Is kpop actually good or is it just a meme

if you like well produced pop music you'll probably like kpop
if you like cute girls and boys you'll probably like kpop
if you like really impressive choreography in music performances you'll probably like kpop

>>75197344
There's decent mainstream K-Pop out there mostly made by SM's flagship artists (Exo, SHINee, Red Velvet) and by Big Bang, the Chang Thunderwangs of K-Pop. But most K-Pop is watered down version of whatever shit is popular on US radio because they steal our producers (aka the Scandis who muck the radio up.)
There's not a lot of substance to be found because it's so manufactured for wide appeal to saesangs and uncle fans (aka K-Pop general who doesn't give a shit about the music, just the waifus.)

>>75197392
This

>>75197344
>if you like cute girls and boys you'll probably like kpop
This pretty much sums it up. Not much musically but makes it up visually.

I've always wondered it this too, OP. I just assumed that most people here were fapping since I doubt they can understand what's being sung and it's not like the music is exactly top-tier.

>>75197392
>mostly made by SM
yikes, no

>>75197955
Name a label that has had more quality hits

>>75197967
[whispers] JYP

>>75197980
That's just not true though, although I fuck with a lot of JYP artists
rip Miss A

I just recently got a bit into KPop
Albums are almost universally shit and full of filler
There are some singles that are legitimately great though, but it's still just Pop and if you don't like anything about western pop music you won't dig KPop either.
I guess just listen to one of the KPop playlists on Spotify (there's a couple official ones) or something and jack off to the videos like everyone else does

>>75197344
It's good for your penis

Are people who are generally into KPOP know the language or at least try to?

>>75198271
No, the lyrics are absolute garbage going off the translation, so no one's missing out if the don't know Korean. If anything they're sparing themselves.
Just look at the Engrish like "never don't mind about a thing" that pops up. It's all style over substance—candy music.

>>75197344
it's as good as pop music

>>75198271
one of the positive things about it is that you can't understand
a lot of people learn how to read hangul tho, it can be done in less than a day

>>75197344
Twice is superior K-pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK7-Uie6N-E

>>75197344
It's a meme. Holy shit. Can't believe anyone actually listens to that shit

>>75198671
chill

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>>75198671

there's plenty good kpop out there
stellar, exid, after school, orange caramel, fx and so on and forth

in the end it's just pop music tho

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yes im into kpop for the music not the cute boys

>>75197898
but the music IS top tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BwLMq7Wn2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpqdegzWWZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoySmwO7QHg

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>>75197392
ah and immediately the sm stan shows up

Nothing wrong with pop music. Everything you listen to is derived from it. Is Radiohead and AnCo actually good or is it just a meme?

>>75199324
I would say Radiohead doesn't quite fall under pop music just like Hyukoh isn't kpop even though their songs always top the charts, is Kendrick a pop artist?

>>75199366
I would say Kid A is not pop music
Kendrick is

>>75199260
>proceeds to post shit tier music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45VXFTSkJHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBicr0IwzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OetMCVIoLdw

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good groups always die

Are there any K-pop musicians that you would find worth listening to without the fluff, the videos and shit?

What is the difference between J-Pop and K-Pop besides the nationalities?

>>75199457
kpop singers don't sound like 8 year olds

What's some good older K-pop?

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just listen to fx

>>75199366
Humble was #1 on the Billboard chart so I suppose it depends on if you think of pop as a specific thing or simply whatever's popular. Pop music adopted rock's verse-chorus structure so the differences were superficial before Radiohead even formed, and that's where they diverged from.

>>75199457
jpop idol groups suck too much, the music is unlistenable(ex: AKB48). jpop has a lot more non idol stuff tho and it sounds pretty good, like Frederic, Mondo Grosso, Gen Hoshino, etc.

Japan has it's own underground idol scene where the music does not suck, but technically it's NOT jpop because it's underground music.

