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Why was Yugoslavia the only Communist country with a rich and good music scene? Alternatively, why were other communist countries lacking in the music department?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHD_KYA1AYQ
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slav vaporwave? hell fucking YESSSSSSSSS
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>>74623664
?
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>>74623664
Get the fuck out faggot. This is good music. Tie a fucking rope around your neck you piece of piss. I sincerely hope you die for derailing an actually interesting music thread that isn't le death grips meme. I hope to wake up to the headlines tomorrow seeing some guy killed himself over a 4chan /mu/ post.
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>>74623635
Disciplina Kičme, I'm impressed. Some of the most revered bands in Ex-Yu.
https://youtu.be/OzdtVucMP84
Haustor too. One of the most consistently creative bands.
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>>74623696
>>74623684
i honestly want you dead dude. and your parents too.
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>>74623635
A couple of jazz fusion, progressive rock bands:
https://youtu.be/Z2JT2LsMY7A
https://youtu.be/japEKxiOaRg
https://youtu.be/V7dwMVQunhY
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>>74623635
>the only Communist country with a rich and good music scene
oh fuck off with your stupid exaggerations.
yugoslav music was irrelevant in comparison with the ussr
name at least one significant yugoslav composer
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>>74623635
>Alternatively, why were other communist countries lacking in the music department?
not true btw

>>74623669
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MfdQDfPT1Nc
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>>74623664
>>74623684
>>74623696
Just stop. Some of us are actually trying to have a discussion and not a shitposting rampage.
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Yugoslavia was one of the only independent communist countries. They split from Russia and weren't under Chinese influence. That was probably a factor, bringing them closer to the west.
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>>74623635
Poland had a pretty good scene as well
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>>74623737
no.
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>>74623731
dude this isliteral vaporwave 30 years early
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if youre not going to post music leave
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>>74623760
>>>/y/
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>>74623772
>>74623635

>homophobia
>>>/pol/
Nazi punks fuck off!
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>>74623783
dude what
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>>74623793
>>>/pol/
Anti-Communist OP
Homophobic and violent inciting posts ITT
Fuck you fascists.
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Collegium Musicum was a pretty GOAT-tier band from Czechoslovakia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWcjrHCMPl8
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>>74623810
>anti communist
this is bad? i thought it was called being a normal person
>>74623731
This is fucking dank.
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>>74623808
>>74623810
how many layers of irony are you guys on
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>>74623810
But Yugoslavia wasn't even Communist, it was state capitalist like all """communist""" countries
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>>74623664
>>74623684
>>74623696
>>74623737
>>74623783
>>74623808
>>74623810
>>74623831
>LARPing this hard
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Stop discussing politics and let's salvage this thread.
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>Want to discuss cool slav music
>Go back to pol
>Fucking fascists

Guys we don't have to be this way.

I'm interested in Balkan folk music. What can you guys recommend me?
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>>74623729
>name at least one significant yugoslav composer
roki vulovic
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>>74623919
>>74623869
>Stop discussing politics and let's salvage this thread.
>Homophobic and violent inciting posts ITT
...
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Well Soviet Latvia had some pretty good synthpop.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLxMDgGS4I
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxnqwjpYGJY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LnXyiy3Zbns
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxpaeNNet7g
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lbeR6Tr_guI

Also in the 90s Tornis was an independent label in Latvia. It ended in 2010. It had some good bands, altrough it was all recorded pretty lofi.

https://m.youtube.com/user/pagriide

Check this channel out if you're interested in Latvian underground.
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>>74624006
literally who
>>74624234
it still counts as ussr, you know
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>>74623664
Every fucking time.

Not everything is fucking black and white.
Stop being a control fucking freak.
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Communism doesn't allow critical thinking and self expression. That's why.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfT8LmEl_Q
Listen it. This from USSR.
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because music requires individuals to stand out
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>>74624257
>it still counts as ussr, you know

yeah, I live there.
is that a good thing or a bad thing for you? the ussr part not the part that I live there.
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>>74624824
wat?
I mean, it counted as ussr when it was ussr, lol
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>>74624695
How music like this was able to get behind soviet censorship though?
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>>74624883
>1988
huh, it had two years left
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>>74624883
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perestroika
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>>74624917
thanks
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>>74624883
It was underground and you seriously underestimate how hated were commies
also in this case in 1988 everyone knew it will collapse soon
They didnt know that there will be some moron faggots that are worshipping that retarded system even after it have fallen
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>>74623911
>make communism one of the central aspects of the OP
>WAAA! Why is everybody arguing about politics!?
Are you retarded?

