Post examples of emotionally dishonest music making. I'll

>>74551874
>emotionally dishonest music making
what did he mean by this?

>>74551874
I don't even want to know what you meant.

>>74551874
>emotionally dishonest
What the fuck bruh?

I can definitely see it. Godspeed is dishonest trash. It's never real, always forced for the brainlet college kiddies to have an epiphany...

you're emotionally dishonest OP

>>74551911
Its honestly the best description I've ever heard for GYBE. Problem?

>>74551949
True, garbage band, garbage genre.

GYBE? more like GYBITCH

>>74551911
DUUDE I'M LIKE TOTALLY FEELING IT HOLY SHIT AND ITS ONLY MY FIRST WEEK AT STATE COLLEGE DUUUUDE MIND BLOWN THIS IS SO REEEEALLLL

Someone explain what it means to be emotionally dishonest and why you think GY!BE falls under that descriptor

i believe it's an arcade fire meme

This hits the nail on the head. Their music is obviously reverse engineered to tug at certain emotions. "Let's make a 14 minute song that will make you feel sad and then exultant".

Give me a fucking break. When Slint or prog rock bands before them composed long songs it was with songwriting and honesty behind them. There were slips and falls and imperfections, but that's what made them great.

Godspeed is focus group, carefully marketed meme material for people who need to be told how to think and feel. Each song practically screams a specific reaction, each one coincidentally beginning with "Dude this song is totally ____".

People who like this band have never heard a good song before. They only know what it's like to have their professors tell them what to think or have their Facebook feed shovel garbage into their head. They are herd animals, children, robots. Count me out. I prefer to have music that explores what someone is feeling without running it by a marketer to determine how profitable it will be first.

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Bump. Godspeed freaks are trying to slide this thread because it's going to wake a lot of people up to the shit this band has been shoveling for decades.

>>74552512
>my shit bait didn't get me enough (you)s REEE

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>>74551874
Holy shit you're right. Emotionally Dishonest is 100% what this band is. Never seen someone hit the nail on the head harder.

>16 posts
>10 IPs

samefag harder OP

>>74552641
Wow you're actually defending GYBE lol

>>74552663
>exactly 6 posts defending Godspeed
Yeah it makes me think that one freak who likes this band is samefagging this thread on damage control lol

>>74552512
mmm, dem butter dogs tho

I can see what the the OP means actually, "emotionally manipulative" or "melodramatic" might also fit. Very calculated to evoke a certain feeling.

I hate this band and I've hated them ever since I listening to the meme album when I was studying for a multivar test
it's nu-male trash that appeals to the reddit and memey audience

Theyre essentially music for autistics. People who don't understand what it means to really feel but think this forced stuff is a good approximation.

Its why people with life experiences hate them and prefer other music. Its just...falsr, fake, dishonest

Godspeed took Slint and thought gee lets make it formulaic, corporate and by the numbers so that we can make loser college kids think they are having an emotive journey. Its emotional pornography

>emotionally dishonest
Is this the new meme buzzword? I can already see people using it for their one line criticisms to dismiss an artist/band/genre.
>"x band is shit"
>"Why?"
>"emotionally dishonest"

>listening to emotionally dishonest garbage
You're all so predictable.

what the fuck is "emotionally dishonest' my dude

is there anyone more emotionally cringy than Eddie Vedder and his forced twitching/facial expressions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS91knuzoOA

Tori Amos. Poseur cunt. Same applies to Maynard James Keenan

>>74552907
Another good example. Godspeed took the way he manipulated teens and made music like that for subpar college students.

>>74552001
but you're not really explaining why

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>>74551874
>emotionally dishonest
what the fuck are you on about

>>74552309
that's a lot of absolute statements in one post

Do you think GYBE has like a list of notes that they use as a guide to convey certain emotions. It seems like a computer program could easily write their songs.

>>74552934
He doesn;t need to explain why when he can just samefag agreeing with himself

i discovered this band and was like "oh i get it they crescendo for 15 minutes and then play loud as fuck as a celebration and cum super hard and play like their life depended on it"

then i realized they never cum. and when they do it's limp dicked. mediocre band. crescendo core at its least satisfying

>>74553044
Wow thats a great way to deflect actual discussion of your shit band.

People are waking up. The facade is crumbling

>>74552309
>a hundred baseless assumptions
>no argument at all
This type of shitposting needs to stop

>>74553072
wow that's a great way to say a bunch of shit and never make an actual argument

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You're wife dies and you're telling me all you can muster is this? Fuck you.

ITT: people who don't understand theory (or even maybe the very concept of art itself) other than the word crescendo
I get you want to make le epic bait and btfo leftards for your buds on /r/pol, but seriously - have a thought for once in your life - you're criticizing perceived emotions in instrumental music through liner notes and samples of rambling old men

>>74553105
Too bad its more of an argument than you made huh

>>74553130
>who don't understand theory
which theory are you talking about genius?

>>74553147
He doesn;t need to make an argument, you are the one making the claim.

