ITT: Post an mucore album that you don't "get"

no

this is not a healthy way to discuss music

>>73911305
yes we need to post more memes
nobody actually discusses music here

SILY is one of the only albums that I can say changed my life.

>>73911303
I feel like this one is alright not to like, but it's still a damn interesting album. If you really want to "get" it try listening to "Never Meant" and "Honestly"
If you don't like it at all or at least don't think it's interesting then... okay. It's just music after all.

>>73911328
Syd and Rick's chemistry is GOAT

>>73911303
i feel like i wouldn't get this either had i not listened to it as a depressed teenager

>>73911357
I mean, I really liked the drums on this albums, but I didn't get the hype on it. But I'll give a better listen to these songs that you mentioned.

>>73911346
How did it change your life?

>>73911287
Theres not much to get. It's just a really upbeat collage of pop music. You're not gonna find any deeper meaning with repeat listens

>>73911446
First time I listened to it was like reliving all the most beautiful and bittersweet moments of my life all at once, after it was over I was never the same. I think a lot of people have had this experience and the whole wanting to hear something with the emotional impact of SILY but falling short every time thing is another.

>>73911500
i mean you could argue that the lyrics have a very "live your life" message

>>73911287
There's nothing to get, it's just really well done.

>>73911287
I didn't get this one for a while. Then one day in summer I was at work and finished a project I had been working on for a while and I was feeling great. It was also a Friday and on a whim I put this on for the drive home.

On that drive home when I was in that great mood the album 'clicked'. Now I love it.

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>SINCE I LEFT YOU, I FOUND A WORLD SO NEW
>EYEA AYEA

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do i just need to keep listening to it?

>>73911995
You're probably gonna need to listen to it a few times. But it's not gonna click for everyone.

>>73912751
Listen to it a few more times and pay attention to the melodies in the second half of the album. I feel like the first half is about the rhythms and the second half is about the melodies.

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This one is weird cause I love other depressing albums like Hospice, The Glow Pt.2, etc. But unknown pleasures just doesn't hit the same points for me.

>>73911995
if you don't get it the first time drop it.

>>73911287
I think the first thing to notice is how well it all flows. The album doesn't have a single track out of place (with the sole exception of Frontier Psychiatrist) and it has this extreme forward momentum. The fact that it has a lot of intertextuality between songs is also often missed. Listen to how themes and motifs are repeated, and how they subtly tell a complete story. It also has interesting ties to collage and surrealism. Is subverts the expectation of what you'd expect from a plunderphonics album (see - Beware the Whim Reaper) while still being a hallmark piece in the genre. It conveys all this depth while still being appreciable as a fun electronic dance music album as you can see from [>>73911500,>>73911763]. Listen to it louder. If you're interested, Chris Cutler and Elza Adamowicz have written a lot about surrealist music and plunderphonics.

Talking Heads - Remain In Light

>>73911562
>implying SILY's protagonist's path is that of inner peace and happiness.

if you don't like a /mu/core album, you're 90% likely to be smarter than someone who likes that album

>>73913257
>hallmark piece in a genre it doesn't belong to

>>73913355
Which is exactly why it's so exciting!

>>73913292
What is there not to get ?

>>73913299
It's a warning against escapism and the dangers of believing true love exists.

>>73913374
oh, i get it. like when aphex twin completely revolutionized bebop

>>73913292
Agreed
Talking Heads 77 and More Songs About Buildings And Food are amazing but the slower songs on this one kill me

>>73913054
>Hospice, The Glow Pt.2, etc
Incomparable. The attitude and atmosphere is totally different.
Listen to Substance and/or New Order's Power, Corruption & Lies if you liked the faster/poppier stuff and Closer if you liked the atmosphere and overwhelming cloud of gloom and then revisit it.

