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>>74343467
>best MA album
>not Covenant

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S L U D G E

W A V E

I S

L A W

>>74343503
Gateways is up there for a reason, anon.

>>74343467

Best MA albums

C > B > A > D > G > F > H > I

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In remembrance of $l4mz

>>74343506
https://youtu.be/TmyeTYhbvD4?t=20m27s

>>74343556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71uNeZPvZUI

Have some trve Rvssian ph4t $l4mz.

Reminder that glam is the most non nu-male genre in metal

Why? Because it died in the early 90s. Back then there were no liberal nu-male political correct idiots, so they didn't contaminate it like they did with black, death and thrash. I mean there are vegan and feminist black and death bands out there. You can't make this shit up

>but glam is not metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZZ3EXO2_Vo

This shit is better for headbanging that most of your nu-male crap you listen

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>album has two or more songs with the same name

>>74343467
>>74343503
>>74343534
jesus christ this is garbage taste
A>B>C>everything else

>>74343556
https://youtu.be/vJuIlhqlOLs

>>74343588
talk about garbage

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>>74343583

>>74343588
objectively false

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Black Metal:
>M8?8T? [M8L8TH]: Russian/Ukrainian Black Metal with a distinct folksy RAC influence. Their latest album has a wonderful blend of clean and harsh vocals.
>Nachtgeblüt: Argentinian Black Metal/Neoclassical crossover project of Eviigne. Previous albums had some classical pieces metallicized, but "Dying Echos of a Past Forlorn" highlights Eviigne's talents as a musician.
>Campo de Mayo: Another project of Eviigne. The music here is much harsher and more direct with fiercely anti-communist lyrics and songs glorifying the regime of Jorge Rafael Videla, infamous for putting communist dissidents on death flights.
>Kristallnacht: Their entire discography on one album. Raw French Black Metal with plenty of harsh tremolo picked lines. Pretty standard.
>Dub Buk: Highly folksy Ukrainian Black Metal with foot-stomping riffs, gang shouts and flutes.
>Grand Belial's Key: A US NS Black Metal classic. Not only one of the most intentionally hilarious Black Metal bands, but also one of the most intentionally hilarious NS Black Metal bands. Anti-Judeo-Christian lyrics with plenty of potshots at Jews and Jesus.
>Fanisk: Another US NS Black Metal classic. Epic keyboard-driven passages and walls of tremolo craft a fantastic atmosphere transporting you to somewhere beyond space and time.
>Absurd: All their classic tunes rerecorded for a new generation. Those who found their earlier work childish, raw and amateurish will appreciate the dedication from the new band to polish the old tunes into something quite powerful.
>Der Stürmer: Harsh Greek NS Black Metal with members active in Golden Dawn. Plenty of fast, furious, tremolo-picked power chords and feral shouts.
>Veles: Polish NS Black Metal classic.
>Graveland: Another Polish NS Black Metal classic. Slow, epic passages crafting an atmosphere of Viking warriors charging into battle with lyrics influenced by Ron McVan

>Morbid Angel
>ever being good
Altars was their best and it's still bland overall.

Black Metal (cont):
>Te??o?op? [Temnozor]: Russian Folk/Black Metal crossover. Pagan lyrics and epic passages with clean and harsh vocals.
>Pantheon: USNSBM concept album. Much of their discography sucks, but they struck gold once with this concept album.
>Spear of Longinus: Australian NS Black Metal with a distinct old school influence. Hellhammer and Celtic Frost fans will enjoy this. Loads of lyrics of Nazi mysticism and Hinduism.
>Genocide: Thrashy Chilean Black Metal.
>Sombre Chemin: French Black Metal with an RAC undercurrent. Imagine early Absurd with Burzum-like atmosphere.
>Totenburg: Triumphant, but fierce German Black Metal that packs quite a punch. Like later Absurd with more aggression and thrashiness.
>Peste Noire: National Anarchist Black Metal with a very faint folksy influence. Plenty of feral vocals and blast beats with tremolo picked lines from hell.
>Aryan Blood: German Black Metal influenced by old school Heavy Metal. Worth it for "To Build an Empire" alone.
>Mjölnir: Unique German Black Metal with melodic and symphonic influences that craft a distinct atmosphere. Think old Lucifugum mixed in with Bathory, Enslaved, and Nokturnal Mortum.
>Naastrand: When traditional French folk songs discover Black Metal. Very unique and quite powerful.
>Wolfnacht: "Night of the Werewolf" is the best thing they've done. Everything else is rather mediocre Darkthrone worship, but the debut has some Absurd influences.
>Thunderbolt: The Polish lovechild of Emperor and Dissection. The atmospheric interludes are implemented nicely, rather than feeling superfluous. In a word, tasteful.
>Bannerwar: Greek Black Metal with bright tone elevated by a of the guitar melodies, a symphonic regalia of the pianos and keyboards, and a bloodied rasp of its front man. Energetic anthems bearing a semblance to Emperor's In the Nightside Eclipse, though not strikingly so. Don't expect much RAC influences. Even their cover of Blue Eyed Devil's "Eternal Fight" sounds grim

74343638
>being this contrarian
Fuck you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkhZpMo2-0I&spfreload=10

