what are the objective top five hip hop albums of all time? fuck

>>74011827
madvillainy, to pimp a butterfly, illmatic, it takes a nation of millions to hold us back, enter the wu tang

quality wise Biggie made the perfect rap album at 22, and Mobb Deep deserve a spot as well

fucking fight me

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de la soul is pretty great. try buhloone mind state

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You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

Paul's Boutique has gotta be on there.

>>74011919
>fucking fight me
for what those boring as fuck cliche answers you gave?

>>74012028
>having white jews anywhere in an all time hiphop top 5

i like the beastie boys but kys

>>74011827
Aquemini

>>74011827
Nas - Illmatic
Kanye West - The College Dropout
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
Eminem - The Eminem Show

Judging by lyrics, production, consistency, and just being all-around quality projects in every area

>>74011898
Holy shit that's a good list. Maybe replace wu tang with ready to die and you have a perfec list

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Why not Top 25?

1. Kendrick Lamar - DAMN. (2017)
2. Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Pinata (2014)
3. Uncle Murda - The First 48 (2013)
4. Tyler, The Creator - Bastard (2009)
5. NWA - Straight Outta Compton (1988)
6. Fredo Santana - It's A Scary Site (2012)
7. SpaceGhostPurrp - Mysterious Phonk: The Chronicles of SpaceGhostPurrp (2012)
8. Lil Yachty - Teenage Emotions (2017)
9. Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane (1988)
10. Tech N9ne - Something Else (2013)
11. DMX - Flesh of My Flesh Blood of My Blood (1998)
12. SpaceGhostPurrp - Blvcklvnd Rvdix 66.6 (1991) (2011)
13. Gudda Gudda - Guddaville (2009)
14. Kitty Pryde - Frostbite (2014)
15. Eminem - The Eminem Show (2002)
16. Syringe - Anti-World (2016)
17. Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)
18. Maxo Kream - Maxo 187 (2015)
19. Lil Wayne - Tha Block Is Hot (1999)
20. Common - Resurrection (1994)
21. Westside Gunn - Hitler On Steroids (2017)
22. Lil Uzi Vert - The Real Uzi (2014)
23. Nas & Ill Will Records - QB's Finest (2000)
24. T-Wayne - Who Is Rickey Wayne? (2015)
25. A$AP Ferg - Ferg Forever (2014)

This is objectively true.

in order:

Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light
Madvillainy
Liquid Swords
Capital Punishment
The Cold Vein

>>74011827
>objective
Y'all really don't know what that word means, huh

>>74012100
i know this is bait, but fuck you

>>74012100
>teenage emotions
Wtf

>>74012160
Objectivity is a valid unattainable aspiration and there's nothing inherently wrong with discussing it.

>>74012072
>this mad that white jews outdid the creators of the genre

>>74011827
Retards
Attempting
Poetry

>>74012095
Mm..food and madvillainy are better than anything Eminem has done

all these people saying tpab when it isn't even kendrick's best

>>74012294
DOOM never changes up his lazy flow and his super villain persona is much cornier than Em's edgy white boy persona, same with the lyrics on Mm...Food?

>>74012028
I agree.

>>74012095
>Eminem - The Eminem Show
Slim Shady is better.

>>74011827

Doggystyle is easily in there

I'd say Enter the Wu-Tang, Illmatic, The Infamous, Livin' Proof, Violent By Design.

>>74013822
Underrated as fuck my man

>>74011930
really their best album to me by far

>one of my fave hip hop albums ever

>>74013822
"i hope you can unstick yourself"

>>74011827
Deletion 3030: amazing production by Dan, and Del at peak performance with some of the best flows of all time. Not to mention the dope ass space fantasy epic storyline.

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You guys need to educate yourselves

If you have Kendrick anywhere near your top 10 you are definitely someone who started listening to hip hop post 2010

Enter The Wu Tang
Illmatic
Ready To Die
Doggystyle
Paul's Boutique
It takes a nation
Fear of a Black Planet
The Diary
Paid In Full
Muddy Waters
ATLiens
The Chronic
Aquemini
2001
Liquid Swords
OB4CL
Miseducation
AEOM
Black on Both Sides
Bizarre Ride
Straight Outta Compton
Supreme Clientele
Deltron 5050
It's Dark and Hell is Hot
Midnight Mauraders
Low End Theory
Reasonable Doubt

All of these are better than any Kendrick album

If you include Kendrick or Eminem on your top 10 list (Eminem is more acceptable), you're just a victim of Interscope Jimmy Iovine marketing onslaught of "GOAT" rappers.

