>tfw your favorite genre is completely nonpolitical Is

>>74679199
everything is politics you naivefag

>>74679199
Literally not possible in 2017. Artist may have had no political intentions but the music will be put in one of the two groups by the listeners.

>having a favorite genre
ha

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>when an artist you love is not only not an sjw but a right winger

>>74679199
I love neofolk too

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Is prog rock political?
I'd say that other than blatant musical activism, there aren't really any inherently political genres, except maybe hip-hop

>>74680478
Anarco punk

>>74680297
>neofolk
>nonpolitical

>>74679199
so u talking bout power metal or brostep?

you can't be nonpolitical on a moving train ffs, this is the absolute bottom of the barrel level feel

>tfw you're a shoegazer
It's great man

>classical
>tfw made before all the left right politics bullshit

No wonder why it's the best genre ever

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>>74680291
>tfw when the only right winter artists are Ted Nugent and Kid Rock and right wingers literally are incapable of making good art

Drone master race

most of the music i listen to is instrumental so it doesnt even run the risk of being political

>>74680478
Some Prog's very political (Waters-led Floyd, some Gabriel stuff) but it's probably one of the least political genres

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>Listening to political music at all

>mfw kawaii pop is apolitical
feels good

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>>74679199
>tfw you're completely nonpolitical so you can listen to any genre and not be triggered
Is there a better feel?

>>74680273
Not true in the least bit

>>74680273
Man imagine having politics to be the biggest part of your life like this. Fucking sad honestly.

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>>74679199
>tfw artist you like specifically calls on people of your political persuasion to not listen to their music

>>74680478
>he doesn't realize most hip hop nowadays is so dumb that it is not even political anymore

>>74682064
there hasn't been a single good artist in the history of music that's done that kind of stunt

which genres are non-political?

>>74682047
imagine being this naive and not understanding how pervasive politics is

>>74679199
You know what's weird with this is, usually the sorts of bands who spout off about politics all the time tend to not talk about it a whole lot in their music while a lot of bands that feature politics a lot in their lyrics seem pretty relaxed on people with opposing viewpoints listening to their music or whatever.

>>74682094
imagine being this young and not realizing that everybody injecting politics where it doesnt belong is a trend that comes and goes in waves, and that it is not an inherent factor in everything

>>74681711
Buzz Osborne
Johnny Ramone
Skrewdriver

These people have made at least one good album

>>74682093
Folk

>>74681680
Do you want to know how I know you don't listen to classical?
Go choke on a dick you retarded faggot.

>>74682064
>listen to it anyway

DEVILISH

>>74681711
Excuse me

>Right Wing Artists:
>Richard Wagner - Proto Nazi??
>Igor Stravinsky - Fascist
>Elvis Presley - Conservative
>James Brown - Conservative
>Frank Zappa (The Mothers of Invention) - Libertarian
>George Harrison (The Beatles) - Libertarian
>Maureen Tucker (Velvet Underground) - Libertarian
>Eric Clapton (Cream) - Conservative
>Iggy Pop (The Stooges) - Conservative
>Christian Vander (Magma) - Fascist
>Johnny Ramone (Ramones) - Conservative
>Neil Peart (Rush) - Libertarian
>David Bowie - Fascist
>Ian Curtis (Joy Division) - Conservative
>Danny Elfman (Oingo Boingo) - Conservative
>Prince - Conservative
>Morrisey (The Smiths) - Conservative
>Douglas P. (Death in June) - Fascist
>Dave Mustaine (Megadeth) - Conservative
>Varg Vikernes (Burzum) - weirdo-nazi
>Buzz Osborne (Melvins) - Classical Liberal
>Big Boi (OutKast) - Libertarian
>MF DOOM (Madvillain) - Conservative
>Peter Steele (Type O Negative) - Conservative
>Neil Young - Libertarian/Conservative
>Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins) - Conservative
>Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day) - Libertarian
>Glenn Danzig (Misfits) - Conservative
>James Hetfield (Metallica) - Conservative

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>>74682312
Some of these are just inaccurate, based on rumour or outdated, but a lot of them are right

>>74682406
Not really. Are of them are correct. If I were to consider rumors I would have added John Lennon, for example.
Nice chart though, will add some of those to the list. I'm pretty sure we could make a top 50 or something.

I just listen to The Times They Are A Changin' and imagine it's about a Right-Wing takeover

lil pump is the only real apolitical artist

>>74682406
Dang those aren't bad. I always thought right wingers were just shitty kid rock country bumpkins and nazi skinheads.

>>74682406
Jhonny Rotten supported Brexit

>>74682565
Doesn't make him right-wing and he was against it before the referendum anyway. His point was you can't have a democratic referendum and ignore the results of it, so he supported it after it was shown that public opinion was in favour of it.

