There hasn't been an actual classic across any genre in

>>74112093
>a classic has no flaws whatsoever
Stopped reading there.

>>74112093
>this is why music is so easy to forget nowadays.
Stopped reading there.

>>74112093
In b4 "but there was tons of bad music in the past it was just forgotten and only the good stuff was remembered xD"

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>>74112093
How the fuck can anything be considered a classic less than 10 years after it's been released? Music, or anything really, needs some time to sink in before you can call it a classic.

>>74112209
This is true though.

benji

>>74112093
Whether you like it or not has no bearing on its classic status. I don't like TPAB or MBDTF for example but they will definitely go down as classics in the genre of hip-hop

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>>74112271
>TPAB
>not GKMC
go home pitchfork drone

>>74112292
I don't care about Kendrick, TPAB is the one I see posted more often. They'll both probably be considered classics anyway

>>74112254
This album is 10/10 and deserves to be a classic, but sadly I don't think it will become one

>>74112225
It's sort of true, but factors such as the difficult nature of funding, recording, and distribution, plus highly profitable record labels gave music a level of quality control both on the mainstream and independent level, that has gone out the window. There is without a doubt more garbage being produced than ever on account of the barrier to entry being lower than ever.

This shitty argument also fallaciously assumes that only good music is remembered and only bad music is forgotten. There are an endless number of forgotten composers from the baroque era, indistinguishable from Bach and Händel, at least to the layman, if you take care to look into the music of the era (Franz Benda, Giovanni Platti, Johann David Heinechen, Johann Adolph Hasse, etc.).

>>74112429
in my heart it will always be a huge classic :-)

>>74112469
thats all that matters!

>>74112093
sounds like you're just getting old OP. bound to happen eventually.

>>74112093
If a classic has no flaws, there are no classics. Simple as. Everything is flawed to at least someone, and that to me makes art art. An album that's pure silence for half an hour is technically a perfect album, with no flaws. That doesn't make it good, it doesn't venture anywhere it just stays still. Any album that explores some sound whatsoever has flaws.

>>74112292
Kinda confused by this. P4k gave GKMC a higher rating than TPAB.

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>>74112627
>An album that's pure silence for half an hour is technically a perfect album

have one on me

melodrama will be a classic screencap this

>>74112232
came out 10 years, 8 months ago.

checkmate

>>74112093
you daft cunt

Hint: maybe a classic does exist but you haven't heard it yet because it lacks promotion and indie hype.

>>74112886
>Hint: maybe a classic does exist but you haven't heard it yet because it lacks promotion and indie hype.
How is that supposed to help anyone?

>>74112967
How new are you?
It means you might have to look beyond what gets promoted and hyped up to find a classic.

>>74112998
>It means you might have to look beyond what gets promoted and hyped up to find a classic.
You're still talking hypotheticals. Name of these hidden gems.

>>74112886
>>74112998
Wrong, it can't be a classic if it didn't have a massive cultural impact.

>>74113043
lol what is Vu & nico

>>74112967
>>74113026
idiot

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>>74113078
>idiot

>>74112093
>is an outstanding example of a particular style; something of lasting worth or with a timeless quality; of the first or highest quality, class, or rank – something that exemplifies its class. The word can be an adjective (a classic car) or a noun (a classic of English literature). It denotes a particular quality in art, architecture, literature, design, technology, or other cultural artifacts. In commerce, products are named 'classic' to denote a long-standing popular version or model, to distinguish it from a newer variety.
Exmillitary
Helplessness Blues
Good Kid M.A.A.D. City
To Be Kind
MBDTF
In Rainbows
Person Pitch
Sound of Silver
Untrue
Merriweather Post Pavilion

And I bet I'm missing some other greater examples

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>>74113106
>Helplessness Blues
>Person Pitch
>Sound of Silver

>>74113127
Why dont you just post in r/indieheads?

>>74113026
>>74113102
>spoonfeed me
No, you'll be a drone your whole life if you let others decide the canon for you.

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>>74113151
>No, you'll be a drone your whole life if you let others decide the canon for you.
I'm not asking you to decide canon for me, I'm asking you what these hypothetical classics are since you're having trouble naming them.

check out this classic plunderphonics

https://mcraigculbertson.bandcamp.com/

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>>74113149
>Why dont you just post in r/indieheads?
I'm not the one who thinks those three pitchforkcore flavor of the week albums are classics.

>>74113166
Richard Dawson - Peasant
https://mega.nz/#F!H0gUCarJ!7cgFe8d4pRPgI0bKdqlZDQ
Here's one.

