/prod/

new to recording/production here

I'm looking to buy an audio interface to record music one-by-one multitrack from my synth into some yet-to-be-determined DAW to be digitally mixed and made into songs.

my budget is small...

I'm thinking either Focusrite Scarlett Solo 2nd Gen or Steinberg UR-22.
the UR22 looks good because it has MIDI meaning I won't have to buy another seperate thing to sequence my synthesizer. However it only has two XLR inputs and I'm only really familiar with 1/4 inch type sounds. My synth has an XLR output, but I usually use the 1/4 inch so that I can run it through effects pedals.

So is it a good idea to convert 1/4 in to XLR using some kind of converter? how much will that cost?

>>74004406

The UR22 does have TRS inputs, they're the big hole in the middle of the XLR input.

>So is it a good idea to convert 1/4 in to XLR using some kind of converter?

Never do that in a live setup, but it's decent enough unless there's shit wiring on your room

>how much will that cost?

10 bucks

https://clyp.it/22h3eqrw
how bad is this?

>>74004574
great seems like the obviously better option then.

have you any experience with either?
I don't really want to spend more than $150 at this point and two mic inputs + midi I/O seems like a great deal. but obviously quality comes first, no latency or clipping or issues...

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Made a fucked up hip-hop snippet today. Is this just shit, or a bit interesting? Mixed it in dual-mono.

https://clyp.it/04kunznk

>>74004682
this doesn't do much for me, what do you want to achieve? the middle section is more interesting than the beginning, which is too repetitive. also, why is it in mono? might become more powerful if you widen it.

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https://soundcloud.com/jormangod/mybestsounds

HOT FIRE LIT ASS FUCKING BEAT

no bass no drums just main sound

>>74005437
Im the next kanye west
I am the next ! KANYE WEST !

Thoughts about this?

https://clyp.it/rloyeajm

>>74004682
too washed out to get a good picture of all the tiny things
>>74005069
if you could lower the level, sounds pretty dope
>>74005857
need more bass but sound pretty good so far


https://clyp.it/edo3sip4
I suck at making electronic music, i should just stick to analog

i made a synth pop lol

https://clyp.it/pdnuyqlh

>>74005857
cool drums

>>74005966
Hmm what are you listening to it on cause theres no problems with bass on my end?

>>74006296
buy more bass, i meant more bass line, or more bass layers

>>74006350
Oooo im with you now, na im probs gonna leave it like it is, sparse but groovy.

someone posted an ableton crack the other day but i'm stupid and couldn't get it to work. do i have to uninstall ableton and put it in before it's set up? i was leaning towards ableton because i found a ton of online tutorials and it seems like a good daw but i can't save anything because my pirated version isn't activated

>>74006969
Get lite, only 8 tracks but youll be free of annoyances.

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Hey /prod/. So I'm in the process of transferring cassette recordings from my 4 track to my DAW, and I'm trying to mitigate noise. I know you will always have some noise with an analog medium like cassette tapes, but I've already got a problem with a shitty noise floor with my audio interface, so the recording in my DAW has a bunch of jank digital noise on top of the noise from the tape.

I do have izotope rx 4, so the denoiser can get rid of all that shitty hum and noise. But this obviously effects the eq of the recording, and it sounds muffled and boxy with no definition.

Can I just look at the spectrum analyzer of the denoiser and boost the frequencies being cut to compensate? Boosting the eq around 2k as an experiment already makes it sound more normal. Anybody have any similar experiences with digitizing cassettes and or just dealing with noise removal in general?

>>74007060
And this is the reason analog is a thing of the past.

>>74006969
Install

Replace the program in the folder with the cracked version provided

Run key gen

Haven't had any problems yet. I fucking love the new simpler and I regret not upgrading sooner. Seems to be smooth

>>74007210
That's not the reason. He just has a shitty interface and got into cassettes because he thought that's what "tape" is

>>74007060
Just try the boosts or upgrade your shit. That's all you can do

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JS Bach inspired reggaeton.

https://clyp.it/3gjgg4aq
It repeats after 2:30. Would appreciate feedback.

>>74007289
But why do people still use tape when there are computers (apart from trying to be cool and hip by reccing in tape)?

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OMNISPHERE EDITION

>tell stories about Omnisphere experiences
>share tracks you made with Omnisphere
>discuss pros/cons of Omnisphere
>let others in on secret Omnisphere tricks you discovered

So, you ever do any cool shit in Omnisphere?

when you play a non-diatonic chord are you considered out of key?

>>74007410
Workflow possibly but I think that's stupid as well

Hipster cool factor

There is desirable saturation and "warmth." You can absolutely emulate it and pretty much nobody can tell the difference, but if you can afford it why not just do the real thing lol.

(The above goes for pretty much all analog gear with a few exceptions where analog emulation just isn't there yet and some exactl emulations of popular gear don't sound exactly like their counterparts)

>>74007572
Yes anything outside of the scale is not considered diatonic

>>74007597
thank you. I'm always afraid of going out of key because I think I'll fuck everything up

>>74007683
I think in terms of modulation so I don't have to call it a "mistake" :)

Makes things more interesting

https://clyp.it/uadcgghr

i made this loop but i cant seem to place any drums to it they all just sound shit, any tips?

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https://clyp.it/rczco4s4

Should I put a melody on this?

how does Clarence Clarity do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLb-FJWFeLU

>>74007913
>https://clyp.it/uadcgghr
the loop isn't even, notice how the clicks are about 2 seconds apart, except the first and middle ones are about 3 seconds? you can account for hat in a drum pattern, but you can also just make it even.

How is my rapping voice? This song was a joke but I've been thinking of getting into it just wondering what you guys thought of my voice and the flow, just listen to the first person thats me

https://clyp.it/e2dc1ndf

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>>74007289
>>74007410
>>74007597
It is workflow. I have hardware keyboards, and I'm more of a player than a producer. Working in my DAW is just uninspiring and I also feel like I have an infinite amount of options which is daunting and prevents me from getting any work done. Limitations spur creativity and force me to start working and stop being a perfectionist. The immediacy and tangibility of the 4 track feels a lot more natural to me.