>>73913415
More about the dangers of oneitis, but essentially, yes.
>>73913430
It didn't revolutionize the genre, but it's the most technically impressive musical collage while approaching collage from a completely different angle then usual. It's not as much bebop EDM but more like experimental music bleeding into the mainstream and yielding interesting results.
>>73913334
Pleb
>>73911303
Super comfy, great production, perfectly captures the feeling of teenage summer romance.

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am i missing something

>>73911995
i never liked this album but i just re listened to it a week ago and it hit me hard. theres something scary and real about it imo

>>73911995
It's more of a mood piece with historical significance. Come back to it later.
>>73912751
>>73913054
Garbage

>>73913566
my point is that aphex twin has nothing to do with bebop and avalanches have nothing to do with plunderphonics

>>73911926
i heard the song on many random tv shows when i was younger and only recently i was able to identify it

im stupid

>>73913696
>Liking Godspeed You! Hack Emperor but not Joy Division
Embarrassing
Learn your goddamn history and stop with your bullshit online posturing

>>73911303
I honestly don't even think the emo lyrics are the important part here, most of it holds up just based on the guitar work

>>73913627
Not really
That sort of sound wasn't quite as played-out and boring as it is in 2017 when that record blew up

>>73913726
All post punk is irredeemable garbage.

>>73913593
It's great complex prog, and has a constant infectious optimism to it.
>>73913054
It's not like hospice and the glow. Think more like teen angst than the theme of dejectedness on those albums.

>>73911328
Not mu-Core, unfortunately.

>>73911305
>I'm a vegan btw
Faggot

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not a fan of style over substance shit, des u

>>73913707
The fact that the shock and dissonance is sandpapered away doesn't make it not musical concrete. If you look at it through that lens the album has a lot of new life.

>>73913773
Unironically kys yourself

>>73913852
Go cry to your shitty melodramatic generic rock faggot.

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not a fan of shitty insincere pop tunes, des u

>>73913828
that album is nothing but substance you moron

>>73913893
something something vocal harmonies

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not a fan of whiny, uninsightful drivel with insipid composition, des u
>>73913904
composition is not substance; meaning is substance

>>73913837
the avalanches made a sound collage album. calling it musique concrete goes a little bit far but is an understandable lapse of diction if you're not very familiar with the latter genre. but plunderphonics literally had a manifesto written about it. it's a very particular kind of sound collage that plunders what it does to political as well as aesthetic ends. sampling really obscure stuff to make dance music does not plunderphonics make.

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Its funny that I really like Spirit They're Gone Spirit, They've Vanished but in this I can't really get the good thing

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not a fan of musically dull, yet meaningful and pure art, des u

>>73913992
I haven't read Oswald's essays directly, but I've heard his music and read about him through secondary sources. I understand why you're so reluctant to call it plunderphonics, concrete or even surrealist and you have a point that it doesn't really fully conform to any of those three things, but the album still does very interesting things if you look at it through the lenses of them.

>>73914096
if you are someone who listens to a lot of musique concrete or plunderphonics, SILY looks even worse if it's attempting to be a foray into those genres. much better to look at it through the lens of EDM (cast broadly, not referring to modern popular EDM that sucks), where many producers, even very good ones, use much less laborious, time-intensive, and unique techniques than Avalanches do.

>>73914118
I just flat out disagree here. I think it's a far more interesting as an experimental piece than an EDM album, but I respect your opinion.

>>73914162
but it's not experimental at all. it's just time-intensive EDM

>>73914208
When surrealism self-negates, it's not nothing, it's surrealism without surrealism.

>>73914006
It's a chartpop album with bleeping.

>>73911328

Doi doi

>>73913696
>Kid A
>Garbage
Consider killing yourself.

>>73915421
But it is

>>73913946
The lyrics are deep as fuck and the songs are catchy and intricate. You are guaranteed to not catch everything the first listen. What more do you need to be happy?

this thread is like a fly-trap for plebs, holy fucking shit.

People are literally hating on Pet Sounds? Jesus fucking CHRIST.