>>74623869
The thread was beyond salvation as soon as OP clicked on Post.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLdGb5nyCDw

guess who wrote strangers in the night
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>>74625073
You pretend to be a commie one day and then an ancap the other what are you dude
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>>74625092
I have never been an ancap nor a commie, I'm not retarded, sorry.
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>>74625073
The thread kind of shatters the whole "communist countries were all cultural wastelands" premise that you and people like you love to repeat so often so not really.
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>>74625168
Culture of communist country almost entirely focuses on hating communism
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>>74625168
No, this thread is the actual proof of the whole thing. Just because they were cultural wastelands doesn't mean there were not some exceptions (because that's what they are, exceptions).
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>>74625230
>some exceptions
...which in turn disprove the whole original argument. Try to keep up.
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>>74625305
T. Cuck
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>>74624883
It didn't. It spread through Magnitizdat. This was sort of illegal.
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>>74625305
The original argument is that those countries were cultural wastelands (they didn't produce much art), and this is true. Unless you claim that to be a cultural wasteland you can't provide ANY art, in which case you are right but on ridiculous grounds.
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>>74625426
>>74625305
>>74625230
>>74625168
So can anyone answer the OP question on what made Yugoslavia a more special case? Since albums with risky content were issued on official state labels instead of being distributed via underground connections like in the USSR.
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>>74623635
Yugoslavia wasn't a communist country and the music that came out of it didn't really start to get interesting until the 80s(in my opinion).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGQi3ylmKbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8CCClifsFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaCnFU_8aLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07PpcCt90TY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_WQiWvhFAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_-MmE7_yrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJsaWXt9GqM

Yugoslavia was also fairly liberal and open towards the 1st world's culture and influence despite its collectivist and authoritarian tendencies.
By the 80s it became pretty normal for even underground US/UK bands to tour here, often to highly receptive audiences. IIRC Sonic Youth's first tour of Yugoslavia went down in like 1984, for example.


>>74623810
Eat shit and die, commie.
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>>74623635
i know this came out when yugoslavia had already been pretty much done for, but it's still technically yugoslavian (fr yugoslavia, not sfr yugoslavia) and it's underrated af
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx4TvTyr118
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>>74625609
>Laibach
>Disciplina Kičme
I'm glad at least these two are getting mentioned and praised here.
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>>74625584
Was Yugoslavia even communist? They weren't a superpower like the USSR. They weren't in the USSR. Maybe they had less to worry about since they weren't as big as the USSR.
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>>74624695
Can someone give me a rundown on GrOb? I'm confused as to what are their studio albums and what is not. Can someone make or link me to a splitting of their discography into main studio albums, live albums, demo albums, re-recordings, etc.?
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>>74625823
It was a socialist federal republic ruled by a communist party. Technically speaking there has never been true communist state
>pauses for howls of protest
but they were as commie as any of the commie states.
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>>74625823
yugoslavia started out as a soviet-backed communist state after wwII, but quickly distanced themselves from the warsaw pact and alligned themselves with the west while preserving their communist image. they soon adapted a nationalized free-market model, which meant that companies in yugoslavia were state-owned, but competed amongst each other and in the international market. the model also incorporated partial worker's self-management, which meant that the the companies were partially managed by the workers themselves, instead of the government or a capitalist. also, the borders were very open for a communist country, so yugoslavs traveled around and brought western influences into yugoslav culture (coca cola, western music and fashion, capitalism...)
the country fell apart due to nationalist tensions and economic struggles during the late 80's/ early 90's. before this period, the government was pretty strict and authoritarian when it came to nationalism and seperatism, while yugoslavia's economy was supported by both the east and the west through post-war financial aid programs, but when the berlin wall fell and america stopped financing govenments beneficial in the fight against the spread of communism, yugoslavia was fucked.
also i might add, even though yugoslavia was de jure a communist eastern bloc nation, it was de facto a non-aligned semi- capitalist one party socialist state that equally benefited the east and the west
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>>74625691
Unbelievable that such a band came from ex-Yu.
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UZ MARŠALA TITA, JUNAČKOGA SINA
NAS NEĆE NI PAKAO SMEST'
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HAUSTOR - TRECI SVIJET GOAT
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>>74626166
Oh, yes. Seeing Darko Rundek later tonight.
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>>74626182
Rundek is one of the rare guys that never sold out, never took sides, always made great music, unlike many of his contemporaries.
Bought his latest box-set, really nice packaging, love me some Rundek.
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>>74626282
I was at his soundcheck last week and even though they didn't play full songs, it was better than some live shows I've seen over the years. I wanted to record a good part of it, but I was unable to do so, because their violinist played octaves and I couldn't pick up my jaw from the floor. Can't wait to see them tonight.
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I'm not Yugo-nostalgic by any means, I'm not very fond of the music scene from that time (at least most of the yugoslavian records still sold on the streets nowadays, rare shit is rare for a reason), but there were at least few records that stick out imo.
Luna - Nestvarne Stvari (1984)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1bKLONW-rU
Idoli/Elektricni Orgazam/Sarlo Akrobata - Paket Aranzman (1981)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAxJzonj6_4
Laibach - Opus Dei (1987)
Mizar - st (1988)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8LXxqc3iHY
Den Za Den - st
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u07PSHe3V1U
Gori Ussi Winnetou - Addio Pola (1988)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXVvKTlB0Y
Haustor - Bolero (1985)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzdtVucMP84
Time - st (1972)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMRNDrOuKE0
I could go on and on, there are a lot of great albums made in between, probably missed a lot of great albums, but that's what I can think of for now.
>>74626349
You're gonna have a swell time, I tell ya that.
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https://www.youtube.com/user/mishapanfilov