Heavy Metal:
>RaHoWa: A sore subject, but George Burdi sure tried his damndest to channel Peter Steele. This album is pure Type O Negative worship with some awesome songs and terrible songs. The best are "Man Against Time," "Hall of the Heroes," "In the Fires of 1945," "The Last Battalion" and "God Is Dead". The cover of "The Snow Fell" is great, too.
>Honor: Epic Viking Metal with plenty of charging riffs and passages similar to Manowar and Graveland. The English version is superior to the Polish version, so track that one down. For some reason, the Polish mastering is horrible.
>Fortress: Incredible Heavy Metal from down under. NWOBHM-influenced Metal with an epic heavy ballad "Southern Birth, Northern Soul"
>Warlord: NWOBHM-influenced Metal from Skrewdriver guitarist Steve "Stigger" Calladine. Anti-Islamic "Jihad Joe" will make you crack a smile and "The South Will Rise Again" will make you unfurl your Rebel Flag.
>Excalibur: Czech Metal legends. Later albums go into Death Metal territory, but the debut has epic Metallica-influenced riffs and plenty of headbanging sections in spite of the awkward English.
>Buldok: Similar to Excalibur, but much more influenced by Dokken and Manowar, making the album sound surprisingly American. The Czech songs are better, but "Mission Spandau" has this saxophone section that always makes me smile.
>Spirit of 88: Heavy/Groove Metal solo project of a German musician. Catchy riffs in spite of the awkward vocals.
>Bomber: German Motörhead-influenced Heavy Metal from drummer/vocalist Kalle. Plenty of catchy riffs and feral vocals.
>Estirpe Imperial: Spanish Metal legends with Iron Maiden-esque riffs and patriotic lyrics.
>Kontingent 88: French Heavy Metal/Hard Rock with thoughtful lyrics and epic riffs. Easily my favorite out of all these.

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dark trap has gotten pretty popular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqtobIpZt68
can get pretty heavy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh2qamngFoM
uses harsh vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPGxYXWhCzM
is made by people who legitimatly like heavy music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=319xuyt3PdQ
managed to influence poppier normier shit with it's distorted sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Prfg3vyZkA
uses the metal aestethic
[pic rel]
has the same shock value than metal has in it's beginnings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg5dOEvjEYU
and has solid roots in old school stuff so you know it's not a passing trend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXoPOmXE8k4
whay are we waiting for to put guitars in that shit and make metal popular again?

>inb4 the lyrics suck
what's your favorite grindcore lyric?

>>74343506
GLAM OR BAM

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*shit riffs on you*

Thrash Metal:
>The Raunchous Brothers: When The Mentors discovered Teutonic Thrash. "Faggot Bolshevik" alone is quite a statement.
>Mudoven: if the Cro-Mags were racist, they'd be Mudoven. Solo-project of Vaginal Jesus guitarist Jim Crow, a purported veteran in Massachusetts hardcore underground. "Back to Africa" and "Green God" are classics.
>Bound For Glory: American RAC legends who fully underwent metalmorphosis on "The Fight Goes On." Every album after is just as great, but the songs here rule. "We've Got Your Number," "Doctor Marten Dental Plan," "Our Voice Is Stronger" and "Welcome" are testaments to the band's fury.
>Death's Head: Australian Thrash Metal with a distinct Hardcore influence. Perfect for moshing.
>Durandal: Slayer fans rejoice! French Thrash Metal with riffs distinctly influenced by Slayer and other American Thrash legends. The whole album is the best France has to offer.
>Frakass: The French Nationalist version of The Exploited. Moshable riffs and a great vocalist to boot.
>Ultimatum: A lesser version of Frakass. Riffs are still good, though.
>In Tyrannos: Slayer-influenced Metal project of German legend Daniel "Gigi" Giese. Loads of lyrics about the Freemasons, WWI, the Jews, 9/11 and other great topics abound.
>Iron Youth: Greek Thrash Metal. Everything else they produced is mediocre, but at least they got it right here.
>Squadron: RAC legends go Thrash here. Plenty of Hardcore-influenced riffage, but "Death Before Dishonour" will make you want to mount your horse and charge straight into battle.
>?oppo??? Me?a??a [Korrozia Metalla]: Vulgar Russian Thrash legends. This album is when the band started to let it slip they aren't exactly tolerant. "K.K.K" gives some obvious hints, and the anti-Arab song from the following album would solidify their political stance.
>?o?o?pa? [Kolovrat]: Even more explicit racist Russian Thrash. The playing here is very tight and the music has great production values to boot.

>>74343679
TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW

Death Metal:
>Arghoslent: American Death Metal with thrashy heavy riffs similar to those of Manilla Road. Loads of lyrics about slavery, conquest and, of course, the Holocaust.
>Berserkr: American Death'n'Roll/Groove Metal with incredible production values. Fans of Entombed, '90s Sepultura and Pantera will enjoy this.
>Vaginal Jesus: Hilarious Grindcore with a Seth Putnam connection; hilarious lyrics and nasty riffs abound.

>>74343582
Glam is pop with metal guitars. You could as well listen to Backstreet Boys and call them alpha.

>>74343679
Trap rap + guitars wouldn't work
Its logical progression would be even more distorted beats with screams over it, to the point where it's almost close to blackened noise but without instruments

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Only death is real

What is the closest thing to DM with folk melody?

>>74343827
slave spirituals+ metal guitars worked
gregorian chants+ metal guitars worked
I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work with trap

I do agree with you for the logical progression if things stay as they are now

>>74343863
Eluveitie

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>>74343830
Was this planned from the beginning

AOTY confrimed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Jh36OMXFE

Only AOR is trve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpxsMyoXUZQ

>>74343610
Crimson is one 40 minute long song

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>>74343882
YA JUST GAWT

>>74343905
AOR is to prog rock what djent is to prog metal

>>74343906
Crimson, Winter's Gate and other 1 track albums are split on digital versions

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>>74343910
They sure grow up fast

>>74343927
Not a good Analogy since there is some good AOR and but no Good Djent

>>74343872
Well this is more like celtic metal with DM vocals but thanks anyway
Do you perhaps know anything with guitars only? Implementing fast technical picking and rhythm changes with folk melody?