>>74014746
*3030 lol

http://www.albumoftheyear.org/genre/3-hip-hop/all/pitchfork/

It's no coincidence that /mu/ (or more likely shills) rank TPAB, GKMC, and MBDTF so highly. Literally memed how great they were til people accepted.
>Yeezus in the top 25 hip hop albums of all time
It's like you plebs don't understand what paying people off for good reviews is.

>>74011827

TOP 10 HIP HOP ALBUMS OF ALL TIME:

It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
3 Feet High and Rising
Endtroducing...
To Pimp a Butterfly
Paul's Boutique
Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
Straight Outta Compton
Stankonia
Fear of a Black Planet

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>Madvillainy is a top 5 rap album

>>74014746
Straight outta compton over 100 miles... what gives

>>74014662
We Got It From Here is such a good fucking album. Will I like their other shit?

>>74015239
Just using those albums as an example

I would agree, 100 miles is superior but SOC is a landmark album in cultural importance and influence. I like Efil4zaggin more than SOC too

>>74015249
Yes. All of it.

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quick chart I made of my favorites
boom bap is boring and stale as hell desu

>>74015249
You will love it man. enjoy, I wish I could listen to it all for the first time again.

>>74014662
Found it to sound quite dated when last listened to it.

>>74014746
>Lewronggeneration

There's a lot of good rap past the 90s and early 2000s.

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This is my personal top 9.
Maybe We like it here... should be in there.

>>74015447
>Implying
Those are just landmark albums of the past. Name some of these albums.
If you fucking say Madvillainy

I like Kanye's 2000s stuff, not a fan of Eminem so I can't say much about him.

Basically any of Ghostface's output is good.

Carter I and II, Trap muzik, Lost Tapes.

I'm sorry that hip hop was better in what's been called "The golden era"?

>>74015481
>Malibu
Good lad, though I wouldn't have it near the conversation personally.

>>74015489
>If you fucking say Madvillainy
Kek, it will always be mentioned here. But the guys got a point, dismissing anyone that likes Kendrick is dumb. GKMC is and will be remembered as a classic, that's by people in the 90s and everyone since.

>>74015510
I think an album should have a waiting time before classic is thrown around. We're in the age where everything is a classic, which isn't possible. As soon as an album was released "classic".

Yeezus "Classic"
Views "Classic"
TPAB "Classic"

I'm sick of it, and it makes it much harder to form an opinion on something when it's being shoved down your throat how good it is. That's marketing, that's not actual criticism. It's like movies. "X movie is so good" and it's just another blockbuster turd. Lots of people pay to go see Fast and the Furious and their endless sequels and rate them highly. I disagree with them, I think it's shit.

Is GKMC a classic? Yeah, probably, but it's not a top 10 hip hop album. That is an incredibly vast claim, and it implies you have knowledge of hip hop and it's history, and you can listen to all that and STILL say GKMC is a top 10 album, or TPAB. I don't buy it. You (being a general term) just haven't listened to a lot of hip hop.

I would say XXX is a classic. Live Love ASAP is a near-classic. Are they top 10 in terms of the whole of Hip hop? Fuck no.

Madvilliany
College Dropout
Midnight Maruders
Aquemini
Enter the Wu Tang

Paul's boutique, TPAB or Illmatic could also take a spot, as well as most doom albums or outkast albums

>>74015565
GKMC is basically one of the albums of an entire generation. Views, XXX, Yeezus, TPAB and Live Love ASAP (and I bump the last two a lot) - none of these had anywhere near the same general acclaim and replay worldwide across people in their teens to mid-20s. Five years later and, this is anecdotal, if I go out to a house party or out and someone plays something from GKMC (even Art of Peer Pressure or Real), everyone knows the lyrics even the words to the skits. It sold a fuck ton in its first week and got robbed of a Grammy. If there's any rap album this decade worth calling a classic, it's that.

>>74015249
Yes. IMO We Got It From Here is their best, but you'll like their other stuff as well, especially Midnight Marauders.

>>74011827
I was with you when you said Wu and Illmatic, then you went full retard, madvillainy nigger? Kendrick? Fucking Kanye? In the top 5? Are you drunk or just underage?

If it doesn't have at least 1 Deathrow Records album it isn't a top 5 list at all.

>>74015658
>GKMC is basically one of the albums of an entire generation
Only because this generation is shit. GKMC would have been average and largely overlooked in the 90s.

