Irish and Scottish slaves taught black slaves how to plat guitar.

lolmom i posted it again
sage

reminder that ban evasion is against the law

Are you a white supremusicst?

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>>74701124
I don't know what you're talking about? Anyway why does it make you so mad to talk about multicultural music origins? Its great to come together!

Reminder to report ban evaders.

>>74701151
Even if this thread got deleted, and I'm not the same person btw, that doesn't change the truth about blues. You realize that, right?

>>74701170
He literally doesnt realize that because hes fucking stupid

>>74701081
This isn't some revelation. Only idiots think that black people invented the foundation of all modern music without influence from previous music.

>>74701219
Seems like Celts invented the foundations of modern music?

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>>74701081
Black people had been playing pentatonic-scale-based music for many hundreds of years in Africa. They definitely brought over certain musical traditions of their own.

Sure, there was almost definitely a good deal of influence from white musicians on blues music. But if you're going to be intellectually honest about it, you have to also recognize the original contributions from African musical traditions. You should also acknowledge the influence of African music on white American folk music. For instance, the banjo was an instrument invented by black slaves, based on African instruments like the akonting.

>>74701311
But what does this have to do with anything? Blues is celtic scales played in european instruments. What is the specific influence? Clearly blues musicians didn't think much of those african traditions, if they even knew they existed.

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>>74701081
>irish people invented modern music
celtpill taken

>>74701081
yeah but anon, the original Irish were black

Bump
Good thread despite the shitposters

>>74701331
>Blues is celtic scales played in european instruments

But it's not. The pentatonic scale is not a Celtic invention. In fact it was invented around the world independently in literally thousands of different cultures. And I'd have to say that the pentatonic scale was more integral to African music than Celtic music. The guitar was an instrument that came over from Europe, certainly. But blues wasn't originally played on the guitar.

- A lot of blues music was originally played on instruments like the banjo.
- A lot of blues music has origins in the kinds of chants and work songs sung by black slaves.
- And there were a lot of other forms and instruments involved.

You might not consider this stuff "proper blues." But you should at least acknowledge this kind of stuff as "proto-blues." And in this "proto-blues" the African influence is often much more clear.

See e.g.:
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6mRdPP6wRo
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsiYfk5RV_Q

Learn to music history, bro.

>>74701501
But all those examples show is that your proto blues or whatever were put aside in favor of the celtic folk scale. Same with the instruments. There may be influence there but it is by no means the dominant one. The influence of the celtic folk scale and european instruments is obviously more present.

>>74701569
What the fuck is the "Celtic folk scale?"

These examples of proto-blues use the pentatonic scale. The same scale that was primarily used in later blues. Nothing was ever "put aside."

friendly reminder that this is a troll and y'all care too much about which race did what

It's music. If you trace anything back far enough you can claim the person before last actually invented the new sound, it's a flawed way of looking at things. Take Punk for an example, you can trace the roots of punk all the way back to the 50's and call Link Wray's band the first punk band, but nobody does that because it's retarded. Focusing on the origin of a music genre almost always becomes pedantic

>>74701621
It's not really about proving that blacks created blues music (because clearly it's not that simple). It's about correcting the assertion that blues is basically just a continuation of Celtic folk music (as continued by blacks) - an assertion which is clearly ridiculous.

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>>74701621
>y'all

The issue with such an outlandish claim is how do you explain every goddamn culture having some form of a pentatonic scale?

Imagine being such a delusional """"race realist"""" conspiracy theorist shitlord that you have to spin a pathetic yarn about how black people even stole MUSIC from white people.
How you people consider yourselves rationalists is a mystery for the ages.

I was listening to cylinder rips of turn-of-the-century era blues and country, and the color of the musician is literally the only difference.

You can disregard if you want to be an ignorant, politicized, flouridated faggot.

>>74701844
>why does every culture have a half-step
>why does every culture have a whole-step
>why does every culture have a pentatonic scale
>why does every culture have a tonic pitch
>why does every culture have a music

Because it's fucking dope.

The people trying to lay some sort of ancestral claim to these things are the very same as those who have difficulty harnessing them. If you could play music, you'd do that instead of writing for Vice or p4k about appropriation and suffering and any number of other loaded terms.