Only top tier aesthetic AC allowed in this thread please have

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Hhnnhhhggg

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I can't even decide, there's too many good looking ones.

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Only THE MOST BEAUTIFUL!

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Fock off plebs

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>>989005
>Gee Bee
Superior Caudron comming through.

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Prettiest plane: Beechcraft Model 17 Staggerwing. GIS your own pic. I also think these look OK too.

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>>989663
>Beechcraft
Well that looks like something out of Crimson Skies so it's alright by me.

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Out of the way kids.

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>>989668

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Noone's posted the Spitfire yet.

>>990167
>i will never fly on an ilyushin 62

:C

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>>989741
Where can I buy one?

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awwwwww yess

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>>988096

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There's hardly any good pictures of the non combat variants, but this thing has to have the sexiest wing root in existance.

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And another victim to politics and interdepartmental fighting.

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>>990402
Just like this one.

>>990402
that thing was a piece of crap

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>>990419
Clearly the F111 was superior in every way :^)

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Basis for the Learjet

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Upgraded Morane 540, replaced more or less immediately after the war with surplus Mustangs.

>>990394
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/list/category/6/piston-single-aircraft/manufacturer/navion

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>>991024
Outside the fact that I'd have to fly them over that is surprisingly affordable for a plane.

Not Piper Cub tier but still.

>>991031
yeah, planes are a way more affordable if you don't buy new, and there are a lot of beautiful classic designs out there that people just want to see preserved for the next generation

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>>991035
Just surprised given that they're pretty damn expensive over here usually.

Then again outside of looking at some Cubs and other "standard" stuff I've not done much research. Issue is just those damn maintenance costs and all.

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>>991041
I LOVE radial engines, but I've heard they are financially devastating to own/run... getting an A&P cert might be worth it in the long run if I ever wanna own a flying relic

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>>991076
>Radials
I have no clue, there's a bunch around here in the form of a few warbirds and a couple of Stearmans. But I doubt those or the Avenger and Sea Fury are cheap to maintain in general.

That's single engines anyhow, I know the Ju-52s solved their maintenance costs by having a lot of it be volunteer work. I wish I lived closer, apparently you don't need any prior training for them to teach you to work on those engines.

>A&P
That is?

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>>991088
A&P is Airframe and Powerplant - Aircraft Mechanic certification

My father actually got his A&P at an Aviation trade school/high school in NY back in the 70's, by the time he graduated he was a certified aircraft mechanic.. he worked on naval vessels on the east coast, but never went into aviation... got married, lost his way I guess

I followed somewhat in his footsteps, started flying at 15, passed my PPL checkride two weeks before I graduated, I'm working on my commercial now

sorry for the life story lol

Anyways, pic related is my favorite warbird, hopefully there will still be airworthy P-47's by the time I can get my shit together

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>>991098
It's a pain to get here IIRC, EASA or at least FOCA demands that you first get another mechanic license (i.e. car) and then move on.

Still working on that PPL here though, with a long commute it's a bit of a pain to get hours in, but I'm sure it'll come along.

Well if anything 47s weren't rare at least, how many are still airworthy though?

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>>991103
If you have the resources available to you, I would look into coming to the U.S. for your PPL. Training is considerably more affordable here (especially on the west coast) than in Europe.

An FAA issued license also allows you to fly in most countries around the globe, I believe...

I'm not trying to be snobby about U.S. aviation or anything, but our skies are truly free compared to most of the world, it's just what I've heard, dunno if it's true or not.

Either way, keep at it bro. No matter where in the world you fly, every penny(euro penny?) is worth it.

I know there are a lot of P-47s still out there, don't know how many, I don't really track that sort of thing lol.. I think it would give me anxiety if I started to see the numbers dwindling.

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>>991128
I'm doing my hours on a Tecnam that's 150.- for the hour, it's already pretty cheap. It's just the lack of time that has me take quite a while.

As for the license, you need to take some hours in Switzerland to get it approved here. That said a lot of people go to Florida to do their PPL in a few weeks.

No clue about the airspace situation, Switzerland is relatively crowded in terms of controlled airspace, but if anything France is free, provided you speak french.

The only really annoying thing here is the lack of seaplanes despite the large amount of water. It's sort of prohibited. Although recently they added some harbour to the AIP so maybe there is hope.

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>>991133
How many hours do you have so far? And how many hours are required for a license there? ... aaand.. what is the breakdown of required hours? (i.e. how much time under the hood/night/x-country/etc.) lol i'm really curious

I think vacationing in Europe in a small private plane would be awesome.. hopping from country to country, trying all the different types of booze and women. Seriously though, I imagine you get some beautiful views flying in France.

