Woah!
It's like Duke Ellington. Except it's not fucking boring and tedious.
Who would have though making interesting music would be a better idea!!
pleb
>>74572582
You're right, Black Saint is plebeian: the jazz record.
>>74572651
hating on Ellington is just pleb. Black Saint still is a cool record, stop being a contrarian
>very limited amount of improvisation with non-existent amounts of melodic/harmonic development to make up for it
>simplified grooves that take away any of the more subtle/dynamic aspects of jazz drumming (even though many examples in jazz show you can have both)
>large arrangement that weaves in parts like a first year music school kiddie
>a "variety" of different parts that play too close together instead of being more syncopated, thus not being taken full advantage of to create dance rhythms nor actual depth/complexity
It's literally outdated (even at the time), cliche dance music with no depth. The 60s equivalent of The Epic but not as bloated. Note how this album wasn't even that highly acclaimed when it came out; Downbeat gave it a 4/5 when just about any relatively decent record can nab a 5/5 from them (so don't give "le most acclaimed" garbage either). The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady didn't get praise until later by people who hadn't listened to more than a handful of jazz records and were too casual to fully digest the more intricate improvisations in real jazz music but also couldn't handle the depth in compositions of classical music.
Also, Duke's music has far more depth than this garbage, his most well known stuff having a pair that he gave more freedom to improvise which allowed them to be more creative than anyone in Mingus' band meanwhile he also decided to work with chord progressions that were both simple and complex meanwhile Mingus just worked with progressions simpler than a lot of pop music over extended lengths of music.