How could we realistically create a High Speed Rail Network in

>>984371
Honestly I'd be too afraid to ride one in today's world. I work for a freight railroad and just the other day we heard about an Amtrak crashing into a barricade made on the tracks by some drunk fuckheads on a 4 wheeler. It's almost a guarantee in America that some degenerate is going to sabotage the rails just to watch it crash. We are used to freight railroads and most people don't even think about them, but give them something nice, shiny, fast and new and they'll want to fuck with it.

>>984371
earmark a trillion or so and decades later you might get a 40 mile line which is overpriced and under 80mph.

if land rights ever get sorted out.

>>984371
A nationwide one? Can't be done.

Separate ones for a handful of megaregions? State + federal buy in and/or infrastructure bank.

Start with the busiest flight routes.

>>984461
This.

HSR is a competitor to planes, cars aren't even in the match.

>>984461
>>984481
That ranges from oversimplified to flat out wrong.

You could look to the busiest REGIONAL air routes for cues about where HSR might succeed. Some of the busiest air routes in the US are transcontinental or otherwise long distance to the point where there is no possible way for HSR to be competitive.

>>984461
Chicago-NY is the busiest route with more then 4 million passengers. Flight takes 2 hours and there would be at least 2 more hours for check in and check out. With a car you need 12 hours. Distance is 800 miles a hight speed train with 250mp/h top speed could do this in less then 4 hours. So theoretically a high speed train would make sense.
It would just take many years to build and be costly.

>>984371
Have the Japanese build them for us, with all Japanese rolling stock and construction materials. Also have Japanese crews. Fuck European "high speed rail" and China too, the Japanese have proven to be the only people in the world who know how to build and operate them.

>>984564
What would actually happen is the NIMBYs across flyover land would oppose it unless it stopped in their "city"

So there'd be like a Cleveland stop and a Dayton detour and an Indianapolis stop and so on

Then, just as construction was wrapping up, an even more extreme far-right politician would get elected on a local level and order bulldozers to destroy the tracks and kick Big Gubmint off our backs. The whole project would be cancelled at the cost of trillions

Then rethugnican blogs everywhere would trumpet the success of Freedom over Tyranny and just goes to show you Big Gubmint can't do anything right

>>984564
No, it take more than 4 hours on HSR. Average speed is nowhere near 250 mph when you account for stops, the fact that rail is not a straight line, and that you can't operate at top speed on certain sections of the line.

>>984636
That's why I said "theoretically".
A stop in Cleveland would not hurt much. If there is enough demand another high speed link between Detroit and Indianapolis could be an option. You can at least make plans and tell them to build it later.

>>984636
>What would actually happen is the NIMBYs across flyover land would oppose it unless it stopped in their "city"
>So there'd be like a Cleveland stop and a Dayton detour and an Indianapolis stop and so on

This happens everywhere, especially Germany.
Also, having a station doesn't means the train has to stop there. It only means that there is more possibility for services, running a express and various low speed stoppers.

NY-Chicago would work if we had unlimited money to give to Japan to non-stop tunnel through the Appalachians and sell us superior rolling stock. We'd also need a more heavy handed gov't who would be willing to expedite the land buying process and wouldn't put up with BS objections. So basically we can dream about it.

LA - SF is also a busy flight route, with California High-Speed Rail there is a project

Routes between mayor east cost cities are busy as well.
Atlanta - Orlando
Atlanta-Chicago
Chicago-Washington DC
Atlanta - NY
Chicago -Minneapolis

seems there is enough demand

>>984564
Don't forget the time investment in getting to O'Hare or Midway in the first place from the city. Running out of Union Station would shave another hour off the time for people going city center to city center.

>>984577
I really like this idea, minus the construction materials being supplied by the Japanese. This is similar to the London Tube and how they hired the Americans after the Boston Subway was completed.

Keep the materials here though cause that's tax dollars for us plus transportation costs and pollution will be much less.

>>984577

That's just because they don't have scumbags trying to steal cables every night to make a quick buck. I'm pretty sure yanks would shoot out signal lights just for the shits and giggles too.

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Honestly? Businesses should just start serving only decent cities where you have low transport costs to get goods around. You can send a thousand small shipments out to every little spread out town-looking place (usually a splat of houses in higher density than the surrounding dribbles and highlighted with a fast food place and a gas station for the cages). Or you can transport to one city and subdivide to a few shops in there. ??? Economically speaking, pareta principle. 80% of the stores your goods are sent to (suburban/rural shitholes) only generate 20% of the sales, with small volume sold, low turnover, and high transport and networking cost. Abandon them. Cut them off completely. Thus per load sent, the transport cost is less, the profit is more. Economically these semirural/burb mush lands are a drain on everyone and everything, especially taxes for infrastructure. Cut them off goods wise and infrastructure wise. Build a high speed rail that ONLY connects the major cities, and ignore everything else. Everyone moves to the now convenient cities, the burbs die, we all prosper and our nation is Great Again. Oh, and only have stations in the downtowns, not the proximal burbs. Discourage the spread. Make personal cars illegal while we're at it. Bulldoze every house in the mushland that doesn't belong to an actual farmer/rancher or a forest ranger.

>>984903
If you connect these cities it would be some kind of basic east coast HSR grid.

>>984371
Somehow find military use for HSR.

Hype up military tension with Russia and China.

Scare legislators into voting for militarized HSR funding plans.

>>984371
>How could we realistically create a High Speed Rail Network in the United States?
A bit at a time. You don't try and solve the whole thing in one go. Once you've got some parts working, it'll be an easier sell (or not, depending on economics and so on).