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First for AtmosBM

Median age of this thread: 15

>>75110601
you must be 7 then

>>75110601
Too old

>>75110601
Epic

>>75110562
>imbliyign dadaism isn't god tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RaaKXZGREs

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Have you thrown out your computer yet? Dio says it sucks your soul

What album is the Filosofem of DM?

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>>75110595
Two Hunters is better

>>75110681
Symbolic

>>75110657
I'm more metal without one

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>>75110682
Celestial Lineage was better than that.

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more like this and suffocation pls

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quorthon was pretty gay

are there are any local bands you tell yourself you like just because you want to believe the scene is better than it is

>>75110681
Starspawn

>>75110892
you're not trv kvlt if you're not gay
being straight is bowing down to the tyrannical Christian hegemony

>>75110931
"Just be yourself" - Satan before he got expelled from Heaven.

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>>75110890

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What was the first album that got you into Metal?
Pick related for me.
I've listened and liked Black Sabbath and Metallica before but it was Maiden who got me really interested in the genre.
After that it was listening to bunch of Traditional Metal, then Thrash, then Death and Black metal.

>>75110931
Being straight is being normal, anon.

>>75110942
>be intelligent, critical thinker questioning authority
>get thrown out of heaven and damned to Hell for all eternity
what did (((they))) mean by this?
Is Satan actually /ourguy/?

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>>75110949

>>75110968
being "normal" is not black metal

>>75110971
the mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven

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>>75111022

>>75110931
>>75110992
>when BM starts sounding like "woke" college student rant
he fell for (((anti-christianity))) meme

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what's your favourite genres outside of meal?

>>75110971
Man is not God.

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>>75111067
neo prog

>>75110965
Not any specific albums, but a lot of the popular Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax tracks. I still feel ashamed for liking Metallica that much.

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>>75111081
very nuice

is the brazilian thrash metal nut here?

>>75111067
jazz, noise, singer-songwriter

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>>75110971
>be intelligent, critical thinker questioning authority
so basically euphoric neckbeard? WTF I hate satan now, praise god 777

>>75111067
blackgaze, experimental/hardcore rap

>>75111049
ummm sweetie, bm has always sounded like that

>>75110971
this is really making me think

>>75111111
Good post + check em

>>75110681
>>75110691
this

>>75111111
shit get

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>>75111067
Yacht rock/soft rock
RIP Dave Porcaro

>>75111111
czech'd for bm

>>75110892
Dead (while in Morbid) once sent Quorthon a dead animal or something in the mail because he acted like a rockstar douche when they met.

>>75110906
No and neither should you. If you don't like it, don't support it (it applies for the bands and the scene as well)

>>75111081
neo prog is basically nu-metal in terms of shittiness you tool

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give me more SATAN
>inb4 Hell (2017)

>>75111101
might as well literally say "I don't actually read books"

seriously, if you are "drowning in an anti-intellectual quagmire" you can go to a fucking library, or hit up Project Gutenberg if you're into old shit, or read stuff on academia.edu, or listen to countless hours of lectures on whatever subject you please for free

if you think fucking reddit is the most intellectually stimulating place online, fuck you

>>75111111
I never implied otherwise
It's just that anti-christian sentiment is very convenient for, you know, a (((certain group))) of people

>>75111067
Shoegaze, City Pop, Synthpop (especially 80s shit), Alt. Rock

>>75111067
Porg

>>75111166
dubs of duty speak the truth

>>75111067
Prog, industrial, neofolk

>>75111183
Dude this image is meant to poke fun at reddit, calm down

>>75111184
not everything anti-Christian is part of some Jewish conspiracy, you cucktard

>>75111204
yeah I know; it just disgusts me that there are people like this

>>75111184
>not being opposed to all Semitic sand cults

I wish more black metal would explore anti-Islam and anti-kike themes though.

>>75110892
im pretty sure i had a dream where he literally died of aids. I thought i had read it somewhere but when i checked it just said heart failure.

>>75111191
Sadly it's not 111666

>>75111237
I think I had the same dream my dude. Or perhaps it was the Mandela Effect. I could have sworn he died from AIDS or cancer.

>>75111234
i feel like the people that say this just aren't paying attention to the general anti-semitic labels

at this point Chrstianity's a poisonous decaying pile
it has definitely overstayed its welcome
and has nothing new to offer whatsoever.

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>>75111252
wiggers don't live very long

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>>75111208
I didn't say otherwise. I simply implied it can be used for their benefit
Reminder that '90s mainstream was chock full of "satanists" like Marylin Manson, who also put down family, middle class, tradition and capitalism, and promoted androgynous (if not plain transsexual) image

>>75111166
I know
i'm a sucker though

>>75111234
>I wish more black metal would explore anti-Islam and anti-kike themes though.
Exactly why I'm forming such a project

>>75110892
HOT
O
T

>>75110892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZnJXbqAPhk
>I'll never eat pussy again

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>Decapitated were arrested in California, early Saturday on suspicion of kidnapping a woman after their concert in Spokane on August 31st. However, they are now also facing charges of gang-rape. The woman said she was gang-raped by all four members of the Polish death metal band in the bathroom of their tour bus after their concert in Spokane, according to court documents released Monday.

are there any acts whose lyrical themes are being gay and Skyrim?