As for seaplanes, there's a company that just got approved and is starting to manufacture amphibious aircraft not too far from where I live.. I kinda want to go test fly one.. it looks fun, but it's around $200k

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>>990364
Early war spits are quite a sight, I prefer Griffon's tho

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>>991147
>oval wing
>regular canopy
Alright you are allowed to stay.

>>991144
I think around 7-10, I have to update my logbook.

Technically I should know this stuff because I work with regulations, but I don't really. 45 hours total, 10 or so solo, and I think one or two "long" flights plus introduction to the Alps.

No night flying or anything special I think. Mostly because there's only one or two aerodromes that do Night VFR.

Yeah if you have a good travel plane you can probably do some easy city hopping. Looking at the UK and their amateur air races though.

Someone posted a company that's going to sell a more modern interpretation of the Grumman Goose as a kit plane.

Can be found here:
http://www.gweduck.com/index.html

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>>991168
>oval
Wow I'm a retard, I meant to spell elliptical

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sorry for the ICON shitpost... it looks like it's fun to fly, but is not all that aesthetically pleasing IMO, I kinda forgot what the thread topic was.. I'll make up for with this

>>991168
I saw that, its a really good looking kit.. I couldn't find info on pricing though, I guess you have to contact them for the pricing info.

The performance numbers seem interesting. Two 300hp Lycoming IO & LIO 540, 1000nm range at 120 knots and 22gph.. 600lbs full fuel useful load...

I only have my land rating, so I don't know much about flying boats, but that sounds about right... sounds like the perfect pleasure/adventure plane. The service ceiling is FL180 and single engine ceiling is 2,500 MSL (yikes), but it is a boat I guess, more options for landing off airport.

>No night flying or anything special I think. Mostly because there's only one or two aerodromes that do Night VFR.

That's unfortunate, night flying is so chill, whenever I have the spare cash for an hour or two I usually go up at night.

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>>991187
>Long as fuck nacelles
It always happens with turboprops because they're so much lighter and it always looks goofy as hell.

Given that it's essentially a Goose, it's really just the Sea Duck all over again. Which is all anyone could ever wish for.

Only issue is that these things are probably pretty large, so finding a hangar is going to be expensive unless you live at a lake.

>Night VFR
Might just get the IR after a bit to use that at night anyhow. But we'll see, for now it's the PPL.

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I'm a warbird person but I've always had a soft spot for this beauty.

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>>991193
I have my IR, but I'm not current, and I haven't done a proficiency check... actually I haven't flown in over a year :( ... so much BS happened to me in the past year... but I'm staying positive, I'll get back up there again

Yeah, the long nacelles are kinda weird, but the turboprops give the plane, which already has great utility, even more capabilities.. the operating cost tho.... on the other hand, I would not mind at all getting my hands on one of those Gweduck kits.. that plane looks fun as hell

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>>991203
That's unfortunate, hope things get better again then. It's not good to be grounded.

We had a hangar fire a few weeks ago which burned three Pipers of our flight group along with an old timer Boussard and a replica Fieseler Storch plus some others. But that was sad.

Then someone wrecked the gear on one of the remaining planes, leaving us with a single plane that was overdue for it's big checks. Still got to fly, but not as much as planned for these holidays.

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>>991213
yeah, I really did it to myself.. just been busy putting my money in other places and it couldn't be helped, but the dream to be paid to fly is still alive

Part of it was similar to your situation, the Arrow I was doing my commercial stuff in was totaled.. the owner/mechanic found huge cracks in the main wing brace.. I ended up starting the multi-engine to possibly get my commercial multi, did 3 flights in that then family emergencies happened like 4 in a row and the cash was all gone

I'm sorry to hear about your school's fleet, even if you don't own the planes, seeing one you trained in get wrecked/destroyed feels terrible.

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>>991220
The aviation virus is cruel because it costs way too much money to sustain. Been lucky with the money as is. But I don't plan for anything higher than a CPL anymore. Tried one of those assessments for funded trainings at the Airlines and didn't get through, costs way too much money to fund it privately and still leaves you with no hours. So really it's a ticket to Ryanair for slave wages.

That said it is just sad for the Boussard becausethat was an old timer that recently got a bew engine. And it's sad for the Storch because that was an affordable replica (rotax engine and 90% scale) that was allegedly flown very little so one could imagine that with pulling a few strings I could've flown that at least.

>>991213
I love this plane.

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>>991391
Would you a Folgore though?

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Surprised no one has posted the F15E.

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>>991457
>E

>>991461
That's some lotus pod photoshop shit right there. *shudder*

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>>991464

>>991418
thicc

>>991488
Why is the top painted gloss and the bottom satin? I've seen this a lot, but surely it must be stupid to make the plane glare all over the place if you're bothering to paint it in ground camouflage in the first place? Or is there a drag issue with matte paint or something?

>>991488
That's not a G2

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>>991491
I thought this was an aesthetics thread.