I know that the "tape" (You) were referring to is pic related and that cassette tapes pail in comparison, but I'm not about to buy a reel to reel anytime soon. There are plenty of emulations out there, but I enjoy the musical effects that you can get with cassettes like making physical tape loops, reversing things, and fucking with the tape speed and thus the pitch of your recordings. All of these things are much more immediate with a 4 track than producing these effects with a DAW. Cassettes aren't hi-fi, and I am by no means an audiophile, but it still has a different sound than digital. To each his own tho

>>74008270
Your voice is not bad but you're kinda boring to listen to. It's too monotone.

>>74004875

I had a 2i2 which is similar to the Solo and had a couple of problems with the drivers. I've been told that the newer generations are really great though. I can't tell you any experiences about the UR22 because I never tried it, but a friend of mine told me it was great enough for tracking vocals and recording guitar.

>>74008270
pretty dope dude

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how this:

https://clyp.it/npl0qhip

>>74008480
8-9 minutes too long desu. I think you have to have a stronger lead melody over this or some more prominent lead vocals.

>>74008480
>>74008588
If you do want the track to be a little longer, I would recommend repeating the same idea with a key change. You get more mileage out of an idea that way

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https://clyp.it/ql4dpcc5

how do i take this idea and make it more interesting/listenable? like i like it but i just feel like its missing something or that its too boring

>>74004406
Have you tried working with vst synths yet just to get used to DAWs? You can do a fuck ton of stuff without spending a cent.

>>74008480
>song is another song slowed down
what is this shit.

I'n getting back into making music and found my old version of Massive doesn't work anymore. Is it worth looking into another synth? I tried out Zebra which was pretty neat.

>>74008797
I'd add a lead melody or lyrics if possible.

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Too minimal to be complete?

https://clyp.it/rkltccgi

>>74008921
it's vaporwave :^)

>>74004875
i have a ur22 and it is pretty good ive only used it to record guitar though i have no hardware synths yet

How important is it to have a good interface?
I got a sm58 but no interface. I'm tempted to buy the cheapest piece of shit I can find but I'm wondering if it'd be smarter to save up for a couple of months and getting something of quality.

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Posted a while back and made some changes based off advice from other anons here. wondering if anyone could lend another ear to the track.

https://clyp.it/xwpudha3

is it true no one gives a fuck about your track until you put some vocals on it?

>>74007060
What brand/model is your interface? Any interface that adds that much noise isn't even worth existing. Are you sure you're giving it a loud enough signal going into it from the get-go and aren't feeding it a quiet signal and then amplifying it after the fact?

>>74010945
Nah, no one gives a shit after you do either.

>>74010982
but what if they're good?

>>74011029
Somebody might actually give a fuck with some luck.

this is gonna be the base for a song as of now
>tfw i've been producing for 2 days
obvious mixing issues

https://clyp.it/v12xh533

>>74005069
ill fucking kill you

>>74010280
A good interface is definitely one of the most important things when it comes to recording, so going for the cheapest piece of shit possible is going to bite you in the ass. If you're short on cash you should be able to find a good (albeit discontinued) interface on the used market for cheaper than a new one with similar specs.

Does your computer have a line-in jack (usually light blue colored) on it? You might be able to get away with using that in lieu of buying an interface if your computer's got a decent sound chip on the motherboard. You'd still need something like a mic preamp though, but those are a fair bit cheaper than an interface with one built-in so it may be worthwhile to go that route.

>>74011155
what makes a voice appealing? What is the draw factor in all this? More specifically in hip-hop People want a voice that sticks out and is unique, but tolerable, like Chance the Rapper, or to a lesser extent Danny Brown. How can one manage to sell their voice?

>>74011216
Depends on the music but there's lot of factors.

Being intelligible is definitely important as long as you're not making death metal or dreampop. Being able to sing along to a song is something that gets people drawn to music. Relating to lyrics does as well.

>>74008284
Yeah totally just do you

Plz stop the limitations inspire creativity meme though that shit is so Reddit
>>74008354
>okay enough*

>>74009170
If you know massive really well stick with it. Another wavetable capable synth is serum, which in some ways is also a step up

Depends what you want
>>74010280
Extremely important. I can tell you from experience a gain hungry mic, especially an sm58 needs a better interface. Those cheap shures are famous for how they sound with quality pres, but nobody tells you that. They sound like shit with low end interfaces, and can be finicky

>>74010945
You have to be really fucking good and write really fucking interesting music without vocals, yes it's true.

>>74011216
i always try to add a vocal element to my music. it makes the song more memorable because words are easier for a lot of people to remember,

I fell for the lofi meme
https://youtu.be/o4dhjfoE_ro

>>74011200
I'm still gonna buy a cheap piece of shit to experiment in the meanwhile (I found a really fucking cheap one) but thanks for the tips. I still haven't found a good one in the used market

My computer is a piece of shit too. Technology is extremely expensive in the third world.

Anyone have any questions like: How did they get that effect on x song?

I'm pretty good at figuring it out and enjoy the practice.

>>74011409
I got one for you. How does Tyler the Creator get such good bass effects in his music. Like more specifically in this song he made just for a music video:
https://youtu.be/XIqVCJWSoeE?t=1m52s

can you id a synth?

>>74011409
The pad in the second verse of "piggy" by nine inch nails

I've approximated it but I wonder how you would go about that one...

(Happy to help answer these later too, I'm big on sound design)

>>74010971
Lexicon lambda. It's the only interface I've ever had, so it's seen some wear and tear. I think the usb connection itself might be responsible for some of the noise, but I could be wrong.

>>74011302
t. can't play an instrument

>>74011694
lol what made you say that????

I actually play several, all before switching to electronic :p

>>74011642
By the time it gets to the USB connection it's going to have already been converted to a digital signal, so any audio problems that would result from a bad USB connection would be glitches or dropouts, not any sort of noise overtop the signal.

How's your gain staging? Is your 4-track outputting a nice strong signal?