>>74682556
This is your brain on Democrat brainwash.

>>74682406
putting Zappa in is really stretching it

>>74682592
>DELET THIS!1
t. you

>>74682592
Imagine being this ignorant and/or retarded.

>>74682607
>>74682599
nice arguments triggered faggots

>>74682620
you got me desu fampai

>>74682620
Zappa is the least stretch on there, he was pretty clear libertarian and called himself a "sensible conservative" or something to that effect.

>>74682312
David Bowie wasn't actually a fascist you mong

>>74682620
If you knew anything about Zappa you would know he was a Libertarian (or a "practical conservative" in his own words). Supported free market policies and a reduction of the state (in his own words, the state should only provide for the military and law enforcement).
Now fuck off.

>>74682649
He was for a while. It wasn't all an act.

>>74682626
He was against Reaganism in his time. Calling Libertarianism purely conservative is reductive to the point of retardation.

>>74682668
fuck off useless tripshit

>>74682677
>free market
>low taxes
>small government
>not right wing
Dude

>>74682677
You don't have to support all right-wing politicians to be right-wing. Is anyone who doesn't support Hillary a conservative?

>>74682701
>right wing means only economic matters
Moron

>>74682527
Lil pump is the only artist

>>74682696
Good argument home boy

>>74682312
You keep posting this, are you on your "redpill" phase now?

>>74682713
He is fiscally Conservative and anti-authoritarian, pretty libertarian. Just because he was against the Christian Right doesn't make him not conservative. If so that means Barry fucking Goldwater isn't right wing.

>>74682703
A lot of these SJW types use an Us and Them type of argument, I'm fairly left wing but I usually get called a nazi by these guys because I'm not in their hate group.

>>74682406
What a shitty collection of albums
>kiss
>iron maiden
>megadeth
As if we needed more proof conservatives are children

>>74682800
and what about the other 22?

>>74682813
All shit apart from James Brown

>>74682813
not that guy but metal and hip hop are childish trash

>>74682677
Frank Zappa was right wing, not necessarily conservative. Big difference.

>>74682713
He never implied such a thing. The fascists were economically left wing but are still considered right wing, for example.

>>74682741
Nah, this is more motivated by the stupidity of people who think right wing artists can't make good art. Some of the greatests ever where right wing not only in music but in other art forms.

>>74682800
There are conservatives in all kinds of styles.

>>74682744
idk who barry goldman is why don't you use an example from this century
>>74682897
>fascists
>left wing in anyway
get out

>>74682990
Laughing at this post desu

>>74682990
>he doesn't know Goldman
>he doesn't know fascists are economically left wing
How does it feel to be politically illiterate?
Also, friendly reminder that Fascism was born out of Socialism.

>listen to dnb
>mostly instrumental with vocals here and there
>totally apolitical

the fags who make it are another story, the music itself is pure

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>>74682897
>The fascists were economically left wing
Oh no
It's retarded

>>74682406
>It's either a stretch to call the artist conservative or a stretch to call the album good

>>74683053
>state control of the economy is right wing
Interesting. Stalin confirmed as a fascist now.

>>74683079
The economy of the USSR was in no way similar to the economy of fascist Italy and Germany. The fact that the government was heavily involved in the economy doesn't change that.

>>74683170
So, you are telling me that state controlled economies (such as the ones used by the fascists) are right wing economic models?

>>74683205
I'm telling you that "state controlled" is a useless indicator of how left-wing or right-wing an economy is. Fascists had the state intervene heavily in the economy but they specifically promoted corporate interests in doing so.

>>74683259
lol

>>74683309
Not an argument

>>74683309
It's true, though. Even though the state intervened, the German economy was in no way communist

>>74683564
>left wing starts from communism
wtf i want death of all leftists now

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>>74682312
Neil Young supported Bernie Sanders you idiot

>>74683606
He also supported Bush and is a self described Libertarian, so eat shit.

>>74683606
>my amazing sounding music company

lol

>>74684194
He wrote "Let's Impeach The President" about Bush, so I don't know where you gathered that from, and I'm going to need a source on that latter one.

>>74682312
MF DOOM and Ian Curtis are conservatives? I didn't know that.

>>74682312
>>Prince - Conservative
I call bullshit on this. Prince was fairly liberal all throughout his life. There's nothing really to indicate that he was a Conservative.

>>74682183

You won't like this but the other anon is actually right. There's no escaping politics because politics is what happens when you have more than one human being.

"herp derp instrumental music and math and planets and shit like that are apolitical"

This is you.