>>75111261
At this point it is irrelevent and no longer a moral authority. Anti-Christianity is so overplayed.

>>75111269
you literally said that anti-Christianity in bm is a Jewish plot

>he fell for (((anti-christianity))) meme

>>75111234
>would explore anti-Islam and anti-kike themes though.
And that's the key, they'd rather choose to preach about awful Christian """oppression""", sing about sodomizing the holy asshole, burn churches and shit like that, but religion of peace is apparently OK
Really makes you think

>>75111269
>muh traditional values at existential stake :(
lmao, in a fucking metal thread of all places

>>75111299
KYSmet

>>75111264
Quorthon looked like Jason Mewes.

>>75111299
Burzum

>>75111317
how can one act be so patrician is beyond my understanding

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>>75111312
do you even fucking listen to black metal you Christshit apologist

>>75111303
"he fell for (((anti-christianity))) meme"
dude if it means "literally said" to you then I don't know
In this context, "anti-christianity" was meant as a monicker for all (((liberating))) ideologies, which suddenly let the person I replied to believe that being gay is (((true rebellion))).

>>75111270
It's really sad if it's some shit you don't even listen to. I knew a guy who formed some shitty local metalcore band, he tried to convince me to support his band and I told him I didn't like their music and I won't support it, simple as that. Try to be more honest to yourself

>>75111351
Old christianity:
>hated gays
>made crusades
>hated jews (see Martin Luther)
>secured nation state
>generally served for benefit of white people and their protection
Implying any of that is bad.
Being Christian, at least ironically, is the ultimate trigger for any (((liberal))).

>>75111351
>insults someone for being Christian
>lol do u even black metal lmao! XD
Geenyuth

>>75111367
it's pretty fucking clear, dude
you're just retarded, or trolling
stop putting echoes around everything you don't like

less baits, more metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIRZz0KbVsI

>>75111410
what's wrong with being gay
you're just too much of a pussy to take a finger up your ass, let alone a big-ass cock
faggot

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What does /metal/ think of the new Dyscarnate record?

fuck off larpers

>>75111312
Because judaism and islam are the biggest religions and the ones oppressing the population in the countries in which black metal was originated right? You are fucking stupid kid

>>75111453
Nothing's wrong with being gay, but there is something wrong with gay sex and gay marriage

>>75111459
looks pretty communist desu senpai

>>75111312
>what is nsbm

>>75111426
Again, I never implied anti-christianity is bad. It's bad when it's used badly. It's good when it's used to fight abrahamic religion.
But at the same time, by pretty much its fucking definition, anti-Christianity is a big fat loaded gun directed at hundreds of years of Western culture, which, you know, gave us far more good than bad, and helped fight the said (((Abraham))).

>>75111410
Europe accomplished those things in spite of Christianity not because of it. We hated gays, crusaded and hated jews because of the culture and values of the time.

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D U D E
U
D
E

>>75111415
for the absolutely wrong assumption that black metal is somehow self-censoring itself to push this retard narrative, when it becomes evident the more he talks that he doesn't know anything he's talking about regarding black metal, much less on those historical perspectives

>>75111476
Dyscarnate is blue collar as fuck senpai

>>75111489
>We
lad the only accomplishment you've ever done is shitpost on a Maldives tax preparation forum

>>75111098
>>75111106
>>75111187
found the nu-males

>>75111484
again, you clearly said that anti-Christianity in bm is a Jewish trick
fuck your traditionalist bullshit
retard

what's some metal to holocaust christshits to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S7Oo2MJbtM

>>75111484
>clearly states things
>b-b-b-but I n-never said that

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>>75111515
Swanö is actually edgy as fuck and his studio probably smells like Mountain Dew and Doritos

>>75111453
t. has Chuck posters all over his bedroom

>>75111471
>crying about Christian """oppression"""
>diregarding that religion of peace kills and rapes more people in Europe in current year than Christianity did in hundreds of years
Are you dumb or just liberal?

>>75111479
NSBM is good but it's just a fraction of BM, which is by one of its definitions Satanic metal.

>>75111474
and what is that?

SODOMIZE THE LARPER ASSHOLE

>>75111446
no baits, only metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Umpzgb9SyU&t=622s

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>>75111515

>>75111446
My nigger, great album

nu-male repellant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtQ343nuS80

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>>75111549
because Islam was culturally relevant to the progenitors of first-wave and the Norwegians, right? as if NSBM labels haven't topically adjusted nowadays? what are you trying to get across here other than your absolute ignorance of black metal retrofitted around a 'muh christian' narrative you're trying to push?