>>74011734
I had the master fader cranked up almost all the way, but I still had to turn up the line inputs on my interface a lot higher than I normally need to with my instruments. I could try recording it again with that extra bump, but I don't think it would make a huge difference. I'll experiment with it

https://clyp.it/4ke0kvck
heres the clean mix for whoever cares
looking for feedback on mixing/mastering/eq at this point i think

>>74012059
o and the vocal
https://clyp.it/j2yvaoy4

>>74011973
>I had the master fader cranked up

Jfc that hurt

Leave your master at unity

>>74011363
hey lad, i live in third world too, let me give you some advices

1 - If possible, dont buy shit in your country, people scam you and add several ks to the actual price, if you can ask someone who travels to at least a 2nd world pisshole to buy you stuff, do that, if you don't know anyone look for cellphone contrabandists in facebook and ask them if they can bring it, if they can't either, make some calculations to see if its cheaper to pay import taxes and buy online, if it isn't, then buy from a place that gives you guarantees, don't buy second hand or from local online markets

2 - Don't buy locally assembled computers, i spent a good amount on a good asus laptop, but i later discovered it was assembled here and has a weird interference when i switch on the wifi; for what ive found online, every other person with the same problem has bought asus pcs locally assembled here, so i guess its due to shit/cheap assembly

3 - When looking for interfaces, also check mixers, some of them are usb connected and support sending every channel to the daw, this is great cause for the same price of a meme interface with 2 inputs you get an 8-c-hannel mixer, this might be useful, and i wish i had known about it before. You'd have to research a fuck lot about cheap mixers doe, there's some shifty chinese shit that works horrible out there, stay away from "moon" (unless it is in your "very cheap" range, then go for it, 8c-h-annels is GOOOOOD)

4 - If you are just starting, pace yourself, you don't need to have good quality right away, just get some decent headphones for working, download asio4all, and when you are doing the final mixdown check in every single speaker/headphone available to you, that will do the trick from a starting standpoint, if it sounds well in both your more expensive and cheaper shit, then it probably sounds OK

5 - Work with references track bypassing the master bus, use filters to check every range of freqs is as similar as possible

>>74012206
*Master fader on my 4 track

>>74012237
Not him but lad don't send the master, mix in the box

>>74011729
>not using both
step it up

>>74012237
are you trying to imply that you can't clip or fuck up gain staging with a 4track..?

>>74012269
i do though!

>>74012416
>i do though!
uuh i dig that, are you going for that based organic sound?

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would appreciate any sort of feedback, im kind of stuck with this
https://clyp.it/catcdcqz
not mixed yet, still working on the arrangement

https://soundcloud.com/FAT_CAT/i-got-yo-numba

second phonk track i've made

who wna collab and make this a bit less repetitive sounding

>>74012439
>organic
hell nah bro i'm all about going FOWARD and DIGITAL

idm masterrace

guitars pianos etc etc EMBRACING our new digital potential. i do not wish to look back 0_____0

>>74012679
Noooooooooo
:(

>idm masterrace
Yeah i agree, i can't into idm for shit, too musically complex im but a humble drummer, but im gonna go for it when i get better

> i do not wish to look back 0_____0
Well but you ARE, digital isn't forward, FORWARD is technology merging with the organic seamlessly, cyberpunk is dead, we now eco-puters, rivers made of hydrating nanobots, forests of o2 to co2 nano-converters

>>74012577
>NO SOUNDCLOUDS, YOU WILL BE BERATED
>NO SOUNDCLOUDS, YOU WILL BE BERATED
>NO SOUNDCLOUDS, YOU WILL BE BERATED

>>74011157
Too short to have much feedback although it's a nice sound for just two days. Keep at it and post a lengthier track next time.

Shit I just exported a track to mp3 and all of a sudden there's this weird noise that sounds like a spooky shriek. I saved it again and it came out fine.

What the hell am I cursed now? How could this happen?

>>74013184
call your local priest asap

>>74013209
It's some horror movie tier shit. I almost freaked out.

https://clyp.it/rfafogs2
i keep posting in these but no one even takes the time to shit on my shitty songs

>>74012744
Well, that's kind of what I meant but didn't feel like typing it (MERGING)

My ultimate goal is to do that in industrial rock, which I have a rough concept of to form a band, but I'm not good enough a songwriter/(rock) producer to do that yet
>drummer
If you happen to be around Houston and sing let's hook up :^)

>>74013361
i can't sing for shit, nor am i in huston but if you want to set up a dropbox and work together id like that

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>>74012500
anyone?

>>74013388
need singing and lyrics, but very solid foundation, keep tinkering but also keep doing what youre doing

>>74013374
Hmmmm, maybe. I've never collaborated online before

How do I drop box <.<

>>74013415
>but also keep doing what youre doing
do you mean like "don't quit your day job"? or like "keep with that style"

>>74013424
you just make an account and give him permission to share with him it is free and many people use it to collaborate

>>74013440
For... FREE??? O:

Thanks for the indirect reminder to backup my ableton folder

Collab guy I will set up tomorrow because it's dream time and I hope you use ableton

>>74013427
i like your style, i wouldn't say quit your day job yet but there's defiantly something there, slap some ghostly singing over that with some ambient guitar and you got a great song.

>>74013346
I don't know what to say about it. I like it a lot, I feel like it sounds like video game music mixed with stoner rock. It's a little quiet I guess.

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>>74013458
i use ableton, i come here every day, just post this pic and a temporal email and ill fire you one up with contact info

>>74013461
thanks
here's other stuff that's also bad.
i'm pretty new to composition, i used to just play guitar, bass, and keys in various shitty bands
https://clyp.it/g0b2cohb
https://clyp.it/u2hbkods
crafting songs by yourself remains difficult

>>74013458
it is free to 2gb i think

>>74012840
idc ur a noob

>>74013460
thanks a lot mentok, will look into that, i can't guitar but i can throw in some ghostly singing

>>74012500
I like this. How do you do the voice thing? Do you use samples or vst? I like using female voices and choirs but I'm nowhere near this good.