>>74343927
AOR is just 80s prog rock but djent is prog metal + extremecuck metal (bad combination)

>>74343963
Skyclad but they're more of a folky thrash metal band.

>>74343963
There's a lot of folk influenced black metal but I'm not sure about death metal apart from some cheesy melodeath

Post nu-male repellents now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ximWeur_cs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqUx84-ljPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dl6CLWLMzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeSuPB_5wr4

>glamcucks LARPing as alphas
Stop

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>>74344054
>>glamcucks LARPing as alphas
>LARPing?

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>>74344054
stay cucked bro

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>>74344054
>>>rebbit

>>74344071
>>74344098
>>74344114
t. closet homos

>>74344136
t. out a proud brown hatter

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>>74344136
pathetic

>thinking any Morbid Angel album other than Altars Of Madness is their best
>being this pussy that their other, less intense albums that are also not as jam packed with riffs are considered better to you
Lmao, this board just lost all its credibility when it comes to metal.
>>74343638
>Altars
>Bland
ADHD kiddo detected. The album beautifully fits in more riffs than really any metal that isn't stuff like Encenathrakh (that has to do a "no repeat" gimmick to achieve that) or stuff like Reign In Blood (which greatly simplifies its riffs to achieve that).

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>>74344035

>>74344196
Why are all the girls' faces so horrific holy shit.

>>74344209
that album has the song "nationalsocialistic call", right? it's catchy as fuck

>>74343713
'BOUT A MOTHERFUCKER OUT THE BOTTOM

>>74344232
Yup. It's overall a pretty catchy album.

WHITE BOYS
WHITE GIRLS
WHITE POWER OVER WORLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta0jB5BcP5E
>>74344218
t. kissless virgin

>>74344205
just look at all of that fucking pussyfooting around any actual points

>>74343696
dark angel and morbid saint are better

>>74343830
Is this some sort of hidden message
>black king
>red pawn
Needs a white knight

>>74344277
Not really. Anyone can listen to Morbid Angel to hear what I claimed. Altars is far more technically proficient of their records which is used to give it more intensity and it's able to structurally fit more riffs than all their other records. These are easy to observe qualities.

>>74343830
BLACKED

>>74344275
Nah, people that aren't losers can actually get good looking girls, believe it or not.

>>74344218
they're aren't printed on a pillow like the girls you're used to
you can't just iron out the creases after they've been in the wash

>>74343679
https://youtu.be/WYTc9uCfVwc
aw hell yeah

>>74344387
as long the girl is white, i don't see the problem if she's ugly or not

White Power 14/88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn8PAnzrCcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuFAMAYjgq8

>>74344412
The difference between your statement and mine, is that mine has direct evidence in the form of that picture. Yours is just part of the fantasy world you LARP in.
>>74344424
One of the better things about white girls is literally that their faces are nowhere near as busted looking than non-white girls. Those girls (especially the one to the left of him ew) can't even do that right. Shits from some horror movie or somebody defaced them with acid or something.

>>74344515
t. 30yo virgin wizard

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Was this the peak of Glam metal?

>listening to theater of salvation by edguy
>last 1:30 of last track

what the FUCK are we getting trolled what the HELL were they thinking

>>74344071
>>74344098
>>74344196
Fucking women is alpha. Listening to pretty men singing about it is beta as fuck.

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>>74344275
this trash sounds like an edgy 13 year old growling over sonic adventure music

>>74344275
unironiaclly like this

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Time to fuck nu-males in the ass

>>74344649
As usual, strangely appropriate
You glam/Manowar fags have your own idea of "alpha"

>>74344418
I didn't know this one, thanks anon
very metal-like

https://youtu.be/H2OjbS_GnS4
FUCKING SLAYER

ANGERY

>>74344583
t. I am okay fucking girls with chimp faces

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>Hey baby, wanna fuck?
what do you do?

Is it me or the bleeding is actually more similar to butchered at birth than tomb of the mutilated? Apart from the audible bass

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>>74344719
Hot summer trend 2017

RAPE THEIR WOMEN AS THEY CRY
UAHAHAHAHA

>>74344774
Wait why is Slayer suddenly a trend again? Besides I thought everybody was sucking off Metallica since they became relevant again with the new album. (No diss, I liked it myself, just that people are wearing their shirts and shit yet again because of it)

>>74344820
only the t-shirts became mainstream popular
entry level metal is becoming popular again in the "underground"
see:
>>74343679

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>>74344719
HEY YOU
YEAH YOU BODYGUARD
STOP DOING YOUR JOB

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>>74344719
Call me when they perform something outta Show no Mercy
>tfw the Minotuour on the cover is your headcanon band mascot

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>>74344820
Haven't you heard? late '80s thrash and crossover are the hot trend of this summer, every girl and every crossdressing glam fag knows it.
Here's a cool look for you:
—trve cvlt $20,000 designer leather jacket
—bright yellow $200 true punk cap
—inbred imbecile lip bite (free)

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Why doesnt he like death metal?

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>>74344890
>minotaur
>goat head

>>74344917
I keep forgetting that Minotuours have bull heads
Oops

>>74344914
"It's paganism mom you don't understand ugh"

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>>74344914
'cos it's trendy

>>74344932
Minotaur. And it's in the goddamned name. The bull of Minos.

Goddamn read a book

>>74338965
Eyeliner is not facepaint, anon

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>>74344958
Didn't you know that metal is for brainlets
If your IQ is above 90 you're a poser

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>>74344932
I believe it's called Baphomet. But also, devil is frequently depicted as having head of a goat in Christian art.
t. Wikipedia

Sodom>>>>>>>>Slayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGi3IEX3IMM

>>74345043
>This fucking kid again
I recognize your posts faggot. I like both bands and your posts are pathetic. You are worse than babies who fight about Metallica vs Megadeth

is there a slam chart? or failing that at least a brutal death one

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Is this motherfucker trying to be George Bataille?

