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man, I'm 130 IQ (literally top 10% IQ world population)

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man, I'm 130 IQ (literally top 10% IQ world population) but I can't enjoy white clasical music, is so fucking boring.

Where do classical music becomes good?

Do I need to learn music theory?

I've tried to learn about music theory, read some begginer books, but I just don't find appealing classical music.

yes, I do think is complex, but is so completelly lacking of emotion.

I just can't feel emotion over masturbating over some inverted 9th chord while passing off some key to some modal greek mode while doing counterpoint to some second or third melodic line that imitates some dead obscure baroque composer while your bass does all these cool rifts from jazz and arpeggios from folk music while you use some harmony from atonality.

sure, I guess is cool to masturbate to that, but is so sterile and lacking of emotion, compared to pop music and videogame NES and SNES soundtrack.
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>>74069913
>man, I'm 130 IQ (literally top 10% IQ world population)
Yet you started a sentence incorrectly.
fuck off
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>>74069927
yeah, is not like english is my native language.
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why do you feel like you have to be forced to like classical music? all music is just 12 fucking notes (plus/minus octaves)

youre being an autist
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>>74069958
>muh art is only objective physical wavelengths

kys underage pseudo
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>>74069958
cuz he wants to be a crazy cool smart kid and seem cultured (even though you can do that just by listening to pop or traditional music as well)
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>>74069948
Excuses. just admit you're a dumbass. you've been exposed
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>>74069913
If you haven't found classical you like already, you're seriously not as bright as you think
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>>74070012
my english is still good enough to trick dumb ameritards I'm a dumb kid who didn't finished school than a non native.

>>74070028
I have a very specific taste in music, and I don't like 99% of music I hear.
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>>74070070
>I don't like 99% of music I hear.
i bet you're a fun person to be around
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>>74070070
What kind of music do you like? in my opinion classical is some of the most emotional music ever made, even though it's largely a wankfest
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>>74070100
I have a very specific taste.

>>74070112
I like melody, is the only thing I care.
I don't like music that doesn't focus on having a clear, well "catchy" popular melody.

There's a reason why popular music is extremelly generic and why they always play the same popular classical pieces over and over again, versus more challenging pieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvW9KQ5vu8Y
This is one example of orchestral music I like (is from a game).
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>>74069913
>boasting about 130
Lmao, I'm embarrassed for you
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>>74070198
is the top 10% of world population.
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>>74070163
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>>74070163
>it's a melody pleb
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>>74070233
>>74070246
>my tastes are better than your tastes
man, I just don't get it.

I try to listen to academical music and other types of music, but is so fucking boring, is like doing a chore.
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130 IQ is 2 standard deviations above the mean and IQ is normally distributed
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>>74070272
>try to listen to academical music and other types of music, but is so fucking boring,
if you don't like it then don't listen to it idiot. What's the point in listening to a specific genre if you can't appreciate it? the fact that you prefer vg soundtracks over classical/jazz is laughable
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>>74070272
>>my tastes are better than your tastes
how did you get that from roflmao

i just like laughing at you
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>>74070312
because snobs keep making fun off me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQR0bXO_yI8

I still listen to jazz and other types of music, not just weeb crap.

>>74070330
because every time I mention this to people, they keep making fun off me.
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>man, I'm 130 IQ (literally top 10% IQ world population)
Stop lying, I know we're on 4chan, but please, stop lying.
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>>74070537
It's the average on /sci/
the average on /lit/ is 135-140.
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>>74070350
>I still listen to jazz and other types of music, not just weeb crap.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQR0bXO_yI8
I don't mean to be rude, but if Sinatra is the most far you can go with jazz, then you're not really listening to jazz, that's all I'm saying. Please explore further.
>because snobs keep making fun off me
Then again, who cares what snobs think, or /mu/ for that matter, hell, even me?
Listen to whatever you want anon, just don't lie about your "IQ"
>>74070564
What would the one on /mu/ be?
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>>74070564
Where are you pulling these numbers from?
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>>74070670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cYt1fXdp5w
is this jazz?

I don't mind but I'm tired of being mocked IRL as well.