>>74680478
ur retarded

>>74682093
Grunge

>>74682195
Imagine being this pleb

>favorite genre is slowcore
>none of the artists ever even talk about politics let alone inject it into their lyrics
>getting only that premier sadness and none of the political whining
Feels superior man

>>74684550
Ian Curtis was a fan of Margret Thatcher.

>>74684247
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/589986/posts
He's still a self identified Libertarian anyways, so I insist, eat shit.

>>74684594
>fairly liberal
>was anti-gay marriage and donated to a republican presidential candidate
El Oh El! He's definitely a conservative

>>74685311
>favorite genre is slowcore
>none of the artists ever even talk about politics
>Mark Kozelek is a mysgonist asshole who called a female journalist a bitch
I don't think so.

>>74682094
imagine unironically caring about politics
imagine self-identifying as a follower of a certain political ideology

>>74682093
Field recordings

>>74682312
There is literally not a single good artist in this list, except for maybe Stravinsky

>>74686141
Except for those ones of Nazi/Commie marches

>>74686169
That's because you're a pleb

>>74685857
I don't consider that political nor do I consider latter day grumpy Koz a slowcore artist
Young long haired twink Mark dindu nuffin

>>74686169
Give some examples of good artists then.

>>74682312
Nice bait m8

>>74685569
>Young agreed with one Bush policy immediately after 9/11 and therefore he is right-wing
That's not how it works, and I'm waiting on that source on him being a Libertarian. And, again, he later wrote Let's Impeach the President because he felt misled by him.

>>74679199
I love ambient music too

>>74688046
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/arts/music/brian-eno-the-ship.html?mcubz=0

>>74682312
>Danny Elfman - Conservative

He was Libertarian when he was 20 but now he's Independent and voted for antichrist Obama. Iggy Pop's similar. MF DOOM is an obvious no. Same with Neil Young. Harrison was not right-wing.

Prince was kind of conservative but also he was kind of politically retarded so you can have him
>So here’s how it is: you’ve got the Republicans, and basically they want to live according to this [the Bible]. But there’s the problem of interpretation, and you’ve got some churches, some people, basically doing things and saying it comes from here [again, the Bible], but it doesn’t. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum you’ve got blue, you’ve got the Democrats, and they’re, like, ‘You can do whatever you want.’ Gay marriage, whatever. But neither of them is right.

>Big Boi (Outkast)
Everyone knows Andre is the artist in Outkast

>Morrisey
>Billy Corgan
>Varg
>James Hetfield
scraping the bottom of the barrel already?

>>74688480
Doom actually did say he voted McCain, but it wouldn't be right to pigeonhole him on one vote

>>74684194
>supported Bush
Nice blanket statement pleb

He actually legitimately supported Bernie Sanders, the most leftist commie candidate in American history, so I think you just got btfo by the facts. Keep lying to yourself tho

>>74688600
pigeonholing based on one vote is how half of the artists are on that "right-wing" list. Like Zappa's main political view was anti-authoritarian, not right-wing. On a compass he'd be at the center-bottom. That list poster literally thinks "Libertarian == right-wing", doesn't even know that's only half of the Libertarian spectrum

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>>74682312
>David Bowie
>Magma
>Fascist
Stop this meme.

>>74687716
https://www.pastemagazine.com/high_gravity/2008/09/5-biggest-democratic-musicians-and-5-biggest-repub.html
Also, this
http://thrasherswheat.org/ptma/reagan.htm
>NEIL: I never made, you know, I was never a Reagan supporter in a total blanket sense. I was one of those who felt that some ideas he had were good ideas. He had one point that he was stressing in the first six months of his job that he thought the people in the communities and neighborhoods should pull together and try to do things on their own more than depending on government to do it for them.

>>74688480
>He was Libertarian when he was 20
Source for that? My source said he became a "nationalist conservative" according to himself.

>Iggy Pop's similar
Source?

>MF DOOM is an obvious no
He voted McCain.

>Same with Neil Young
See above.

>Harrison was not right-wing
Yet he made a song calling for a tax reduction for the richest?

>Everyone knows Andre is the artist in Outkast
That will be left to the readers to decide.

>scraping the bottom of the barrel already?
Those are all very well documented.

>>74688629
See above.

>>74688699
>On a compass he'd be at the center-bottom
[citation needed]

>That list poster literally thinks "Libertarian == right-wing"
No, I'm using Libertarian as in right wing Libertarian, the pro-capitalist kind, not your shitty "socially liberal" shit you learned from politicalcompass.org

>doesn't even know that's only half of the Libertarian spectrum
Retard. There is no Libertarian spectrum. There are just right wing Libertarians which are an extreme version of Classical Liberalism and Left Wing Libertarians which are a specific brand of Socialism.