relevant channel.

this might be my favourite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRm96SAz8zc

I think quite good communist era albums get overrated because of context.

I have a friend who likes listening to Cambodian surf rock but I think the music itself isn't particularly spectacular, more a novelty.
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>>74626672
>relevant channel
Thanks, needed something like this.
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>>74626716
if you havent explored the meme of balkan war songs there is also this channel

https://www.youtube.com/user/Kocayine/videos
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>>74626772
I have actually, funniest shit ever.
90s were not a good time for the Balkans, and I'm lucky that Macedonia had no bloodshed in that time, it was a desperate place, but not as desperate like the rest of it. It's a damn shame.
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>>74623635
The states generally supported individual composers as well as jazz and traditional pop ensembles while taking a harsh stance against bands practicing western degeneracy and rock music, forcing some of those bands to go into the deep underground where theya'd develop cult followings amongst people in the know, and eventually become popular cultural icons during the 80's Glasnost and Perestroika eras.

At least that's how it was in the Soviet Union, in the GDR and North Korea things were apparently much stricter which is why you barely hear anything from around those parts.
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>>74627107
How accurate would you say this list is? I saved it a while ago and always wondered if it was true.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpMAfJv7J2Y

saw this in a movie called "Pretty Village Pretty Flame"

fuckin banger for sure. The movie is well done if you're interested in the shitshow that is the Serbian and Croatian war
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>>74627130
Pretty accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxNOK9RnRk
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>>74627130
Sparks and AC/DC confirmed altright
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>>74627244
And Julio Iglesias too nice

Eat shit /leftypol/ we have the best music
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Tito was a fan and a friend of America and he hated Stalin, that's why. He imported a lot of American stuff to Yugoslavia, both economically and culturally
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>>74627130
>Kiss
>Nationalism, Violence
>Village People
>Violence
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Contributing some stuff from commie Hungary

https://youtu.be/CGt-rTDkMcM
https://youtu.be/r9qkhuo_G5Q
https://youtu.be/qbc2qqbdVxA
https://youtu.be/cilJMljKQLQ
https://youtu.be/h4Tv2546eR4
https://youtu.be/IR1Y6q2Au-c
https://youtu.be/6OJioczPq5A

Mostly 80s and 70s, but my favorite stuff is the folksongs that don't really fit the tone of the thread
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All these comments yet no Bijelo Dugme???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C3SKkNt828
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>>74628045
They're not really that much loved anymore, especially since Bregovic's side projects and the band's direction as a whole, not to mention plagiarism.
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How can you fags forget this one????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNgrQ1EXr0
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Any non-folk Bulgarian music? I don't know any and 50% of my ancestry is from there.
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>>74628428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9sQZLtsfp8
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>>74628490
Oh god wtf
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Aspid - Extravasation is one of the best thrash albums I've heard and it's russian
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>>74628428
https://youtu.be/ux3cugd9ONs
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>>74628428
what are you mixed with halfslav
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>>74628045
We don't approve those talentless hacks here.
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>>74623635
You want an answer? I'll give you one...
Tito
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>Being this pleb
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>>74628738
American (english if you want "heritage")
>>74628731
Neat thanks m9. Groovy.
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>>>/pol/
Anti-Communist OP
Homophobic and violent inciting posts ITT
Fuck you fascists.
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>>74632579
Homophobic and racist
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>>74632579
>>74632676
What is this meme?
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>>74632676
>>74632923
It is not a meme, you are the one memeing.

Communists leave this board

you fucking fascists are not welcome
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Proud to have Yugoslav blood
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