/classical/

Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVaqfFxJG1c

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Pärt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HON4AswPVk
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Are there any worthwhile minimalist/modern organ pieces?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owpkZzSRlYA

>>74970004
You guys are the only general I don't hate.

can someone find me a nice melody in Bb

>>74970004
Wagner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur91bc3QYBU

>>74970401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtIW2r1EalM

>>74970401

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7sXUA00kv8

>>74970139
not modernist, but check out Buxtehude

Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yp7uWMDzOk

Tchaikovsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sb8WCPjPDs

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Can you recomend me good spanish compositors and some pieces?
thank you

>>74975014
Victoria, Morales and Guerrerro

>>74970004
I often have the impression that Modern and Contemporary composers simply could not compose in more traditional idioms because they did not have the specific taste to fit a style. The great composers of the Common Practice Period used to study extensively musical figures as simple as even diatonic scales, and they would spend years refining their knowledge of these basic building blocks. Theory does not account for this kind of knowledge, at best it can only describe it analitically. Truth being told, I really think that to be Beethoven knowing pitch theory is downright irrelevant when compared to know how to do something as stupid as accompanying with an arpeggiated static chord. The knowledge and achievements of the past composers are mostly stylistic in nature, rather than theoretical. What do you think about it?

Also I know I'm sound like a pretentious prick, but it's just stuff I've though yesterday night before falling asleep. Don't take it as some sort of traditionalist pseudo-manifesto.

>>74970004
Die Meistersinger is Wagner's best crafted opera, Tristan und Isolde is his best opera in general. Also every Wagner's lieders and piano piece suck.

Debate me.

What's a good piano scale book for an intermediate pianist? I work as an organist, but I took a job that involves a heavy use of piano and I want to get a better feel for the instrument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOICPqnGviU

>>74976032
what about lohengrin

>>74970139
https://youtu.be/1mbvkTEo0aA

maybe try Messiaen?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Donaa0mawc
>that shift at 7:06

>>74975014
Fernandez Caballero, Moreno Torroba, Penella, Luna, Alonso, Romo, Sorozabal, Guerrero, Rodrigo, Arrieta, Sandi, Moncayo, Maria Cano, F. Vasquez Cano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo8hIc7DpuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VYE3DblUVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xNmGznkdXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHegNnbnj1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuUYyyzuhhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4n0SiJSlEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhytI52LKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuC8pR67yNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7IxKyZV5bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFIIxwianyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUYXt2DUakI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAndUMSEbJA

>>74975014
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAmLVC3krHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXMOOTUOiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkxMPLAhLQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6rCu2Daeyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunXZJtfgJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_xok2JJPy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ3sKZgCCvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rSgsTcb_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b4My7A8GA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60DsZs1qEzM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPPW--8qXEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul6QBnecNKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFbh6nhL4oA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eev7wYeabpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPBa1ZGl4sY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnXeeEG3GSY

petzold

>>74976018
Fuck off with the traditionalist pseudo-manifesto.

>>74976018
To boil down modern and contemporary music to intellectual exercises very unfair. Schoenberg tends to get a "mathematical" reputation because of his 12-tone technique, but such strict adherence to the patterns of the row was only true of the Darmstadt integral serialists (even Babbitt wasn't absolute, including quotes from pop songs and so forth in his pieces). Schoenberg was very much a romantic, the closest thing there is to a successor to Brahms, much in the same way Berg is as close as we ever got to a successor to Mahler. Webern, often considered the most avant garde of the Second Viennese School's leading lights, was as indebted to the masters of Renaissance polyphony as Stravinsky was.

Stockhausen, after his serialist phase, was very much interested in approaching music on religious terms. He was obsessed with ritual more so than structure, and in what he thought of as spiritual and cosmic implications of harmonies and sequences. This was not an unfeeling man, all head and no heart, but one who wanted music to be a unifying, exalting art form.