>>74553070
Listen to Sleep it contains at least 5 orgasms and the monologue at the beginning is actually great unlike some of the other spoken words segments which are pretentious garbage

>>74553130
>if you dont like my shit band youre a right wing racist for some reason
Hahahaha great argument wtf I love shitty music now

>>74553162
music theory dumbass

>>74552309
>Their music is obviously reverse engineered to tug at certain emotions.
like all music?

as someone who has loved F#A# Infinity for years, I was never able to get into skinny fists, and honestly this is kind of how I felt about it. It jsut came off as forced. infinity was just natural

>>74553182
Kys. This pretentiousness is a great example of OPs point tho

ITT autistic OP on his personal crusade against GY!BE, begging for attention with his faggy "muh dishonesty" criticism

>>74551874
all folk-punk
all emo

>>74553181
Half the people on this board who don't like godspeed spout some shit about how anarchism is gay therefore the music is bad
Emotional critique on a piece of music is the same level of criticism as "Burzum is Nazi so I won't listen," "Silver mt. Zion is Jewish, I won't listen," or "Stockhausen supports capitalistic imperialism via perceived spirituality in music, I won't listen."
It removes any purely aesthetic depth of a piece in exchange for a comparatively easier argument that solos out a part that's subjective, or at least moreso than others.

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I unrionically think this is dishonest yuppie music.

>>74553272
even if it isn't the album is fucking trash

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>>74551874
While we're on the topic of post-rock, this little nugget.

Pure tripe.

>>74553272
you are literally not cool enough to get what they did

>>74553272
>>74553280
fuk u

>>74553297

He said while wearing his black frame nu male glasses.

>>74553297
how about you try thinking for yourself, for once

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pretty much this album. i've only ever heard high-schoolers describe it as "epic" and "emotional."

this thread's an embarassment

>>74551874
Stop bringing shitty /tv/ memes here

>projects emotions on to an instrumental song with no inherent meaning
>"the song manipulated me!"

>>74551874
This is exactly how I feel about a lot of Blur songs.

>>74553650
>Blur

>>74553329
Never seen it that way but for me it was definitely a dud at the time.

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>>74551874

>>74553697
no

>>74551949
>People like different things than me so they're wrong :(

Literally all (C)rap

Pretty much anything driven by ego

>>74553697
It was ambitious but not really dishonest.

>>74553329
I've never enjoyed anything by The Mars Volta. Just masturbatory, self-congratulating prog wankery.

>>74551874
Yeah like seriously fuck godspeed. Literally kys if you've ever listened to this even once. Such poopsic

IT'S HAPPENING. Half of the /mu/tant are facing the true; emotionally dishonest is a 10/10 definition: create music to craft emotions instead of letting emotions create music.
The most of the times it's an involuntary process, the artist doesn't enter the recording room with the intention of crafting emotionally dishonest muic, but he will eventually stretch at it. The reasons can be many. One over all: lack of inspiration.
In this case, with a lack of inspiration, there won't be any research. The artists will be just copying themselves, basically. They'll know what they can do and they will, subliminally, just do it. Copy and paste. No suffering; again, no reseach.

>Antlers, Hospice
(here's no lack of inspiration, is just trying to show off to much the emotions, since there's no real suffering under all the arrangements and the so so so sad melodies and the plastic lyrics. The opposite of this is, for example, pink moon by drake, which doesn't even need to have not meaningless lyrics or anything else than a guitar in order to broadcast something really dep)

>>74555092
>dep

>>74555092

Your command of grammar is awful.

Probably a lot of these people. Don't be a hero, they only disappoint.

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>>74555092
>thread derailed

Fuck godspeed. Buncha shit.

>>74553288
See this is the opposite of Godspeed for me, it feels like a natural and organic record

I don't get this "emotionally dishonest" thing. Lots of music is written or arranged in a certain way to evoke certain emotions from the listener, it doesn't necessarily have to reflect how the the artist actually feels, although that certainly does help. It's only if the music is cloying or forced that it could be considered dishonest. (I've never really listened to G!YBE though so that could be the case afaik)

>>74556180
It definitely is. GYBE is like being force fed big Styrofoam letters that say SAD.

>>74556233
Kys for spamming this. Bet you like GYBE because of how dishonest and forced your posting is.

>>74553394
This lmao. Shitty memes desu.

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>>74556250
I like GYBE because it sounds good to me. It actually sounds the opposite of dishonest to me.

No one is forcing me to post anything btw.

>86 posts
>47 posters
did efrim fuck your bitch or something?

>>74553234
Really? I'd consider AJJ to be the among emotionally honest music I've ever heard.

>>74553200
>knowing music theory on a music board is pretentious
epic simbly epic

>>74551874
Almost everything punk and hip-hop.

There is no significant difference between GYBE and "crescendocore" like Explosions In The Sky.

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This is what happens when you let niggers into your board, /mu/.

>>74557713
At least Explosions in the Sky has an ethos, as shitty as it may be. GYBE pretends to so much more than the base emotional manipulation that is.

>>74556666
Nice quads. Theyre emotionally honest, their emotions are just fuckin gay

>>74558422
kek

>>74552309
>the music is engineered to tug at certain emotions

Man what the fucking shit are you talking about?

>I don't like the music for trying to make me feel
Fuck off you pretentious cock.

>>74558629
Yawn. No one is interested in your half assed defense of a shitty band that is long past its expiration date.

>>74553119
shit bait