>you're a fucking idiot
This for all of you, because you think music is something you "get." Well, you pressed play right? The volume was up enough? Just listen to music you like, chances are you just don't like whatever you're listening to

>>73914010
"art" is a bit of a strawman here. art music serves the same purpose as any other music

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>>73911287
It's really happy and fun, an anti Down Colorful Hill of sorts

>>73915521
I'm sure you felt silly when writing that the lyrics on Spiderland are "deep as fuck", so I won't press you on that. I've listened to it more than enough times to catch most of the intricacies. If the shitty lyrics were less intrusive, the album might be worthy of an occasional listen. As it stands, it's just an embarrassment.

>>73913946
If you pay attention to the instrumentation, the music is top-notch; but otherwise, I agree that the lead vocalist and lyrics writer suck and ruin an otherwise perfect album.

>>73914006
>Its funny that I really like Spirit They're Gone Spirit
You listen to way too much noisy music. Listen to the pop and psychedelic albums of the 60's and a bit a freak folk, then try this again.

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>>73913946
>composition is not substance; meaning is substance
Both are substance? TMR has both as well

>>73913946
>composition is not substance
I just barfed in my mouth

>>73915722
>Spirit
>excessively noisy
i hate this 4chan meme. it's bred of incredible turboplebs thinking that literally something like seven total seconds of dissonant textures as window dressing makes STGSTV some kind of noise-pop hybrid

>>73915807
I used to love Spirit and now I don't because the entirety of the five-and-a-half minute opening title track hurts my ears if I play it at any reasonable volume

any sufjan

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>>73915421
Sorry to break it to you man but alternative rock is pretty much all derivative garbage. Radiohead is probably on the more interesting side of it, but it's still pretty garbage. I have to admit that they pioneered some interesting stuff into the mainstream, so they're essentially the Beatles who aren't fun. Nowhere close to anything musically GOAT.
>>73915556
There are some artists that you have to approach from certain angles. You can't go into Chris Watson's work expecting catchy melodies, as an extreme example. I always ask how to listen to stuff recommended to me.
>>73916178
Seconding this. I know I'm missing something.

>>73916539
Good music suggests how it should be listened to
Chris Watson is cool, btw

>>73916623
Well put, but not everyone knows how to approach everything. I have no clue how to approach neoclassical works for example. This thread basically helps you give the end of the string and you can go from there.

Also if you like Chris Watson check out the qt in my previous post, she's great.

>>73911328
>overlooked album from a very popular band
>unique and innovative sound
>main composer went crazy after this
>very high Scaruffi score

i dont understand why is not /mu/core

>>73916220
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/bksbeat/rating64857048

>>73912751
Don't know what to say about this one, one day I started listening to it and I really liked it.

>>73911287
Not much to "get" beneath the surface, it's really atmospheric and infectiously catchy. Try listening to it when you're in somewhere summery and having a good time.

>>73911303
If you never had your heart broken as a young adult/teenager, this album might not be as relatable.
It's still an extremely evocative bit of guitar work, though. Never Meant is a masterpiece.
It's also got some pretty suburban vibes to it, but that might just be me.

>>73913627
Skinny Love is still a great song. He's got some good lyrics in there, but ultimately this album blew up when it was novel, and now that kind of earthy folksy stuff has come and gone.

>>73913893
>insincere
wow okay
yeah this album isn't for you dude

>>73914006
Another album that ought to be experienced in a summery, joyful setting. I didn't click with most of this album for a while, but then I came back to it after listening to a lot of Fall Be Kind...

...and doing shrooms.

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I want to like it, but the vocals are super annoying to me

>>73911287
It's just an album that is a cool concept of plunderphonics (god I hate that term) put to amazing use. Everything sampled here is done so well it becomes one song. It's a great album to play for people not into "music" or really anyone. It just feels good.