>>74113106
Replace Helplessness Blues with Crack-Up and we have a deal

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>>74113186
>all released over 6 years ago
>still talked about today
>"flavour of the week"
reannley mad m,e ththhingngk;kk

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>>74113215
>Richard Dawson - Peasant
You're baiting right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfaW-yD7DoA

If an album can have something this plain on it and be a classic, then sure I guess there's thousands of classic albums in the last 10 years

>>74113282
>plain
Not hearing it, raise me a classic or explain

>>74113282
He's fucking with you because you keep begging to be spoonfed, you autist

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>>74113319
>raise me a classic
Are you confused? The whole point of this thread is that there are no modern (~10 year) classics.

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>>74113337
>He's fucking with you because you keep begging to be spoonfed, you autist
When did I ask to be spoonfed?

>>74113342
What was the last classic album?

>>74112093
Hybrid Theory and Meteora will stand the test of time.

>>74112446
The barrier to entry is having a big circle of friends and access to moving them. God forbid label owners and concert promotions do their jobs, so the artist is relied on to do the job of songwriter, performer, producer, graphic artist, concert promoter, web designer, distribute and social media wizard who's go the scoop.

If you don't have the financial or human capital to delegate all of these tasks yourself, you don't even have a point of entry.

The fact remains that all of the canonic rock stars from yesteryear (the so-called golden age of the recording industry) were rudimentary in ability at best, their songs almost completely reliant on context (as opposed to universally appealing musical ideas and lyrical themes) and the music not even fun to dance to.

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>>74113360
not him/her but this is my vote

>>74113370
epic epic epic oh my god im literally screaming *laughing face with tears emoji*

>>74113282
what the fuck

>>74113430
I'm not joking but ok.

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>>74112093
sorry but your post is wrong

>>74112093
2 WORDS

IN

RAINBOWS

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>>74113370
Those two didn't even stand the years they came out in.

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>>74112093

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>>74112093
another example

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>>74112093
and another

>>74113501
>>74113530
hi resident advisor

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>>74112093
if this isnt a classic i dont know what the fuck is

>>74113127
Sound of Silver is one with the biggest potencial to become a classic there, and Helplessness Blues is one of the best prog folk albums in decades, you're a fucking pleb

>tfw people think they know what people in the future will like
lel

>>74113685
>Helplessness Blues
>prog folk
Can you at least pretend to know what you're talking about?

>>74113669
12 years

>>74113706
Dude, Where's Your Argument?

>>74113722
>Dude, Where's Your Argument?
Burden of proof is on you. In what world is Fleet Foxes 'prog folk'?

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>>74113712
H-has it really been this long anon?

>>74113430
omfg you're comment was lit asf anon im dead

>>74113740
>assuming I'm the person you're responding to
helloooooo reddit

>>74113785
It doesn't matter if you're the person I'm replying to, burden of proof still isn't on me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>>74112446
And no one pays any attention to the new sea of garbage (depending on your definition of garbage). None of the thousands of trash wannabe producers and struggle rappers will ever come close to being relevant, and even the most popular soundcloud fuckboys like X and lil pump will be forgotten in a year at most.

And if the overall quality of the music industry is so important to you, why not get involved yourself? Make music if you can, market for really good artists that you want to hear more of, etc.

>>74113587
>>74113652
a big yes to both of these.

>>74112217
This. OP will forever be a faggot.

>>74112093
Ok. So things are considered classics due to the passage of time and how their quality trancends time. Classics are based on how influential they are to artists around that time as well.

>>74113706 whew im glad i have a sense of harmony

>>74112093
In hiphop My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Kendrick TPAB is contrived shit due to the societal atmosphere. Literal fucking meme shit it's so bad.

In rock Swans - To be Kind/The Seer/The Glowing Man

In pop Carly Rae Jepsen - EMOTION, Jai Pauls leaked album, Animal collective

In indie Cloud Nothings Attack on Memory and whatever else fills this shit genre

In country sturgil and jason isbell. Anything Jason Isbell has done this decade is great. Doesn't get enough exposure.

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>>74112093
Cool opinion

>>74113950
>thinks indie is a genre and then mentions a punk album

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>>74114045
>thinks indie isn't a genre
??

Anyway here's the only classic modern punk album.

>>74114068
its ok
high is better but maybe not punk
viet cong is a stone cold classic though

>>74114207
>high
What's that?

>>74113078
VU&Nico did have a massive cultural impact eventually.