Boulez, too, when serialism became "cashier's music" in his view, removed those strictures, his aesthetic from then on was "post-Debussy" if you like. Timbrel brilliance and beauty were his ultimate aims, and in this he inspired the French spectralist school, which gave rise to some of the most richly harmonic works of the past 50 years. Great spirited works arise regardless of theoretical concerns.

In my view traditional forms were effectively killed by Mahler. Within a couple of decades he had effectively made symphonic form impossible to define. In fact his 6th symphony, the one of his "mature" symphonies with a consistent key signature, expands sonata form to the point that there is nowhere to go but to abandon it altogether. Consider that after Mahler there are no "symphonies" that can really be considered symphonic, the designation is a mere name, no longer a descriptor in any real sense.

What are Beethoven's best symphonies besides 9, 7, and 5?

>>74977723
3, 8, 6, then all the rest

>>74977723
6, 3, 4, 8. The latter two are often overlooked but I think they're both well worth listening to, especially 8.

>>74977761
>>74977763
Thanks

Verdi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E4S-E2qAX8

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>be violinfag with piano as secondary instrument
>play pathetique sonata
>been practicing the first page for a week
>STILL, after 3 DAYS of practicing that scale right before the Allegro kicks in I can't play it consistently
>tfw thumb hurts like a motherfucker
who /slowbrainlet/ here?

Xenakis

https://youtu.be/29t-Kn-s1ts

>>74978440
Is your hand relaxed when you play it ? Like you don't get the weight on your fingers, wrist or forearm right ?
Also hi Leffen

>>74978440
Its Henle level is 7/8 of 9, it's almost surely above your level.

>>74978666
The scale is supposed to have a crescendo, and it is heavy on the fingers to say the least. At least it's not multishining.

>>74978669
I've played Frühlingsrauschen, Liebestraum 3 and Holberg Preludium. What henle score do they have? Shouldn't Rachmaninoff piano concerto have a henle of like 20 if pathetique is 7/8?

>>74978751
Liebestraum 3 and Holberg Preludium are 6/7.

You can look other pieces on their site henle.com/en/, it's a publishing company.
Some of Liszt's transcendental studies are level 9 and one is 7/8, I think the Hammerklavier is also 9, but their criteria isn't just mechanical complexity.

>tfw i'm the only person on earth that cares about Bruckner

>>74979011
Since you seem to have some experience, search Frühlingsrauschen by Christian Sinding on Youtube and grade it from 1-9 on the Anon Score

Elgar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GbD20h8-_4

>>74690718

Someone linked a piece by Veracini on youtube and I love it. I was just wondering if anyone has a link to downloading any of his (Veracini) works?

Petzold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w433wbM14Y

Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6l_0BQnBsU

>>74979019
I have to be in a very particular mood to listen to Bruckner without getting bored. When it happens it's magical, but otherwise no.

>>74979019
>I'm the only person who cares about one of the most influential composers of the 19th century

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>>74976032
Meistersinger is one of the most technically complex and beautiful operas ever written
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwP2944fdII

Tristan feels much more experimental. Many lovely moments but some genuinely hard to listen to moments as well.

>>74976348
speaking of which, does anybody know where to watch Lohengrin with subtitles? I'm burger, so can't into Deutsch

>>74977723
3, 4, 6

>>74979136
post that youtube link boi

>>74980485
>One of the most influential composers of the 19th century
>Who is Wagner
>Brahms
>Chopin
>Mahler
>Beethoven
>Tchaikovsky
>Verdi
>Liszt
>Strauss
>Schumann
That's ten people more influential than Bruckner. I would hardly call him one of the most influential.

Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOaxB6CW3to

Paganini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jXXWBt5URw

>>74977661
I haven't said that they are mere intellectual exercises, I have just pointed out the difference in the education of classical and contemporary composers, and which results they have given. Maybe I was a bit unclear, but I do not hate contemporary music, I was merely describing them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXzwtWI-fMY

what are some god tier violin sonatas?