>>73911303
It took a while for me, anon. I went through a really bad emotional time and when I heard this after a while, it really spoke to me after, for a long time, trying to pick this up and just setting off to the side. The guitar playing is top notch as well as the playing as a whole and the lyrics are just good to kinda feel to. Feel exactly what is up to you.

>>73911995
Another one of those bad first impressions. "Muh crescendo-core". But damn I just listened to this whole thing on a road trip and it was really something else. I guess it just brings out this fantastic story through audio while still having some great performances. Just set it off to the side and pick it up when you think you'll be ready for a good journey. Same with "Lift Your Skinny Wrists..."

>>73913054
It probably won't hit those same feels like those albums anon. It's more...I guess dark. If you don't dig the darkness it brings, you might not like it.

>>73913593
Just some good ol' prog dude. If you aren't into proggy stuff, don't bother. It was the leaping off point for me to get into Yes and prog as a whole though. The playing on here is great and still gets me hyped to this day.

>>73913946
This is an album that kinda hooks you or it doesn't. It's on a more easily accessible level both lyrically and instrumentally, but post-rock as a whole isn't a genre for everyone. I like some of the witty lyrics and some parts have the band in a great groove that just grabs me.

>>73915623
Yeah don't go into this thinking it's amazing. It's not really for everyone. I like it but just because of how light-hearted it is and whimsical.

>>73915623
It's one of his rougher albums, definitely not the best starting point. Listen to 1990 first, get an idea of who Daniel Johnston is/was at the time. Each album of his is a fascinating look into the mind of an artist desperately trying and failing at almost everything.

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Listening to Maybe the People... right now. This is maybe the third time listening to the album and it hasn't clicked. It's not bad, it just doesn't appeal to me.

>>73913627
best break up album ever made. super soulful and earnest

>>73913946
Watch this and stop embarrassing yourself if you're capable of doing so.
https://youtu.be/-FhhB9teHqU

>>73917598
Tibet's vocals are godly what are you on about
C93 isn't /mu/core anyway, but try All The Pretty Little Horses and Soft Black Stars

>>73918547
Did you not understand all of it or the 'weirder' songs (Aumgn/pekking o)? Think of it as a group of very talented musicians doing rock with a jazz approach (most of Can's music are made up of improvisation sessions). Try listening to Ege Bamyasi and come back to it

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Make that any Swans album. Public Castration is the only one I can say I truly liked. I just found everything painfully dull, Filth in particular.

>>73913027
It might be a dumb question but what is the difference between melodies and rhythms

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pls help

>>73921553
Melody is the pitch of the sound, rhythm is essentially how it unfolds in time, usually referring to a steady beat or the "pulse" of the song.

Or more simply the part of any sound that you can tap your feet to is rhythm, and the part that you can hum is melody. Everything else is timbre.

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>>73922049
maybe try strange days I dunno, it took me some time to appreciate the sometimes goofy organ playing but now I love it

>>73922059
Oh, and I forgot loudness.

>>73913257
>>73913299
>>73913415
I love SILY, but what's this about a hidden story?

>>73922049
I honestly don't know m8, this album is perfect in every way. The production, the chemistry between the band members, Morrison's poetry, Ray Manzarek's keyboard playing. It has a little of everything; powerful blasts of garage-psych like Break on Through, poetic floating dreamy shit like Crystal Ship, and then there's Light My Fire and The End to really make the album a unique whole. It all just fits together so wonderfully

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So...

...is it just me?

>>73922153
>>73922060
i guess i just haven't listened to it enough. i do like the songs, but i don't consider it the most perfect, but i can't see its flaws either. very weird.

>>73914006
>Its funny that I really like Spirit They're Gone Spirit, They've Vanished but in this I can't really get the good thing
Are you me?

