program vs. absolute?
Do you prefer your music to have an extra-musical narrative, like Strauss' Don Quixote tries to tell the story of Quixote through music, or do you prefer the music's narrative to be confined to the musical alone, music that is not explicitly "about" anything, like Beethoven's 9th?
I like my music to have a narrative and I don't think the music itself can ever be higher than the narrative because we as humans always ascribe a narrative to the music
>>74496521
I think it can work in either format but the music still has to come first. There's a few albums (more so album than classical pieces) that use storytelling as a crutch for poor song-writing. If I had to pick which one I preferred though, it'd be absolute music, or abstract or whatever. The feeling to convey emotion through music alone (without singing or lyrics) is pretty impressive, to me anyway
>>74496558
In either format I agree, but this is where I depart from the fags who think you can analyse music in some exclusively objective manner. There's simply no such thing as 'letting music speak for itself' and there's no reason why there should be, as the music is always a meaning that we ascribe to the music. Wittgenstein etc etc
I think that emotion that's conveyed always comes with a narrative
Music has incredible power in communicating tone and atmosphere. Typically I enjoy music with a narrative, but not an overt one. The music should communicate whatever tale it wants through its sound, so that my mind can interpret the rest as it desires. Those are the albums I have the most fun with.
Basing music off of prewritten material, while not impossible, doesnt turn out so well. Its hard to do a great adaptation between any medium, let alone the massive information loss from say novel to album.
>>74496620
I don't think avoiding an explicit narrative or concept means that the music ever really stands on its own, and I doubt anyone would really seriously propose that. It's always interpreted through context and the listener's prior knowledge and experiences.
What do Lovecraft's Elder Gods/ Ancient Ones even do for fun? What music do they listen to?
Are they even gods in the traditional sense?