>>74688714
It's true.

>>74688766
>Yet he made a song calling for a tax reduction for the richest?
You have to realise that in the context that was written in the top tax bracket was 95% in the UK. Unless you're a raving Marxist most people would not be happy with that, doesn't mean he was a "tax is theft" sort of person or anything

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>>74682406
>the smiths
>kiss
>iron maiden
>megadeath

>>74688811
>complain about high taxes while working in at the non capital intensive entertainment industry that is music
He was a greedy capitalist, deal with it. Also, the amount of taxes taken from him is money that would have been publicly spent for things such as welfare, public infrastructure, and public services. The guy was in no way a leftie.
If anything, people working at non capital intensive industries should pay more taxes than regular business owners.

>>74679199
Most music is non political thankfully. We notice when music is political because usually it's not

>>74688859
Greedy capitalist =/= right-wing
Capitalism is not an exclusive ideology to the right-wing. Liberalism is founded in capitalism. It's not until you hit the harder left that they start rejecting it. And, again, it's not an anti-tax song, it's anti-extremely-high-tax-rate-put-in-place-by-a-socialist-government song. The Stones left the country over it, as did Michael Caine, The Who considered it. He could have been right-wing, but it's hard to make a case on that basis alone

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>>74688766
>I was never a Reagan supporter in a total blanket sense
>continues to make blanket statements about Young supporting right-wing ideology
>continues to ignore that 30 years later he's supporting the prime communist American candidate

>Source?
not that hard to find, esp on Iggy

>MF DOOM voted McCain once so now he's the leader of the GOP
>again continues to make the most blanket of statements
>ignores MF DOOM's critique of American military-industrial complex, the hallmark of right-wing ideology

>Harrison made a song calling for tax reduction
my fucking sides

>That will be left to the readers t-
No, it's literally the objective truth, even Big Boi knows this. Again, right-wingers can't art.

>Those are very well documented
I wasn't suggesting they weren't, I'm just saying you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel because those ""artists"" are absolute shit and it's sad that you had to add them to fill out the list

>[citation needed]
pic related

>implying Zappa was right-wing

>there is no Libertarian spectrum
>describes the Libertarian spectrum
>hmm... right... left.... ..center?

>>74688918
>Greedy capitalist =/= right-wing
I know, but you get the idea. Harrison was right wing liberal or libertarian. And yes, it is an anti-tax song, regardless of how high or low the tax was at the moment. The meaning behind is clear, he supported a model based on lower taxes, and that's a model followed by conservatives and right wing liberals.

>>74688937
>not that hard to find, esp on Iggy
No source it seems. By the way, he declared his republican candidacy. He sure isn't conservative now lol, and it was last year. So yeah, you must be using shit sources made up by yourself if you think he's not right wing.

>ignores MF DOOM's critique of American military-industrial complex, the hallmark of right-wing ideology
Holy shit, you know many right wingers are against the military-industrial complex? Even some Trump supporters were against that. I know you are a retarded burger because only they think that's a an inherently ideology to the right wing. By the way, Obama kept this model alive despite not being conservative.

>my fucking sides
It's true.

>No, it's literally the objective truth, even Big Boi knows this. Again, right-wingers can't art.
Again, if it's the objective truth, readers will be able to tell that apart, but you are the first one to mention this, so I doubt it.

>I wasn't suggesting they weren't, I'm just saying you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel because those ""artists"" are absolute shit and it's sad that you had to add them to fill out the list
It's understandable for the artists you mentioned except for Varg. Morrisey and Corgan still have a noticeable following on /mu/, the Megadeth guy is certainly the shittiest and least relevant one though.

>>74688937
>pic related
You are a retard if you think that the politicalcompass.org is anything but serious. Even then, I still see no source on him being center-"libertarian". The guy was right libertarian. Pro free market and pro state reduction to the point of the state being reduced to the military and law enforcement only. He even called himself a "pragmatic conservative".

>>there is no Libertarian spectrum
>describes the Libertarian spectrum
I didn't describe a spectrum. There is the left libertarian niche (a specific brand of socialism), and the right libertarian niche (a specific brand of liberalism). It's not a spectrum, those are two different ideologies that happen to have the same name. Center-Libertarianism is not a thing, for instance.