>>74345107
megadeth>metallica

>>74345043
Agent Orange is the most overrated Sodom album
In fact, their 80s/90s stuff isnt even that great
They actually become decent with Code Red and every album after is mad solid

>>74345145
Gud 4 u

>>74345145
this

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>>74345043
>Sodom

>>74344719
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEEEEEEEEER

>>74345145

>>74344890
Why do people talk about Show No Mercy so much? It was good but Hell Awaits is much better

>>74345144
>insulting Bataille in such a crass manner
That looks like HHH, not Mikko Aspa, so, no

>>74345454
To pose as "an oldfag who thinks only 1st wave anything was trve"

>>74345147
Now THAT'S what I call contrarian, bro
>>74345454
muuh kvlt

GLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>74345454
Show no mercy is the only good slayer's album

>>74345472
>>74345476
Even by black metal standards Hell Awaits is better

>>74344719
reeeee

>>74345454
Because internet faggots love teleological revisionism

>>74345493
Their first five albums are excellent and no one can say they're not.

>>74345497
hell awaits is too slow

>>74345497
We're agreeing with you, dude (except on the bit where you're implying Slayer ever were black metal)

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OTHER BANDS PLAY

>>74345454
best slayer riffs, best slayer compositions, not quite yet at their pinnacle of technical performance (that was hell awaits), but it's clearly the most cohesive and consistent work from a songwriting perspective.

>>74345520
they aren't, only show no mercy's good

Overkill is probably the only good american thrash band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG5MLkAF3qM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu2gsCHFkGI

>>74345144
no, it's all psuedo-hegelianism

i found a good 80s rare spanish band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlvuX78sfh0

>>74345145
good post

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>>74345043
>Anal Orange

well lads?

https://www.freemetalday.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKH1pPxUvBQ

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>>74346172
>Bum buggery

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>>74346172
>more like ARSE-nic

DIE YOUNG!
DIE YOUNG YOUNG YOUNG YOUNG
DIE YOUNG

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Is this new age

>>74346432
No, it's post-industrial dark baroque/chamber ambient

>>74345454
WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
Hell awaits is fantastic but YOU CANNOT FIGHT THE TORMENTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THERE'S NO ONE LIKE YOU
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NIGHTS WITH YOU
I IMAGINE THE THINGS WE'LL DO
I JUST WANNA BE LOVED BY YOU

Rec me some good funk metal

>>74346502
>good
>funk metal
Pick 1

>>74346502
Extreme, Bang Tango, Ugly Kid Joe

Why isn't Hetfield in fucking prison that sick fucking bastard I hate him

Why is Cuckzzy still alive? I fucking hate him

Why hasn't Rob Halford died of AIDS? Fucking degenerate bastard I fucking hate him

>>74346502
Ignorance

>>74346579
Only the good die young
Only evil stay to live forever

>>74345527
MANOWAR GAY!

>>74346579
the man cannot be killed his doctors have confirmed this

>>74344502
check out Nordic Thunder's Born to Hate
88

I hope Fenriz gets killed I hate fucking gate him

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fucking varg i hope i mate him

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post extraterrestrial bands

>>74346467
more like post-good stage of Ulver

im dead serious i actually want james to die tho

>>74346743
That's War Of The Roses

New Artificial Brain is aoty confirmed

>>74346551
Extreme is too good. Cant eait for the new album.

>>74346705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eG1rubF9Dg

>>74346816
legitimately bad

>>74346743
would prefer if lars died and mustaine played a really bad drum cover of One at the funeral

>>74346891
Why

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>>74345036
Yes it is Baphomet, the torch on the forehead gives it away.
Honestly though the Slayer version looks like something you'd see in Doom

>>74346488
READY FOR BATTLE
AWAITING THE FINAL
COMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

>>74346929
it's legitimatly a meme

Yngwie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TgCgf1OFr8

>>74346963
Elaborate

>>74344890
>>74345036
Baph is an amalgamation of most idols that were around at the time of Christianity's settled formation (adoption by rome).
It's the negative pulling force to whatever the Catholic church demands. They're the "rock" of the church for that reason.

It's utterly blind to macrocosmic systems.

>>74347016
some guy posted it along with the words "post legitimatly laughable albums"
so i posted it again with "post legitimatly good albums"
another guy came along and posted "post legitimatly average albums"
thus the meme began, with people calling it legitimatly whatever
I'm kinda proud of how long it has lasted (the two last "legitimatly" comments aren't me)
I still haven't listened to the album

>it's a white power folk metal episode
this is why everyone hates /metal/

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>>74343467
Old Megadeth is the best metal band Imao

NS Glam!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liiQuvYx73M

>>74347086
listento it anon it's gud

>>74347094
There's not enough exploration of middle eastern motives to be honest.

Something Kyuss did well musically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtnSF_nVhiM&list=PLa3W85_wjXXKi5U0mvbWNFSDn-1R9WN56
A lot of grunge/ ear;y nu metal (korn) did it well too.

>>74346935
>>74347043
Speaking of which, I always thought it came from the bible. I thought it was there that Beelzebub was imagined as having a goat head. Even in the old testament.
Is it a coincidence that people worshipped goat-headed idols at the time?

>>74347165
is it legitimatly good?
but idk I feel like the meme would alter my perception

what does /metal/ think of malice mizer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znSN1qwEXBg

>>74347209
Mate the old testament god seems to be called "baal".