>>74013637
its a preset from my brother's piano processed, if you want i can upload a middle c so you can sample it

>>74013689
Nah it's cool. I'm sort of new so I couldn't do much with a sample anyways.

>>74013705
if you throw a middle c into a sampler it just werks ™

>>74013509
first one could use better sounds, compositionally is not that bad, but the sounds man, the beggining thing sounds really digital and cheap

the second one i liked, really nice rythmic flow too, and the fx synths are very psy-trance tier

>>74013725
Do it then. I'll see what I can do with it.

>>74013745
thanks the feedback is appreciated.
the hardest part for me is arrangement, so i've been trying to focus on that
finding good synths is another thing i should start doing, i'm too used to analog sounds.

>>74013754
https://clyp.it/5aaan514

>>74013813
nice HBO theme

>>74013827
>HBO theme
HHAHAHA HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT

>>74013827
>>74013834
This is unrelated but my boss wrote the theme music for some HBO thing, I think HBO news or something like that in the 90s. It's a pretty cool story because he did this thing where every night he would write something new in his home studio and keep it in this bag of tapes (it was DAT at the time). He had a meeting with the HBO people because he had this music he wrote for the theme song.

He was at the meeting with a full board room of people looking at him, when he suddenly realized he grabbed the wrong bag of tapes. So he just popped in some random tape that he didn't even remember writing, and played it. After a few seconds of it playing, one guy was like "That's perfect". It became the theme song and he ended up making I think over 100k of that shit.

So keep writing every day guys

>>74013890
>meanwhile you struggle for rates in a mongolian threading bulletin board

>>74011181
please don't buddy. care to expand?

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>when u download a vst and it doesn't have an init patch

>>74005437
... so it's literally just 4 notes? that's phoned in even for you lol

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Don't know what this threads stance on piracy is, I'm not a regular but:

A few years back (2012 ish) Fabfilter had this thing on Pro-Q 2 where it would produce this ear shattering noise if it detected that your copy wasn't genuine/trial ran out. Right now I'm using a pirated copy of Saturn, and have been for a bit, but I'm living in constant fear that it will shreik and in worst case ruin my speakers.

Does anyone know if the shriek is a thing on Saturn aswell? One that I need to worry about if I'm using a cracked copy without a "phone-home-blocker"? program?

>>74016070
Idk what copy you have but my saturn works just fine

>>74016094
have yet to encounter any shreiking, I'm just worried that it will happen.

https://clyp.it/kx35o4dd
very simple song i made that i didn't spend too much time on. how do you think it sounds?

>>74016157
its ok

>>74016118
look on their site what the limitations of the demo version are, if it doesn't list noise bursts or anything like that you're probably safe
also put a limiter or killswitch in front of your speakers if you're afraid you'll wreck them lol

Rate this lads.. I am about to begin the mixing part, but you can bash everything else freely.

https://clyp.it/3cywsr01

I noticed the kicks sound way different on lappy speakers compared to headphones

>>74016779
Aight so here is the best I could do atm

https://clyp.it/k3dv4hgd

Bump 4 lunga

>>74017885
automate your cuts -______-
hella thin in the beginning/when the drums drop out

>>74008284
This anon gets it.

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Can anyone recommend a good but reasonably priced sampler for hip-hop production? Trying to keep it below $150 to $200.
A big plus would be if it works well with Live 9.

>>74018945
>Trying to keep it below $150 to $200.
dont think there's anything in that range except the volca sample or some old used 90s rackmount sampler

How do I make music like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMlStR9GCkU

>>74018973
How 'bout 200-300?

Do you know how good the Korg Volca is?

>>74019076
It's good but not for hip hop production.

Ugh, trying to write emotional chord progressions is hard.

If I try to use too many notes in the scale for the chords, a lot of the chords will sound the same.

Plus, I'm not feeling anything I come up with. I'm not sure how to go about this!

Someone shoot me. Anybody else here retarded?

so when i record vocals, should I be having any effects on the microphone channel while I'm recording, or do I put that shit on after I record

>>74019374
apparently the important note is the highest one

>>74019571
You can have effects on the vocals if it makes you more comfortable singing. Some singers like that, some don't.

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Anyone familiar with this piece of hardware? Know if it's good?

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>>74020492
Shitty picture, myb

is this thing good as a first midi controller?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IJ6QAO2/ref=psdc_11973721_t1_B01DGACVKM

>>74018719
>automate your cuts
what this mean

>>74018945
>good but reasonably priced
lol

>>74020182
leading tone

>>74019374
>If I try to use too many notes in the scale for the chords, a lot of the chords will sound the same.

that's ridiculous, it just provides a certain flavor of harmony buddy

have you actually learned your chords and where they fit in any scales?

>>74020618
they're known to break and they're cheap. fine as toys/not serious

>>74020647
>>automate your cuts

use automation on your *subtractive* eq

>>74020950
>they're known to break and they're cheap. fine as toys/not serious

then what controller would you recommend as a first one?
the reason why this one interested me is because the reviews are positive and the price is great

>>74020950
>use automation on your *subtractive* eq
I figured, but why? When?

>>74021165
>the reviews are positive and the price is great
This is normally the case for low end gear: "great for the price" translates to least shit in that price range from people who've never used better gear

I'm all itb so I can't recommend you one from experience. I have a friend who had one and his had a few keys pop off, felt cheap to me... i'm just saying if you want something of quality spend more on it. it doesn't matter that it's your first... like at all

so far as i can tell (i've been curious about picking a keyboard up to) there's a huge gap between cheap shit and expensive but not as functional or attractive midi keyboards. the most *inbetween* option i know of is komplete kontrol. a lot of people just use older digital synths, which seems like the undeniable best choice if all you want is a keyboard seeing as how you can pick one up for the same price as an expensive midi controller and also get a synth out of it.

>>74021320
>why
>When

for example: you may highpass your guitar at 200 hz to let the bass breathe or have a high mid scoop to make room for the vocals, but in the solo guitar intro, or and instrumental break, yuo don't need those cuts on. automatioooooon

before and after the kick enters everything is the same in your song. i still feel like you need a bass or something going on for most of the song though....