>>74689109
>anti-tax song, regardless of the context
huh

>Iggy voted for Killary
>yeah he's pure right-wing

Source on MF DOOM being a right-winger other than the "buh he voted McCain" thing? Yeah some Trump supporters were against that but also most Trump supporters are rightfully angry but hopelessly confused as to where to actually place the blame for the anger, so

>implying Obama isn't a conservative
lol

>It's true
I know but the fact that you extrapolate a blanket "right-winger" label from an anti-tax song is fucking funny

>you are the first one to mention this
Have you literally never heard of Outkast before? This fact has been noted thousands of times. Everyone except you knows Andre is the artist and Big Boi is the anti-abortion sidekick

>Morrisey and Corgan still have a noticeable following on /mu/
So does GYBE to a larger extent and they're even worse, it means nothing.

>You are a retard if you think that the politicalcompass.org
Literally my first time hearing of this site

Look at a political compass and look at the horizontal line. Anything above it is Authoritarian, anything below is Libertarian. And you can go left and right from there, or be in the middle, so yeah it's a spectrum how can you be this naive

>>74682312
Libertarians are not conservative you tard. Don't lump us in with your neckbeard bootlicker asses.

>>74689109
Literally the only source on Iggy Pop launching a Repulican candidacy is from a satirical blog

>>74689417
I did take the context into account, see above.

>Iggy voted for Killary
>yeah he's pure right-wing
He is though. A lot of conservatives voted for Hillary. I would have done the same considering how shitty the whole situation was, because realistically speaking it was her or Trump. Also, Hillary is in favor of the military industry complex, so...

>Source on MF DOOM being a right-winger other than the "buh he voted McCain" thing?
That's the only thing we know so far, so unless you find some evidence that he would be not Republican despite voting for McCain it's safe to assume he is indeed a conservative.

>Yeah some Trump supporters were against that
Thanks, that's all I was saying. Military industry complex is neither right wing nor left wing, even though I agree it leans right. It's kind of like Brexit in a way.

>implying Obama isn't a conservative
>he said while previous implying Hillary wasn't a conservative either
LOL

>I know but the fact that you extrapolate a blanket "right-winger" label from an anti-tax song is fucking funny
Well, I don't know of many left wing persons who would vote for a reduction of taxes. Personally, I think taxes should have been reduced to almost everybody but them, a 95% tax for them was about right, especially considering guys like John Lennon could still afford to live in the most expensive buildings and etc.

>Have you literally never heard of Outkast before? This fact has been noted thousands of times. Everyone except you knows Andre is the artist and Big Boi is the anti-abortion sidekick
Alright, I will reconsider that.

>So does GYBE to a larger extent and they're even worse, it means nothing.
GYBE are one of the most important artists of the last two decades, so...

>>74689417
>Literally my first time hearing of this site
I'm sorry then, it's just that there is a great deal of misinformation coming from that site regarding stuff like "Libertarian" meaning "not socially conservative", which is ridiculous because Libertarianism has been a very specific thing.

>Look at a political compass and look at the horizontal line. Anything above it is Authoritarian, anything below is Libertarian.
This is wrong. Libertarianism are two specific niches from two different ideologies. That compass (which was taken from politicalcompass.org by the way) is unreliable, and was done by a hobbyist at best. Again, that axis has no academic validity. Even then, Frank Zappa was in the bottom right according to that chart (if we consider "Libertarian" to be "socially liberal", and "left and right" to purely economic matters).

>>74689443
They are right wingers, that's all. Also, Libertarians are idiots. The NAP is stupid as is dealing without taxes and reducing the state to law enforcement and the military only.

>>74689500
Huh, that's weird. Regardless, he still admitted to being a conservative in the past.

>>74689546
>GYBE are one of the most important artists of the last two decades, so...

>most important artists of the last two decades
>is an alt-left communist collective

do we really need anymore debating on whether left or right-wingers are better at art?

>>74682312
>Forgetting Pantera

>>74689705
Well, Frank Zappa, a Right Wing Libertarian, is the most important rock artist ever, Stravinsky, a Monarchist/Fascist, is the most important classical composer of the modern period, Funk, one of the most important modern genres ever was invented by James Brown, a conservative, the list could go on... So, yeah, I don't know, I guess Right Wingers were the bests at art.

Even then, this debate was never about which side made better music, just take the right wing makes good music.

>>74682093
most music isn't political at all. thats why when it's made it stands out.

>>74689546

>pure right-wing
>voted for the bane of right-wingers
doesn't compute. Also, stop spreading President Iggy fake news

>it's safe to assume MF DOOM is indeed a conservative.

>pigeonholing based on one vote
>being this unironically stupid
pick both

>implying I implied Hillary isn't a conservative, rather than implying that she's the right-wing bogeyman

>a 95% tax for them was about right
are you even conservative

>GYBE are one of the most important
had to stop reading there, sorry. Shameful and objectively wrong

>implying Libertarianism isn't a spectrum and is just two "specific niches"
>implying Libertarianism wasn't originally a leftist term that was hijacked by Americans smart enough to be disillusioned with the GOP but still too stupid to go left
haha sure

>>74689773
that's a lot of bad opinion for one post

>>74688937
>military-industrial complex, the hallmark of right-wing ideology
this is why people think Americans are fucking stupid.