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>>991495
Then why would you post 109s at all?

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And because I just remembered I had it, here's a B17 with Merlin engines.

>>991553
>Merlin engines
What in the shit fuck did they do that for?

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>>991556
No clue, perhaps the UK wanted some, or they wanted to try what worked for the P-51.

>>991553
It's called the XB-38 and equipped not with Merlin, but with the similar-but-turbocharged Allison engine famously responsible for the complete high altitude performance failure of the Airacobra. The prototype proved similarly useless at high altitude and the idea was abandoned with only one prototype built.

>>991553
>>991556
>>991560
Better power-to-weight ratio, maybe? Maybe slightly less drag, too.

>>991599
>Allison at it again
What the hell were they even doing throughout WWII?

>>991606
makin' bank equipping all the P-40s

:^)

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>>991551
>not posting Dora's
Plz m9.
Also, the 109 is like the Mustang of warbirds. Easy to build and mass produced. Even though I love radials, the 109 has sleek lines, a simple design and simple proportions . Radian engined planes have a front-heavy design.

>>989727
fuck me m8 that's beautiful. and almost affordable-ish

>>991606
Benjamins. Lots and lots of Benjamins. What I want to know is how the US war machinery people could be so daft as to put themselves in a position where they had only one (1!) vee engine to choose from. And then end up with loads and loads of fighters that were stratified hovercraft once they found out that the engine was actually pretty shit...
Euros bailed you out big time with the Merlin, bro.

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>>991697
Indeed. I hope to own one someday.

>Mig-15s for sale priced less than a new 172
What's the catch? Insurance? Operating costs?

>>992027
Let's see, one is a cold war relic well past her airframe lifetime and the other is brand new.
One is a swept wing military jet with an ejection seat the no-one is rated to fly, the other is a small prop that everyone and their grandmother can abuse.
One is a practical, comfortable utility plane that seats multiple people and the other an uncomfortable G-suit experience for one. And the luggage will have to go under the wings. Just don't accidentaly release it on anyone.

Nope, can't see any reason why a banged up, fifty year old MiG 15 would be cheaper, anon. Sure is a big mystery, anon. Sherlock Holmes stuff, this is. In'nit, anon?

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>>992034

>>992027
bazillions in operating costs,like one or two thousand an hour, versus 80 to 100 for a 172.

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Did someone say top tier aesthetic?

>>993454
Damnit VeganRider! I said top tier, not god tier!

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>>988096
Not the best looking plane I know but I thought this is a nice place to ask.

Is there a place to compare the "flight characteristics" across diff planes?

I went on this Embraer 170 and it was MUCH more quiet inside than the airbus a320 and SAAB 2000(turboprop).

The turbulance was free-fall tier fucked up on emrbaer though.

>>993454
>>993456

>samefagging this hard

at least they waited four minutes before posting a reply :/

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It's so beautiful. I cry knowing I'll never get to fly one (unless I quit my job on the 900 and go work at Silver [yeah right])

>>991599
The XB-38, being a large aircraft, was able to use the turbo-supercharged version from the P-38 - not the crippled supercharger-only version from the early P-51s and the P-39.

>>991556
It was a testbed in case there was a shortage of the Wright R-1820 Cyclone engines. Turns out, there was never a shortage of the radial engines, but there WERE shortages of the Allison and Merlin engines, so they never built any more.

>>993503
>implying there is only one person on /n/ who likes Batty
>implying half the board isn't obsessed with her

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Maybe a bit dumb, but I absolutely love regional airplanes and travel. There's something incredibly intimate about being in a noisy, small airplane buzzing around the United States, a big difference in comparison to the many international flights I took throughout my young years. Decided to write a little something about my first time in one of these city hoppers:

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"Ladies and gentlemen, the captain has turned on the seatbelt sign. Please return to your seat and fasten your seatbelts."

I shake awake with a snort. My head is spinning, and for a brief second I forget where I am.
With the buzzing remains of the coma-like sleep finally subsiding, I look out the window. It was near midnight, and the sparse lights of Eastern Maryland were passing by below. We were lower than I expected, and I kick myself for not waking up sooner. I rub my face. I check on my little brother next to me, and he's still knocked out. My 17-year old self feels pretty cool, flying without our parents. I figure I'll let him sleep.
As we begin our approach into SBY, I can hear the airplane getting itself ready, almost as if it was waking up itself. It's an incredibly comforting sound. The engines calm down, and we start our final approach. All I can see is darkness below, but I know we're close. Before I know it, I see the christmas lights that make up the runway of the tiny airport. We touch down firmly. The engines go in reverse, and sparks fly off of our wheels.
I rub my face again, and look at my watch. The drive home to Milton will take about an hour. I nudge my little brother awake, and start to pack our things.

