why do people become upset at the idea of electronic music? like

>>74089316
>How come no one complains about synths in rock music but complain when someone makes synth based trance music?-
ppl hate electronic music because it gives ppl the freedom to make tracks without having to pay some fucker to teach u how to play an instrument. its mostly from envy
electronic music is pure feel and imagination. rockists don't have it anymore which is why it peaked in the 70s

>>74089345
Nigger

>>74089316
It's not the instrumentation, it's the usual lack of vocals. One could easily argue that modern pop music is just electronic with someone singing on top. When "normies" hear music without vocals they lose their shit. I'll never understand it.

>Okay electronic song with vocals
"This is some good shit, anon."
>Good electronic song without vocals
"Where are the words, anon? This is too weird for me."

>>74089357
He's right to an extent.
Music should be about expression before talent.
But there's a dividing line between mass produced bullshit and genuine human expression, and electronic music is often plagued by the mass produced bullshit because of it's efficiency.

The first music I ever consciously listened to was electronic, despite me being only about 7 years old; Kraftwerk, Jean Michel Jarre, and Tangerine Dream all blew my fucking mind when I listened to them

>>74089453
And for some reason they don't like the repetitiveness of electronic music, but the music they listen to is repetitive too without the vocals.

Because people see it as a crutch or weak for not being able to play instruments.

Rockist are so retarded

the 'electric' guitar was equally criticized a few generations ago.

generations from now electronic music will be 100% normalized in society just like electric guitars.

why even waste the energy rockists?

>>74089316
>>74089345
You type like a woman.

>>74089316
When someone uses synth in rock music, that person is still performing live; there is real instrumentation occurring, human talent is being tapped into.
when you use a midi to produce music you are literally just using a computer. there skill required, only basic music theory knowledge. In fact, you don't even need so much theoretical understanding to just make electronic sounds with a beat.
Not to mention without someone's original instrumentation we would have never reached the level of electronic music we have today.

>>74089706
the real question is what instrument or genre will be criticized in the future??

will we be the "electronists"?

>>74089768
trap drums

>>74089759
>Not to mention without someone's original instrumentation we would have never reached the level of electronic music we have today.
not our fault they sold their talent for $$$

>>74089316
there's an awful lot of low-effort copy paste electronic music that feels like cheating to people with a traditional music education

kind of like knowing how to program a game engine vs. just using Unity or even RPG Maker

>>74089471
>electronic music is often plagued by the mass produced bullshit because of it's efficiency
For the most part it really isn't, not any more than other forms of music. It's just an easy thing to imagine it works that way because a lot of electronic artists prefer relative anonymity and deliberately cultivate a "manufactured" image. Also there's historically been no good way to perform it, so "live" performances were overwhelmingly just miming.

>>74089514
That's just the genre, though. Repetition or lack of vocals has nothing to do with the way it's made.

>>74089655
The funny thing is that often these criticisms were made against things that were actually played by hand.

>>74089759
perfect example of a substance-free fallacious argument

>>74090109
There's also a lot of territory opened up by electronic music that you won't necessarily understand or appreciate if you approach it from a purely traditional perspective. I think a lot of people don't get it because they assume it should follow the rules of pop songwriting when it's fundamentally something very different. The good stuff isn't low effort but that can easily be missed by people who don't know what to listen for.

>>74089316
Literally nobody is systematically shitting on electronic music, stop with this victim complex. You're the anon that got super mad there isn't a big trance fanbase on this board, aren't you

there's nothing wrong with electronic music but there's definitely a different sound in a midi controller compared to a piano. synths in rock music are gay as fuck

>>74089768
probably AI Generated Musicians

>>74090663
>synths in rock music are gay as fuck
lol no

they're gay as fuck in Van Halen, but Van Halen were already gay as fuck

>>74090674
This, I can already see it, people complaining about "muh artistic value" and all that crap.

>>74089759
>midi can make music itself, it doesn't need someone with an ear an talent to make music out of it
That's what I read, fucking retard.

>>74090663
Depends, it's all about how well it blends with the other instruments, obviously 80s shit will be corny but a lot of artists can pull it off.

i become upset at the idea of electronics being used solely for repetitive 4/4 patterns over a synthpad

>>74089345
lmao @ you

>>74089453
plays a part for some people definitely, there's often not something for them to grab on to

>>74089655
>>74089655
>>74089655
this is the answer

there's a reason every time autotune comes up a normie will shake his head and talk about what a shame it is. the average person doesn't understand to what extent modern tools are used as crutches and what exactly "electronic" instruments can and can't do, and when somebody is actually doing something impressive with it vs playing some preset or lacks any skill

>>74089316
i don't hate it but i remember when listening to daft punk for the first time and being like "wow this guy is so good at piano" then i learned about arpegiators and all that bullshit, side changing and such and lost a lot of respect for electronic producers. sure they make good music, but they don't really impress me anymore.

>>74089471

underrated post.

>>74089316

I am selling one of those, if anyone's interested