>>74689847
Alright, fuck off now:
http://terryflew.blogspot.cl/2008/11/who-did-iggy-pop-vote-for-in-us.html
Iggy Pop supported Reagan. He's a conservative. Voting for Hillary doesn't make him a not a conservative.

>pigeonholing based on one vote
Do you see any evidence on MF DOOM not being right wing? No? But we have evidence of him voting for a right wing candidate, right? Maybe he is right wing after all...

>implying I implied Hillary isn't a conservative, rather than implying that she's the right-wing bogeyman
>implying she can't be both
The wonders of the US' democratic system.

>are you even conservative
I'm not. I'm a liberal. It's fine for high earning musicians to have high taxes since unlike the high earning business owners their money doesn't translate that well into the economy. A high tax for business can be bad for the economy, a high tax for high earning musicians doesn't do jack shit about the economy.

>had to stop reading there, sorry. Shameful and objectively wrong
Eh, okay. I'm not a fan of them, but I still don't deny they are one of the most original bands for their time.

>implying Libertarianism wasn't originally a leftist term that was hijacked by Americans smart enough to be disillusioned with the GOP but still too stupid to go left
My point exactly. Left Libertarianism was a specific brand of socialism, and eventually appeared Right Wing Libertarianism which is just a specific brand of liberalism. The fact that both share the same name is either a coincidence or a great political plan, but none of that implies that "Libertarianism" is a spectrum. It's evidently not based on what we just said.

>>74689875
Elaborate.

>>74689943
>if an artist supports a conservative, he is a conservative
>but if he supports a liberal, he's a conservative
Nice logic

>>74689977
some conservatives voted for hillary because they didn't like trump.

>>74689939
Thank god someone else ITT gets it.

>>74689977
The funny thing is that the other poster implied that Obama was a conservative, and in the same post implied that Hillary wasn't. So yeah, nice logic to that one guy.

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If we are talking about art in general, then the greatest painter of the 20th century, Francis Bacon, was conservative and says so in an interview with David Sylvester:

DS: That is to say, the whole set-up of society today suits you and your attitude towards work?

FB: I want my life to be as free as possible, I just want the best kind of atmosphere to work in. And so in politics I have tended to vote for the Right because they are less idealistic than the Left and therefore one is freer than one would be if encumbered by the idealism of the Left. I always feel that for me the Right is the best of a bad job.

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>>74680273
>he doesn't know about kpop

>>74685569
>He's still a self identified Libertarian anyways, so I insist, eat shit.
I can self-identify as a vegan but it doesn't mean shit if I'm saying it while chewing a piece of steak.

>>74690032
>then the greatest painter of the 20th century
>Francis Bacon
holy shit lol
You could have said Dali, at least (he became a Franquist Fascist). You would still be wrong, just not THAT wrong.

>>74690057
Not a good analogy. Political views are based on personal views, being a vegan or not is based on your acts. Lmao at you thinking you know Young's political views better than him though, 10/10

>>74690037
Capitalism

>>74689943

Neil Young supported Reagan too but he's a communist, so your point fails. Iggy voted for a Democrat once so now he is a liberal, just like MF DOOM but opposite

>Do you see any evidence on MF DOOM not being right wing?
Smokes weed. Also, there is no evidence of him being right wing. Voting for a RINO once does not make you right wing, you can't seriously be this retarded

>implying she can't be both
>implying that's not exactly what I was implying in the first place before you implied that I was implying differently
Alright, fuck off

>A high tax for business can be bad for the economy
>implying

>most original bands for their time
they're really not, though

>My point exactly
it's still a spectrum, and no libertarianism is not a specific anything
>coincidence
not at all

>>74690082
You've still not provided a source from his mouth that he's a Libertarian, just a single article that mentions it in passing without a source

>>74690082
how do you make yourself believe that someone other than Francis Bacon is the greatest painter of the 20th century?

>>74690082
>Political views are based on personal views
"Dude it's subjective so that I can do the opposite of what I say lmao"

>>74689998
Actually if you read it again, you just imagined that I implied that

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I feel like that there is a better vibe when there is no message that's being hit over your head.

>>74690101
>supported Reagan
>is a communist
You can't be any more retarded, can you?
Also
>he's a communist
[citation needed]

>Iggy voted for a Democrat once so now he is a liberal, just like MF DOOM but opposite
The thing is he also voted for Reagan, so that's 1 against 1 versus 1 against 0. Also, voting for Hillary could also mean you don't want Trump to win, who is not your average conservative. My point still stands.