>>75111552
Aside from it being an abomination, gays who have sex are less that 1% of the population yet are responsible for more than half of the spread of HIV. And gay marriage doesn't really exist since the Definition of marriage is the holy union of a man and woman before God. A man and man doing it is just a slap in the face to the Lord and the foundation of society.

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>>75111549

>>75111498
Name me at least one BM album that took hate to other Abrahamic religions to the level of hate they have for Christianity. I'll wait.
Oh, and also, while we are at it, explain why do they only promote destruction of Christian religious facilities.

>>75111515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y8Xe6P5qkw

>>75111549
>Islamic scholars preserved Greek philosophy, art and science while Europeans were shagging livestock and paying protection money to the church

>>75111604
oh you're just a Christfag
you do know that all non-procreational sex falls under the definition of sodomy, right?
oh and I hope you don't jerk off

moron

>>75111067
electronic, classical and hip hop.

>>75111604
>>75111611
Fuck off christian. You don't belong here. Go shitpost to /b/ or /pol/

>>75111604
>A man and man doing it is just a slap in the face to the Lord
BM material

>>75111628
>ignores real world examples
>lol ur just Christian
Nice copout

>>75111611
>he doesn't know Seeds of Iblis
hello, newfriend

>>75111489
>"We hated gays, crusaded and hated jews because of the culture and values of the time."
>Implying Christianity wasn't shaped by the Western people
>also implying it was separable from the culture
>implying homosexuality isn't a sin according to Bible
>implying Christianity didn't help make crusades
>…and so on

>>75111640
>ignores everything
nice

>>75111529
>clearly stated things
again, for fuck's sake, I used triple parentheses and a metaphor, which I explained to those that got it wrong

>>75111665
>n-no u!

>>75111611
everything by GBK
everything on Darker than Black records
everything on No Color records
Werewolf Promotions
the list goes on and on, but I don't expect a person that doesn't listen to black metal to know that anyway

because Christianity has historically been topically culturally relevant to most people that played black metal because the people that play black metal interact primarily with Christian society, hence why first-wave was predicated on Satanism and all black metal after has taken after that to some degree.... is a Hindu artist expected to be topical about Daoism or Zen Buddhism?

>using a music board on a Ecuadorian fishmongering forum to talk about religion
hmmm

>>75111668
then you're just shit at articulating things
like an autist

Good OSDM from Norway I believe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9a3hNoQRmU&t=0s

>>75111673
>still ignores everything
nice

>>75111701
>maybe if I keep repeating it, it'll magically make me right

>>75111700
Norway you say? yes what an obscure rare find. I wonder what these guys are up to today...

>>75111604
why not just say that spreading HIV is bad?
having responsible gay sex is bad just because other people are stupid about it?
fuck off

>>75111599
>because Islam was culturally relevant to the progenitors of first-wave and the Norwegians, right?
They are relevant as fuck now. You don't have to go to /pol/ to know this.
Oh and also, they were relevant how? They burnt their great-great-…-uncle's favorite idol of Odin? Truly, the whole narrative about evil Christianity is like "we wuz vikings and shit, then Christians came and enslaved us".

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>>75111515
*desecrates*

>>75111721
>if I keep ignoring shit I van keep living in muh blissful ignorance
you fucking masturbating sodomite

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>post gay picture of Quorthon
>thread immediately devolves into Christcuck shitflinging

>>75111726
some of it's members made Immortal, so that's probably the answer to your question, although you've probably meant that they've done 1 or 2 full length albums and called it quits like most of Finnish bands at the time.

>>75111740
Where are you from? You clearly don't know how is to live in a christian country. Or you have your brain too washed to realize what happens around you

>>75111764
Voidsomething something label released it, right and it's from this year? Good shit.

All USBM is fucking unlistenable CRAP that sounds fake and plastic. Also, when did you realize doom black metal was the best black metal all along? That shit is too riffalicious.

>>75111783
>Judas Iscariot
>Inquisition
>Black Twilight Circle bands
>Ustalost
>unlistenable
what

>>75111624
>Islamic scholars preserved Greek philosophy, art and science
And Christianity didn't? As if Greek and Roman heritage wasn't the foundation of European culture, and wasn't praised in almost every era? And oh yes, the science too—time to remember muh dark ages which set us back when Islamic countries were building rockets and using nuclear energy.
Cue a certain terrorist group (which is totally unrelated to religion of peace) destroying UNESCO world heritage places.

>>75111764
Boring album

>>75111783
Filtered

>>75111740
Islam wasn't fucking culturally relevant to the people that played *any metal* in the 80s and ealry 90s. Not socioculturally moreso than Christianity. Anything you say is bankrupt if you can't understand this simple concept.

>>75111783
see
>>75111593

trv usbm

>>75111802
why is it boring?

>>75111656
OK well I learned something. But still that's one act. One—between the thousands of bands hell bent on destroying Chritianity up to its core.

