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Overall effect on the music scene aside, who was more influential

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Overall effect on the music scene aside, who was more influential for actually GOOD music?
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The Beatles any way you put it. Denying that is pretty dumb.
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>>74392715
2nd
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I think the velvets made more interesting and more enjoyable music
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the beatles are for high school faggots who are pretentious about smoking weed and that one time they dropped fake acid and looked through their normie dad's records from the 70s
the velvets are for art freaks who rail speed and fuck pre op trannies

so both are shit but i prefer the velvets
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>>74392919
i would fuck pre op trannies i agree awesome !
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The Beatles are awesome with the words literal meaning. They made music that was unthinkable and almost crazy as a pop band at their time.
The Velvet Underground are so intentionally bad and formally distorted that they are regarded good like the famous album Trout Mask Replica. They had a great understanding of music and tried things that worked ideally but not much in practice.
My vote goes for the Fab 4.
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Velvet Underground without a doubt, but Frank Zappa is above those two.
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>>74392673
I think the beat les are more consistent but I don't love any of their songs as much as i love some of VU's.
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