Gang Starr - Daily Operation is top 5 permanently

>>74012096
>replace wu-tang

Da fuk? That's the best on the list. Replace Public Enemy, they've aged horribly.

>>74011827
Madvillainy
36 Chambers
The Low End Theory
The College Dropout
Endtroducing

Enter the wu tang
Dr. Octagonocologyst
Funcrusher plus
Aquemini
Low end theory

** honourable mentions **
The miseducation of Lauren hill
3 feet high and rising
The college dropout
Slim shady LP
Liquid swords

>>74015803
sorry that your influential, dated albums have so much filler

>>74016641
I have to agree with this guy, most older hip-hop albums have a lot of filler, and hip-hop as a genre has a tendency to age faster than other genres, and a lot of older albums have filler, even in the best ones like 36 chambers

>>74012096
>replace wu-tang
"no"

>>74015823
No it wouldn't. If it was released in the 90s it wouldn't blown everything else away because no 90s hip hop record had the kind of production depth that GKMC did and only a small handful of 90s rappers match up to Kendrick's technical diversity in flow and delivery.

What do people here think about Cold Vein?

>>74016709
Totally agree, I see people say that shit way too often, but the only album that comes close to the depth, honesty and storytelling from that time is Illmatic and maybe Ready To Die

OP here, so I think we can all agree that enter the wu tang is objectively in the top 5, what else do we KNOW is top 5. Don't say your favorite obscure album just for /mu/ cred or a filler ridden album that hasn't aged well just because its a "classic," lets find the most consistent albums that stay at a high level throughout the entire listen and still hold up today. I'd argue illmatic, it's short and to the point, no filler

Alright, I made a poll to settle this:

http://poal.me/iva1sn
http://poal.me/iva1sn
http://poal.me/iva1sn

If you want any other albums listed, let me know

>>74017017
why is damn on there instead of MAAD city?

cLOUDDEAD
36 Chambers
Madvillainy
Endtroducing...
Low End Theory

>>74017017
lets get good kid MAAD city on there, college dropout, MBDTF, midnight marauders, 6 feet deep

>>74011827
>>74016790
autistic piece of shit, leave my board

>>74017050
>cLOUDDEAD
is this considered hip hop?

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>>74012095
>Eminem

>>74017017
How're you going to have DAMN there and not GKMC?

>>74012015
That man gets it.

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Here you go, OP

>>74012100
grant go home, dont you have to manage a walmart or something

>>74011827

Personal top 5:

Midnight Marauders
The Low End Theory
Bizarre Ride II
Madvillainy
MBDTF

a perfect circle

>>74011827
if doom's album is in your top 5 you're closeted

>>74017721
Facts. You're either underage, white or both.

>>74017731
>Unironically using white as an insult
Wew lad

>>74017721
I said possibly, it's around there in terms of straight quality though. The only album I'm 100% sure is top five is 36 Chambers, the greatest hip hop album of all time.

My personal list would be:

cLOUDDEAD
Madvilliany
Any DG Album
The Cold Vein
Endtroducing/PB/Donuts

While the objective list would be:

36 Chambers
Illmatic
Slim Shady LP/Marshall Mathers
Ready to Die
GKMC or MBDTF

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>>74017751
Wasn't insulting anyone, just airing out the truth.

>>74017091
Not that anon, but I'd consider it a mix of ambient and experimental/psychedelic hip hop.

>>74012015
Personally my favorite album of all time, absolutely NO filler. Something seems wrong putting it in the top 5 hip hop albums though

>>74017731
I'm of age, black and latino, have a Doom album in my top 5. It's not Madvillainy, though.

>>74017829
Send It Up disqualifies it from being top anything

>>74017869
Song is mad underrated

>>74017911
It's trash

>>74015400
this fucker right here got that KOOPSTA KNICCA TAPE

man i wanna dap u up right now, you got taste man

No Geto Boys or Scarface? Fuck all y'all

>>74017974
But are they objective top 5? Didn't think so

>>74012126
>>74016202
>>74017050
These are great personal picks, my top 5 would probably be:

Labor Days
Endtroducing
Dr. Octagonecologyst
Beauty and the Beat
Liquid Swords

Although I'll admit that most wouldn't qualify for an "objective" top 5

>>74017974
Cunninlynguists deserve mention too.