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>>75111796
>>75111779
>>75111756
>>75111740
>>75111604
>>75111471

>>75110601
le mature hip-hop listener numale

>>75110576
>deathened Castlevania music
So 90% of Nip melodeath?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4qUygbNT8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIJxmp5ls_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLsZJEERyQU

>>75111740
are you legitimately autistic because there's a difference between being relevant now and being relevant in the 80s which was the period in question

Give me bm albums to listen while lifting

>>75111700
Old Funeral is Great, varg played on the Devoured Carcass EP

>>75111826
Good job ignoring all those labels I posted up there and further cementing the fact you don't know shit about black metal if you think there aren't anti-Islamic sentiments.

>>75111823
>Markov Soroka
Should say enough
But if you're really curious the riffs just feel uninspired and weak

>>75111410
>secured nation state
No, old Christianity was essentially anti-nationalist, the very paradigm of the Middle Ages being unification under the rule of the universal Christ's Church, opposing the old world's tribalism and paganism. But Christianity miserably failed, started the most terrible religious wars in Europe and ultimately the Renaissance. Nationalism became a movement only after scientific restoration, viz. reintroduction of rationalism, the ancient philosophy, literature and arts. Great nationalistic monarchs all were the children of Enlightenment and fiercely resisted the Church.
>generally served for benefit of white people and their protection
Christianity generally served for benefit of all Christians, be they white, yellow or brown.
>hated gays
This is yet another modern notion that was devised in the age of Enlightenment. In Christianity, there was either a pure kind of love, which meant spiritual love for Christ, or sinful pagan love, which is carnal lust in general. Testosterone oozing blockheads from the action movies would be exposed for what they are: testosterone oozing blockheads, and would have nothing to do with moral ideals of Christianity and the Middle Ages.

Tl;dr, in other words, shut the fuck up and shove your historical delusions up your ass.

>>75111637
>>75111512
>fuck your traditionalist bullshit
>Fuck off christian
Wow, these final arguments sure convinced me I was wrong.

>>75111779
>"M-m-muh oppression!!! We live in Christiarchy!!! The Christian rape culture! The Christspreading! We Europeans had it so hard!!! Don't you see it you bigot!!!"

>>75111856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwF2wtKmAc

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Post metal you can sing along with

https://youtu.be/wIpMFqNg1DQ

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>but power metal is fun
is there a more paper-thin excuse for listening to the metal equivalent of buttrock?

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>>75111856

>>75111896
who are you quoting

>>75111843
He's clearly autistic. He's also shitposting, just ignore him

>>75111882
>ignores the real arguments
>claims the insults are arguments in order to feel superior

>>75111856
BM has no riffs
You can't lift without riffs

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>>75110681

>>75111783
What USBM have you been listening to, tripfag?

>>75111928
>BM has no riffs
t. atmoshitter

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>>75111928
wrong

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tourist holocaust

>>75111882
Hey Cletus you should go back there to blow that pig's cock

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>black metal has no riffs
what?!

>>75111889
Touch of Evil Judas priest

>>75111252
>Mandela Effect
Otherwise known as the "I can't cope with how ignorant I am so it must be a fracture in the space-time continuum" effect

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>>75111928
>bm has no riffs

>>75111659
>Implying Christianity wasn't shaped by the Western people

Yes it was shaped by European culture. As I said Europe was great in spite of Christianity not because of it.

>also implying it was separable from the culture

Your last statement contradicts this.

>implying homosexuality isn't a sin according to Bible

It was a sin in nearly all pre-modern European cultures.

>implying Christianity didn't help make crusades

It was an excuse to invade the Arab world after centuries of invasions from them. Europe would have retaliated eventually either way.

>>75111067
Prog/Math rock, Jazz, Classical

>>75111806
I understand this, but the punishment should fit the crime.
It's more than suspicious to me that well after Reagan era with its push on religious lobbying in US, people in Europe focused on hate to Christianity and took it to some ridiculous new levels, with church burnings etc., while completely ignoring every other issue and any other culture/religion.
And yes, I understand prefectly well there IS nsbm and other metal that doesn't follow this rule. But I stressed it was an exception from the big rule, in a genre where most influential records and acts happen to be anti-Christian first.
Last but not least, this does not apply to BM that is about general misanthropy and anti-religiousness. I'm all for it and don't object in the slightest, as long as it isn't as biased as anti-Christian metal.

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>>75111993
stop replying to the tourist larper. not only is his rhetoric nothing but sophistic fallacies he doesn't have knowledge of metal beyond what you get from until the light takes us

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Any thrash/BM that sounds like Bathory's self-titled?

Ignore shitposter, post metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMBn53IxPCc

>>75112019
there's this whole obscure genre called first-wave bm that's just like it.

in all seriousness NME - Unholy Death and Kat - Metal and Hell

>>75111993
>implying the Crusades were anything but Urban II trying to get second sons out of Europe and help the Byzantines at the same time

>>75112019
Venom - Black Metal
Sodom - Witching Metal
Bulldozer - The Day Of Wrath

USBM is just so unremarkable and shitty. Either its faggot depressive shit like Leviathan or Norsecore like Judas Iscariot. Inquisition don't count as they are from Colombia.