>>74070714
poll stats.
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>>74069913
here, listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXlo5CIyiGQ
spewing entry level theory terms indicates you're a music pleb
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>>74070112
>even though it's largely a wankfest
Just wait until you discover jazz. All wanking and noodling, I tell you.
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>>74070163
>I have a very specific taste
>Final Fantasy soundtrack
Well, at least we now know not to take you seriously or reply anymore for that matter.
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>>74070163
Here's something I think you'd enjoy
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ITT low-level bait and tards falling for it
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>>74069913
My IQ is 136~140, i'm at top 1%

Try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2SNcpTNbs
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>>74069913
Wasn't sure if that was bait or not until the last sentence.
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>>74070350
>because snobs keep making fun of me
You don't actually talk and spontaneously sperg out when taking to people? I suppose you're not talking to people in real life the way you see people talking on /mu/. At this point, if you're actually serious, that's looking more and more likely.
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>>74070772
pretty meh, sounds like noise with some faggot talking and some countermelody voice.

meh.

>>74070816
>>74070821
>muh tastes are superior
>let me post this music that is boring as fuck.
>snobs

>>74070821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCjJyiqpAuU
man, nursery rymes are goat.
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>third world redditor belives his IQ is 130 and the he's special for that
wew lad
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>>74070867
>muh tastes are superior
>one of the posters you replied to didn't mention a single album he enjoys
You're probably on a shitposting rampage on a Friday night while making ridiculous statements and you're wondering why people don't take you seriously. Not to mention that you started your thread with "man, I'm 130 IQ".
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>>74069913
Classical music is brimming with emotion. It's cliched, but you should check out the Ronantic stuff first.

Modest Mussogorsky's Pictures At An Exhibition is my recommendation to you. The theme is incredible, but The Great Gate of Kiev is the most uplifting and grand music this side of Germany
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>>74070843
meh, I don't feel nothing.

pretty cool I guess?
sounds like practice music for a college student.

>>74070863
I'm not an autist.

>>74070875
is the average IQ of STEM students.

>>74070904
It was initially for pol though.

>>74070910
some of bach stuff is impresive, but only at some intelectual level.

I don't listen a lot of music because most music bores me to death, at some physical level.
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>>74069913
The fact that you started off this thread by citing an IQ score and seem to believe IQ tests are good indicator of intelligence certifies you as a cunt.
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>>74070947
>It was initially for pol though
Apparently >>74070842 was correct. Just leave this thread people.
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>>74069958
>all music is just 12 fucking notes

t. Theodor Adorno

Go away, even fucking Hobsbawn thinks you're a hack.
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>>74070750
Alright, this is definitely bait
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>130
>4chan
Good try cuckadoodledoo, your average 90 if your visiting here, welcome, the exhaust pipe is not a breathing apparatus, enjoy your stay
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>>74070947
There is your problem. you are not sitting and listening to it all the way through, you just listen to a short part of it and then move on
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>>74069913
>I'm 130 IQ
you probably aren't actually 130 IQ. unless you got professionally tested, you're full of shit
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>>74070997
IQ is a MEME.
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>>74071049
I don't like to listen new music most of the time.
I always find myself repeating the same songs I like over and over again.
I can listen a song I like over and over again.

I could say I don't like most music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-P55m37hWk

but It seems my tastes triggers /mu/ faggots.
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>>74071107
>I don't like to listen new music most of the time.

Maybe you don't hear enough music
How many albums did you hear fully from this decade?
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I got professionally tested and scored 145 on the WAIS-IV when I was 18, AMA
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>>74071128
how does it feel to know that you try to justify your existence by a number someone else puts on you as opposed to things that actually matter?
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>>74071123
I could say I haven't listened to maybe more than 200 songs in my entire life.
maybe I could say I enjoy to listen less than 100 songs on average.

I could say I listen maybe a couple dozen songs every day.

I could name one or two songs from pretty much every genre.
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>>74070966
Why are you people still replying?
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>>74069913
>man, I'm 130 IQ (literally top 10% IQ world population)
Translation: I'm insecure about myself and only got an arbitrary number to base my whole identity on
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>>74071123
I listened an entire aerosmith album once.

couldn't tell apart a song from another song, they were generic as fuck.

and today I have forgotten about that album beyond being a chore to listen generic music.
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>>74071158
>200 songs
That's a really really low amount of music.