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>>74982438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq-SrUZUluU

>>74982438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQItxB356w4

>>74975014
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ShXNe4kc6M8

So when I become a trombone player, am I supposed to play pieces composed for other instruments originally? I'm used to having a billion pieces in my hand whilst playing violin/piano. Is it acceptable to play things like Winter by Vivaldi on trombone or does it sound like donkey ass?

>tfw converting a friend into classical
feels good

>>74983911
I think I've heard a trombone version of Clair de Lune on YT. Do whatever you want.

>>74983932
Tips?

Have you listened to Mozart today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trSNvwDh67I

>>74983996
Ja.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqwBZ639pvw

>>74983911
You could get away with playing a good amount of bassoon, cello, or bass music without it sounding too out of place I reckon.

>>74970139
>>74984264
n-now what?

>>74983911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eotzGkapusE
it sounds like a butt but thats part of the charm

>>74983911
On the bright side, you'll be a hit among people with scat fetishes.

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>>74982438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z_Vq1Fm0HA

Who's your favorite non-influential composer?

>>74985823
Bach

>>74982438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlehysdSvKE

anyone have the mega pasta

>>74986116
go to the /mu/ archive

>>74985823
Louise Farrenc

Couldn't find it in the archive anywhere, so if anyone (>>60438846) needs the password for Old World Christmas - Pomerium, it's is "pippo9"

>>74985823
Darius Milhaud

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>>74981849

can I get uhh some classical fascist music reccs?

>>74987924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3QV2ADmf1o

no schubert ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpA0l2WB86E

>>74987924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc2EAMOkw-M

>>74987924
"Hitler wrote in his first volume of his book Mein Kampf: "At the age of twelve, I saw ... the first opera of my life, Lohengrin. In one instant I was addicted. My youthful enthusiasm for the Bayreuth Master [Wagner] knew no bounds.""
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYyGqTZnFvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZP-yXsNV2E

Or Orff if you want something more explicit that was actually written under Nazi rule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj-tBVq61as&t=1661s

>>74988248
Wasn't Hitler a sissy artfag when he was young?

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>>74988271
he never lost his enthusiasm for Wagner at any point, enthusiastically endorsing his music and staging Wagner festivals all over Germany

>>74988331
Wagner is for weak-willed twink sissies confirmed.
t. Nietzsche

>>74987924
Puccini, Dallapiccola and Stravinsky all expressed admiration for Mussolini
Webern and Orff expressed support for the nazis, as did Pfitzner (but Hitler didn't like him very much so it was a bit of an odd situation)
Enescu also supported the fascist regime in Romania

However it's pretty hard to argue that any one of these composers wrote specifically fascist music. Add that to the fact that the nazis were insufferable about maintaining their kitsch-y aesthetic (at least the Italians embraced some interesting aesthetic influences) and you've got a fairly dull musical palette if all you want are propaganda pieces for the regime.

So long as you don't buy into the absolutely idiotic argument that gets thrown around (mostly by people who should know better) that Wagner's music is proto-nazi/fascist. I feel myself getting stupider any time I have to read some 20 year old music student trying to make that argument in earnest.

The fact that Hitler's favourite Wagner opera was Rienzi never fails to make me laugh. What an idiot.

>>74988271
yeah he was a painter
>>74988355
didn't nietzche have a figurative gay boner for wagner until wagner figuratively broke up with him or something

>>74988456
At least he had good tastes in singers and conductors.

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>>74988430
>"Wagner was a fascist"
>supported anarchists by making hand grenades
People who think this probably don't even care much about music desu.

>>74988510
Nietzsche fell under Wagner's spell and became part of Wagner's propaganda machine designed to promote his musical philosophy. Nietzsche believed that Wagner's musical art was very important and, combined with the amount of time he spent in the Wagner household, published a book which torpedoed his scholarly reputation because of how partial towards Wagner it was.
Over the years, Nietzsche began to realise that Wagner wasn't as brilliant as he originally though and became disillusioned and distanced himself. I believe things became irreparable at the first Ring cycle at Bayreuth when Nietzsche's perception of Wagner's operas was ruined by the fact that the act of performing them rendered them mundane.