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>>75111928
>bm has no riffs

>>75112049
venom doesn't sound like batlord at all

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>>75112037
Thanks bruv

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>>75111928
>BM has no riffs

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>>75112061
>venom doesn't sound like batlord at all

So many retarded fedoracucks ITT

>>75112080
t. butthurt american't

>>75111873
>very paradigm of the Middle Ages being unification under the rule of the universal Christ's Church
Yeah, and open borders and stuff
>started the most terrible religious wars in Europe and ultimately the Renaissance
which would have been just inter-religious wars anyway, and nowhere on the scale of Islam, and also still keeping Europe the most developed region in the world
Nice self-hating historical position, is it what they teach you in European schools today, or did unca Varg and co tell you this "woke" version of history?

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>>75112047
>and help the Byzantines
It's almost like the Byzantines asked for help or something

If you are an atheist you are a nu-male

>>75112096
When did I imply otherwise?

>>75111067
I can't tell if you're making a subtle joke about communists not having food but

IDM, denpa, eurobeat, and any kind of rock genre not influenced by punk except thrash or grindcore or that has faggy vocals

>>75111067
Post punk/goth and synthpop

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>>75112005
Because Christianity socioculturally defined and continues to define the society and culture in which most metal plays ie first-world, western Christian states. This is not a difficult concept, there's no grand conspiracy. The existence of NSBM, whose propagation is proportionate to Islam's sphere of cultural relevance to people that play metal, debunks anything you have to say about some cosmic conspiracy you desperately want to rationalize. The anti-Christian bias exists because... people that play metal live in Christian society, big fucking shocker.

Again, should a Hindu artist living in Hindu society be compelled to invoke Daoism or Zen Buddhism?

>>75112081
they're both blackthrash / first wave but they don't sound the same
I could've namedropped blacktrash bands too, even more obscure shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NroXdOYGerc

>>75111067
noise, jazz, hip-hop

>>75112138
>Again, should a Hindu artist living in Hindu society be compelled to invoke Daoism or Zen Buddhism?
Hindus have Hinduism ya doofus

>>75110890
Try decrepit birth and defeated sanity

>>75112106
Ignore me, I didn't bother reading full the full post you replied to so I didn't get full context.

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>>75112054
Is it me or they look alike

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Thoughts on this one?

>>75112095
>Yeah, and open borders and stuff
There were no nation states in the Middle Ages.
Stop being a useless cheap idiot.

>>75112144
I bet you think neither Venom nor Bathory sound at all like Motörhead
>aso reccing stuff from current year as if they're relevant

>good goy, stop believing in Christian bullshit, accept refugees and liberalism for traditional values

>>75112156
not him but:

the point
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your head

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>>75112169
It's cool bruh, no harm no foul.

>>75112171
It's you. Autists have a hard time telling faces apart

>>75112180
Stop being a weak ass cuck

>>75111298
I really hope she's lying they're one of my favorite bands

>>75112182
huh. seems like we've already been through this before

>good goy, stop believing in your gods, accept refugees and judaism for European values

Metal is not for kikes.

>>75112181
they're influenced by Motörhead, but the overall atmosphere and feeling are very different
Also let me shill my bandcamp finds

All mainstream media heavily promotes leftism and liberalism so it cannot be a counter culture anymore, when will we get a new wave of right wing bands?

>>75112221
Black metal is right wing. It just also happens to be anti-Christianity.

>>75112221
Politics should not interfere with art

note to self:
never post gay pictures in /metal/

>>75112221
I don't think it'll happen
this generation is super apolitic
you'd need a really good politician (no matter the side) to make people care again

>>75112225
black metal is whatever the fuck the artists want it to be
often whatever is deemed edgiest in their culture
black circle bands often just threw around whatever they thought would offend people

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>Devin is opening for buttrock bands now

new thread when?
this one is a dumpster fire

>>75112235
Politics have always been a part of art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe1vF0bgmb4

>>75112264
yeah, black metal isn't anything but a manifestation of the direct antipodes of mainstream norms and culture, whether that's invoked as Satan, Odin, far-leftism for RABM, NS for NSBM whatever. people that imply BM is intrinsically any-wing miss the larger picture

>>75112182
there's a lot of useful idiots being used to terraform the west, attacking and debasing anything that has meaning, and trying to make it into the kind of bleak hopeless shithole that facilitated communism like asia or the USSR. A key meme against fascism is the invasion of poland well why don't you ask a polish person who lived through communism which system they prefer. NSBM will only exist until victory over judeo communism then the same people can go back to living a carefree life singing about trees or whatever the fuck.

>>75112306
are you surprised?