I have over 500 albums rated on my RYM account, tho in reality the number of albums i heard is in the thousands.

Explore more music anon
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>>74071206
from 10 new songs I listen, 7-8 can't finish them because I don't like them.

maybe 1-2 songs I will enjoy at best.

I could even say I don't like music in general.

I'm always open minded to listen to music, but most music is a fucking chore to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwH-srnIi0

I could post songs I like from pretty much a couple dozen genres I have listened.
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>>74071252
You lack patience anon. learn to sit through albums all the way through.

Here is a very interesting and unique album. try to sit all the way through it right now and understand what it tries to achieve musically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QfLpgntV8
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>>74071285
that sounds generic as fuck.

I just can't understand music.

sure, if some musician explains to me what's he's doing I will enjoy it more I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE

I like this song by example.

Ask me a genre and I will show you what songs I like.
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>>74071333
It's a 44 minutes long album.

You posted your opinion about the album 3 minutes after i made a post about it.

Do you really not see your problem?
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>>74071145
I don't, the only people that know are my parents
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>>74071364
give me one reason why I should listen to it rather than listen the music I enjoy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXTGOEEHX90

I only need a few seconds to know if the music has a strong melody or it's focus is on other stuff.

>needing more than a few seconds to know if a girl is hot
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>IQ 130
>only top 10% of the world

So basically there are literally hundreds of millions smarter than you, literally above average tier
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>>74071462
Because if you will never give a real, serious chance to new music, you will never expand your horizons and you will stay stuck in your little bubble forever.
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>>74071485
I just can't enjoy it.

sure, is interesting from an intelectual point of view and sure if a musician explains it to me is pretty meh.

but is like if the music lacks a soul, or lacks a hearth to me.

listening to a song that has not a focus on melody is like I can't understand it, and most of the time sounds generic to other songs of the same type.

Tell me a genre and I will show you a song I like from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

music needs to give me that emotional rush, that adrenaline I feel listening to a good melody.

is like heroin, you know?
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>>74070750
>fit
>131

ahahahahahahaha
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>>74071584
Try to think about music as a place. try to absorb the feeling and atmosphere the song creates.

Now please, sit through the album i gave you for more than 3 minutes and give it an honest chance. if you can't give it a real chance, don't complain that you stay stuck in the same bubble of music.

Here is the album again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QfLpgntV8
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>>74071584
If you are really serious go listen to some music, 200 songs in your lifetime is fucking pathetic
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>>74071584
listen to full albums. you will find one you like eventually. or don't, and miss out on what is truly amazing about music.
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>>74070750
This is 100% a real chart. doesn't look fake at all.
It's clearly very easy to test the IQ of random anonymous people through the internet
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>>74070750
Kek
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>>74069913
part of appreciation is knowing theory... but i don't at all think that you need to know it to appreciate - especially - classical music. pure music bro, just sit back and take it in (and that alone can ingrain some theory knowledge)
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>>74071647
man, is always the same crap with musictards.

oh, you haven't listened enough music, oh you're a pleb.

but they never make the effort to understand me.

sure, that album may seem interesting to a person who loves music and understand music theory.

but most of that music seems to lack that powerfull melody that gives me goosebums and put in a emotional states, as if it were some drugs.

>>74071664
I could say I have listened to some songs for literally hours by now.

I simply put a youtube song in a loop and I listen to it five to a dozen times.

that's how I enjoy music.

>>74071671
most albums are filled with filler bro.
At best one or two songs from an album is memorable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuRvFavz3QM
posting this time nightwish.
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>>74071732
Knowing theory has nothing to do with appreciating music as an artform.

When you look at a beautiful painting, you don't think "this painting is beautiful because of the color theory behind it", you just absorb the atmosphere and emotions the painting portrays.