>>74011827

Aquemini
The Money Store
Enter the Wu Tang
Good Kid Mad City
Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots

>>74017986
No album deserves a spot reserve for top 5 besides Illmatic

One 80s, two 90s, one 2000s, one 2010s - that's the format

1. It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
2. Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
3. Illmatic
4. Madvillainy
5. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

That's as objective a list as I can get

>>74018052
and 36 Chambers

>>74018088
I like it

This really gets to the heart of how limited people on this board's knowledge of music is, the sheer number of albums and artists y'all ain't even mentioned and the fact you have an INSTRUMENTAL hip-hop album on here ahead of rap. Bye

>>74016701
>>74016132
Don't get me wrong wu tang is fucking awesome but IMO ready to die is just better. Plus I find that it takes a nation is so ahead of its time. Like listen to how bone dry criminal minded is and then listen to it takes a nation. They are worlds apart in quality and it takes a nation is still a great listen.

>>74018093
No. Easily replaceable with Tribe or NWA

1. Illmatic
2. Run D.M.C.
3. Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
4a. Straight Out of Compton
4b. All Eyez on Me
5a. No Love Deep Web
5b. 3 'N the Morning: Part Two

>>74018117
What would you put as objective top 5 in rap? We're not talking about personal favorites so it's obviously going to be a bunch of well known albums.

The lack of people not listing Illmatic ATLEAST in their top 5 makes my mind boggle.

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>>74011827
>what are the objective top five hip hop albums of all time?

>Public Enemy: It Takes A Nation Of Millions (Def Jam, 1988)
>cLOUDDEAD: cLOUDDEAD (2001)
>Erik B & Rakim: Paid In Full (1987)
>Dalek: Negro Necro Nekros (1998)
>Wu Tang Clan: Enter the Wu-Tang (1993)

>>74018196
Post em then

6 feet deep is really underrated for how much more consistent it is than most hip hop "classics"

>>74018219
>Enter the Wu-tang
>7/10
>mbdtf
>7.5/10
What did Scaruffi mean by this?

>>74017989
Coolest top 5 so far

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>>74018223
I'll post pictures of your mom's holes

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Britfags can rap too ya know

>>74018450
I love this album but even I'll admit he can't rap

>>74018450
This is the only track of theirs I've heard, on an old XFM show. It's fun, I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAIHDGghP4

>>74015823
You're so wrong it hurts. I stopped listening to hip hop in '09 after well over a decade of it being my primary genre and in the last year I've been on a huge binge of stuff that came out since.
GKMC is better than a great deal of accepted classics and you're painfully blinded by nostalgia.

>>74015565
Views is fucking TERRIBLE. I never heard people discuss it as a "classic," have you really heard people throw that word around with that album?

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Vanilla Ice - To the Extreme
Joaquin Phoenix - Untitled
Beck - The Information
Shaquille O'Neal - Shaq Diesel
Vanilla Ice - Mind Blowin'

>>74018450
i am listening to this then i come across this haha

>>74012488
Thanks

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>>74011827
>Endtroducing
>Madvilliany
>Run the Jewels 3
>To Pimp a Butterfly
>Illmatic

>>74015565
I agree that people and critical consensus are too quick to jump on an album's dick and call it a classic, but I don't really buy that we're not able to assess an album that came out 5 years ago and whether it deserves that status. People are just as well acquainted with that album as they are with 90's classics at this point. Pretty much the only thing that remains to be seen is just how influential the album is as time goes on, and I personally view that as a shitty way to measure quality (say if Velvet Underground and Nico, or Illmatic, or *insert one of your favorite albums here* had been left in a drawer and never released and was discovered and released TODAY, do you really think it'd be a worse album because it never influenced anything?)

Only built for Cuban linx
Illmatic
Reasonable doubt
Madvillainy
Money store

>>74012260
Retreat
Approaching
Pol

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This is top 2 at least

>>74018699
Hit the nail on the head my dude. Influence can help an album become a "classic" but an album doesn't need it to be considered great. My way of determining a classic is simple. If it is bold, unique, and great then it is most likely a classic.

Rodeo
Late Registration
To pimp a butterfly
The low end theory
Vaudeville Villain
These are objectively the best 5 rap albums

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>>74011827
Mine personally.
1. Dr. Dre - 2001.
2. Cypress Hill - III Temples Of Boom.
3. The Pharcyde - The Bizarre Ride II.
4. EL-P - I'll Sleep When You're Dead.
5. MF Doom - MMM... Food.