>>994037
Comfy read. Traveled a lot by plane with my little bro when I was a kid, mostly long haul then domestic transfer.

>>994037
I flew the 200 for air wisconsin, I'm at a new regional now. It sucks so bad. I'd say you're definitely in the minority enjoying regional aircraft.

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>>994058
I've flown the 200 into Reno once, and was pleasantly surprised. Crew seemed happy, and the airplane seems like a fun little thing. Really lives up to its "Barbie Jet" nickname. Window placement was odd though.

I'm working on my PPL right now with intent on working commercial, and a part of me romanticizes the first few years with the regionals. I know the conditions suck, but getting in will definitely give me a euphoric sense that I "made it". Is there any truth to this?
Also, what do you fly now, then?

>>994223

E175 at a different regional... did I feel like I made it? No, because I knew I was going to make it by the time I was flight instructing, I was just waiting the 2 years of instructing to get my shot at part 121 flying

>>993468
What do you mean by flight characteristics?

Usually if you want quiet during your flight sit at or before the engines.

Want to feel less turbulence? Sit in between the wings.

Turboprops are louder then jets.

What its like on board depends heavily on the airline, after all that it's more of a crap shoot.

Embraer 170/190 are the most comfiest planes you can fly.best ergonomics for passengers under 6foot 8in

Fokker 100 when you sit as far forward as possible are also incredibly comfy.

>>988096
my dad's been on the ten fleet at netjets for 15 years, so he's almost certainly flown the airplane pictured. neat.

>>997424
Im flying short haul currently, should I try to change to biz side? I have a few small kids though.

I already got one biz jet typerating but that didnt pan out at the time.

I've kinda always wanted to work less.

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>>988096
>a fucking cessna
>not a learjet

I'll take that a e s t h e t i c card from you, thanks.

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Speed is the mother of a e s t h e t i c

>>1000055
That screamer is a tad bit far from aesthetic aircraft in 2016 - unless of c you're rated, then I understand.

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brrrrrrrrrrrap

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>>988525
Huh?

>>1000329
Goodnight, sweet prince ;(

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>A E S T H E T I C
>No Mikoyan-Gurevich 25
C'mon

>>1000557

What I think you're getting at is because the engine is connected to the wing not the fuselage.

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>>1000557
Hondajet norm.

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>>1000663
This however...

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Thunderbird Six.

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>>1000329

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E2 Series.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/embraer-flies-third-e190-e2-prototype-428864/

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Ahhh...what could've been. Cessna XMC.

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>>1000916
>>988096
Honestly, Cessna Airliner when? The 208 sorta counts, but Cessna has the name to possibly do something amazing.

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>>1000953
>not checking the website

http://cessna.txtav.com/en/citation/hemisphere

Stop being such a pleb and believe. It is SOON brother. This pretty much is a regional jet.

>>1001052
As much as I appreciate your shared enthusiasm,

>Capacity:12 passengers
>Range: 4500NM (~3x that of the CRJ1000)
>Thin as fuck cabin

Granted, in a dedicated passenger configuration you could get more seats in there, but this airplane is simply not suited for actual passenger operations. They have the capabilities, but this airplane is not what we're looking for.

>>1001059
>Capacity: 12 passengers
Wut? You might be right, but this looks like it could carry more than that. The other (slightly smaller looking) citations top out at 12 but this looks like a step up from that. If it isn't a regional jet then I would wager it's only a hair off.

>>1001060

Like BBJ looks like it can carry 148 pax. C'mon. Renders are renders.

>>998135
I can't tell you what's right for you, but I know he likes his job, and the pilots at netjets just got a new contract that's pretty sweet.

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Beechcraft Starship
Burt Rutan/Scaled Composites
>>1000557
>>1000557

>>1000081
Nice

>>1000557
This was the result of flow testing/simulation at Mississippi State who co-developed and assembled early planes. So it's either MS redneck engineering at it's finest or just dumb ... i can't really tell.

>>1003162
Why is it so boxy?

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>>1003433
The cabin is unpressurized and the boxy shape maximize useful space for cargo

>>1000634
That plane is an ugly shitheap look at the cockpits fucking gross

>>1003447
That's just like, your opinion, man.

Also, you don't know shit about anything REEEE

>>1000695
jesus christ

>>1003398
>Starship

that plane suffered a death to early in to its career

>>1003668
i am actually slightly amazed that that flies

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>>988902
m
>>989737
y
>>991031
/n/
>>991103
i
>>991133
g
>>991168
g
>>1003398
a

also how has nobody posted the only good aircraft to come out of Europe since the Vulcan?

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Douglas X-3 'stiletto'

>>1000634
I love the plane, it gets the commieblock aesthetic just right

>>991418
More like this?

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Ironically enough the aircraft actually crashed and killed all on board.