It's the same thing with music
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>>74070969
what does hobsbawm have to do with this
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>>74071760
Enjoyment of music has NOTHING to do with music theory. and anyone who says otherwise is just misleading you.

see what i posted here >>74071768

Try to understand and absorb the musical ARTISTIC intentions of the music. the feeling it creates, the atmosphere it creates. how does it make you feel
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>>74071768
well, in part, i think it does. it provides one with a logic as to what exactly is occurring in a track.

and when i look at a painting, a lot of what i appreciate comes from good composition, palette, scene, etc. bad analogy anyway
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>>74071819
>>74071799
>>74071768
>>74071760
this bait is getting weird now
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>>74071799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6wSdTVFdDk

man, I keep showing you music I enjoy in every post but you keep ignoring that.

and yet, I have posted songs that ranges from irish traditional music, anime, jazz, classical, christian, games, latino music.

Asking again, tell me a genre and I'll post a song I like.
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>>74071844
you retarded son
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>>74069913
no you aren't dont lie to yourself, maybe you're just too aspie to understand emotions.
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>>74071819
The enjoyment from music is not based on logic or understanding what happens in the track mathematically.

What makes a song good or bad is what it makes the listener feel when he is listening to it. not how complicated or simple it is in terms of theory
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>>74071844
I didn't say I don't like music.

I said, I don't enjoy 99% of music because is boring shit.

posting this time salsa from panama.
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>>74071850
well why do you think something, like a given progression, provides one a kind of feeling? theory, bro (or even lack of conformation thereof)
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>>74071848
>>74071886
Listen to the album i gave you all the way through and get out of your musical safe zone.

You absolutely CANNOT judge the music in that album when you heard less than 3 minutes of it
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>>74071893
It's not because of theory anon. different people perceive things differently and find different things enjoyable.

Theory just describes what happens physically in the song.
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why would you masturbate to music?
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>>74071911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGtWWb9emYI

I don't need more than a minute to see if I will like it or not.

your album seems like all those generic indie albums hipsters enjoy.

you still haven't answered my question:

Name a genre and I will show you a song or two.
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>>74071980
>your album seems like all those generic indie albums hipsters enjoy.

It's actually prog rock/art rock with some metal in it

Maybe you needed more than a minute to judge it properly. especially considering the first song in the album changes DRAMATICALLY after the first minute.

You are really really dumb if you think you can judge a 44 minutes long album based on one minute
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>>74071980
dale
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>>74071760
>most albums are filled with filler bro.
t. someone who has only listened to 10 albums
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>>74071893
holy fuck dude... this is the most ignorant thing ive read in a loooong time.
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>>74072064
He also judged an entire 44 minutes long album i gave him after hearing it for only one minute
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>>74069913

Let me tell you a secret, dear op: music is about context. That's why you can hear a soundtrack and feel nothing but then watch the movie/game/whatever from where it's from and then feel it's now the tightest shit ever.

So to like classical music, you have to live the classical life. That might be like changing from being a bird to become a fish. You have to become another person, another being, just to apreciate a completely different style of music - a life style.

...Or you can just use drugs. I recommend DMT, you will aprecciate EVERYTHING on this shit.
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>>74072042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCAht19XC8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OeHrNdK43E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEja72NSg5Q

Some metal/rock shit I enjoy.

>>74072064
>>74072127
most albums are filled with hours of filler music and most albums only have one or two singles hit.

>progressive rock
so, indie crap made by some obscure garage band in the middle of scandinavia only other hispters enjoy.

nice.
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>>74072072
haha bro just stfu
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>>74072161
1. You said you heard only 200 songs in your entire life. That amounts to around 20 albums. on what basis are you saying "most albums are just filler with one or two hits"???????????

2.
>so, indie crap made by some obscure garage band in the middle of scandinavia only other hispters enjoy.

Maudlin Of The Well are actually an avant-garde metal band from the US. this particular album just barely has any metal in it, unlike the rest of their discography
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>>74072210
just stop responding
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>>74072210
everytime I try to listen to some album is generic shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsINANZ6Riw

99% of the music I listen is generic.

>avant garde metal
so metal for hispters.

do u like linkin park?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
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>>74072272
Assuming you took an official test, I have 1 more IQ than you and my taste isn't this bad.

Also, 131 is 98 percentile.
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>>74072272
It's a 44 minutes long album.
You admitted you heard only 1 minute from the album. yet you judge the album and call it "generic".