>>74113166
>dumb frogposter
>screenshot from Instagram

>>74114234
royal headache record
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7Yn92lHurYNJ24Xur6MwRRvNR1pprem_

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>>74114270
>>dumb frogposter
>>>/r/eddit

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As much as you may not care for it, this has become a classic due to it's meme status.

>>74114045
i tend to think all of indie is just indie rock. Which is why i listed Cloud Nothings. And i think you listed said Veit Cong. Which another great album

>>74112093
gad damnit TPAB was shit

>>74112093

what is the last album you consider to be a classic

>>74112093
>There
Stopped reading there.

>>74112254
i saw them a few weeks ago at a tiny club. they were working their own merch booth. a very small crowd stayed after and they talked to everybody.

its sad that they aren't a bigger deal.

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>There hasn't been an actual classic across any genre in the last 10 years.

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i really think this will be remembered as a classic

>>74115448
i like this album and deerhunter in general but honestly i feel like they will be seen in retrospect as a passing buzzband propped up by pitchfork

List of classics that have held up (made in the past 10 years)

Benji
The Archandroid
Have One On Me
Channel Orange
Mista Thug Isolation
Merriweather Post Pavilion
Fever Ray
Acid Rap (I don't like it but it's still a classic)
Good Kid Maad City (same as acid rap)
Piñata

Albums that I hope hold up and probably will

Common As Light
Sleep Cycle
Blonde
Crack Up
A Shadow In Time
The Glowing Man
Flower Boy (too soon to even guess but maybe)

>>74115583
jesus fucking christ you have shit taste kill yourself

>>74113478
my guy

>>74115583
do you listen to anything that isn't pitchfork approved?

Somebody That I Used to Know is going down as a classic desu

>>74113950
>Attack on Memory

My nigga

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but

>>74115583
always disliked tyler and ya flower boy is off the fucking rail really.

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dumbasses

>>74115535
hey that album is really good and i don't think there's much that can take away from that

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>>74115919
wrong album bucko

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>>74112627
>An album that's pure silence for half an hour is technically a perfect album
what.
the flaw in a completely silent album is that there is no sound you mongoloid.

>>74115361
I hope not.

>>74115639
>common as light
>sleep cycle
>mista thug isolation
>a shadow in time
>the glowing man

>>74116372
But the flaw isn't in it

>>74116407
>>sleep cycle
7.6
>>mista thug isolation
8.2
>>a shadow in time
7.9
>>the glowing man
8.1

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>>74114430
literally reddo

>>74112093
Have One on Me
Causers of This
Queen of the Wave
James Blake s/t
Love Remains
Eccojams
The ArchAndroid

>>74112150

this desu.

0/10 bait, OP. Try being more subtle next time.

>across any genre

The absolute meme classic. The most obvious one. Vaporwave may be a dead fad, but Floral Shoppe is a classic.

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>>74116407
Anon, he said "isn't"

>>74116459
queen of the wave is gaaaarbage from back when /mu/ were obnoxious wannabe poptimists but especially liked obscure watered down versions of everything that was popular because you could scrobble it and have a band nobody had ever heard of in your scrobbles and with that in mind it makes sense why it was all over the board for a couple months. You're old news we like hip-hop now

>>74116453
none of them are pitchfork-core, are you saying that I have to actively dislike anything pitchfork gives higher than a 7?

>>74116594
the fuck do I care about what you like you bunch of underage newfags

>>74112254
Only good record these limpwristed milquetoasts ever made

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>>74113106
>>74113106
>Exmillitary
>Helplessness Blues
>Good Kid M.A.A.D. City
>To Be Kind
>MBDTF
>In Rainbows
>Person Pitch
>Sound of Silver
>Untrue
>Merriweather Post Pavilion

>>74112254
one of my fav albums

>>74112292
>>74112653
looking pretty stupid now

>>74113184
i forgot about you. will listen to new stuff.

>>74113424
You are 100 percent correct.

>>74115955
i like it but its nowhere near a classic

>>74113727
only acceptable answer so far

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Greatest Folk album of all time.

>>74112254
Also this.

Music isn't taken as seriously now. Every act is simply a rendition of their favorite artist's style, nothing's original anymore. If you like it, cool. But don't tell me Sufjan Stevens, Death Grips, or Grimes is doing anything groundbreaking. They're just catchy songs.

>>74120361
I'll say now there's obviously a few exclusions, but you can't tell me music is evolving at the same rate it has the last century.