I think exactly that

Apart from Bluish, MPP seems mediocre, but STGSTV is a masterpiece to me since day 1

>>73922178
The lyrics are very cryptic without actually being unintelligible, Morrison was very Shakespearean/classical in his style of imagery. It's all a big psychedelic puzzle that sort of fits itself together as the album goes along. I'm very high so I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense but I really love this album

>>73922125
It's right there. The album starts with the guy going on a trip after a breakup. The whole album is both a literal and an allegorical journey. Think about what the main character goes through and how he changes. Think about when and where it takes place and how that place historically connects to the main characters journey. Think about what the sampled voice quips say and how it relates to the mood of the song that's playing. Think about the end in relation to the beginning. Think about the nature of journeys. Think about the nature of cruise ships in relation to the last though.

>>73922209
what other albums do you love my friend?

>>73921062
Wait for night, turn the lights off, plug in them headphones, close your eyes, and just listen. I know how pretentious this sounds.

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>>73922222
nice digits friend

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>>73922222
I, for once, love those quints, my friend!

>>73922213
My god, I'm dumb. I think I might devote a whole day trying to understand this story in SILY. How'd you learn it, Anon? Repeated listenings?

>>73922222
Stuff that's entirely unrelated to The Doors haha, that album has always had a special place in my heart after I sort of "reheard it for the first time" on acid once.
>Nail - Foetus
>Psychic Powerless - Butthole Surfers
>Freak Out - Zappa
>Half Machine Lip Moves - Chrome
>Lately I've gotten into Modern Lovers, Einstürzende Neubauten, and just started listening to Public Image the other day. I really enjoy post punk/industrial

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>>73922222
Oh and those quints are checked friend

Sunbather.
It's not its fault.

>>73922279
It's not a rocket science. Just listen to it go into it thinking these things
1) Guy just broke up with chick
2) He's on a journey, both literal and metaphorical
3) Think what the music makes you feel, what the vocal samples say and how it relates to 1 and 2. Repeated listenings help, I really "got" it on listen number 4 or 5 I think.

>>73922059
Ah thanks, mate. That makes things a lot clearer

>>73922153
>poetry

Why do people say this? Singing isn't poetry you fucking pleb.

>>73918547
WHEN I SAW
MUSHROOM HEAD

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>>73922338
Not getting baited this easily newfriend

>>73922374
but its not cool cat reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>73922222
What albums do you love my friend, since I never asked you in return?

>>73922440
I'm very entry level musically, only started listening seriously recently.. but here's what I've enjoyed so far:

>Kimono in my House - Sparks
>The Mollusk - Ween
>Is This It - The Strokes
>Strangers From the Universe - Thinking Fellers Union Local 282
>Discovery - Daft Punk

>>73911287
Listen to it outside

>>73922470
I really like Ween too, they remind me a lot of the early Frank Zappa stuff. If you liked The Mollusk definitely check out God Ween Satan. Only other one I'm familiar with is Thinking Fellers Union, if you like them I bet you'd like Holy Modal Rounders. Indian War Whoop is fantastic

>>73922496
With what?

>>73922329
>>73922060
Took me a couple of listens to "get" it but then it clicked and I've been listening to it every couple of weeks since then, can't really help you more than that, it's just a beautiful acoustic album for when you're abandoning hope for your interminable life

>>73911287
I think knowing that almost all of the sounds on the album are sampled from all over the place adds to it for me. It sounds like going on a cruise to paradise; it's so pretty and happy. I find it quite evocative throughout especially songs like the title track and Two Hearts in 3.

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It's a good album cover

>>73923539
you just must not get that kind of music then.

>>73913593
You need to be masturbating on an English field while listening to it.

>>73915554
Overrated and sometimes even boring, Smile its so much better and that's much to say because I hate the beach boys

>>73921974
Breakthrough : the album
The album itself show how talented its Kanye West in terms of prod for the time. It also changed the Hip-hop game from being gansta.
Try to listen some other 2000 rappers and compare it to this album to show how advanced was for its time. Or try 808s and then comeback to this one.

not mu core but Women - Public Strain

>>73922160
I didn't get it at first

Listen to it with the lyrics up

Also the ending will give you goose bumps, just don't skip anything

>>73924057
Dem guitars man

>>73916220
holy shit, that's a photo
I always thought it was a painting

>>73924214
pssttt
hepainted everything in the room. that's why it looks like a painting

>>73922160
Lyrics man, hit me hard

>>73924876
I rarely like folk, but I really like that album because of the lyrics/guitar combo on this one. Specially the song where he sings about his parents fighting in the next room while he and a girl friend find out what their bodies are for.