>>75112306
Hey Clutch is actually pretty good

>>75112319
I'm not denying that, but still they shouldn't have at any point in history

>>75112138
>Because Christianity socioculturally defined and continues to define the society and culture in which most metal plays ie first-world, western Christian states.
It's true, however implying it's some kind of horrible oppression which needs to be fought (sometimes with violence) is not anywhere better than complaining about non-existent things like rape culture, microaggressions, and other liberal constructs.
>The existence of NSBM, whose propagation is proportionate to Islam's sphere of cultural relevance to people that play metal, debunks anything you have to say about some cosmic conspiracy you desperately want to rationalize.
For the last time, I never said this. I don't think that any of BM artists are in DIRECT conspiracy with anyone.
However, if you know anything about the so called critical theory, you know that the parts of it might function (almost) independently and unawarely for some very specific goal—but its often directed in subtle ways so that it doesn't stray from necessary agenda. It's obvious that this underground genre hasn't been shut down for hate speech/anti religious activity against Christianity, and gained some notable mainstream exposure without much opposition from anyone outside Christian community. The same can't be said about NSBM part of it, which, for example, has been banned from iTunes, IIRC, and needs its own labels.

>>75112332
I thought Devy is bigger than Clutch

>>75112329
Germans were actively trying to eradicate the Poles. Pretty sure they will prefer communism if you ask someone who was alive around the 1939.

>>75111067
Industrial, noise, loud rock sub genres that arent meal, and random happy/catchy stuff when I want something un-edgy

>>75112182
>traditional values
Christianity had little to do with traditional values of the late antiquity's Northern pagan civilization, and attacked these values in most cases. Intellectually it was among the first proto-modenist movements in history. These are the most obvious things, you have nothing to do with Christianity and Western civilization if you don't understand this, you post-modern piece of intellectual filth.

>>75112338
Art is a form of expression, why should artists be limited on what they express?

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>>75112235
t. fenriz

>>75112380
I don't find politics to be an interesting subject to use in art, but that's just my opinion

>>75112388
edginess
also a forgotten christian symbol

>>75112388
Pipes intersecting

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is this literally the most nu-male band?
spoiler alert: it's shit

>>75112388
Cross of St. Peter. Not sure why it was adopted by anti-Christians. Just use a pentagram instead.

>>75112138
>The anti-Christian bias exists because... people that play metal live in Christian society, big fucking shocker.
First, the problem I see here is the scale of this bias, which is so exclusive to Christianity, it basically swims is its hate to Christ and anything related to new testament.
Second, it's basically self-hatred, and hatred to your OWN culture. Which can be directed (doesn't necessarily mean it IS being directed) at ways beneficial to a certain group of people. Which, again, are hugely interested in countries destroying their own religions and sacrificing their own national sovereignty.
Now it's important to note that, when it goes in hand with paganism and folklore, I do see it as a somewhat positive thing. Although it does harm is disregarding and destroying years of positive cultural and social developments, at least it yearns for pride in one's own roots and heritage in some other way, and helps exclude outsiders, thus securing nation state. And a lot of BM does that. But a lot of it, however, does not, and the damage done to Christianity far outweighs the help they do. As I don't see many new pagan idols built and Odinist prayers held on places of burnt churches.

>>75112201
stop being a weak ass troll

>>75112408
Fenriz is a bright man.

>>75112437
Ancient Greece and Rome are the pillars of our society, Christianity, although dominated it throughout the centuries, did nothing that those two cultures didn't before it.

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>>75112432
Just going to post this before someone else does and everyone starts circlejerking over how ‘numale’ this guy is

>>75112437
lmao what is Christianity in this day and age besides faggy Sunday schools and hypercapitalist Christmas shit?

>>75112379
>we wuz vikangs but evil christians ruined everything

Pagancucks are embarrassing

>>75112467
>I support feminism, veganism, anti-racism and so on

Holy fuck

>>75112478
Christians did demolish their culture as they did to others around the world, too.

>>75112180
lol yeah
>praise your own king
>1 nation lives in one state
>oh no! we share religion and a lot of science/culture with other nation!!! it serves as a platform for education, art and culture! This ends now, where muh Odin bros at!!!!

>>75112434
>Cross of St. Peter
>It was never said St. Peter died on a cross
>It was never explicitly stated in the bible that Peter was even ever executed
How do people still fall for the St. Peter's Cross meme?

Christianity is over, kids, period.
now go home

>>75112491
America in a nutshell

>>75112520
what if I'm already home?

Reminder that atheism is on a decline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNs2pgFhaPw

>>75112507
>>75112478
You are embarrasingly stupid and mistake me for someone else (a pagan?..). Perhaps this public demonstration of your stupidity arouses you?

>>75112547
>BPS says it so its true
Daily reminder to talk neither with religiouscucks nor with fedora LARPers

>>75112547
>dumb christkikes celebrating retards breeding like rabbits in the global south

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>>75112182
>mfw Merkel is literally the leader of the christian party
>mfw most of the churches in the european countrys affected by mass immigration are pro-refugee
>mfw christians accept immigrants because "we are all gods children"

>>75112518
>It was never said St. Peter died on a cross

Yes it was. It comes from early Christian literature around 100 AD. It may not be in the Bible but Christians believe a lot of shit that isn't in the Bible.