>people actually think The Money Store isn't going to be held up as a holy icon similar to TVU&N in 20 years
It's the sound of the dystopian online future you fucks

>>74112093
name a classic you fucking retard

>>74120436

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s8OvBn39Qw

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>>74120422
>he fell for the 'death grips is innovative and hasn't been done decades before' meme

ITT:
>it's popular so it can't be a classic and if you like it you're a melon/pitchfork/indieheads/hipster/etc drone
>it's unpopular so it's obscure and will never be considered a classic by the mainstream

P I C K O N E

>>74120518
>frogposting
>le dalek, Blackie, Techno animal, whatever meme
As if i'm supposed to believe you know jackshit about music, kek

>>74120566
You can't seriously believe anything in this thread will be regarded as a "classic" can you ? Being realistic about it, the only albums I see as classics are Take Care or My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Not because they're the best, but because people actually listen to them.

>>74120614
>only albums listened to by lots of people are classics
lmao

>>74120646
Uh, yeah ? That's what separates a classic from a "very good" album. A classic isn't based on how good an album is, but sales and relevance.

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>>74114491
Mfw I'm about to tell you to fuck off and then realize you're 100% right.

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*blocks your path*

>>74112093
too many hugboxes to include them all
you're welcome

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>>74112254
Really empty and derivative of 80's post punk / shoegaze.

Mark's recent work is the closest mainstream music has got to being gripping in awhile

>>74120614
If classics are "people like them a lot" and "critical acclaim" and "pretty damn good", then

>either GKMC or TPAB. /mu/ will deny this because culture war partisanship but the /mu/ of 2027 won't have those same preconceptions of the relationship between the liberal media, popular culture, and 2010s SJW politics
>either MBDTF or, possibly, another 2010s Kanye album, but only in a Pinkerton-esque sort of "we hated it before but now it's pretty good" situation
>have One on Me
>a nuSwans album
>we already fucking consider MPP a classic on /mu/ why the fuck is this even a discussion
>any Death Grips album, they're probably going to be seen in similar vein to Radiohead with regards to their batting average
>A Moon Shaped Pool, not because it's historic, but because it's a really good Radiohead album. It'll basically be carried by the success of OKC and KA much like The Wall is carried by the successes of DSotM and WYWH
>Art Angels, if Grimes ever comes out with another critically acclaimed darling
See /mu/ will debate me on this because it's the year 2017 and nu/mu/ doesn't attach albums and bands to music, they attach it to subcultures because nu/mu/ uses music as a fashion accessory, but ten years from now when fags like Fantano have all but completely faded into the darkness they rose from, these albums will still be there, and without those same cultural biases, and WITH added nostalgia goggles works like these are going to be seen in a much higher regard, regardless of whether they were the high points of the 2010s.

>>74113106
>To Be Kind
>an album released less than 3 years ago, already considered a 'classic'
this board just cracks me up sometimes, in a sad way

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like um try again sweetie

>>74121237
The more I sit on this album the more clear it becomes as my aotd. Nothing else really came that close for me so far.

>>74121340
well put.

>>74121340
A classic album isn't just a good album or critically praised, it has to be an overall successful record and have greatly impacted the artist's career. Nothing Sufjan Stevens did solidified a new fan base or reached out to a larger audience.

>>74121237
This album's a contender because it redefined Kozelek's career and created an archetypal style for him.

>>74112232
I would also consider this too. I see people wearing The Devil and God shirts all the time. It established them as more than just indie rock band but one regular kids into alternative rock listened to also.

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>>74112093
Isolation Chamber 4 AOTD

Screencap this

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>>74121616
Also 2007 was a good year.

>>74121340
>A Moon Shaped Pool
That's the one I can really see, what with OK Computer and Kid A being cornerstones of /mu/, In Rainbows being in a similar spot for joining both of their influences together, and then with A Moon Shaped Pool I feel it has the potential to be seen as a very, very solid album that's a standout from pure quality.

Death Grips, yeah, that's a possibility. Kanye might get Yeezus as his Pinkerton to MBDTF's Blue Album. Kendrick, that one I'm torn (I can see GKMC having more of a chance than TPAB, but if TPAB manages it's all but guaranteed GKMC will too). nuSwans, I'd put a maybe. MPP being even in the discussion is pretty idiotic, I can't really see how one can not consider it a classic (and I'm not that much of a fan of MPP). Grimes, that one I'm fiddly, really. It could be, or she might not just really live up to the hype.

>>74112093

Is there a person on this planet that has heard In Ghost Colours and didn't like it?