Satan or the equivalent. How's that for irony.

>>74347250
Burn it with fire.

>>74347250
Seriously here's the antidote for that chromey crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4qIK5PiSyk

PROGE AOTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QJlFdFquiY

>>74346978
hes such a goofball

any trad doom man in
need some recs

>>74347465
>Proge album
>No shota on the cover

>>74347969
Isole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrff57UJREE

real glam hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-g0DsfGfNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXSdt79gOJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqeoI4klLE

>>74347269
Ba'al, refered in the Bible in the plural, is used as a generic name for all non-Israelite deities, especially the ones worshipped by canaanites and phillistines. It's not described in detail, but one point they make is that they were offered meat that would rot and its sanctuaries would usually be swarmed by flies.

Not sure where you got the "old testament god was named baal" thing.

>>74347209
Beelzebub, like Ba'al, is a generic name that comes from phillistine tradition. The "satan" as proposed by christians is not an actual figure in the old testament. There are several forces of evil but none of them are pointed out as the One Prince of Evil.
>Is it a coincidence that people worshipped goat-headed idols at the time?
Goats were plentiful and used as sacrifice, so that's probably where the connection comes from

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>>74347140
who the fuck do you think you are dragging me back to high school like that

>>74343506
>sludgewave
It's just shitty slowed down deathcore. Stop making up stupid names.

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>>74348360
dont you recognize me anon?

>>74348147
OK. Looks like the whole Baphomet and Satan = goat thing is not as ancient as I thought.

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"Look, ma, I changed genres again!"

>>74348759
Which band has suddenly changed genres more, Ulver or Paradise Lost

>>74343467
FOLK METAL IS FOR FAGGOTS

DOOM METAL ALL THE WAY BABY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsDz5qphC3c&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIw7oeZKpZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eUVubC7ojM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0d88We9eXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV09__dgsH0

>>74348787
Ulver, hands down

>>74348787
I don't know, but I've been pranked for the last time by these bros

>>74348787
Suicide Silence

>>74343467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrZt45PEbSk [Embed][Embed]

DAILY REMINDER THAT IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE H-MASTER THEN YOU ARE A FALSE!

>>74348147
Actually it's mixed up.
Sometimes it's baal. Other times it's the opposite.

So who knows.

>>74348759
>hurr one should aspire to never ever change bc changing is dummmm
It's a 10/10 album, too

>>74343582
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZZ3EXO2_Vo [Embed]
>budget mustaine

so i know most people dislike meme theater but portnoy's been busy as fuck jumping from "supergroup" to group, and his latest is probably the biggest one yet
>bumblefoot
>billy sheehan
>derek sherinian
>jeff scott soto
honestly kinda interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPN2DttzlZQ

>>74343679
>what's your favorite grindcore lyric?
I don't know, but it's probably better than
>100 on my wrist
>80 on my wrist
>100 on my wrist
>80 on my wrist
>100 on my wrist
>80 on my wrist
>100 on my wrist
>80 on my wrist

>>74348899
>Sometimes it's baal. Other times it's the opposite.
What?

>>74343601
>https://youtu.be/vJuIlhqlOLs
Sounds like neoandertals...

>>74348912
>muh strawman

>>74348949
>Making fun of a band solely because they changed styles.

Yeah, I didn't even need a strawman.

>>74348928
p. good hard rock

>>74348899
why dont you just summon him and ask?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n9f4gd-dmk

>>74348932
lil pump is legitimatly retarded tho
and he isn't even a part of the dark trap wave I talked, it's just that his producer got influenced by this wave
he just writes the lyrics and tries to rap them, that's like only 20% of the finished product

>>74343679
My impression of this stuff is that it's for people who want to wear the clothes but don't actually listen to the music.

>>74348972
They changed not just "something". They changed literally everything, their whole genre. Several times, too. And still kept the same name. At least change the name ffs.

>>74348978
snippets sound pretty good, sherinian has a very unique vibe as a keyboardist, he's more fun to listen to than guys like ruddess. what kinda irks me is that portnoy did almost this exact same lineup minus the singer and ron thal and plus tony macalpine, who also played with sherinian in planet x. dude had cancer and a bunch of semi big names like zakk wylde did a benefit for him, dunno how it turned out.

>>74343871
None of those things work they are all fucking stupid things meant to be
>LE QUIRKY LE INTREDASTING METAL STYLES
with no real substance.

>>74349031
>They changed literally everything, their whole genre. Several times, too.
I know. I fail to see this as something objectionable, especially since pretty much everything they've done ranges from pretty good to 10/10
>At least change the name ffs.
Why? Why is this an issue to you?

>>74349014
yeah I get this vibe from the audience
the artists seem pretty genuine tho, a lot of them have been in metal/punk bands and namedrop obscure shit in interviews

>>74348787
>Ulver
went from folk black metal to folk to avant-garde metal to electronic to experimental rock to alternative rock to ambient to modern classical to synthpop

>Paradise Lost
went from death doom to goth metal to goth rock to synthpop and alternative rock and then back to metal until they started making death doom again

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>>74349008
also

>>74348928
>vocals
No thanks

>>74349080
I can understand that but it's also worth considering that just because you namedrop obscure stuff doesn't mean you care beyond aesthetic reasons. (not that they do or don't)

Honestly it all just seems like capitalizing on an image to me but I could be wrong. I am not really going out of my way to listen to this stuff.

Not to beat dead horses but I feel like DG is a bit more genuine with the aggressive/angry rap thing. I would prefer more artists take after that than just name dropping old thrash, death and bm bands.