>>75199457
kpop is way more influenced by the west, Koreans try to make it international but the japs are doing their own thing

>>75199457
Japanese pop music has more subcultures and a wider variety in sound, Korean pop music is very homogenised but the budget is much higher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjVT-jsiPnw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kleTli7aTRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x5_nPpcQcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiCoWlidHsQ

>>75199511
Keyakizaka46 is great though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awGVuRoxrkw

>>75199532
Korean music has subcultures and a wide variety of sound, you've probably just not bothered delving into their scene. Its difficult, because of the language barrier (they use their own popular websites and its fucking hard searching shit in hangeul sometimes)

But please don't generalise. Weabs on this website always compared Japan and Korea, but they only ever care enough to delve into Japanese media, not Korean but then they make assumptions about Korean

>>75199543
i'm talking specifically about the pop music scene - i'm aware of a number of the other things happening in Korea, but because i'm answering a question about "K-pop" and "J-pop" i'm discussing what is meant by those specific terms

>>75199474
Seo Taiji

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8em1w3KIFA

Or you mean trot music? idk much about that

>>75198853
Why was he so violent with his shirt!

>>75197392
This is what fagshitters actually think.

>>75199557
Okay so those groups that you posted, that are barely managing 500k views between all of them, are considered mainstream "J-pop" in the same league as Nogi or AKB and should be used as evidence that J-pop is more diverse than K-pop? I chuckled a bit.

But okay, here are four links of K-pop groups that have a distinctive sound from one another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxfl8LRab_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYGODWJgR-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdqpTN4SKXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hVxASAMaxw

I'm Korean and I can safely say kpop is not good at all. So please keep away from it. Never give it a chance.

>>75199708
gooks know nothing

>>75199600
>should be used as evidence that J-pop is more diverse than K-pop?
yes
please show me one K-pop group that collaborates with harsh noise bands, incorporates polyrhythm or complex time signatures, or can make something longer than 8 minutes sound constantly engaging
the most far-out thing you've managed here is that edgy pop-rock number

The only decent genre to come out of Asia is noise

>>75199768
You clearly haven't heard about our revolutionary guys
https://youtu.be/1oxOnWws0UQ

>>75199844
forgot this https://youtu.be/CiGrgfoUlqM

>>75199600
Yes we know Japanese music is superior
The thread is wether Kpop has any merit

>>75199532
>>75199865
Meant to reply to this

>>75199858
why am i being made to listen to this four-chord tropical house

>>75199889
i was answering the question in >>75199457 until someone took offense

>>75199600
Cringe do asians have any originality

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listen and see
>2011
https://youtu.be/zYoYoBtLqOY
https://youtu.be/kowfLIRpQaU
https://youtu.be/Fzr2Nv8NTEE
https://youtu.be/1OSmITtaX3o
https://youtu.be/QnAhnxmSNFw
https://youtu.be/bw9CALKOvAI
https://youtu.be/z-rftpZ7kCY
https://youtu.be/QN6KVm5cRWw
https://youtu.be/dA9niwM2r9Q
https://youtu.be/f_iQRO5BdCM

>2012
https://youtu.be/n8I8QGFA1oM
https://youtu.be/qsWl1--Niyg
https://youtu.be/0Z9R57maGvc
https://youtu.be/g0XpNvLWimo
https://youtu.be/ShVRP09NCO4
https://youtu.be/MCEcWcIww5k
https://youtu.be/YXZ19CvCmto
https://youtu.be/0tVe-60aQ5Q
https://youtu.be/oL2AlXWVbKU

>2013
https://youtu.be/fwN_Axs7pL4
https://youtu.be/nQm_9nbY_7U
https://youtu.be/xF3MC8PWgJE
https://youtu.be/Qk52ypnGs68
https://youtu.be/_vHw17-zFa4
https://youtu.be/7jtMbtq8wT0
https://youtu.be/NPqtL1dtrlA
https://youtu.be/6LtVvmSYoN0
https://youtu.be/h-3V0FwPzes