(hint: no)

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it'll be a classic to me ;_;

>>74121559
I'd say a classic album is a classic album because it stands out from what was going on at the time, for one of two reasons. Either it was completely different from everything else being played at the time (think Slint - Spiderland) or because it stands out as one of if not the best example of what was popular at the time (Beach Boys - Pet Sounds). Overall successful or meaningful within a single artist's career means very little, I really doubt Hybrid Theory's going on any classic lists anytime soon.

>>74113409
>their songs almost completely reliant on context (as opposed to universally appealing musical ideas and lyrical themes)
Explain.

>>74112157
underrated

>>74121941
He means that pop music sounds like the time it was created in and becomes dated and irrelevant once that era is over.

>>74112254
indie garbage

Rolling Stones--Miss You is the classic example of a contextual song that only meant something in 1978.

the thing that establishes an album as a classic is it influencing other artists and it's longevity. Sometimes an album is an instant classic though
>albums that I think could be classics
TPaB and GKMC
Replica and R+7
Deathconsciousness
MPP
The Seer and TBK
The Money Store
MBDTF
Atrocity Exhibition
Blackstar

>>74113478
this made me proud to be british

A classic album is one that set trends and influenced the direction of music for the next generation. The Beatles did this, Herman's Hermits not so much.

>>74122054
Explain.

>>74122069
You forgot Shaking the Habitual and any of Autechre's latest stuff like Exai

>>74122136
shaking the habitual isn't as good as some say it is and I feel like Autechre's current work isn't nearly as good as their earlier stuff but it's definitely been improving with each recent release

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>>74122050
right like can anyone explain the appeal of this album?

>>74122111
Miss You is Jagger saying how he missed his fans since the Stones had kind of been irrelevant for a while. The line about people thinking he's crazy for walking in Central Park is a reference to how crime filled NYC was in the 70s.

>>74113106
>MBDTF
>In Rainbows
>MPP
Yep

>GKMC
>Untrue
>To Be Kind
Maybe

The rest willl 100% be forgotten within 30 years by anybody who isn't a hipster

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Hop Along - Painted Shut

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>>74122213
wheeeeeeew lad if only

>>74121559
Illinois is already considered a classic indie album

>>74114013
Underrated post.

Taylor Swift will be remembered in 30 years; she has enough big hits for it. I don't see someone like Ariane Grande being remembered for very long; I can't even name a song of hers if I tried.

Kanye sure. Lana Del Ray sure. The Canadian hobgoblin...nope.

>>74113587
>>74113669
>>74114013
>>74115812
>>74115919
>>74121237

All get a huge yes

As for albums that haven't been mentioned, I think there are a fair bit that might get recognized as classics based solely on their discussion levels. They also don't all have equal shots at becoming classics in my eyes, they're just my guesses.

The Flaming Lips – Embryonic
The xx - s/t
James Blake - s/t
Burial –Untrue
Run the Jewels – Run the Jewels 2
Mastodon – Leviathan (just about to hit the 12 year point come August)
Clipse –Hell Hath No Fury
J Dilla – Donuts
Meshuggah – obZen
Big Boi –Sir Lucious Left Foot
Shabazz Palaces – Black Up
Godspeed You! Black Emperor – Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
Killer Mike – R.A.P. Music

Consider all of the 70s artists who managed to survive and remain relevant in the 80s. It was mostly the heavyweights, the guys like Black Sabbath, Aerosmith, and Kiss who set the trends and influenced 80s rock. Bands like Foghat and Nazareth were just derivative shit who did nothing unique or different so they vanished once the 70s were over.

>>74112093
>a classic has no flaws whatsoever
So no classics exist?

>>74122434
How does it feel listening to flawed albums?

The last classic to be released was The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me

>>74122455
Pretty good. Many of those albums are amazing.

Out of curiosity, what are some of these supposed "flawless" albums?

>>74122345
Ariane Grande is an ex-Nickelodeon star, of course she's going to come off as a little manufactured in a way Lana Del Ray doesn't.

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this was a classic

>>74122396
yeah i think the xx debut deserves classic status. It's amazing what a bombshell that was. You hear how much it influenced

>>74122626
Lana Del Rey is more manufactured than any other artist out there today.

>>74121559
people listen to Brand New to get girls

>>74122626
Lana is literally an industry plant.

>>74115361
it really wont

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Anthony Fantano has the most punchable fucking face I swear. If I could kill him and get away with it, I would not hesitate.

>>74112254
Good tunes but nothing amazing about it. Doesn't do anything unique.

