Who's the Jackson Pollock of music? Is painting more

>>73945089
>Is painting more abstract than music?
no because its magic to explain how your tiny earbuds can transmute sounds.

>>73945199
I'd argue it's more magic that we see light

>>73945089
John Cage

Albert Ayler Trio

abstract expressionism is to painting as noise is to music. entropy, confusion, "randomness," yet retaining aesthetic value. i would say pollock is closer to more modern noise artists, while someone like a rothko would be like john cage

>>73945089
Death Grips

>>73945089
Alexander von Schlippenbach - Globe Unity

Probably some nobody classical composer that only plays random notes on the piano

Stone Roses xD

Arca

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>>73945089
Some aleatoric composer like
>>73945259
All hacks though.

Pierre Schaeffer

>>73945089
Kim cascone

Autechre

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>>73945957
Autechre is cyberpunk.

Borbetomagus, like even the documentary was called A Pollock of Sound. and don't just listen to Barbed Wire Maggots because of Scaruffi, it's not their best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6N8C6A6fcg

>>73945323
Rothko is drone music

Merzbow

>>73945089
It's probably close to avant garde free jazz like brötzmann and han bennink

>>73945904
It's nothing like musique concrete

>>73945089
Id say they can be pretty equal, they are definitely the two highest forms of art, followed closely by literature

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>>73945089
Literally has Jackson Pollock's painting on its cover

>>73945401
lel

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whos the ray johnson of music?

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oasis

>>73945089
Morton Feldman

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Who is the norman rockwell of music?

>>73945089
Squarepusher

>>73945089
any free jazz artist

>>73947687
>>73945323
>>73946918
feldman is literally the rothko of music

>>73947024
the highest forms of art are music and architecture

>>73947698
george gershwin

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Who is the Francis Bacon of music?

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>>73945338

>>73946184
Scaruffi likes Borbetomagus? Nice. And yes, BWM is their best.

>>73945089
Can we actually agree in a mature way that Pollock represents the pinnacle of western degeneracy?

>>73949611
Bacon was extremely influenced by Picasso, and Stravinsky is the Picasso of music, so I would say that the Bacon of music is someone from the 50's that is influenced by Stravinsky

>>73949611
The Residents

>>73947229
holy shit. so many levels

>>73949734
I like how that almost sounds like a challenge to find one now.

>>73949759
Fuck off

>>73949611
lutoslawski

>>73949723
not even close

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>>73949723
Elaborate

>>73949723
reminder that pollock was used by the united states as a propaganda tool to show the world that we were more cultural than shitsucking commies in russia

>>73950789
Don't provoke an argument with the /pol/tard

>>73945089
>Who's the Jackson Pollock of music?
Animal Collective.

>>73950918
animal collective relies on lyrics and melody which are akin to representational figures so nope nope nope

>>73950918
listen to more music

>>73950951
>animal collective relies on lyrics and melody which are akin to representational figures so nope nope nope
Jackson relies on colours.

>>73951024
>listen to more music
You too.

>>73951030
colors aren't REPRESENTATIONAL FORMS

>>73951124
no u

>>73947908
>>73946918
>>73945323


/Mu/tants once, literally converted color field art to a music sub-genre

to do that they:
1-Got the characteristics that form the painting genre colorfield art
2-Using logic music theory skill and painting genres skill converted all those painting characteristics to music ones
The result was a genre called tonefield, and is like this

1-The song start with a silent part withat least one second, or a tone with at least one second
1.1-If its a tone the tone must have the same frequency, volume and waveform, during its entire length
2-Go to 5 or 3
2.1-You can only go to 5 if the song has at least one tone.
3-Continue the song with an tone that has at least one second, or a silent part with at least one second.
3.1-If its a tone the tone must have the same frequency, volume and waveform, during its entire length
4-Go back to 2
5-The song ends.


The tonefield released made by mutants were grouped at this label
https://wavelength2.bandcamp.com/

The problem is that almost no one liked the idea, and the few guys that made this are shitty musicians.

>>73950875
literally never been on pol
also genuinely curious, you fucking cunt

>>73951579
I'm not calling you a /pol/tard. I'm calling the other guy a /pol/tard. Learn to read

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>>73951599
hard to read when you're sky high

>>73945089
reminder that it took painting until the 20th century to reach the level of abstraction of music

>>73950865
That's actually pretty cool.

just listen to psycore and shut the fuck up.
example: delp - is there somebody listening when somebody says that he wants to kill himself

>>73945089
unironically any noise artist

John Coltrane if you have any idea of why and how Pollock's stuff matters.

Who's the Monet of music?

Pollack is shit and not an artist just a fraud

So let's say that the JP of music is a dominoes pizza delivery driver

Abstract art is not art

>>73953001
>art is not art

?

>>73952982
>>73953001
t. retards

>>73953016
What you term as "abstract art" is in fact not art

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>>73953220

>>73949723
No. And he shits all over 'm-muh traditional' art, which is okay to look at for a few minutes, but is dull, boring, and ultimately pointless. It exists as expensive wallpaper and that's it. It served a purpose pre-camera era, but since the invention of the camera, figurative painting has been rendered totally useless in conveying emotion and artistic expression.

>>73953227
Please give us a definition of Art

>>73952311
Eno, maybe? Something calm and relaxing, but also vivid and beautiful.

>>73953543
>I don't understand what art is the post

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>>73953658
please tell me what art is, oh mighty one

regale us of beautiful artworks of aryan women walking through fields of wheat

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>>73953865
>oh mighty one
mad as fuck

>>73953943
typical trad art fag

>control+f
>keith rowe
>no results
i hate this fucking place

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>>73954072
>generalizing a whole population of art fans based on some individual
Umm the 1800s called. They want their backwards ass logic back.

>>73945401
Their guitarist is pretty good at ripping off jackson pollock desu

>>73946918
makes sense to me. drone/minimalism/ambient etc.

>poolook
holding onto their talentless heroes

>>73945882
Except he has shown skill in actual compositions.

>>73954099
I've listened to their debut AMMmusicand it wasn't as impenetrable as it thought it would be. Any other recommendations? Apparently Pink Floyd and the Beatles were fans of them.

>>73945255
That's a very abstract argument but it's also weak as the phenomenon of music is far more intangible than basic optics u fucking piece of ape cock

Boulez
Webern
Even someone like bartok are all far more abstract than some gimmicky modern painting

Nervous Cop
Chris Corsano?
Those moments in Philip Glass songs where arpeggios in different rythymns layer and weave like tentacles of light.

>>73945089
Stockhausen - Gruppen
Boulez
Ferneyhough

>>73949611

Not quite sure but that triptych directly inspired the chestburster creature of Alien, by way of Giger. So at least Alien is the Francis Bacon of movies.

>>73953543
LOL at your life
>nyc art scene
wack

yeah yeah yeahs ep, the noise was tuned to this kind of artwork

Who's the "bad & talentless" artist of music?