However he didn't publish his "Against Wagner" until many years after Wagner's death, which I suspect was perhaps due to lingering respect for the man.

>>74988596
yeah but you don't understand: he hated Jews and Hitler liked him so he was a Nazi even though he died several decades before the nazis existed.

>>74988635
i think even the most tolerant person in the world would find it difficult to stay with Wagner for so long. on a personal level he seemed like a pretty horrible friend

>>74987924
This tenor song was made during Fascist Italy. You can see some subtle Fascist and Nationalist propaganda in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9AjW7pC-BY

>>74988683
this
also he cucked Otto Wesendonck

>>74988683
Yeah, probably. However there was certainly a very close relationship between the Neech and Wagner for about a decade.

>>74988717
von Bülow, too.

>>74988744
this
nietzsche was the bottom

I like to sing arias for tenors but I'm more like a baritone, anyone has some tips?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FokROx9mxE
Also, Corelli is fucking awesome.

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>>74989394
Cut off your balls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7wTKQnopiE

>>74989394
Anon's advice will only work pre-puberty. Give up or transpose.

>>74989463
>tenor voice
>pre-puberty
That would give him a counter-tenor voice.

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>>74989449
Actually, I don't need to, I can hit high notes like a countertenor.

>>74989505
>raising fach post-puberty
that'll only remove his balls

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>>74989582
Proof? Post your boythroat or something.

>>74989449
thats not how voice development works

>>74970004
Why are British composers so shit? I've been looking for some good stuff but I just can't find it.

>>74989653
countertenor can exist post puberty anon

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>>74989582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOK9LusxZCc

Sometimes I like to think that I have a voice like Ivan Rebroff (a little higher), but it's kinda disappointing to know that I will never sing a high C with a manly voice, not even a Bb4.

>>74989668
>Purcell
>Locke
>Lawes
>Hume
>Hacquart
Dumb faggot.

>>74989706
[spoiler]Thanks for spoonfeeding me[/spoiler]

>>74989727
You got trolled. They're all shit.

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>>74989727
>implying you aren't playing right into my hands

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>>74989786
>>74989811
Cheeky bastards. Guess I'll just go listen to Nimrod again and kill myself .

>>74989835
Yes fuck off and don't touch my turf.

>>74989668
just do what I do and listen to arrangements of english folk tunes so you can pretend that you live in an idyllic 18th century seaside town

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>>74989856
I've always been here

>>74989727
#trolled

>>74989922
That's not what I mean, Sam.

>>74988677
>he hated Jews
Chopin confirmed neo-Nazi I literally can't even right now.

>>74990116
>neo
Chopin, like Mozart, is still alive. He just doesn't want to finish or at all claim ownership of that fugue.
More seriously though I don't think people who are dumb enough to say "Wagner was a fascist" think he was much more than a stepping stone to Nazism. I'm sure Wagneranon will call me out if I'm being retarded but my understanding is that Wagner was by all means a liberal in his lifetime.

>someone sneezes

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>>74990282
>coughing
>scrunching of pamphlets
>whispering
>lips smacking
>snoring

Post transcriptions that sounded better than the original instruments.

>>74990282
>crowd laughs
i miss this one actually

>>74990282
>old meme recording
>silence immediately after a movement or aria
>loud hacking and coughing can be heard in the audience

>>74990425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeETnlLqdJ8

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>>74990185

>>74990425
My cock transposed into your anus.

>>74990821
xD

>>74990425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLjqcahgKhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyyZFDSZsq0

>>74988596
After having read Wagner's biographies, I can honestly say that past his mid '30s he turnet into the worst kind of opportunist who has ever lived. Of course he was using said egotism to write some of the most incredible music ever concieved, but th point stands.