You literally only heard 2% of the album. i'm sorry to tell you anon, but you cannot judge a piece of music when you heard only 2% of it.

You are a really dumb person if you can't see the flaws in your argument. or maybe you are just 12 years old. it's one or the other
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>>74069913
I laugh at you brainlets
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>>74072309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TGKJ9MgCOQ

I guess handel is shit then.

>>74072326
I only need to listen to a few seconds of music to see if It has a strong vocal melody focus.

I still listen beethoven nine symphony, am I a non pleb now?
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>>74072378
Fine anon, keep being retarded and keep making retarded arguments.

Bye, i'm done wasting my time here.
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>>74072136
>So to like classical music, you have to live the classical life. That might be like changing from being a bird to become a fish. You have to become another person, another being, just to apreciate a completely different style of music - a life style.
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>>74072419
so you're like all the musictards I talk about and keep insulting me because I find listening to music for hours boring?
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>>74072469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlprozGcs80

they keep assuming I haven't try to listen to classical music or I hate clasical music.

I dunno, maybe I don't like music, who knows.
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>>74072472
What you did is much worse than that.

First of all the piece of music i shared with you was 44 minutes long, not hours long.

Second of all, you judged the entire 44 minutes long album based on one minute, even after i told you the album dramatically changes after the first minute.

This is the album we are talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QfLpgntV8

It goes through a dramatic change almost exactly one minute after the album starts.

If, even after knowing that the album goes though dramatic changes, you still think you can judge this entire album based on it's first minute, you are exceptionally stupid.
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>>74070163
>video game music
damn, a real intellectual
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OP is just a angsty teenager who can't comprehend other people's feelings, has a short attention span and thinks the world revolves around having a high IQ

Music is not about having a fucking status you autist.
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>>74070843
this is proto-pop, not classical music
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>>74072541
I listened to bits of other parts, seems like they have diferent genres in it.

but it sounds so generic, like music you listen as background in some elevator or at the supermarket.

I dunno why but listening to new music makes me physically seek.
right now I feel dizzy.

>>74072552
any reason why videogames can't have good music?
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>>74072541
How does it feel having wasted this much time on this sponge. I feel stupid for having lurked through all of this shit. You should leave op to stew in his own indolence.
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>>74072654
It's not generic. there isn't any other album i know about that sounds quite like it.

If you want give it an honest try, go for it.
If you don't want to try it, don't try it.

But next time, don't judge entire albums based on one fucking minute. i hope you learned your lesson
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>>74072692
>>74072711
man, It sounds like shit I can't whistle or hum while being at the park.

pretty meh.
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>>74072706
>You should leave op to stew in his own indolence.
I think you are right. i already told him pretty much everything i had to say.
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>>74072765
and I keep showing you I can't enjoy music I can't whistle.

other music is simply music I can't understand.
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>classical has no emotion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiMUKWoefv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Trzglemag8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvSOdxNQ1hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsJA2geMA9s
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All music is trash. Anyone who listens to music is an idiot. How can you derive any pleasure from listening to a random combination of sounds? What are you, a bunch of primitive savages? I can understand why people were listening to music centuries ago, when humanity wasn't nearly as developed as it currently is, but why would you waste your time on such a meaningless activity today? Do something actually productive or intellectually challenging instead, for fuck's sake.
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I am in possession of an IQ that is confirmed within the higher 160-170 register. I have experimented with how music affects both mind and spirit. I have cultivated listening to be my apex sense.

The only way to truly encapsulate the enjoyment of music in simplified subsequent steps:
acquire tennis ball
acquire tape
acquire headphones or earbuds if you're a plebeian
acquire recliner chair
acquire lamp
acquire joyous melodies
slice tennis ball in half
attach strips of tape on the sides of your set of half balls
turn on lamp
sit down in recliner chair but DO NOT RECLINE just yet
put on headphones/earbuds
start up the joyous melodies
tape sliced tennis balls over each eye
recline and look at the lamp

This is it, you can reach musical enlightenment too. You can take this journey and free yourself from the confines of your impaired listening experience.

A joyous melody for your time and patience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnJMuZ3F5oQ
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