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Best way to mic a melodica?

>>74021413
Genius. Thanks for the respond.

>>74020950

>that's ridiculous, it just provides a certain flavor of harmony buddy

>have you actually learned your chords and where they fit in any scales?

But what if it really does just sound same-ish and the whole thing is like a blob? I'm afraid of that. There's only so many notes in one scale.

And kind of. I'm working on it. I just write down which notes are in the scale and then I play around and combine them in different ways (Well, I try).

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hey /prod/. how do i make jungle?

how does arca make these booming sounds like at 0:44 or 0:59 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9QbbBoGfo
or at 1:59 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7TFZmUKm_M
this seems to be a fairly common type of sound that you might hear in a new video game. I assume he does it in something like Iris 2 and layers sounds and uses reverb to give the noise a long tail. whenever i try to do something similar it sounds like garbage.

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I realised this is slightly off-topic, but please bear with me.

I'm getting a keyboard.
I mostly just want to plug it to my PC and use VSTs, but it would be a nice bonus to have a standalone keyboard as well.
3 or 4 octaves should do, I'm not too worried about that.
Might get driver issues with the old synth? I dunno.

In my situation, would you go for a newer, small MIDI controller styled dumb keyboard, or an older 90's MIDI synth? Why?

Pic related are the two I've been looking at:
> Casio CTK-530
> M-audio Keystation Mini 32

https://clyp.it/l1cbsz03

Are the lows on this too much? Ignore the meme ending.
I should probably automate some cuts too


>>74021666
Change up the timing too?

>>74021848
>Might get driver issues with the old synth? I dunno.
just buy a midi interface, most old keyboards probably don't have usb or drivers

>>74021629
np one of two people who may or may not be sarcasm <.<

>>74021666
>like a blob
that one's lost on me satan

there are only 12 notes total it doesn't matter lol

dw keep learning. i promise sticking to one scale/diatonic chords won't hurt you, and roaming from that won't make your songs better by default.

as for your eeeeemotional chord progressions, just learn natural minor. i iidim III iv v VI VII

ez pz. capital notes are major. i usually just play straight up minor on the 2 there because it sounds normal. try the major 7 where it's supposed to be dominant sounds more modern imo

http://www.piano-keyboard-guide.com/key-of-a-minor.html

>>74021749
>whenever i try to do something simila
yeah but what's your source????

i love making arca sounds o____o
p sure that's just a kick beneath granularish white noise possibly with a slight filter sweep down

second example is the same except not granular (or a much tighter decay) with that preverb leading into it and letting the reverb tail out

>>74021688
if you know your way around sampling it's pretty easy.
what you need is
>random drum breaks
>amen break
>loud sub bass
>vocal samples from action or horror movies
>analog synths
>piano loops
>160 to 170 bpm

after you have all that you then have to
>chop the drum breaks and rearrange to taste. some songs focus more on the creativity of your drum placement and bass, while others focus more on the melodies, samples and synths
>take you vocals and put them on the build up. on the drop you could add vocal chops from the same samples
>the drop should focus on either the drum arrangement and bass, samples or the synths. but for the most part jungle drops tend to focus on just the drums and the bass
>the intro should feel kinda slow and uplifting, so when the drop comes it feels more aggressive.

and that's really all I can say.
of course this is the most basic way to make a jungle song. the best advice I have is to get creative, which is something I can't do for you.

Anyone know how to install these [NO INSTALL] releases on rutracker?? The russian moonrunes are incomprehensible even with google translate (Serum one is the one I'm trying to get)

>>74021885
>np one of two people who may or may not be sarcasm <.<
I'm the cuts guy, there was no irony, I'm just stupid

https://clyp.it/sgas15dy
am I good at this yet

>>74021937
If I remember correctly, there might be some sort of command line/terminal file that you have to use in order to put the files in the right place. Like you just open the .cmd file with the command line and press enter or whatever

>>74022324
That it? There's like 2 pages of instructions and if's

https://clyp.it/o4wdovkw
>electronic and bass guitar

thoughts and feedback please.

>>74022310
Nope sorry v boring

>>74022576
nice slapping

it just sounds like you're dicking around for a long time without a song tho lol

reminds me of tera melos...

>>74005972
too much high end and too short

>>74007323
yeah that's definitely not meshing. having that beat hardly makes it regaeton

play the chords to a different rhythm at least man, make it groove and actually let it be dancable

>>74008161
>vocals*

>>74008270
seconding the monotone. i think you need to speed up your flow, (tighter) try getting a bit ahead of the beat rather than lagging if you get what i mean

>>74009723
yes

>>74010400
i still don't like the gimick vidya samples ._.

>>74021862
if by lows you mean low mids then yes definitely. specifically on that echoey thing. sounds like somethings resonating a lot right around 600 i'd guess

>>74015415
what vst

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Convince me not to buy this Akai MPC232 at $180 USD (it was $300 from a few months ago)

It has 16 pads (good not great quality), 8 knobs, 8 faders, 8 buttons, easy arpeggiation controls, and a step sequencer. I don't want to spend that much money on a midi controller, it looks like it syncs well with FL studio, and I don't think saving up for maschine (muh samplepacks) or a keyboard-hybrid is worth it unless you're a richfag.

What's the ms paint equivalent of DAWs?

>>74023318
Audacity maybe

>>74023360
Thanks that's what I thought

>>74021885

>dw keep learning. i promise sticking to one scale/diatonic chords won't hurt you, and roaming from that won't make your songs better by default.

>as for your eeeeemotional chord progressions, just learn natural minor. i iidim III iv v VI VII

>ez pz. capital notes are major. i usually just play straight up minor on the 2 there because it sounds normal. try the major 7 where it's supposed to be dominant sounds more modern imo

Thank you so much! I think this is the first time someone gave me an answer that I think will probably help. Well, the other guy is probably right about the timing.

If there's any other useful knowledge or tips, my body is ready.

>>74023318
lmms

>>74022975
>price drops by $120 over the course of only a few months
not a good sign my man

>>74023318
audacity is handy for doing odd ball editing tasks that another daw might not feature but if you want something with a straight to business UI to make quick small song ideas and then grow them into a full project ableton or fl is better suited.

less isnt always more with daws.