>2014
https://youtu.be/hfXZ6ydgZyo
https://youtu.be/Med2XipHJJM
https://youtu.be/qEYOyZVWlzs
https://youtu.be/NCQpzHPYRUc
https://youtu.be/oTXCgR93zC8
https://youtu.be/q_eo5j5sib8
https://youtu.be/6tK0XUQQ3wA
https://youtu.be/iv-8-EgPEY0
https://youtu.be/wqiEAod0LYI
https://youtu.be/Q33SoblaZbU
https://youtu.be/YpatVVhT-Io

>2015
https://youtu.be/glXgSSOKlls
https://youtu.be/1nCLBTmjJBY
https://youtu.be/pOmTdFpIDX8
https://youtu.be/1pBgMBBsv4k
https://youtu.be/egqDPipqIAg
https://youtu.be/zO9RzrhYR-I
https://youtu.be/FYqfHaAkplw
https://youtu.be/zbnRfBGjeaw
https://youtu.be/ui_YY5mJZT4

>2016
https://youtu.be/LNZKqhXCv5c
https://youtu.be/0VKcLPdY9lI
https://youtu.be/bAicySTsvLo
https://youtu.be/LJVUjmNMF8c
https://youtu.be/GoV7B9K23ts
https://youtu.be/c7rCyll5AeY
https://youtu.be/VSYoDqkbzzg
https://youtu.be/0KGHiRo2apM
https://youtu.be/bwmSjveL3Lc

>2017
https://youtu.be/rJYDix4FttA
https://youtu.be/i1n_1jrUEjU
https://youtu.be/7cjZFjWBZI0
https://youtu.be/Amq-qlqbjYA
https://youtu.be/WyiIGEHQP8o
https://youtu.be/DojqyA3Ma2k
https://youtu.be/41Dp7Q-SM1Y
https://youtu.be/8A2t_tAjMz8

>>75199890
because our guys are the topp doggs

>>75199260
>>75199402
you both posted medicore shit. fucking soft eared plebs.

>>75199942
now this is the stuff

>>75199942
cheer up baby ~~ cheer up baby ~~ oikakete

>>75199962
>only listening to singles

>>75199942
>Singles
Are you daft?

>>75197344

It’s actually really good.

>>75200153
those are music videos, not singles

>>75199422
sg wannabe

>>75197344
It's a bit of both, I used to be really into it as a teen but I got burnout having to go through so much shit to find the gold especially with new group debuting every week or whatever

>>75199734
says the fucking mongrel cuck where are you from?

>>75198608
is Korean even easy to learn? Looks hard.

>>75200492
brazil

>>75200502
the language is hard but the alphabet is easy, it was literally made to be easy

>Before the creation of hangul, people in Korea (known as Joseon at the time) primarily wrote using Classical Chinese alongside native phonetic writing systems that predate hangul by hundreds of years, including idu, hyangchal, gugyeol, and gakpil. However, due to the fundamental differences between the Korean and Chinese languages, and the large number of characters needed to be learned, there was much difficulty in learning how to write using Chinese characters for the lower classes, who often didn't have the privilege of education. To assuage this problem, King Sejong created the unique alphabet known as hangul to promote literacy among the common people.

>>75200507
lmao fucking shitskin monkey

>>75200529
stfu kim

>>75197392
Stupid ass SM dicksuckin ass nigga

>>75200545
Dumbass nigga

>>75200523
huh you learn something new everyday. Thanks anon that was appreciated. it's language I want to learn one day for my career

>>75197344
People act like it is so much different from western pop, but it isn't, If you enjoy pop, yeah, it can be pretty good, but you gotta find what sort of pop music you like, electro? dance? with a touch of RnB? Ballads? A bit of Jazz? Folk?

>>75200301
yeah even worse, everyone knows the best songs are the b-sides which get no MV's

>>75199942
>all girl groups

you're missing out man

>>75198765

This