>>74349069
That's a pretty biased answer. I hope I don't need to tell you that it's a usual practice to change the name when switching genres. First, it's less simply confusing. Second, there's a sound behind every bands' name. Yeah, things do change, but not by THAT much.
Imagine what would happen if everyone started jumping genres. Metallica went to play trip-hop. Immortal would dabble into field recordings. Slayer would go into glam folk. Wow, how convenient, how much sense it makes to everyone. I'm so sure the fans would welcome the change and appreciate the "tenouttaten" albums they put out.

>>74349195
i mean out of all the guys he's had sing for his bands, he's not the worst, but he's no richie kotzen or russell allen

>>74349045
not really
obviously people are overhyping those two albums saying it's the only good thing to come out of metal and shit (/mu/'s usual stupidity)
but to me they go together pretty well. Especially litourgiya, since atmoshit was always about oppresive atmospheres and darkness, wich you can really feel while going into an orthodox church. Z&A has a less changeable formula, wich is why he only put like 3 nigger bm songs on his albums, and the rest his filler. Still, litourgiya is a decently good bm album and Z&A is a catchy "metal" album
things like liturgy feel much more like quirky "cram as many stuff into an album without trying to make it sound good"

>>74349369
>it's a usual practice to change the name when switching genres
a) I'd like to see some examples, especially examples of people agreeing with you, because it sounds like an ad hoc proposition
b) nevermind because it doesn't matter: A band can do whatever the fuck they want with their name, "confusion" be damned.
>Imagine what would happen if everyone started jumping genres
It happens all the time, but since the experiments are usually huge failures, they either go unnoticed and fade into obscurity or revert to what they know people want to hear.
>how convenient
a) again, why should a band, especially one that's far from a household name that's released about 30 albums that sound exactly the same because that's what people expect of them (AC-DC et al), care about your honestly worrisome inability to figure out that they're the same band playing in a different style?
Also I really like the way you ended your post with a slippery slope argument, so that I can slippery slip the fuck away from it.

>>74349449
That "Also" should have been a "b)"

>>74349320
I mean you gotta have an interest in metal to make metal music or namedrop things with >100 views on yt
obviously some rappers are capitalizing on the aestethic, but you can spot them miles away cause they wear slipknot/ghost bc/nirvana shirts
I like some of dg's stuff, but their hipster audience takes away all the edge they have, each time they try to be as offensive/ abrasive, the hipsters love it and say it's experimental, wich must suck for them, cause it looks like they put a lot of effort into offending people, yet no one gets offended
>I am not really going out of my way to listen to this stuff.
u do u
there's some good stuff, there's also a lot of trash, I'm not gonna act like you're missing out on the best genre ever

>>74349008
>>74349109
Sorry my dude. That was some pretty shameless cherry picking on my part.

>>74349575
I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised to learn the lengths to which people go in order to seem "with it". It's pretty commonplace in the arts (any of them). Researching the keywords and the correct names to say in order to seem like they not only belong, but are leaders, of this or that scene. It's especially egregious in literature.

I suppose such a niche market as metal is somewhat less prone to this, but I'll be damned if it's exempt of it.

>>74349449
>I'd like to see some examples
It happens every time. Ever heard the term "side project"? Yes, sometimes bands go from thrash to groove to whatever. People change, too. But at least they stay in their big genre—like metal and so on.
>A band can do whatever the fuck they want
A band can also abruptly finish the set after 15 minutes and shit onstage. Doesn't mean it's good, mr. anarchist.
>It happens all the time
But not on every fucking album, from metal to folk to different genres of electronic.
>wow it's your fault you can't figure out what we do
Excellent argument. We the listeners are obliged to make sense out of all the bullshit a band pours on us, and if we don't we're lazy and dumb. Bands should never ever care about fans and listeners.

>>74349721
People call certain french and belgian bands "Krautrock" without a hint of irony.

>>74349721
>>74349733
Sorry I posted in wrong thread

>>74349727
A side project emerges when the main band still want to continue their sound but the members feel like exploring other sounds. It's not a tactic they use so that the band can change completely without "confuuuuuusing its faaaaaaans"
>Doesn't mean it's good, mr. anarchist.
You've said nothing here
>But not on every fucking album
Ulver is an extreme case, but you'll find bands changing style every three or maybe four albums. It's especially pervasive outside of metal. Industrial and electronic musicians in general are big into doing this.
>We the listeners are obliged to make sense out of all the bullshit a band pours on us, and if we don't we're lazy and dumb.
Yes! Are you taking the piss? Do you sometimes decide yo keep walking even though you want to make a right because the people behind you have been there too long and you're afraid you'll confuse them? What's this Nanny Band Universe you come from and how do I make sure I never get close to it?
>Bands should never ever care about fans and listeners.
Nice strawman. Anyway, bands should care more about doing what they feel like doing and being honest with themselves than catering to softheaded people who can't deal with the fact that five albums that sound nothing alike might be under the same bandname.

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more charts, please. I need more songs to listen to.

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Glam metal is a derivative of '70s rock & roll out of control hedonism filtered through the apocalyptic nightmare zone of LA in the early '80s. Glam is merely an evolution of AC/DC, Aerosmith, Van Halen, and KISS taking place in a generation where heroin and speed were widely more available than the last. Glam metal is the ultimate revolution of self-destructive anti authoritarian nihilism. Thematically, it asserts no moral dilemma is taking place, merely by denying the existence of morality. All life is a vortex of sin and death inside the city of angels. No musical movement did more to destroy Christian middle-class youth than Motley Crue and glam did in the early 80s.

https://youtu.be/qiVC89V4RpM

Boy band. HA!

