I grew up/went through my teens hoping these two would make something good again, not a carbon copy of the albums I liked from them but something even they gave a shit about, but it never came. You can throw eminem in the same vein but hes still alive so there's still time,
I always figured they had it in them at one point, surely it can't just vanish for good, why do artists suddenly turn to shit and stay shit? At least bowie showed a glimpse of still having talent towards the end.