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>196 replies
>not a single plausible contendor for classic album

>Fantano
Shills for crappy indie bands and memerap
>Scaruffi
Has a perverse hatred of certain artists (Beatles, Bowie, etc). Is a little too interested in buttmetal. Will never give anything a 10/10 because he wants you to believe there's no album out there too weird enough for him.
>Christgau
Words his reviews as densely and impenetrably as possible because it's very important to him that the reader knows he's smart, but in the end he just likes funk grooves and basic, stripped-down punk rock with an upbeat message.

>>74122786
>>74114013
Hmm...

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>>74122595
>Out of curiosity, what are some of these supposed "flawless" albums?

>>74123314
No, you're supposed to post an album that doesn't have flaws.

>>74122172
>>74112254

I truly don't know. My friend talked about this album to an annoying extent back in HS. Something's wrong with people

>>74123367
ITAOTS is the only flawless album ever recorded

>>74120634
was gonna say this......

First album might deserve classic status more honestly. But Pretty. Odd.'s like a cult album

>>74120634
my man

>>74115993
nah, c&l is good but age of adz is timeless

>>74123438
Do you have a version that only has the first two tracks and the last track?

>>74121155
this guy knows what he's talking about

>>74123576
>Do you have a version that only has the first two tracks and the last track?
Possibly the worst taste I've ever encountered on /mu/, and that's saying a lot.

>>74123644
Why are you being so rude?

>>74123673
plebs like you deserve to be gassed

>>74122803
>Scaruffi
>Buttmetal
Oh, boy. Examples? I'm not saying I'd be surprised.

>>74123684
In your opinion I'm a pleb.

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>>74123707
>Buttmetal
>Oh, boy. Examples? I'm not saying I'd be surprised.

>pic related
>also gives Korn's self-titled a 7.5

>>74123707
Say, Disturbed or any other nu metal. He has a huge boner for that stuff.

>>74123709
It's in the 10 commandments sorry dude. Maybe you should have loved Jesus Chriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiist like the rest of us but now Im finna throw you into the gas chamber

but for real though you are factually a pleb

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how the fuck is this not a classic

>>74123744
Factually?

Do you have a peer reviewed source I can confim this with?

>>74123755
>Do you have a peer reviewed source I can confim this with?
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/5758-in-the-aeroplane-over-the-sea/

>>74123767
That's a music review, not a scientific journal

>>74123784
Where did I claim it was a scientific journal?

>>74123784
thats like your opinion dude
Anything us Patricians say is Law

>>74123795
And it's your opinion that your a patrician

>>74123806
No, it is Law. To become a Patrician you must take the grueling Initiation Rite 2-3 years after joining /mu/.

>>74112093
you realise that it takes time for people to get recognised ?
no one bought or cared about nick drake until the 80s and 90s

>>74123814
Well... where do I sign up?

>>74123825
Thats what this thread is for >>74114531

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*ahem*

>>74112093
>Bowie and Prince
an attention seeking tranny usually accompanied by a shitty piano and a fucking black midget high on 80s kitsch

>>74113478
this 2bhfam

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Uhh

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Look, I'm not saying this is the best album of the past 10 years or anything, nor is it Death Grips best album, but this is indisputably a timeless classic that will live on for decades to come.

>>74112254
no
>>74112522
lol no
>>74113424
barely an 8/10
>>74113550
I like it but it'll never be classic status + GOD is better
>>74113575
hahahaha
>>74113669
hahaha
>>74113727
no
>>74114068
lfuckingmao
>>74114491
unironically yes
>>74115353
big no
>>74115919
big big no
>>74122629
lol
>>74122715
lol
>>74123965
great but not a classic
>>74124950
yes

>>74112157
This. Besides, many classics might be hidden gems that aren't appreciated by the mainstream until later on, like TVU's debut album

>>74121559
>A classic album isn't just a good album or critically praised, it has to be an overall successful record and have greatly impacted the artist's career. Nothing Sufjan Stevens did solidified a new fan base or reached out to a larger audience.
sure, if you don't actually care about music and only about marketing, sales figures, and how art is received in social settings.

>>74124973
>Death Grips
>Yes
>Vapor wave
>Unironically yes
Epic, just epic!

>>74125159
if you don't think exmilitary is an underground classic you're just plain out of touch, there's not much more to it than that

>>74114491
vaporwave is not a meme

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This will be a classic.

>>74125282
>le watered down bob dylansteen for millennials
a classic shit, yes

>>74125295
It's better than anything Springsteen ever did. Not ready to make that statement about Dylan, though.

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>>74112093
oppa gangnam style

>>74121237
this

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probably the best album since 2000

>>74122050
it's indie but not garbage, garbage music is rap or metal.

