Alright /n/ why didn't the Monorail/Suspended Monorail take

>>985764
What are the advantages of a monorail system over a conventional light rail transport?

I hear those things are awfully loud.

>>985773
Not on your life my hindu friend!

>>985767
>>985764
Monorails or suspended monorails can make sense in very particular situations where you need light rail capacity, where an isolated line that can't be joined with any other line isn't an issue, and where and conventional light rail (ie tram) is inadequate for some reason, like very narrow streets that make a ROW impossibru or some other situation that calls for an elevated line. It's somewhat cheaper to build an elevated monorail than an elevated light rail.

So in very exceptional situations it can make sense as a sort of elevated light rail line. Other than that it's a meme transport.

>>985778
One of the major problems would be switches--they're awfully difficult to do with a monorail. Most subways and light rail lines have trains going to different destinations that share some of the same tracks. Most monorails are loops.

>>985777
Is there a chance us brain dead slobs?

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>>985764
Except it did.

You just don't see news about transportation in countries far away.

Malaysia has one, São Paulo is building 3, UAE is building one, and there are others already built.

>>985817
>One of the major problems would be switches

Search Line 17 São Paulo Metro, its a monorail line with two branches

>>985767
This is Line 15 from São Paulo, notice how the construction site is confined only to the avenue median

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>>985865
Now this is a picture from line 1, which was built by cut and cover method.

The construction took 15 years, meaning that a avenue (where the hole is) was completely blocked for a entire decade.

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>>985767
>>985865
>>985869
And this is line 5, built with a TBM, while it doesn't need to close the entire avenue, it needs a large hole at every station. Notice that the avenue had two ways, one way was completely closed and the other lost a lane so buses can pass.

Monorails work just like elevated metros, with the same capacity, but it's easier to build, take less space and it's cheaper.

>>985823
You'll be given cushy jobs.

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>>985764
As you can see from this thread, a large reason, at least in the english speaking world, is that fucking music man parody. Yes, you have a goddamn cartoon influencing public policy.

Oh, and the longest monorail system in the world is in China, nor Japan. Pic related.

>>985817
>monorails are loops
No.

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I'm in favor of monorail as a legit mode of transport, provided that it is not half-assed done like the ones in Detroit, Las Vegas or Sydney.

Unlike light rail, it doesn't interrupt traffic flow, it would be cheaper to build than an elevated light rail and it can actually carries significant amoubt of passengers hip (more than 36,000 passengers per hour per direction).

It does have its weaknesses tho. Monorail has comparatively lower speed than metros/light metros,so it's not very suitable for a sprawling city, thud it's gard to find a monorail line with distance of more than 10 km. Also, some people think elevated monorail(or elevated rail in general) would ruin the cityscape. For conventional light rail/metros you can simultaneously have an elevated tracks outside of CBD, at grade tracks near national monunents or tourist hotspots and underground in CBD

>>985773
Not anymore I think. New monorail train models have similar noise level to rehular metros/light rail

The largest system is literally in China. Have my sage.

>>986044
>(more than 36,000 passengers per hour per direction).
running one train every 2 minutes that would mean each train carries 1200 pax, that's what an 8-car subway train carries.

You're obviously talking out your ass.

>>985865
>Malaysia has one, São Paulo is building 3, UAE is building one
oh wow all those countries known for their good public transit

NOT

>>985874
>Monorails work just like elevated metros, with the same capacity,
they usually have light rail capacity, if they are going to have heavy rail capacity there's no point in building a monorail over a conventional subway.

>but it's easier to build,
not really, judging by your pic

>take less space
you're building it under ground or elevated, what does it matter?

>and it's cheaper.
proprietary system doesn't allow for off-the-shelf rolling stock. Also maintenance is likely more expensive.

>>986065
>obviously talking out your ass
Not the other anon, but the Innovia 300 for one is spec'd at up to 8 car trains with 75 second headways. Which certainly could manage more than 36000pphpd. Wouldn't be comfortable though.
http://www.monorails.org/pdfs/INNOVIA%20300.pdf

>>986069
>they usually have light rail capacity
True, but they can have capacity up to somewhere between light and heavy rail. See above. Most installed monorail systems don't exactly push the limits of the tech.

>no point in building a monorail over a conventional subway
Money, money, money, money. Also money. Costs a shitton more money to build underground than it does to build elevated stuff. Takes much longer too. Sometimes a complete monorail system can be built within a single term of government if you push things a bit, and that can be important to actually ensure things get done.

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>>986069
>they usually have light rail capacity,

Its a train. It has the capacity you spec it.

>there's no point in building a monorail over a conventional subway.

>Wanting a large hole obstructing your city for 15 years
See >>985869

>not really, judging by your pic

The pic was taken in 2014, the works started in 2012. Part of the line is already operating since December.
>Pic related

>you're building it under ground or elevated, what does it matter?

Do you ever saw a subway construction?
>>985874

>>986065
>You're obviously talking out your ass.
Sums the responses in this thread.

>Monorails don't work, i saw on Simpsons!

>>986093
>>Wanting a large hole obstructing your city for 15 years
>building cut-and-cover and not TBM
>current year
nigga you high

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>>986109
NIGGA YOU RETARD

THE PIC IS A TBM

DO YOU THINK TBM APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE?

>Pic Campo Belo station Monorail x TBM interchange

>>986069
It is easier to build. The piers and beams aren't as thick as those in elevated light rail system and the thr beam doubles as the track for monorail, unlike light rail which needs additonal track laying process (once the viaduct is complete)

>>986120
>dat back hoe right next to the edge

>>986044
Detroit doesn't have a monorail.

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>>986138
>9 years ago...

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Despite all logic, Seattle managed to build a system that can collide with the opposite track. They tried to expand the network a few times but it's been nothing but one failure after another.

>>986197
Who cares? Link is undergoing major expansion.

>>986202
Yes obviously Link will be much, much better but that's kind of my point... There's almost zero advantage of a monorail over light rail.