>>75112502
Pagans were destroying other cultures long before Christianity was founded. Germanic tribes almost completely erased Celtic culture when they displaced them.

>>75112339
>implying it's some kind of horrible oppression which needs to be fought....
This is an issue wholly independent of WHY metal biases toward anti-Christianity (which is self-evident: metal comes from predominantly Christian societies). HOW and WHAT they do as a means of expressing that anti-Christian sentiment follows from that first premise on a case-by-case basis whether it's mere shock value or Church burnings.

No comment on ostensible (mis)readings into critical theory. NSBM is banned for the same reason you can't go all 88 on private property without reaping the consequences.

>>75112437
It's exclusive to Christianity because some people's perspectives are exclusively Christianity. Where this isn't the case (a larger geocultural consciousness) it's manifested in circles like Blazebirth Hall or labels like Darker than Black or bands like Grand Belial's Key. Self-hatred along the lines of general hatred sounds pretty metal to me. There seems to be only a problem here when you go on politicizing everything to fit your narrative.

>>75112569
Go shove up a banana up your as while watching Rick and Morty cuck

>>75112470
And you're almost right. The key word is
>this day
This day, this pope, this political climate.
The key here is that Christianity is good as long as it serves as an instrument for both the benefit of a nation state, and also white people in general. It used to do a decent job. Yeah there were wars because of it, but a lot of them were just international feuds for land between kings. Also, it united Europe, and made national monarchies stronger.
It doesn't do this anymore, as, let's face it, it has been greatly compromised and it holds too much onto its irrelevant premises like "earth is 5000 years old".
The good job it does today is to provide electorate and platform for nationalism, and as a subtle but real anti-thesis to those who want to destroy it.

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>Pagancucks BTFO!
>we wuz defending Europe n' shiet nigga

>>75112587
Of course, it was kill or be killed back then.

>>75112587
You're thinking of Rome. Romans killed Gaulish culture.

>>75112576
>>75112578
>did not watch the video

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>>75111351
>mfw this album is in limited state on youtube
also isn't most anti-islamic BM usually from islamic countries? People who ACTUALLY live in an oppressive government, rather than a few scandinavian teenagers living in the most secular and coddling countries in the world who think they're oppressed by christianity.

>>75112586
Find the scripture where it explicitly states Peter died on a cross, let alone died at all. It doesn't exist my man. The inverted cross was symbolic of Nero, who was considered the anti-christ by Christians.

>>75112622
It comes from the Acts of Peter my dude. I don't care if it wasn't in the Bible.

>>75112607
It's always been that way.

>>75112614
Romans finished them off, but Germanic tribes were the ones that drove them from their land south towards the Romans anyhow. Keep in mind Romans were also Pagans at that point.

>>75112458
>Christianity, although dominated it throughout the centuries, did nothing that those two cultures didn't before it.
Again, this is revisionism in the vein of blaming everything on white people. It's biased out of proportion, disregarding all the good that Christianity did for uniting Europe, keeping it white, serving as a platform for cultural, scientific development, etc. etc. As a tool, it did a lot of good for European people's interest and you have to be a liberal revisionist to deny it completely.

>>75112590
You are clearly talking to yourself. This would make an amusing soliloquy.

>>75112655
Christianity only continued what Greece and Rome accomplished, but yeah, people calling "muh inquisitions, muh crusades" are retards and should realize the Church also did good things for people and that Christianity is deeply ingrained in our culture and has has a tremendous effect on our moral values.

>>75112648
John 21:18/19 and 2 Peter 1:14/15 are the scriptures cited for his death. None of them tell of how he died, let alone that he died at all.

>>75112591
>both the benefit of a nation state, and also white people in general
newsflash faggot, Africa and China has the most Christians per capita

Saw a pretty interesting documentary about Nazi architecture and it covers the Völkisch bullshit the Nazis did.

"Anti-urbanism is at best crankish, at worst a springboard to horror. Like all reactionary hot air, back to basic, traditional values, that sort of tosh, it should be fit only to be mocked."

Very recommended if you're into British documentaries wherein the narrator isn't afraid to show his disgust and disdain for the topic being documented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTfbBvIEbfA

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Just to keep things relatively on topic, what are you lads blasting?

>>75112749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NroXdOYGerc

>>75112743
nice

>>75112749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXELvQX8CuE

i'm almost convinced the c*****tian larper is the stryper glamshit poster because this is quite the autism

>>75112749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mrY9u3KUUY

>>75112749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlG4Y_Mno9M

New Monolord. The new albums is definitely a different direction for them. Empress Rising was such an insane debut anything will struggle to live up to it.

>>75112806
t. nu-male blackie

>>75112812
Jesus, what a mind job...