>>74113478
really makes you proud to be british

>>74125708
Animal collective, Radiohead, Arcade fire are protips

>>74125801
is this your first week on /mu/

>>74113078
>Vu & nico didn't have massive cultural impact
'Sup, retard

>>74125846
nope they didn't, name a 60s album that sounds like them :-)
they were rediscovered in the late 70s during the post punk era. it's a well known fact idiot.

>>74120337
Hadestown is her masterpiece.

>>74125870
>nope they didn't, until they did
thanks for your visceral support of my point, retard

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rockists might dismiss it tho

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This is the album of the decade

>>74125890
it's you that have problems at reading comprehension.
the guy was talking about the fact that an album can't be a classic if it didn't have a cultural impact.
it's a well known fact that vu & nico DIDN'T had a big cultural impact during its release, but became a big classic.
so, the fact that a today's album didn't have a massive cultural impact ioesn't mean it can't be a classic in the future.

>>74113685
Helplessness Blues is the worst kind of faux-rustic Starbucks folk and fuck Fleet Foxes for putting all of modern folk down the shitter with their awful corporate slosh

>>74125918
the record received significant buzz upon it's release, it just didn't sell well
hip kids were into it from day one, and culture as a whole catched up a few years later (early 70s)
it definitely had and has cultural impact, retard

>>74125937
ok so, name an album from 1968 or 1969, or even 1972 that sounded like vu & nico.
cmon i'm ready, :-)
hihihih :-D

>>74125937
>The album's controversial content led to its almost instantaneous ban from various record stores, many radio stations refused to play it, and magazines refused to carry advertisements for it.

>It was not until a decade later that the album started to receive almost unanimous praise by numerous rock critics, many of whom made particular note of its influence in modern rock music. Christgau wrote in his 1977 retrospective review for The Village Voice that the record was difficult to understand in 1967, "which is probably why people are still learning from it. It sounds intermittently crude, thin, and pretentious at first, but it never stops getting better"

>>74125937
>>74125976
>The critical world also took little notice of the album. One of the few print reviews of the album in 1967 was a mostly positive review in the second issue of Vibrations, a small rock music magazine.

yeah, not really an album that had a massive cultural impact

>>74112093
sounds like a huge asspull but okay

>>74125952
>>74125976
are you illiterate?
like I said, the record "buzz" and so did the velvet underground, mostly because of their early connection to andy warhol
the album itself had releases problems and was banned from pretty much everywhere, but it did generate buzz, even more so 5 years later or so. Cultural impact is cultural impact even when delayed
Also, stop taking all your information from wikipedia and actually do some research

>>74126021
>and actually do some research
implying you did

you still have to name at least one (1) album that sounded like them in the 60s-early 70s.
i'm waiting. :-)

>>74126039
>implying you did
I've been a fan my whole life, so was my father. I don't need wikipedia to feed me minutiae about this record, I already know it by heart.

>you still have to name at least one (1) album that sounded like them in the 60s-early 70s.
Do I? My claim was always that the album has cultural impact. Whoever wants to disagree with that, good luck

>>74126064
interesting: that album had cultural impact but no band was trying to sound like them even after 5-6 years the release of their debut. strange, isn't it?
your father was a fan... becaus he's part of generation x.. he knew them because they were rediscovered in the late 70s.

>>74125911
that's like delay's 5th best album, stop droning scaruffi

>>74122213
good album
>one night in the park, the pellet gun
>took out an eye, i came undone

>>74126109
cultural impact is cultural impact, it doesn't matter if it happened upon the release, a few years later or decades later
your whole perspective on this record comes from music criticism's view of music history. people who "reappraised" their music like Christgau were never insiders to the scene bands like TVU belonged to, no surprise it took him that long to listen to a record that suffered from distribution issues for years. People who got hold of the record produced music derivative from it almost immediately. TVU's influence on Roxy Music's sound, for instance, is noticeable from the very beginning of their career. Most protopunk music derives from The Stooges or TVU, or in very rare instances comes from independent innovators like that south american protopunk group. The predecessors to noise rock also are influenced by TVU and White Light/White Heat

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step aside plebs

>>74112217
>How the fuck can anything be considered a classic less than 10 years after it's been released?

This is an 18+ website, son. I can tell you never lived through the 1990s. The phrase "instant classic" exists for a reason. So many albums dropped that you knew - on first listen - that you were hearing something for the first time that had never been tried and was unavoidably going to influence thousands of musicans and change the musical landscape for all time.