>>74021848
ditch the keystation, get the casio AND use it as your midi controller. if you really need to play 2 instruments at the same time you can set up zones in most DAWs.

>>74006969
link to thread?

>>74019076
I have a Volca Sample. Not sure why this anon >>74019092 says it's no good for hiphop production. It's a fucking sampler (or a sample play backer) so I don't understand how it's not good for any genre really. A lot of the golden ere hiphop was made on a SP1200 which hasn't got half the features of the Volca and had about 2 seconds of sample time! I really like mine and I think it'd lend itself well to hiphop due to its slightly low bitrate, put some chopped up breaks into it and it'll sound really good.
It's not a full blown sampler though and at the price range it's in you won't get much else like it new. It also has some restrictions which might not make it so user friendly. For me having to sample into my computer, edit and load samples into software and then transfer them over to the Volca is too much hassle so I just use mine mostly as a drum machine.
Other samplers to look at are the Akai MPC's although they are probably out of your price range. Maschine mikro or mk2 although technically just software and a controller works pretty much like a MPC, so worth a look. Another option is to buy an old rack mount sampler like the classic emu's (E6400 ultra) or a akai and use a midi controller with that like the Akai MPD range.

>>74022975
>I don't think saving up for maschine (muh samplepacks) or a keyboard-hybrid is worth it unless you're a richfag.
Or unless you don't want something that'll break in the first year of having it, have shitty pads and sliders, made out of cheap plastic by a company that haven't made anything of any decent quality for nearly 20 years.

>>74021913
thank you so much anon ;-;

>>74021688
>Sample the amen break
>time stretch it to your desired bpm around 160-170 bpm
>chop that fucker up
>place it into a midi track and play about with it till it sounds swinging and good
>get an 808 kick and distort the fuck out of it by putting it through a mackie mixer and resample it into a emu sampler
>add emu Z-Plane filters to bass
>add samples
>get invited round to Dillinja's gaff for smokes and share production tips
;)

>>74024237
no problem

how can I make trance pad like the one in this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raOfvIzZviM

https://clyp.it/xkd4ww5t
what do you guys think?
also is the track boring or does the chord progression get annoying?

>>74024906
If anything gets annoying, is the "unspeakable word" sample. Add some other words or something imo.

>>74023893
I'll look for it in a bit...

>>74023583
Np at all man, I just hope you find the info useful. The only other useful things I can think of are to know all the main chord formulas by heart and use inversions more frequently when you want to change your leading tone or need lazy variation.

https://clyp.it/fl21g112
anyone have advice?

>>74022310
Would make for a good ringtone

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>>74026809
Save it, it's all yours my friend

>>74026905
don't ever post this again

>>74021749
thats a kick/hit sample with reverb automation

>>74027234
no it's not....

reverb automation is extremely obvious lol

i think >>74021885 probably nailed it

I don't know shit about music theory, I really like house music. Is this too dissonant?

https://clyp.it/bs0ej5e2

>>74027551
>too dissonant

you would know if it was
(it's not)

>>74027551
its not bad i think the kick should stand out more though it seems like its buried behind everything else

>>74027706
I need to start trusting my ears, senpai.

>>74027528
it is, its two channels one dry one wet and the wet goes up in volume after the transient, might also have a low pass automation on the tail or might be the high-freqs dying down

>>74027992
yeah it's pretty common place to do something like that sidechaining the send to the source...

i think he was asking about making the actual sound, not fine tuning the reverb

>>74026905
lel

>>74028054
the other guy says it has some noise going on, i think the noise is a dirty reverb

still working on this
https://clyp.it/vk1g123t

Anyone go to hardware then switch back to using a computer? Ever since I started getting into modular stuff I find it's a better workflow to sample segments and overlay samples.

>>74029693
Yes because i found out modular actually wasn't that cool and i need more than hardware synths currently provide

>>74029693
hardware is fun but you have more control on a computer

>>74029090
https://clyp.it/o3zdz4py
I reworked it a bit

>>74012214
goodpost

How does ableton bpm detection even work?
>record 132bpm click when ableton is at 120bpm
>tells me it's 120 bpm
>record same click with audacity
>drop it into ableton
>ableton autosyncs to 132bpm

>>74030629
you need to set it to 132 in ableton or it will always do that

>>74030629
>>record 132bpm click when ableton is at 120bpm

why the fuck would you do that???? just set it at 132

if warp is on and you change the bpm from what it was at when you imported the clip, it stretches the clip.

set and record the global bpm to what you want the song at dummy

should shit be breaking 0db when I go to master?

>>74030838
no, unless you really know what you're doing

and you'll want more headroom than that because mp3 might make you clip

>>74029693
>Hardware for writing
>computer for arranging, mixing, mastering.
>modular for wasting hours on end making bleeps and bass.

After making a bunch of prog/metal shit I made another electronic track. Is it any good?
https://clyp.it/uwnqohsu

>>74030680
pretty annoying
>>74030701
it was a free running click that I didn't know the bpm of, I guess I could have tapped it in, but it's annoying that there's not detect and sync to audio.

>>74031742
I think you know the answer to your question already... don't ask for validation like that man, won't make you happy.

That main theme sounds like something that would be played on guitar- try to escape that.

>>74031783
Ableton has a metronome....

>>74030629
>tells me it's 120 bpm
what do you mean by it tells you?

also, an easy way to find bpm of an audio clip is to find the transient that would be the first beat of the bar, right click and set as 1.1.1, then find the transient that's the first beat of the second bar and drag it on the grid to be in that position.

when you click the first transient, it will show you the exact bpm of the one bar phrase and then you just make that your global tempo

>>74007448
is there a demo version of this?

What do you think of the bass in this track? Too quiet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqqIac_L1XY

>>74032774
It could probaly be louder, but it have taken serious production to get a clean mix like at this volume.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOhxPhqzMwg

>>74008161
A simple bell or funk bass line would fill it. Great start!