>implying she can't be both
>implying that's not exactly what I was implying in the first place before you implied that I was implying differently
Yeah, because you are a mess.

>A high tax for business can be bad for the economy
>implying
This is not arguable.

>they're really not, though
Who then?

>it's still a spectrum
[citation needed]

>libertarianism is not a specific anything
Learn a political history book.

>coincidence
>not at all
I mean, sure, both are socially liberal as opposed to socially conservative, but that's about it.

>>74690126
The article is enough proof.

>>74690134
Ever heard of this pretty unknown guy called Pablo Picasso who is almost unanimously considered to be the greatest painter of the 20th century?

>>74690142
You actually can.

>>74690153
You literally did imply that Obama was a conservative though.

>>74690186
>You actually can.
I'm glad we've come to an agreement that one can be a liar.

>>74690207
I would call it an act of hypocrisy actually. Like a murderer who preaches that murder is wrong, even if he believes this to be true, he could still go kill someone. Again, he would be an hypocrite, but you can't say he's a liar or that he's not against murder.

>>74689939
>this is why
>implying the right isn't fixated on constantly bloating the military budget and starting wars while slashing literally everything else

Not even close, bud. Hypocritical imperialism and Nixon and Bush and Trump and basically every modern GOPresident is why people know Americans are fucking stupid

To read later: https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/its-not-just-kate-bush-big-parts-of-rock-n-roll-are-quietly-right-wing/

>>74690237
I noticed a mistake in your post. You left out the Democrat presidents like Obama and Clinton. Those did the same things. Be more careful next time!

>>74690186
seen exhibitions of Picasso and Bacon - Bacon is better

>>74690082

Not only are you a tripfag, but you're fuckin stupid too. Jesus.

Interesting the stuff from this article: >>74690267

To the Neil Young and Iggy Pop poster:
>Neil Young endorsed Reagan in 1980 and Ross Perot in 1992
>In the 1970s Iggy Pop (James Newell Osterberg from Muskegon, Michigan) released a magnificent, howling opus called ‘I’m a Conservative’. Brilliant, brilliant satire, the liberal music press agreed, clapping their hands. Until Iggy said: ‘Uh, no, I actually am a conservative.’
The point is settled. They were both right wing.

>>74690283
Again, consensus is unanimously that Picasso was THE greatest one, arguably Cezanne but he was kind of playing a different game back then. Picasso is also the greater artists since his work went beyond just painting.

>>74690303
That's what everybody says when I manage to prove them wrong lol

>>74690186
>not taking the communist comment facetiously considering I'd mentioned earlier that he supports Bernard Sanders, prime communist of the USA
>being this retarded
>projecting this hard

The average Republican supports Trump so I think you're wrong there

>you are a mess
>implying I literally said "Obama is a conservative, Hillary is not" in the same post rather than point out Iggy voted for the right-wing bogeyman
>being this retarded again
>projecting this hard again

>This is not arguable
>implying

>Who then?
Pavement is objectively more important than GYBE and influenced more and better artists than all of GYBE wannabes

>Learn a political history book
>more projection
"Libertarianism (Latin: libertas, "freedom") is a collection of political philosophies" i.e., not a specific thing

>>74690447
>The average Republican supports Trump so I think you're wrong there
Of course, but he still wasn't your average Republican.

>Pavement is objectively more important than GYBE
Pavement suck though lol
>and influenced more and better artists than all of GYBE wannabes
More? Yes. Better? No lol

>"Libertarianism (Latin: libertas, "freedom") is a collection of political philosophies" i.e., not a specific thing
Learn political history.

captcha: catalunya calle

>>74682556

This is what (((they))) want you to believe

>>74690354
Neil's views seem very mixed, as does his voting record. Yes he voted for Reagan, but he also voted for Sanders. To look at that and say he's a Conservative is as wrong as to look at it and say he's a Socialist. He most probably has a mix of views and votes for whoever fits best, like most of the population do. The man who wrote "Ohio" or "Let's Impeach the President" is certainly not a straight Conservative, but nor is he pigeonholeable as a lefty either. He's probably non-partisan and votes dependant on what needs to be done at the time.
That quote about Iggy self-identifying as a Conservative seems to have been pulled out of Liddle's arse, quite frankly. Again, yes, Iggy voted for Reagan, but he also did some work campaigning for Bill Clinton and was outspokenly against Bush. Again, he's most likely another person with a mix of views and a non-partisan position who votes for whoever fits best with what he thinks needs to be done at the time. Again, this is like the majority of people.
It's also worth noting that Reagan's platform at the time was very much focused on heartland America. A lot of traditionally more liberal people voted for him compared to most other Republican candidates at that time, most of whom had a focus on the South.