This is my speculation: he would have supported the Nazis in the same way Karajan did. He would have sucked Hitler's dick, and then he would have repented, so that he could atart sucking the next German leader's dick.
I understand him, good-will won't bring you anywhere if you are a composer, but I'm still 100% sure he would have supported the Nazis for money and performances.

>>74988635
>which I suspect was perhaps due to lingering respect for the man.

Nietzsche diwnright adored Cosima Wagner even after his breakup with Richard. That's probably why he waited so long to write Case Contra Wagner.

>>74988791
Wagner was more of a mentor, which means that Nietzsche was a bottom, but only intellectually.

Can somebody recommend me some arias for baritones?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i5D4ZW8O9o

>>74990961
>but I'm still 100% sure he would have supported the Nazis for money and performances.
>implying he wouldn't support the Nazis because he thought they were awesome dudes

>>74991920
He would have rejected them after their defeat. He may have had some sympathy, but he was a radical in nothing but egotism.

>>74991920
He hated big gov. and was politically alot more like Varg Vikernes than like the Nazis.

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>>74992128
Same here, desu

>>74992189
>implying he wouldn't have loved to suck nazi cock

post music that evokes childlike wonder and playful aimlessness

>>74975014
Only one I know is Concierto de Aranjuez

>>74992322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06GVrYP6NKs

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>>74975014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM

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What do i listen from him?

>>74992489
u dont

>>74992489
see >>74992528

>>74986116
>inb4 how do I into classical
>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes recordings of music by Bach, Mozart and others
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #7. Too lazy to write up a description for this, but it has a little of everything
https://mega.nz/#F!pWR0zABY!xCwF1rEfXiyEy5HuhTDP0Q
>General Folder #8. The anon who made this loves the yellow piss of DG on his face. Also there's some other stuff in here.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is an accompanying chart, available on request.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw

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>>74992410
is that image real?

>>74992410
MAMA

>>74982438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWDWP76fI8o

>>74970139
Ad Wammes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESottIcxLbU

Dohnanyi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53Mth91Mqc

>>74970139
Very interesting to listen to, thx anon

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can anyone recommend some composers with a style similar to dark ambient or drone
most classical I've heard is too whimsical
I want something that would pair nicely with a suicide

>>74995276
SO EDGY

>>74995276
Just listen to some dark ambient and commit suicide already, you faggot

>>74995386
I used suicide as an ecample of how dark i want to go
not that im suicidal or anything

>>74995276
I think classical is the very antithesis to suicide, giving you the reason to live by experiencing its beauty. Not forgetting the important religious connotation it carries.

The vast majority of "classical" music predates electronic music by quite some time, the technologically influenced aesthetics are simply not there. From the 1950s onwards this changed dramatically.

>>74995276
Schnittke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0xKMyQbymY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgDwmIGTrhk

>>74976419
Funny way to hold a bow tb h

I'm looking to make game music scores along the lines of Warcraft's soundtrack etc - I know theory, but not much about orchestration.

Any recommended reads that aren't too dense?

>>74996164
no

Ravel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKgcHjq1xKQ

>>74996164
Samuel Adler's "The Study of Orchestration"

Make sure you get the accompanying audio CDs

>>74996164
your best bet is literally finding pieces for orchestra you like and listening to them with the score

any orchestration manual will be limited, once you know the basic ranges and characteristic of each instrument you're better off studying scores

>>74995276
https://youtu.be/H__4F3t4IxE check out scelsi

>>74995544
Baroque bow hold

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeng5TaWLsY

>>74990425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIjesjmMq_g

>>74976018
this might interest you, he developed the same idea
https://www.scribd.com/document/125518784/Schenker-the-Decline-of-the-Art-of-Composition

How important is to have an impressive name when youre a classical composer? Would Beethoven be as big if he was named "Fritz the Cuck" or something like that? Schönberg sounds as scary as his own work, too.

>>74992591
Thank you anon

SERIOUS QUESTION
Is it a problem if I have a crush on my music teacher?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx6AlZ_mkkw
can you rec me something that sounds like this or better?