>>74009723
More layers and sidechain on the chord so it has slowed attack and it should sound smooth, bud. It is a little minimal, I'd add a jazz lead on top of the chord too.

Anyone have thoughts on this synthpop thing? Haven't written the second half of the lyrics yet.

https://clyp.it/bn4vrd00?token=d99fd9e1c7c224b7fc0ccb6a57a9a0eb

>>74033012
Melodyne

>>74030629
because gaybelton has AIDS
it will "warp" the sample to the speed of which your track is so like people are saying if the detection is off it will just default to that. If you do not know the orig bpm like people are saying try to match the first bar and grid up.

I'd say though you should w/o sticking to the current grid (ie zoom in super super high powa), clip out the loop or a bar of what you know is to be the main tempo of the song/sample. Get it lined up then set the loop to your selection. Now listen and make sure you have the loop clipped out right so it does not "jump" on you ie start too early or too late.

Now, move that clip over to the start of a bar, and adjust the entire bpm until the grid matches your clipped loop perfectly. Now you have the bpm really pretty damn close I've found. A bit of a PITA and I'm sure there's other ways to do this but I've found this to work well. Then of course with the known BPM I use that in the imported sample and move the track back to the bpm I'm using, turn on warp and toss that mofo into the sampler or grid or whatever.

If you don't know the bpm outright it can be sorta shitty sometimes. This is why I like some outboard samplers that just bpm detect really fucking well in comparison for some reason. Even if they only say play back at 16/44.1

>>74032864
That mix is great

>>74033029
>Melodyne
holy shit it's 850$ for that.. I wonder how much better it is now than say 10 years ago or so when it came out.

>>74033142
I know Tim Hecker used it a lot on his newest LP

>>74033012
Your vocals sound like you're trying not to wake someone up

I dont even know what i was going for on this. Thoughts?

https://clyp.it/sy5w1sj2

from where should i start?

I want to record some music with my Zoom H5 but it sounds a bit off. Is it the mic quality? I'm using audacity in on fedora linux right now.

https://soundcloud.com/luitenist/microphone-issue/s-Lu0pW

>>74034975
when I record on the mic itself, it sounds fine. I'll give it a shot on a windows machine.

>>74026905
MY NAME IS OLIVIER QUEN

>>74027551
i like it but the muddy reverb on the piano stabs is detracting from it

>>74034029
I was, roommates :p

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this trebly af isnt it ? or not?
https://clyp.it/0wso4m0a
what is it missing to be a properly eqd mix

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can someone tell me what to do with this? my plan was to add some synth melodies over it but everything i try doesnt seem to fit, where should i start? using fl studio but if anyone knows some software that would help me pls let me know

>>74032665
it's 2017 nigga, try the russian internets

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who here has some schizo tier phonk for me to rap on, i have been wanting to get on this mental illness rapwave for a minute

thank
please respond

>>74039086
it does sound too trebly, its fatiguing

it sounds like the drums are ducking the vocals in a jarring way

theres something weird going on with the compression - the crash cymbals being all smeared, the drums are trying to steal the thunder, the style of the processing on the drums sounds like it belongs in metal but the guitars and the singing sounds like tom petty or something

>>74034607
boring is my only thought desu... though i like the percussion

>>74034975
fuck off and read

>>74034731
expand if you want an actual answer

>>74039086
not trebly., i'd say your eq is good but the guitars are a little bright/not different enough for my taste

you're obviously not the best singer but you could double or SOMETHING man

>>74039156
>can someone tell me what to do with this
I hate that you're asking this...

scrap it and write something else... with less reverb. take those chords and play something feel good on a hip hop beat. resample this thing in some other weird shit

>>74040994
if you're good i've actually got a few beats who somebody told me yesterday he can't work with because he doesn't have the voice lol

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EVERY TIME I RECORD IT SOUNDS LIKE SHIT

IT'S NOT EVEN BECAUSE I HATE MYSELF, I JUST SOUND RETARDED

I'M A NATIVE SPEAKER BUT CAN'T STOP BUTCHERING WORDS AND SOUNDING UNINTELLIGIBLE

FUCKING HOW DO PEOPLE SPEAK SO SWIFTLY WITHOUT GETTING TONGUE TIED AND SOUNDING LIKE AN IDIOT?

how do i learn how to properly equalize my earphones/headphones prod? a lot of people mention highs, mids and lows and i'm listening to them like an idiot.

So in fb groups I always see everyone working with speakers instead of headsets.
What are some good desktop speaker/sub setups i can buy for around $100?

>>74041673
took off some 3.4k on one of the guitars, added som air to cymbals and vocals. is it better now
https://clyp.it/ayq5uwxv
good idea of doubling the vocals, will try it

>>74041376
shit that is fucked up. ill live at it is, not willing to remix the drums for a fourth time

>>74041376
do you have an idea on what do to the drums

>>74041673
Is this flume? the guy who writes out the multi crits?

>>74043917
I always do multiple kid

>>74041673
>>74039156

https://clyp.it/fkfaut1d

does this have any potential or should I just scrap?

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whats the best free auto tune plug in?
or whats the best auto tune plugin so i can just pirate it

>>74045457
there's one called autotune....

anyone know how to rap?

>>74045457
reaper comes with one

going to call myself CodyTylerFlumeTetxXxX and sidechain compress a picture of my food

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took a shot at making trap. not happy with the 808s. sound or patterns. but i got burnt out on it so im letting it sit for a bit

https://clyp.it/mvnqezjc

>>74041673
i really want serious answer please anon

>>74045722
nevermind i figured it out

>>74046687
vocals are tight, instrumental is cool, snares are wack.

808s sound fine to me.

>>74045028
no it has no potential and stop asking for validation

that recording sucks, why are you so set on these chords?

>>74046105
people already sidechain their databends you're not original sorry :^)

>>74046855
i guess since you didn't just google you wouldn't think to EXPAND and be SPECIFIC????


what are you trying to do though???? do you have a budget? goals?