From the 60s to the 90s, there was incredible experimentation and inventiveness and people were not afraid to take risks.

Today everything is a recombination of elements that went before; all clipped together on the same artificial sounding DAW.

OP is right. You are the fag.

>>74121155
Mah nigga. Best Post-Hardcore album of the last 10 years.

>>74126592
t.rockist

>>74121443
>>74123908
>>74123965
>>74124950
These.

>>74112093
just wait for the next 1975 album OP

>>74126592
you sound like a twat

>le rock music is real music
>if it's made on a computer it takes no skill!!!
>real music is made with guitars!!!

fuck off

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:)

>>74123438
actually correct

>>74123965
this will be a classic. It will be remembered as the defining album of the decade, not because it does anything musically revolutionary, but it captures what life in the 2010s feels like better than any other album released so far.

Didn't see ...Like Clockwork mentioned.
Maybe Boxer too, but I'm a The National stan, so a bit biased.

Otherwise definitely think Blonde will be considered a classic, it's been a year and I already feel like it made its impact, maybe soon influences will come.

>>74125144
>If you don't care about music
I do ? But one opinion doesn't validate an album's relevancy. If you drop an album that's well-received by your core fan base, without attracting a larger following or new reputation, then it's just a good album. Nothing more.

>>74128779
this

Just you wait OP, my album's coming out next year ;^)

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blame jew gold.

>>74130099
Why the antisemitism?

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>>74115361

>>74130099
>Not being on the side that has a giant Robo-Jew-Spider
No thanks, I'll be on the winning team.

>>74112093
This album will remain relevant forever.

>>74130099
Looks cool

>>74130385
>This album will remain relevant forever.
Which?

Culture moves much too fast now for an album to be considered a classic and to influence a large segment of society for decades.

There aren't classics anymore because music is mediocre, it's because culture has irreversibly changed.

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At first I was like "OP wtf you're so wrong." But the more I think about it the more it's true. There's so little innovation happening in music. Like everyone's mention Kanye/Kendrick, but hip hop's been there for a while now; it's classics are records like It Takes A Nation. The one relatively new genre(s) that happened relatively recently is dubstep and future garage, for whom the bonafide classic is pic. So that's the one classic record in the past 10 years, and soon it'll belonged than 10.

The next genre to have a true potential classic is maybe Vaporwave as it's the one truly new genre this decade. But after the initial innovators (Eccojams, FSV), none of the other artists really pushed the genre at all, making chances of a classic release low. There's also other electronic stuff like Bass music, Bubblegum Pop, etc. but even those are just "one guy makes a cool record, then everyone else copies just that" than people pushing the envelope.

>>74130567
>The more you think about it the more its true
No thats untrue

>>74130567
>It Takes A Nation.
Has anyone even listened to this album in the past 15 years?

>thinks that there hasn't been a classic in a decade
>thinks Prince and Bowie had talent and made anything that you could call a classic
there's your problem. you have shit taste and think only popular music counts.

>>74130567
charli xcx will save us

>>74129737
this, blonde really is the aotd

>>74130780
probably the best nominee

too bad the followup was a letdown

>>74130903
Agreed. New Bermuda was alright. But there next album better be an improvement or they will fade into obscurity.

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Underbelly is a fucking tune.

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>>74130780
>hey lets play pic related but with blast beats and screechy vocals
It's a good record, but not as groundbreaking as people think.

>>74130780
Ahh that's what I like to call nu-male-metal
>recording of the band buying weed in the middle of a song
Epic bro, simply progressive.

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>>74130903

> too bad the followup was a letdown

New Bermuda was great. Idiot

>>74131094
this is the only sensible opinion

>>74131040
no it isn't

>>74131343
This is a booty call, my boot up your asshole.

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>>74131186
>New Bermuda was great. Idiot

>>74130548
>he thinks culture didn't always move fast
Sgt. Pepper sounded dated by 1971.

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>>74116467
>0/10 bate
>300 responses
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

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this is coming soon be patient

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>>74112093
wow this post set /mu/ on pure defense mode even though it's totally correct

how long until musicians start putting more craft into their albums again so a classic can finally appear after so many years of low-shelf-life music?

>>74121237
too pedestrian, ghosts is better

>>74131686
see
>>74112150

>>74131738
All the electric tracks on Ghosts are awful

>>74131444
>Sgt. Pepper sounded dated by 1971.
That's not what I mean, what I mean is the fact that culture moves so fast now that no one pays real attention to anything, so nothing has a lasting impact.

>>74131140
>weed