>>74970004
name a better aria, pro-tip; you can't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpVV9jShEzU

>>74998490
Arnold Beautiful Mountain is not a scary name.

>>74999569
If arias are the vocal equivalent of guitar wankery then sure. If you want beauty or anything other than crowd pleasing theatrics look elsewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPEDeWyWgw4

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>>74999613
You.
I like you.

>>74992702
JUST KILLED A MAN

>>74992489
You listen to Grisey and Murail instead of that race traitor cuck

>>74999578
Arnold Black Nigger is though (schwarzenegger)

>>74999137
nope just stick it up that gook's anus already. it'll make her go all tiger mom on you and you'll prob end up being the next mozart-beethoven combogenius.

>>74999757
how the fuck do you know my music teacher is a female chink
anyways its not her, its an older trombone man

>>74999799
so r u gna giv him da rusty trombone or wot soiboi

>>74999799
music teachers are either fat old white men or young-middle age asian ladies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieRQyyPowH0
Name a better string quartet.
Proti- ... No protips from me, I'm a pleb.

>>74999569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4vxQiA8Ghk

>>74999731
More like black egg dweller

>>74999840
patrish choice tho

>>74999799
Are you a gay?

>>74999818
I've heard the biggest factor in who becomes a good musician or not is how motivated they are about becoming good. If I practice SOLELY to impress him, will I become a god?

>>74999944
chasing genitalia is always a good motivation, so sure

choa

>>74999963
Has there ever been a famous musician who got motivated to practice because he had a crush on his teacher?

Soon there'll be, screencap dis!!11!

>>74999840
Schuberts Rosamunde, and Beethoven's 7th, 12th and 15th

also Bartok's 4th and 5th

>>74999840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBSCdt2bI5A

post cringe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3KUyPKbR7Q

>>75000466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJL3D1kuCyY

>>75000466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MwnIRdQzY&index=19&list=PLXNC8_wyTr-9oSd-4zfhdzbz9IKyl94lW

i wish this was me. he was the david lee roth of his day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuSiuMuBLhM

>>75000466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGKZgAaokZE

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>>75000966
CHANG'D

>>75000966
opera directors are a fan bunch

>>75000966
>reggietheater
>not even once

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>>75001434
>reggietheater

>>74981849
She moves so precisely she almost looks like an animatronic doll or something, it's very impressive.

>>74970401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NvXM09b4xU

>>74989786
Purcell is god tier.

>>74996164
This short video by Robert Israel has good ideas on how to create soundtracks for media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Zzry3u56c

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6I7CrvKo4

need more ethereal gregorian chant. point me somewhere

What's the best recording of Boris Godunov? A recording of the original version would be preferred.

>>75003468
his rondo is some good shit
so fucking catchy

>>75004069
Difficult to find an ideal recording of this. Gergiev is good for having two versions but they aren't especially distinguished, others have good leads but sound like ass. Personally I prefer Semkow although Gedda isn't at his best in this the lead is pretty good.

why the FUCK is there no recording of Maurice Delage's Ragamalika

>>74983932
Convert me into classical anon. I like a lot of the music I listen to but the technical terms and depth seems pretty overwhelming. Should I learn an instrument to appreciate things better? What about books on music appreciation or the history of classical music?

Here is my current favourite piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_321NFKkuU

df

post a piece you found thoroughly enjoyed and exclusively through /classical/ lurking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vr-qxq-KnA

>>75006827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l9Se8dPjBw

>conductor cracks a joke between movements

can anyone give provide me with a newbies list to quality classical music?
i know nothing.

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>>75007041
Mozart K. 1-626

>>75007041
tell us what you like, get recs

>>75005535
play an instrument
form a quartet or smth with other students to make it a social thing

Girlfriend sent my this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5xYDnHI8A

Performed by the USSR Ministry of Culture Symphony Orchestra
Composed by Sergei Prokofiev in 1985 (?)