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That David Bowie one where Mickey Rourke raps and it's such a good song it takes up five slots OBJECTIVELY

>>74018818
>Rodeo
>To pimp a butterfly

>>74019307
>rodeo
yes motherfucking rodeo,the best album of all time

>>74019325
to a total dumbass, maybe

>Kanye anywhere near top 5
Christ you people suck

>>74019395
t.listens to indietrash

>>74019463
t. fantano cuck

>>74019476
>fantano cuck
He only gave rodeo an 8

>>74014746
This is the best hiphop list I've seen on /mu/. Only thing that's missing is Pete Rock & CL Smooth. Kanye and Kendrick struck a chord with millennials for some reason but they lack talent and have no place being listed next to the greats of the 90s and late 80s.

The Low End Theory
Ronald Dregan
College Dropout
Enter The Wu-Tang
The World Is Yours

>>74018142
I can support Tribe being top five, but rating anything from NWA above 36 Chambers? That's a push

>>74018658
Shaq unironically has some decent tracks to his name

How about this – one album from every year 1987-2016:

1. Eric B. & Rakim – Paid in Full
2. Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
3. The Beastie Boys – Paul’s Boutique
4. Ice Cube – AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted
5. A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory
6. Dr. Dre – The Chronic
7. The Wu-Tang Clan – Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
8. Nas – Illmatic
9. Genius/GZA – Liquid Swords
10. DJ Shadow – Endtroducing
11. Company Flow – Funcrusher Plus
12. OutKast – Aquemini
13. Mos Def – Black on Both Sides
14. Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP
15. Jay-Z – The Blueprint
16. The Streets – Original Pirate Material
17. Nujabes – Metaphorical Music
18. Madvillain – Madvillainy
19. CunninLynguists – A Piece of Strange
20. J Dilla – Donuts
21. Blu & Exile – Below the Heavens
22. The Beat Konducta – The Dil Cosby Suite
23. Chef Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx…Pt. II
24. Kanye West – My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
25. Shabazz Palaces – Black Up
26. Death Grips – The Money Store
27. Run the Jewels – Run the Jewels
28. Freddie Gibbs & Madlib – Piñata
29. Kendrick Lamar – To Pimp a Butterfly
30. Danny Brown – Atrocity Exhibition

>>74011827
Illmatic
Pinata
Paul's Boutique
MBDTF
Vaudevill Villain

>>74019698
Shaq moronically

>>74018450

and this isn't even the best album! Decent rec but should have gone for original pirate materials

The Mitchell Brothers dropped a golden album with Skinner production also

>>74015434
If by dated you mean it lacks trap beats and auto-tune, then yes, it's very dated. And that's a good thing.

>>74017829
dude same here man, Yeezus is my favorite in his discography and I consider it a 10/10, but I never like to put it in my hip-hop lists. I don't even like to call it a classic either because I don't see it being influential in any way. It's more of a cult classic

>>74019614
>Pete Rock & CL Smooth
My man

Where would you guys rank AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted and Death Certificate?

>>74019726
>not starting from 1977
1. Grand Wizard Theodore & Mean Gene - 3rd Ave. Ballroom 1977
2. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Four MCs - Live at the Jackson Projects
3. Funky Four Plus One More - Rappin' and Rockin' the House
4. Sugarhill Gang - Sugarhill Gang
5. Kurtis Blow - Deuce
6. Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - The Message
7. Various Artists - Wild Style
8. Run-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C.
9. Schooll-D - Schoolly-D
10. Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill

your list is good for the rest

>>74020157
Good call, though I would probably have
1984: The Fat Boys - The Fat Boys
1985: LL Cool J - Radio
1986: Run-DMC - Raising Hell

>>74020256
I guess I put Schoolly-D for the historical significance (it's influence on gangsta rap can't be overstated), but quality-wise I would agree that Radio probably belongs.

5 Death Grips albums :^)

>>74012057
Found the triggered kanye fag

This is about objective quality not who can jerk the most unique pick out of their scrotums

>>74020157
>>74020256

No love for Cameo? Show Cameo some love my dudes

>>74020407
aren't they a disco band? I've never heard their association with hip-hop.

>>74020104
ice cube should be in top 10. but we're all girls, your mommy sucks my tits

>>74017869
SHE SAID CAN YOU GET MY FRIENDS IN THE CLUUUBBBB

>>74017869
>not liking Send It Up
I SAID CAN YOU GET MY BENZ IN THE CLUB

>>74015400
God those fucking album covers have not aged well at all. They're great to listen to but the cover art is cringe worthy on most of them.

>>74019726
Will I like Danny Browns new album if I liked XXX?