>>74349863
>Glam metal is the ultimate revolution of self-destructive anti authoritarian nihilism.
Glam is corporate music at its finest
And also not metal

>>74349815
Fuck dude, it's more or less ok if a band changes genres once or twice, through logical evolution. But when they make zigzags with every album, they deserve to be memed on.
You're just defending Ulver, that's what you do. No one even said anything about the quality of their albums. I simply implied that they change the genres all the time and seemingly for no reason other than the heck of it. But you, of course, took it as an offense and went straight to blaming others and labeling them as closed-minded. Pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

>>74349929
wrong person

>>74349893

>>74349932
>when they make zigzags with every album, they deserve to be memed on
We've gone full circle. You still haven't explained why this is true.
>But you, of course, took it as an offense
>implying
Not everyone who decides to engage your arguments is crying over their keyboard, man.

>>74349893
Lol bro, as soon as anyone asks you glam fags why glam is so shit, you hide behind "muh motley crue". No one means them, ok? They were good, no one says they weren't. Shout at the Devil is a pretty respected album. It's the rest of glam, who took stuff like Ratt and Dokken and made their music even more commercial, tame and saccharine. And of all bands, Crue quickly eschewed their glam image for something less androgynous.
And for fuck's sake, don't pretend glam was "rebellious" or "deep".

>>74349929
>corporate music at its finest

Anyone who signs a record contract and agrees to distribute their music through someone else is guilty of the same exact thing.

You try so hard to think you're so different. You're rebelling against a machine that you live your entire life supporting. It would be pitiful it wasn't so ironic.

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>>74350049
I'm not your bro, bro.

>don't pretend glam was rebellious

I don't know, they pissed off a lot of powerful people.

>>74350184
>You try so hard to think you're so different.
Said the Glammie
>You're rebelling against a machine that you live your entire life supporting.
Projected the Glammie

Sorry your favourite music was a bland, tailored product by the free market exclusively to appeal to brainless fucks with disposable income and thus died away when their goldfish-like attention was detoured for half a second.

>>74349893
i'd faster take an anus essay seriously than a sentence of this

>>74350245
Anus essays are a very serious matter, anon.

>>74350217
i bet the pmrc like black and death metal the fags

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>>74350217
>'80s glam disses tipper gore
>'80s post punk disses Thatcher
>'80s pop disses televangelists
>'2000s pop punk disses bush

>>74350227
It's not projecting if it's actually true.

Your entire culture is and will always be the result of capitalist super hegemony constantly infiltrating every facet of media at your disposal.

Don't hide in a neurotic shell and quickly assert some kind of pseudo intelligence contrived at any given moment someone imposes the awful reality that you're terrified of grasping.

Glam musicians didn't give a fuck. They were having sex and ODing while others were stupidly pounding their fists against a wall trying to get out of the machine. No one is more worthy of Valhalla than one who stares into the abyss of this commercial orgy and says, "I know there is no way out, so I'm going to fuck a stripper and forget about it."

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>>74350245
No one comes here in the hope of discussing anything seriously.

>>74349893
Motley Crue ≠ All glam bands
Europe, Dokken and Stryper were totally different to Motley Crue

>Quiet Riot have a new album out
>Their lead singer now was a contestant on American Idol

I don't know which statement is more disturbing

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>>74350420
>t. I'm in college and I think I'm cool and sophisticated because I demonize capitalism
>t. will even read a pile of literature to prove himself true
>t. thinks he's (((liberating))) himself

>>74350420
>reddit spacing

>>74350517
Gotta be fun to listen to these granddads singing about teenage rebellion

>>74350517
lol my father love that band, i'm gonna tell to him to buy their new album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrtKmjGjhro

>>74350420
>It's not projecting if it's actually true.
It still is projecting even if you accidentally hit the nail, which you didn't.
>Your entire culture is and will always be the result of capitalist super hegemony constantly infiltrating every facet of media at your disposal.
not an American, sorry
>the awful reality that you're terrified of grasping.
Get over yourself you self-important wanker. You're not an apocalyptic visionaire and I'm not an oblivious teen. You're talking about glam, not the soviet revolution, you pathetic fuck.
>Glam musicians didn't give a fuck.
We're talking about people who literally made a career on outrageous public image. That's as far as "not giving a fuck" as it gets.
> They were having sex and ODing
just like every other big time musician/artist in history
>while others were stupidly pounding their fists against a wall trying to get out of the machine.
News flash: The "machine" is made out of mindless hedonism. You're making Huxley's dead body cry cold tears of frustration.
>"I know there is no way out, so I'm going to fuck a stripper and forget about it."
That's as derrotist a thought as it gets. This is what a rebellious, anti-establishmentarian mind thinks? You're tripping all over your weakass rhetoric.
>No one is more worthy of Valhalla than one who[...]
oh nevermind I'm being le epically trolled

looking at modren metal and socity being a glam band would be an act of rebellion

>>74350734
How? This is the golden age for transvestites to be socially accepted

the disparity between this glam-as-white-nationalism and glam-as-nihilism is interesting at least
>>74350734
dude contrarianism is the new counterculture XD

>>74350734
you're right, fuck feminism

Fuck Cuckzzy, he killed based Rhoads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6kgJH801k

>>74350420
>capatalist super hegemony inflitrating media
>hey u guiz lets have socialism its totally free and equal lulz
>oh yeah btduz im tots a glamshitter
You are the worst type of person. You remind me of this 15 year old girl I saw walking through the mall a couple days ago in a steel panther shirt.

>>74348994
I'm a pantheist.
I am him.

>>74350756
but wht if you're promoting hetrosexualism

>>74348994
>that video

As a fellow ausfag I cannot facepalm enough.