>>75007111
I have no idea. I've never listened to classical. I've just turned 30 and i want to start getting into it. Ideally some good music to listen to while i work. so nothing too dramatic. but again i dont know. open to all options.

>>75007159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgg4eF2mNk

>>75007158
Composed 30 years after he died? Pretty talented guy.

>>75007234
hey don't blame me, description wasn't very clear. but yeah I enjoy it

>>75007191
>>75007111
nice, thanks. you got a beginners list of artists i can wade through?

>>75007289
get a list of notable composers from each period, explore different forms but follow your inclination
ask for recs when you find something you like

>>75007342
ok cheers. can you point me in the direction to get this list of notable composers? im aware i can google it, but wondering if there is a legit site that is preferable?
also whats 'recs'? records?

>>75007363
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_classical_music_composers_by_era
recommendations

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How the fuck have I not heard this before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQDj5JDFMQg

>>75007385
appreciated

>>75006827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tn3AiU0HcU

>>75007420
Oberlinger is a great performer, try her recording of the Fantasias and Handel

>>75007453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6s49OKp6aE

>>75007597
thats the biscuit. now i want to learn piano

>>75007630
http://www.pianopractice.org/FOPP3_2.pdf

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>>75007502
I'm familar with Oberlinger's discogs, as well as Goebel and Musica Antiqua Koln's. And I'm a massive Telemann cocksucker so that's why I was surprised why I haven't heard that specific piece.
Some more good Oberlinger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcsFUEEX5Rk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmjMvUoeFZM
>Handel
Lol no thanks.

>>75007654
thanks. will a keyboard do the job? if so any goodens?
a piano is pricey

>>75007726
nope
get a used yamaha p-85

Handel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wunrOfcMdHw

>>75007751
thanks for the tip. i aspire to be Derek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6HCXx8U6Ko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE49QHcqEpk

>>75008698
wut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGQq3HcOB0Y

>>75007006
>conductor BRAAAAAAAAAPS before the adagio

>>74970401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgfAWJbjvGg

>>74980786
To listen to Lohengrin with subs? I'd just open up http://www.rwagner.net/libretti/lohengrin/e-t-lohen.html and find a Lohengrin recording on the net and just follow along. I love the opera, but it's so static you could get away with switching back and forth. Plus following along will help your German skills

>>74989394
There actually are operatic tenors who started out as baritones. With practice, they were able to develop an extension on their voices and sound superb in that range. Johan Botha (RIP) and Michael Spyres supposedly both started as baritones

Botha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrjnelUsbZI
Spyres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8ccFix9W5s

>>75005535
Listen to your local classical radio station to get a wide exposure to random shit. Pretty soon you will start hearing resemblances and patterns and develop some tastes, which will change later on. Sample some of the shit that's posted in these stupid threads also

>>75009194
Name one (1) instance this happened.

>>75009808
Bernstein's Mahler

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>>75010021

I love Hammerklavier Sonata because it still sounds amazing no matter how badly you mess around with the speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NOF_ueaxJ4

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>varied exposition repeat in Mahler 2
post some more examples pls

can someone give me a rundown on classifications so I can avoid opera, and opera singing?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGEiJ44K3Oo

>>75013366
Don't listen to opera or lieder and you should be good.
Most Cantatas or Passions will have solo voice too so you could avoid them until you get over your aversion to vocal vibrato.

You could try to ease yourself into solo voice by listening to groups that use less vibrato - renaissance vocal music might be a start, or pieces like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjJ02agjjdo

>>75013396
this is pretty enjoyable anon, thanks for this. I was actually thinking of just asking for help on appreciating opera. this helped.

>>75009605
According to Melchior, to be a good heldentenor a person must start off as a baritone (and there are better examples of the voice type than Botha and Spyres).

petzold

>>74970004
Just out of curiosity, how long have these generals been on going I started browsing around '11 but left and didn't come back til this year. I don't remember seeing these threads that long ago but I may have been ignorant

how do i get the G L U C C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHW-ws_rhKk

>>75015168
always existed, evolution:
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/26152352/
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/47455349/
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/55896135/

>>75015168
I don't remember them existing when I started browsing here, around 2008.

