What makes something "pretentious"? How thin is the

when the artist unironically thinks he is doing something artistic and with a lot of meaning, but comes out as forced, stupid, pointless, etc.

Did you ever hear Tales from Topographic Oceans? The songs are great by themselves, but the amount of information they pack in one album in together is just too tiresome. I wouldn't call it pretentious, however. It was just too ambitious: making four 20 minute songs about the fucking meaning of life.

If you want to be honest, even the most "what the fuck are you doing" moments in prog rock, like traveling the world for a certain organ sound, aren't pretentious. The guys are fucking great and they know it.

Maybe pretentionism is doing the same attitudes when "not deserving it"

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How do I stop being easily impressed by things often labeled pretentious?

>>74505885
this, however most people misuse it a lot

musically: just a bunch of aimless wankery going nowhere
lyrically: acting like there's some deep subversive hidden meaning, preachy political lyrics, using verbose vocabulary for the sake of it

Say that something is pretentious doesn't make a sense at all to begin with it.
No one but the artist knows what they were aim for. And if they get it or not.

>>74505885
Hopsin?

Listen to the Soft Bulletin by the Flaming Lips

the Flaming Lips' cover album of Sgt. Pepper's

that's the difference between not pretentious and pretentious

>>74509765
wtf i meant to say "then listen to the Flaming Lips' cover album of Sgt. Pepper's"

>>74507514
TftTO is the literal meaning of pretentious

>>74505877
>album cover with low contrast and or pastel colors, usually with a photo of a female appearing
>long intro
>extended breakdown with little to no percussion
>rap with any singing
>band members hardly move around on stage
>any use of falsetto, ironic or unironic
>black band member dresses like he's a white hipster
>has "post" in the genre name

>>74505877
>What makes something "pretentious"?
It's the opposite of down to earth. It's when something or something carries itself with an air of importance (deserved or undeserved) combined with a lack of humility.