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How do you go from beautiful jazz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30FTr6G53VU

to just random fucking noise????!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en3YTSViS6s
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>>75175288
Both of those are beautiful jazz.
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>>75175301
get your eyes check lol
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Taking music further. Jazz is (or at least was) about pushing the genre further when they discovered all to be discovered in a particular style. When they craved more than Dixieland, bop was made. When playing over ii-v's was too basic, modal jazz was made. When following a set of changes without substitutions and altercations was boring, avant-garde bop was made. Free jazz just continued to take it further
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>>75175288
That second song gave me cancer
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>>75175488
same
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bumping this good thread
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Pro-tip: both of these are god tier and you should fuck off if you disagree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z8BEDBJjZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDrkTmqxQk
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Meditations is the most accessible of his free jazz stuff and is a great album.
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I really like that second one. Thanks for sharing anon!
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>>75175288
Posting the superior jazz album
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>>75175288
You'll get it when you're an adult.
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>>75175288
Imagine not liking Meditations. It must suck having such undeveloped taste.

>>75178405
>posts the 4th best jazz album from 1959 which has absolutely nothing to do with Coltrane.
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>>75175288
If all you hear on Meditations is random fucking noise, then you're doing it wrong. Did you even listen past the first track?
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Just because you're skilled at your instrument doesn't mean it's not random noise
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>>75175288
First of all, It's not random noise. You get there by wanting more freedom of expression.
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>>75178713
Here are transcriptions of Ornette Coleman's and Coltrane's works from their free jazz periods. So, now what?
http://freejazzinstitute.com/uploads/20081120093725_HalfNelson.pdf
https://es.scribd.com/mobile/document/192645412/Lonely-Woman-Ornette-Coleman
https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/106766872/John-Coltrane-s-Meditations-Suite-A-Study-in-Symmetry-Dave-Liebman
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>>75175288
heroin's a hell of a drug
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>>75175405
>>75179236
But isn't this like porn: the more you watch, the less you get satisfied with vanilla stuff and you gradually go down the rabbit hole to fucked up things? How is that good?
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Perhaps you prefer structure in your Jazz OP and that's fine, but calling anything of Meditations random noise is honestly insulting.
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>>75180657
>Let's not use analogies. Yours wasn't appropriate either way. Why did you ignore >>75179317? It's not random noise. These people are virtuosos and if you've bothered to listen to at least one full free jazz album of theirs, you would've known that it doesn't always have to be rooted in overblowing the saxophone, polyrhytms and atonality. Here's a clearly composed free jazz piece, with a distinct head part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfbiBl8lWSM
https://seanwinters.com/blog/2012/01/24/gary-schwartzs-lettingo/
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>>75175288
>not A Meme Supreme
you fucking idiot
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>>75181440
It is such a shame
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>>75175288
t. brain dead jazz tourist

meditations is a beast of a record, if you are hearing random noises, you need to listen to it more.

the soul and energy poured into the playing here is palpable, and is very memorable.

listen to the legendary series of records in this order

A Love Supreme > Meditations > Ascension > Interstellar Space

you will understand. hopefully
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meditations is one of his best albums you fool

it is a shame that free jazz in wake of coltrane only lead the music to more niche territory. thanks to free jazz i don't think modern audiences can really know what jazz is anymore, but this is why labels like 'random fucking noise' get thrown around. good free jazz should sound like jazz imo. coltrane has that, but it helps to recognise parts of his free period as tied to his earlier career. meditations for example came after a love supreme as a sort of less accessible take. coltrane knew how to balance accessibility over experimentalism but meditations is his doing more of what he wants. you should listen to marion brown if you want to find some enjoyable free jazz
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>>75175288
everything coltrane played was perfect, always.
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ITT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lpWIsTLQw
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>>75175288
Can anyone help me with Jazz, i wanna listen to more of it, i know i enjoy it, but A Kind of Blue didn't click with me, i did like John Coltrane though, doesn't need to be acessible
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>>75182303
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>>75182353
Thank
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>>75175288
>random
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>>75175288
Drugs and mental illness
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>>75182070
Well, that was painful to watch
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>>75182782
You know what's really painful? People who frequent this board and are actually serious with saying exactly what's been said in the video.
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>>75175288
h
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