paul mccartney's solo career: >fun >many memorable

>Paul's digs against John:

Too many people going underground
Too many reaching for a piece of cake
Too many people pulled and pushed around
Too many waiting for that lucky break

That was your first mistake
You took your lucky break and broke it in two
Now what can be done for you?
You broke it in two

>John's digs against Paul, in response to the first ones:

So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise
You better see right through that mother's eyes
Those freaks was right when they said you was dead
The one mistake you made was in your head

Ah, how do you sleep
Ah, how do you sleep at night

You live with straights who tell you, you was king
Jump when your momma tell you anything
The only thing you done was yesterday
And since you're gone you're just another day

Ah, how do you sleep
Ah, how do you sleep at night

Ah, how do you sleep
Ah, how do you sleep at night

A pretty face may last a year or two
But pretty soon they'll see what you can do
The sound you make is muzak to my ears
You must have learned something in all those years

Ah, how do you sleep
Ah, how do you sleep at night

>gee I wonder who is the more subtle and better lyricist!

Look, Paul's work in The Beatles is brilliant, but his solo work is terrible. It's nothing but plastic, soulless commercial stuff. At least John experimented.

John Lennon beat his wife.

>>74263177
Good, she broke up the band

>>74263177
So did Paul

FROG CHORUS

>>74262519
>making music for the hell of it
Not a good thing. At all
>>74263072
Damn

>>74263122
>temporary secretary
>plastic, soulless commercial stuff

>>74263072
>subtly is better
Stop

>>74263122
Paul was the true experimental Beatle. John was just following Yoko's cues

>>74263122
>implying
You never listened to McCartney II
have you

>>74263438
>temporary secretary
>not plastic, soulless
Try again

>>74263514
Oh what did Yoko contribute to "Tomorrow Never Knows"?

>>74263541
Lmfao what did John contribute? The tape loops were all Paul's

>>74263072
I dont care for the beatles, can someone explain this?

>>74263549
>Lmfao what did John contribute?
The concept of the song itself.

Note how all of Paul's experimental ideas weren't for his own songs, but for John's. He was too much of a pussy to compromise his commercial appeal.

>>74263572
>The concept of the song himself
>Flaked on a number of bad ideas and ultimately just read a meditation leaflet into a microphone

Wow, what a maverick. He really put his commercial appeal at risk there

>>74263122
>soulless

i really really like this buzzword

>>74263528
I've listened to all of McCartney's works. He had individual songs that reached the heights of what he produced in The Beatles, but his albums were generally far from impressive.

>>74263619
Buzzword is a buzzword.

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Paul and George had far exceeded John as songwriters by the time the Beatles broke up. No surprise that John only kept pumping out more and more autistic shit, most likely due to his drug (and wife) abuse.

>>74263569
>I dont care for the beatles
Then what are you doing in a beatles thread?
>>74263598
>Flaked on a number of bad ideas
Like what? The song itself was a bad idea?

>>74263569
John was a bitter man. That is all, really.

>>74263782
>John was a better man
ftfy

I thought /mu/ didnt like The Beatles

>>74263619
Take it friend. It's yours!

>>74262519
Paul solo > The Beatles >>> John solo > George solo > Ringo solo

>>74263859
/mu/ isn't one person

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i agree but george is best

>>74263251
No, he didn't kys you piece of shit.

>>74265408
>Paul > All

I like you.

>>74263809
>John was a beater man
Ftfy

>>74263122
Except Ram, Band on the Run, Mccartney and McCartney II are all more sonically adventurous and had superior songwriting to most of John's music.

John aped avant garde - his attempts at noise and musique concrete are juvenelia, to be said - dirtied it with lazy, self absorbed political teachings. He thought he was a messiah but he was just a junky loser.

Even george was more experimental than john. Check out his 60's electronic work if you haven't

>>74262519
>>no pretentiousness
Never listen to Secret Friend from McCartney II...

Objectively

Paul > George > Ringo > John

John is the reddit beatle

>>74265852
I can get behind this, with one minor alteration...

Paul >>> George > Ringo > John

>>74265906
I like George a lot tbf, top lad and knew how 2 write a good tune

>>74263122
are you crazy? all of johns albums after plastic ono band are just boring 70s rock. Only #9 dream gets close to being anything remotely out of the box

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>>74262519
>played drums on back in the ussr after a fight with Ringo
>took the reigns for the art direction of most Beatles albums
>took shots at yoko when she was in studio with them
>convinced the band they had to make a better album then pet sounds (sgt peppers)
>often got into spats with John and Ringo

I love Paul but I really feel like he was a control freak when it came to the direction and sound of the band. Just listen to the lyrics of 'we can work it out' and you'll see the kind of personality he was

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>>74267097
He was just doing what was best for the band.

>>74267097
pauls attitude during the final years of the beatles pissed me off at first, but the group needed SOME direction otherwise they would've just quit after Epstein died. I dont agree with the way Paul got along with Martin though

>>74267115
This. I couldnt agree more.

