism, as it eliminated hundreds of years of ethnic strife by insuring homogenous nations.

Sure, all the countries that were subject to these population transfers, had their own ideas on where the borders ought to be but in this case, what's done is done.

In Ukraine, a similar situation applies; they really ought to give up Crimea and Donbass and move on to improving life for the Ukrainian people.

>>106007
>east-ukraine
>all ukraine inclusive crimea

top kek CIA chill confirmed

>>106010
>those are gone along with the Poles

i can confirm that never in 300 000 years of ukrainian race ukrainians were that close to polish jews and canadian citizenship ever.

>>106029
>by the Soviets

keking hitler.

you do realize that Poland decided itself to relocate the polish colonists back into their mainland.

>>105923

sounds good.

>>106037
>decided itself
that was a cooperation

>>106039
>cooperation

with polacks?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders%27_Army

>>106045
>The ethnic displacement of Poles was agreed to by the Allied leaders – Franklin D. Roosevelt of the U.S., Winston Churchill of the United Kingdom, and Joseph Stalin of the USSR – during the conferences at both Tehran and Yalta.

Relocation was initiated by the Soviets and the Polish People's Republic government wanted to do it anyway.

>>106050
>Relocation was initiated by the Soviets and the Polish People's Republic government wanted to do it anyway.

The "Polish People's Republic" was made up of Russian born Poles, ethnic Russians and Jews, all of whom were life long Soviet communists.

That said, the post-WWII population transfers were ultimately to to Poland's benefit, as the nation is now 98% Polish and they no longer have any ethnic problems.

>>106037
>Poland decided itself to relocate the polish colonists back into their mainland.

Yeah, they "decided" at the point of a Soviet bayonet...

Why does Lithuania even want kalingrad? What claim do they even have to it. It's filled with russians, used to (Germanic) prussian, before that was populated by (Baltic) prussians.

>>106072
You can't be this ignorant and summarize PPR with just one sentence.

1, They hated Jews and actively try to get rid of them. Moreover no Jew had a high ranking position in the government.
2. Ethnic Russians kept control over DoD. by 1956 hard Soviet control was replaced by the soft one.
3. Every party leader till 1970 was a commie during times of the Second Polish Republic.

Yes, without Soviet help the PPR would never be created, but that doesn't change fact that this was a government of Poland de facto.

>>106086
>
> > The "Polish People's Republic" was made up of Russian born Poles, ethnic Russians and Jews, all of whom were life long Soviet communists.
>
> You can't be this ignorant and summarize PPR with just one sentence.

If you’re looking for a doctoral thesis on a Tibetan finger-painting board, you’re in the wrong place but it’s a perfectly accurate description of the post-WWII Polish communist government nonetheless.

> They hated Jews and actively try to get rid of them.

This wasn’t until the 1950s after Stalin died, the immediate post-war Polish communist government was implanted by the Soviets whole-cloth from the U.S.S.R. and contained few Poles to begin with and virtually no native born Poles at all, which is the reason the Poles chased out the remaining Jews; they were all pro-Soviet and mostly foreign born carpet baggers.

> Ethnic Russians kept control over DoD. by 1956 hard Soviet control was replaced by the soft one.

See above.

> Every party leader till 1970 was a commie during times of the Second Polish Republic.

No shit Sherlock, it was obvious by then that their choice was either working within the Soviet imposed system or nothing.

> Yes, without Soviet help the PPR would never be created, but that doesn't change fact that this was a government of Poland de facto.

It was only a government of Poles after Stalin died and the Poles got rid of the Russians and Jews who had been calling the shots up till then.

>>105939
Well, Putin did recall all non-essential embassy employees and family world wide. That alone should have been a sign.