>>74690267
>implying I didn't already read that article
Young still supports communism in America, so wrong. And that Iggy thing is outdated--Iggy voted for Hillary once recently so now he's liberal

>You left out the Democrat presidents
Of course they did the same things, but you honestly think the rest of the world hates America because of Obama? Right after the Bush era? Are you really this stupid or are you too young to know what the global consensus was with Bush vs. Obama. No one has made America look more retarded than Republican presidents, Bush and Trump represent the best of the modern GOP

>>74690537
Shhh, that's too nuanced for him

>>74690484
>he still wasn't your average Republican
he's the result of your average Republican, he's not some zany out-of-nowhere event, this is the logical conclusion

>Pavement suck though
massive pleb opinion
>b-but GYBE are more importnant because they had like 20 members and did really deep samples and had strings!
Is this your first day listening to music?
Name some excellent GYBE-inspired post-rock that isn't complete shit, I'll wait

>Learn political history
>projecting this shamelessly after you get btfo

>>74690537
His views aren't mixed, I insist, he's a self described Libertarian. There are reasons to support Sanders instead of Trump or Hillary if you are a Libertarian, for example, if he deals with an issue you care deeply about, such as non interventionism, and you consider the fact that the senate and the house will restrict him from doing whatever he wants.
>That quote about Iggy self-identifying as a Conservative seems to have been pulled out of Liddle's arse, quite frankly.
Maybe, I wouldn't need to see if it was quoted somewhere else, but frankly, it wouldn't be surprising if he actually said that considering all the other stuff being said here that leads us to believing he was a conservative. It would be extra proof, it's not the only proof. You get me?
>he also did some work campaigning for Bill Clinton and was outspokenly against Bush
And it's a similar case to the one I'm describing for Neil above. Being against Bush for his pro-war stances does not make not right wing, and Bill Clinton is considered to be a Conservative Democrat (it's a real term, look it up).
>It's also worth noting that Reagan's platform at the time was very much focused on heartland America.
Sure, and it also had a very right wing political view regarding the economy at the time (Reaganonimcs) which is close to, and we go back to the beginning, Libertarianism.

>>74690564
>Young still supports communism in America
[citation needed], second strike

>And that Iggy thing is outdated--Iggy voted for Hillary once recently so now he's liberal
Or maybe he just didn't want Trump to win? The guy was an anomaly in the Republican party, even more for a presidential candidate who made it to the last round.

>Of course they did the same things, but you honestly think the rest of the world hates America because of Obama?
Well, they should, since they did the same things most people have to hate America.

>No one has made America look more retarded than Republican presidents, Bush and Trump represent the best of the modern GOP
Just because the global media is biased against the GOP doesn't mean the Democrats are much better in this aspect (regarding war), because they are not. Same shit. It's hilarious how only burgers think the same way as you regarding this issue.

>>74690660
>Shhh, that's too nuanced for him
I was having dinner, chill.

>he's the result of your average Republican
Not really. All the other Republican candidates were nothing like him and were a better representation of the average Republican. Trump is the result of what has been happening during these last years regarding issues like immigration and islamic terrorism (or if you want, the perception of it), just like it happened in Europe with Le Pen, Frauke, Nigel Farage, etc.

>he's not some zany out-of-nowhere event, this is the logical conclusion
Logical conclusion of the events mentioned above that arguably date back to the Arab Spring, not Republicans being Republicans.

>massive pleb opinion
I like them, they even are in my top 100 albums, but they really were not that original.

>Is this your first day listening to music?
No, in fact, I have been browsing this board for around 5 years now, if you want me to name a specific example. The guys at GYBE are original simply because their music is so far removed from almost everything else rock at the time.

>Name some excellent GYBE-inspired post-rock that isn't complete shit, I'll wait
I don't have to. GYBE are one of the most important bands of the last decade on their own.

>Learn political history
>projecting this shamelessly after you get btfo
Dude, it's simple. The term Libertarianism was born out of Socialism as a way to describe a specific brand of it that tried to stray away from the authoritarian style of Socialism, being pretty close to Anarcho Socialism and similar other ideologies. Later on, Libertarianism was used to describe Classical Liberalism taken to it's extreme, which explains it's own name. Coincidentally, it happened to be the same name as the Left Libertarian one.

>everyone ITT sounding like fags
southpark neutral masterrace

>>74681591
Midwest emo

>>74679199
>nonpolitical

The word's apolitical, you dumb faggot.