What's the classical equivalent of bubblegum pop?

>>75015647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzkOFJMI5i8

>>75015647
Your favourite composer

>>75015647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRG6h6H0_ho
Or boipussy version if you prefer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHNeMcSdBCM

Puccini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXs5onlHKk

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Who is he?
Is this the true name of God?

>>75011810
wang lol

anyone know where i can find this? its not on rutracker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I50J4Z-eSg

Granados
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=310r2AOr0Lw

>>75015303
>tfw I can find some of my earliest posts about classical there
i am uncomfortable

Heard Ignaz Pleyel on the radio yesterday. Thought it was Haydn.

Scarlatti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK8I9VXrUJM

>>74999944
Unless you are doing smart practice it will be terrible inefficient. Someone who has a clear plan will make ten times the progress as someone whose practice schedule is inconsistent.

>>75016373
I believe it

from what country does the best composers come from, and why is it russia?

>>75020074
C'est France.

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have mozart any more pieces like this one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vne1E6VH23s

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>>75020104
france is acceptable

listening to camille saint-saens right now

>start getting into harpsichord stuff
>go back to listen to my download of The Well-Tempered Clavier
>it's on piano

What's a good recording of The Well-Tempered Clavier on harpsichord?

>>75021453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0ufknMW0FI

>>75021488

How the fuck did they record this? I've never heard a harpsichord sound like this, there's not a second instrument going on too is there?

>>75021453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioK1mrZcqf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou2-ovmkzvc

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>>75021453
>WTC on harpsichord

>>75021488
crisp

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Can anyone identify the composer in the portrait on the wall?

>>75022369
Looks like Schubert

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>>75022466
I think you're right. Thanks.

>>75022528
>tfw you'll never be ugly enough to be a great composer

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>>75022551
young schubert was pretty hot tho

>>75022580
The pact to become a great composer required him to forgo his good looks.

How do you guys feel about using online tools to self-learn piano?

For tags, you list the performer as the artist, and not the composer, right?

>>75022637
Ok if you're a hobbyist.

>>75022637
get a teacher

>>75022667
Yes

>>75023179
t. old guy that can't into computers

>>75017455
me too lad. Every so often I search the archive because I remembered a discussion I had a few years ago and wanted to look for a specific name. I do think it's pretty incredible how much I've learnt from posting in /classical/

Literally no reason to get a teacher when there are sites like teoria and youtube channels like this: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk24OnGLcP5XlTBjZ9WBWvw

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>>75021488
>1488

Any good albums for Rameu's harpsichord stuff? Recorded on harpsichord, of course

>>75023769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LTUc2XxF3c

>>75023610
I agree desu, the only thing teachers are good for nowadays is telling you what you should practice next according to your own exact conditions but as long as you are not retarded you can figure that out yourself.

the only times when teachers are necessary is if youre actually studying in university or something and got loads of shit to do which they can help you with.

>>75023795
dat nibba Scott Ross is a str8 boss on da harp. my fav wtc playa

>>75023813

Teachers are still solid for helping you figure out the basics, "you can figure that shit out yourself" yes once you've already had someone help you out with the fundamentals, also the more you want to do and the quicker you want to do it the better a teacher helps

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>>75023842
but why the bum aesthetic?

>>75023795

thx bud

>>75023873
well alright, fair point(s).

A teacher is also good to prevent you from becoming complacent.

I want a hot teacher like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PU6K39deME

>>75023610
How is a website or a youtube channel going to correct your technique when you are rarely aware yourself that you used improper form?

>>75024397
by telling you what correct technique is, and telling you to be mindful of it. whenever you are in doubt upload a video to some website and ask for advice.

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>>75013590
Pergolesi sucks lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFjxmHqNtyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXRtnZydQrI

>>75024991

>>75024991

>>75024991