>>74047456
please don't bully
want to make "Brockhampton-Lamb" type of stuff

Can you make something of quality using only fl studio? and i dont want to make trap beats or anything like that im trying to make groovy summer hip hop jams but i have literally 0 money and the only software i have is fl studio

>>74045457
melodyne is all the tuner you'll ever need

>>74047907
Yes but get some synths....
Mastering plugins are worth spending on imo, idk what fl's limiter is like though

>>74047765
...

Daw interface monitors

>>74047907
you can always pirate shit

>>74048330
>Daw interface monitors
what? i am a total noob, can you explain

>>74048330
do you know any synths that could give me a similar sound to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=923uTY2q71I&index=1&list=LLV40QaPrz3H1S8kXXAv0n3w
im very new to this sorry

>>74048430
Jfc you are a faggot. Nobody here is obligated to spoon feed you. Go bother /r/watmm

Daw is a program you make everything in

Interface gets sound in and out

Monitors so you can hear on something that sounds better than your shitty headphones.

>>74049058
Pretty much anything will do those sounds, he's just fucking with the filter envelope. *that* sound though you'll probably want something analog modeled. Google it. Al I've had is monark, which is a good moog emulation. Mini mogue va(?) is free

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>>74004213
hey /prod/ I think I've had a slight breakthrough and I feel like sharing some advice.

I've seen a ton of people here saying that they can come up with a solid loop, but then they don't know where to go with it. I have the answer. It's all in the energy levels, man.

This is an old piece of knowledge but I feel like I finally just got it. Every song is based on the idea of rising and falling tension. Raise tension by adding or changing stuff, reduce tension by taking stuff away. It's so simple.

Yesterday, I made a bunch of "energy level diagrams" based on songs that I like. To do this, I just drew a typical graph with the Y-axis labeled "energy", and the X-axis was bars. I used some algebra to figure out the approximate number of measures in each song. As I listened to the song, I traced a line to represent the "energy" at each point in the song.

What I found is that most of the songs I like follow very similar patterns. A slow build up to the first peak, then a moderate reduction, followed by a more drastic reduction, then back to high energy.

Anyway, I thought I'd put my theory into practice today. I made a loop - nothing too special- and then just stretched it out by adding/ removing sections. Oh, and fills, always use lots of fills. Here it is: https://clyp.it/xmyheloh

I don't claim that its a fantastic song or anything, but I was surprised at how easy it was to transform a 15 second loop into a full length track. What do you think, /prod/? I'm not sure if this is actually good advice or if I just caught a bit of the schizophrenia.

>>74049779
oh word, thanks a bunch

>>74041673
Could you tell me why its boring?

>>74050184
Check out chord stuff by ben levin on youtube.
I'd say its fairly common, the idea of tension and release.

>>74050184
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dramatic_structure

>>74041940
smoke, drink strong shit, and stop being a faggot and try to control your voice, make up a character to voice through


im sure you, like everybody else, has realized that in certain situations under different moods you change your voice to suit

>>74039156
>https://clyp.it/eqzjmi2g
more reverb, but automate it, let the transient go through almost dry then make it go up for the tail, down again for the next transient, do the same but with less reverb when the chords get less sparse

add a dry beat and then add at least two panned synth melodies falling like a cascade, slightly automate each note

big fat bass in the center, reverb it, but kill the stereo

compress and up the reverbed singing and then sidechain it to the chords

side chain everything to the kick, phat 808, but don't do 4 to the floor, syncopate it nicely, jazzy hats/ride on '15 with a delayed, reverberated, eqd version on the other side '15s

if you can add some chimes add some chimes, eq automate to make them sparkle

>>74052017
I'm a different guy but I'd say that the harmony is the weakest part. Did you sample one chord? Study chord progressions for sure. All im hearing is one minor chord, which isn't terribly interesting

>>74052567
Na i was just fucking around. Cheers

https://clyp.it/3j53fgex

rate hate do your thing any feedback helps unless you suck

>>74008915
whats a good virtual synth for a newbie?

>>74053991
sylenth1

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Why do I feel like everything I create has nothing to it ?

https://clyp.it/ymrkt5tb

>>74004213
https://clyp.it/eci4teep?token=d958f60cb7c045abd4c79bfc77351633

Any thoughts on this? Releasing soon

>>74053991
I started out with a little vst called synth1. I don't see many people talking about it lately but I think its still good.

>>74054137
Can't find a mac torrent anywhere

>>74056641
I need something with a virtual keyboard as I don't own one :(

>>74056856
you can use your typing keyboard to input midi notes in daws

>>74056856
logic x pro

what do you guys think of this as a first midi controller?

https://www.amazon.com/midiplus-Smartpad-USB-MIDI-Controller/dp/B00WU6FDNG/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_267_lp_img_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=664YNAVAEAHVQ56JMW35

>>74057394
Get something with keys first. Much more versatile.

>>74057551
What's your opinion on this?

https://www.amazon.com/Novation-Launchkey-Keyboard-Controller-LAUNCHKEY-MINI-MK2/dp/B00VVNOMGI/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1500606296&sr=1-2&keywords=novation+launchpad+mini

>>74054627
Theres no hook, and not enough familiar elements i think. The instruments all seem like they're playing very basic patterns. I dunno, it's a little perplexing; i hear chords, bass, arps, drums, all good things to have, but it feels very static - as if its not going anywhere.

I think the chords are a bit odd, i would recommend trying some more familiar progressions (music theory is always the answer). And the instrumentation is a little flat. I'd recommend trying some exercises in melody writing. Try to write one full melody, then a counterpart. That should get you started.

>>74056250
In my opinion, the background noises (people talking or something) can make the mix feel a little cluttered at times. Bass also seems to be causing some distortion/ clipping. You could just call them stylistic decisions tho.

>>74057692
Pretty sure those are quite common. In terms of build quality I'm sure its better than the first one, although I've never actually tried a novation midi controller myself.

Probably not bad for your first purchase

>>74033012
I want to call this synth-folk, you may have just invented something

>>74058898
Nah, i think the mix sound pretty clear

>>74059119
thanks friendo

>>74039086
You sound like Steven Universe's dad, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.