>>74350857
Then you'd be a poseur, which I guess is fine, since that's in the essence of glam

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Do you guys like atmospheric, folky stuff like this? This is probably my favourite album so far this year.

There's something I don't understand about blackies, why do they use kiss make up?

>>74350949
bc kiss ist krieg

>>74350949
they're special snowflakes

why do hard rock listeners insist on outing themselves as year 1 metal listeners constantly?

>>74343704
>>74343671
>>74343645
>>74343630

I prefer napalm death, but thanks for the recs

>>74351012
Because to them, that's legitimately as far as metal goes

>>74350949
To make the musician look like a walking corpse. Which is why it's called corpse paint.
>>74351012
Insecurity which leads them to write garbage like the Glamfags have written so far itt that's not too far from HHH-tier cringe. I personally think there's an aspect of Sour Grapes going on with all the trendy non-metal flavor of the season (glam this time around, djent before that, etc.)

>>74351080
>Answering in earnest to a troll post
Might as well get into a lengthy discussion on how Kiss ripped Alice Cooper off, who, in change, ripped Arthur Brown off

>>74343630
>>74343645
>>74343671
You know it's not actually a "reddit" thing to space out your posts to make them actually readable right?

>>74351118
Why would I want to do that? Some of you kids get triggered in the dumbest ways sometimes.

>>74350949
it's part of their costume for their performances. playing dress up on the weekends.

Is Katatonia nu-male?

>>74351175
>I'm entirely confused so I'll just attack whoever is replying to me like a blind texan hearing noises in his house at night

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>>74351175
>kids
get a LOAD

of this BIG GUY OVER HERE

Power>Glam>Speed>Heavy>>Thrash>>>>Death>Black>Doom

>>74351303
>being this detached from reality

>>74351354
it really is incredible how he managed to list them in the exact opposite of their true order.

>>74347214
Aye it's indeed gud

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>>74351303

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>>74351303
>falling for the glam boipussy memes

smgdmfh

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>>74351303
These poll results have made me realize that it's just a handful of you retards and most people here at /metal/ fortunately know that black metal is the most patrician genre.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13600263/r

>>74351443
>progressive/experimental/avant-garde
Those are all approaches, not discrete styles

>>74351216
yeah all depressive shit is nu-male

>>74351443
>only 18 non-nu-males

>>74351443
>shitposters of a dead scene are proportionally the minority
huh who would've guessed

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I'm finally listening to this. It's not as terrible or good as I expected. I wish it was using less generic sounding shoegaze tones. There is better screamo, shoegaze, and post-rock out there. I think really the only thing that makes it "metal" is the blast beats, and that's not even something that is definitively metal.

Thanks for reading my blog post, click like and then hit that subscribe button.

>>74351697
My reaction exactly. If you're a metal purist, you will consider that record a sacrilege and a blasphemy. But I just heard a pretty average record. Trying to merge something new, maybe. But, so did half of alternative. And it was simply not very memorable, just like Sunbather.

>>74351443
—No glam option
Afraid everyone would outvote you, extremecucks?

>>74351697
it only got hyped by p4kdrones and other hip sites not familiar with the existence of blackgaze.

roads to judah was better but sunbather got all kinds of hype because of AESTHETICS.

>>74351807
Glam would be part of "Traditional", I think

>>74351834
nice bait

>>74351786
At least the band admits that the type of music they played existed ten years before they did anything, although they also apparently shat on another band for stealing their style, which contradicts what they say. But I imagine that many non-metalheads were introduced to this type of music through Deafheaven, so what can I say.

>>74351822
And also meme value. I remember when SUN BAT HER used to be posted everywhere.

>>74351807
Glam isn't metal

>>74351786
>If you're a metal purist, you will consider that record a sacrilege and a blasphemy.
That's not why it's such a hated album.
>>74351822
>it only got hyped by p4kdrones and other hip sites not familiar with the existence of blackgaze.
This is. Thus it gave clueless outsiders the idea that they now had a valid opinion about black metal in general

People still get triggered with deafheaven?
Jesus fucking christ

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>>74351822
>but muh cover

>>74351848
it's not bait, it's true, where would you put glam then?

>>74351954
see >>74351888

>>74350420
t. nu-male

>>74351941
>People still get triggered with deafheaven?
No? Are you paying attention?
>>74351954
Outside of /metal/

>>74351834
>>74351888
t. vocal minority of extreme fans
you're just afraid to be outvoted by alpha males

>>74350420
>"I know there is no way out, so I'm going to fuck a stripper and forget about it."

very good goy

>>74351950
someone needs to post the image of the /mu/ catalog when SUN BAT HER shitposting was at its max

easily a dozen threads at one instance

>>74351904
>it gave clueless outsiders the idea that they now had a valid opinion about black metal in general

This reminded me of something somebody posted a while back about — at least online — Sunbather was the most reviewed black metal album, and many people were saying that black metal needed to be expanded and people shouldn't be so hostile to it, but they themselves listened to little or no black metal other than Deafheaven, who refuses to call themselves black metal.

>>74351941
>people are still getting triggered

No one was getting triggered. We were just having a discussion about Deafheaven. No one even threw around the word cuck or nu-male.

>>74351443
>black number 1
>proge over trad
something must be done about these nu-males

>>74351941
no ones triggered about it anymore because all of the hipsters moved onto sadcore trap music nowadays

>>74351834
>part of traditional
wew

>>74351941
no one's triggered anymore because /metal/ is full of nu-males

>>74352130
>>74352130
>>74352130

>/metal/ is discussing sunbather
FUCKING NU-MALES LEAVE THE HALL AND BACK TO /R/METAL IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NU-MALE SHIT

>>74352157
t. falseflagging nu-male

>>74352157
t. nu-male