>>74267097
>>74267115

it's a mix between both of these. someone needed to step up after epstein but also i bet paul was annoying in that way. john was honestly more annoying though near the end his god complex was out of control but part of me pitys him too because he seemed like a scared lost boy. and without that era he wouldn't have made plastic ono band which is like pretty amazing for the egotistical autistic ramblings it is in the sense that if anyone was ever justified in doing a diary type indulgent messiah complex album like that it was john fucking lennon you know

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Mister marks can you find for me
Someone strong and sweet fitting on my knee
She can keep her job if she gets it wrong
Ah, but mister marks I won't need her long
All I need is help for a little while
We can take dictation and learn to smile
And a temporary secretary is what I need for to do the job
I need a
Temporary secretary, temporary secretary
Temporary secretary, temporary secretary
Mister marks could you send her quick
'cause my regular has been getting sick
I need a
Temporary secretary, temporary secretary
Mister marks I can pay her well
If she comes along and can stay a spell
I will promise now that I'll treat her right
And will rarely keep her 'til late at night
I need a
She can be a belly dancer
I don't need a need romancer
She can be a diplomat
But I don't need a girl like that
She can be a neurosurgeon
If she's doin' nothing' urgent
What I need's a temporary, temporary secretary
I need a, I need a
Temporary secretary. temporary secretary
Temporary secretary, temporary secretary
Temporary secretary, temporary secretary
Now mister marks when I send her back
Will you please make sure she stays on the right track
Spoken:
Well I know how hard it is for young girls these days in the face of everything to stay on
The right track
What I need's a temporary, temporary secretary
Temporary secretary I need a /
Temporary secretary, temporary secretary,
Temporary secretary I need a
Temporary secretary. temporary secretary,
Temporary secretary.

need i say more?

>>74263122
Paul is the man, it's amazing how he can still come out with great music. If someone wants to check out is post-Beatles work try any of these out

>Solo
McCartney
Ram
McCartney II
Tug of War
Flaming Pie
Run Devil Run
Chaos and Creation
Memory Almost Full
New

>Wings
Band on the Run
Venus and Mars
Wings Over America

>>74262519
Paul was a much better musician than John. Paul actually worked with Martin on all of his songs, John simply sent Martin a shitty, poorly recorded demo and said "go nuts".

>>74268347
>not including Wild Life, London Town, and Back To The Egg

>>74268876
Oh I like them and At the Speed of Sound too, but I can see how someone wouldn't dig them at first. I guess the best way to start would be with the 4 disc Pure McCartney, covers all the bases

>>74263416
>Not a good thing. At all
kill yourself you pretentious faggot

People would have caught on with John's bullshit and painfully mediocre ideas and music. The only reason his post-Beatles era is accepted is because of his non-self kys.

paulfags be like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjQgytauYZg

>>74267097
>convinced the band they had to make a better album then pet sounds (sgt peppers)

haheah, this is a fucking joke.

the only thing a beatle did that comes close to pet sounds is all things must pass

A lot of people like to rag on paul because he's "the fun one" and john's "the serious one". Of course in reality, people are actually more than one dimensional stereotypes.

I John's stuff more in the Beatles. I think Imagine and Plastic Ono Band are still probably better than most of Paul's solo stuff. That said, once you get past his early career, John's music took a nosedive. Sometime in New York is fucking boring white guy wannabe funk. Walls and bridges doesn't fare a whole lot better, save some really great singles. Double Fantasy was good, but still bloated. I think Milk and Honey had a really interesting and promising direction that could have rejuvenated John's career by embracing a more stripped down style. Then he died so we'll never really know.

Paul put out plenty of emotional and artistic shit too with McCartney II, RAM, and the Firemen. Once you really dig into his solo stuff, it's hard to rag on him. Even now as an old guy, it's nice to see him taking inspiration from younger indie stuff.

Basically my opinion is that John was always a singles guy. He put out one or two fantastic singles on each album and then phoned in the rest. Paul seems like more of a consistency guy where each album is a coherent artistic piece, but he rarely struck gold. I think that's why Beatles stuff trumps any John/Paul solo stuff.

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>>74269808
>George fags

>>74262519
George and Ringo were always the Patrician's choice, anyway.

Plus I don't think Too Many people was about John.

>>74263177
I don't care if you got dubs, your post is CANCER!

>>74263234
Cynthia did no such thing.
And Yoko could've been the 5th Beatle if the other three had given her a chance.

>>74270381
guy on the left is CIA

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>>74270481
Linda could've been the 5th Beatle if the other three had given her a chance.

>>74270765
Seeing as how she contributed just as much (of not more) to the Beatles, you're right.

>Yoko sang the line "Not when he looked so fierce" in the song The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill.

>Linda sang the highest octaves of the chorus in the song Let It Be.

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>Plebeian
Paul, John
>Contrarian
Ringo
>Patrician
George

>>74272296
This is true

Ringo was the only one who matters