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>>75112749
there are some droning sections of minimal riff development in this that go so far I would almost call this atmobestial metal

>>75112547
>keeps saying "lack"
>"lack" means deficiency
>"I'm not religious"

>>75112910

BPS isn't exactly a smart individual, then again no one on his side is.

>>75112952
t. dumb leftist

>>75112547
>he doesn't know atheistic Buddhism is a thing

>>75112952
never heard of him before

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What metal does he listen to?

>>75113021
Baka na Imouto

>>75113011

Consider yourself lucky.

"BPS believes that women have not evolved to stay loyal to their "tribe", and have brought destruction to Western nations by having exercised their voting rights"

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>>75113021

>>75112588
>which is self-evident: metal comes from predominantly Christian societies
The question isn't "why Christianity", the question is: "why deliberately try to desecrate and destroy a your country's religion, which seemingly does no comparable harm to anyone".
It's true that like you say, what they do varies case-by-case basis. The answer to the question above is important to me. If it is "to root out abrahamic influence, return to national roots and traditions of your people, and empower listeners with hate", then it is of course good—but then the choice of Christianity as a scapegoat looks quite questionable and inefficient.
I must specifically clarify though, I'm talking about anti-Christianity, not satanism, which often resulted in some moderately positive developments. If Satan is seen as a general Western symbol of hate and mercilessness (which obviously belongs to Christian religion), then it is indeed empowering; but when it is seen ONLY as the opposite of Christ and Christianity as a whole, a symbol of hate your own country's culture and tradition, with nothing but destruction of EXCLUSIVELY Christian values and developments, then it starts looking suspicious and in my opinion deliberately directs hate towards goals of undermining sovereignty of European people in the form of destroying Christian-exclusive mentality.

> Self-hatred along the lines of general hatred sounds pretty metal to me.
AAAND this is where I will disagree with you 100%. Self hatred is left half of rock: grunge, post-punk, emocore and other p4k core. They will tell you to hate yourself for being yourself.
Self-hatred is kys-core; "kill the other" is the true essence of metal. Hate towards the other, the falsies, the outsiders.
This is beyond politics, this is on personal thinking level. If you don't like yourself, then you are a doormat. The strength starts from at least not hating yourself. True rebellion is being yourself, subverted rebellion is war against yourself.

>>75111604
can i suck your cock

>>75113018
>>75113018
>>75113018

>>75113021

None, because metal is for degenerates.

Seriously though, when even memelord Fantano has to make a video on how stupid you are, you know you did something really fucking dumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNmta1gFjxU

>>75113044
He's not wrong

>>75113073
he just kept isnulting him and refuted none of his points

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Best Bathory album incoming!

>>75113044
what the fuck
watching that video now
this is the most retarded shit I've ever come across, and I've read most of the posts in this thread
>I don't hate women
>but women by nature are dangerous for society and must be closely controlled

>>75112694
>Christianity only continued what Greece and Rome accomplished
Somewhat true, and that's like… a good thing? So, it continued what Europe did before. Good, as long it served Europe.

>Christianity is deeply ingrained in our culture and has has a tremendous effect on our moral values.
Very true. I'll admit though it's important it must serve Europe's benefit. When it is reduced to the concept of mercy at your own's sacrifice, it is harmful and should be protested, or fought—but with comparable means. As such, I see mercilessness and apology of pure evil and hate in metal as tremendously good development, a return to true form from self-harming ways of rock.

>>75113140
t. male feminist

>>75112729
I meant that back in the day, it served to protect one race as a whole. Again, I only see Christianity as instrument.
While it was shaped through centuries to protect and empower its respective nations and race, it can be used at almost exact opposite direction—against nation state and against one race.

>>75113061
>why deliberately try to desecrate and destroy a your country's religion, which seemingly does no comparable harm to anyone
This is fallaciously setting up a strawman for those bands that never propped up the question of anti-Christian sentiment in those terms. I doubt most teenagers from the 80s and even early 90s weresinging about Satan and worshipping Bathory from a developed political perspective, in using anti-Christianity as a means to a return to pre-Christian traditionalism... It's only inefficient insofar you think music (or any art as self-expression) MUST be hyperpolitical. Which again is a function of you politicizing everything.

I'm being tongue in cheek with the self-hate and you can interpret that how you will, I was referring to the existence of DSBM anyway.

>>75113252
as an addendum, the *handful* of Norwegians and copycat acts they influenced are the exception to the rule of "nondeveloped perspectives" to a degree of manifesting action to back up their ideology. For most, it was enough that metal was edgy and anti-mainstream and they used that to build social identities with an in-group, not necessarily developing political ideologies. Which is the same reason NSBM and RABM are so fringe, not everybody is hyperconcerned with politicizing their music.

>>75113021
Queen

>>75112388
nu-maleness

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>>75112432
>>75112467
literally "maybe kim kelly will fuck me" the band

>>75113252
See >>75114025