ON THE NOTCHES OF YOUR SPINE

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>>73911305
>Implying anyone discusses music here

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I never really got LCD soundsystem's appeal, Am i listening to it the wrong way or what?

>>73925975
Are you dancing in your seat while you listen to it? Because if not you're doing the whole "dance music for autists" thing wrong.

>>73913054
that's because this isn't Closer. Nor is it suppose to be depressive. It's a punk record, they admitted it themselves, they wanted to "lop" people's heads off with their sound. Ian wanted to go darker, and as his depression grew, the band's aggression lessened. Which, if you listen to something of New Order, lie Brotherhood, VS. Joy Division's second album Closer, you'll see that they couldn't handle being sad saps either.

>>73913828
This, I don't get this -- it's boring to me, it doesn't resonate with me. This and fucking literally everything Zappa put out.

>>73913893
this was, at the time a psychedelic masterpiece, especially considering it was to be followed up with SMiLE, this and that album (had it came out) would of cemented The Beach Boys as a force to be reckoned with when the British Invasion came around. Sunflower's good too. All this shit is so damn good, senpai; how you not get?!

>>73911303
just imagine yourself again leaving your old high school friends/gf into that still totally unknown future, sorta reflecting on your pretty isolated suburban existence, sorta about not tying all those loose ends before you leave

>>73918547
WHEN I SAWWWW
MUSHROOM HEADD


I'm a big fan of can.

Here's a few tips:
consider the amount of influence it had on, say, radiohead. Listen to "oh yeah" and tell me that's not the case.

Then listen to the drumming. If it doesn't blow you fucking mind idk what to say.

Also, as the other anon said, maybe take a "jazz" approach to the album. Listen to it as if it was some very, very talented musicians taking some psychedelics and having some fun.


Also, if you don't get this one or think it's way too weird, maybe try ege bamyasi. It's much more accesible.

>>73927189
Hot rats is amazing tho, trout mask is just trolling pre-internet age

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First of all, I really like slowdive and ride.

I also can take noise and, in fact, was a big fan of it back then. Not so much right now.

This, to me, just sounds muddled as fuck. The vocals are way back there, that distorted muddled noisy guitar is way up here. They don't let me listen to anything remotely coherent as any trace of actually good melodies are put into the background.

I just don't get why the fuck they would do that, because back there I can really hear some good, nice tunes. It just sounds like a mistake to me.

I don't get it. Please help.

>>73913627
Skinny love is such a painful song

>>73927410
turn up the volume

no i mean really turn up the volume.

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I just want to say how nice it is to see everyone get along in this thread and actually help each other out. It warms the heart.

That being said, I can't listen to anything by Grimes except for Oblivion and Genesis. Every other song on this album loses my interest really fast. What mindset do i need to be in?

>inb4 i get bullied after bringing up how nice everyone has been

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I've tried time and time again to listen to this album. Explain to me why you like it.

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>>73923818
>can't get away from the fact
It's a flawed album

>>73914006
It's funny how AnCo were circlejerked so hard at the end of 00s, but in the long run turned out to be mediocre as fuck, this album too

>>73927626
You know what made me appreciate Grimes, anon?

Listening to Art Angels.
The way she stepped up from Visions => AA is fucking incredible. With a little bit of help she made incredible, colorful pop jams.

I *hated* Grimes back when Visions came out, and I hadn't heard her two first releases. After hearing AA, I went back and listened to the the first 3. You have to understand: she was doing all those simple beats/nymph-y singing by herself. She's said that her first two 'albums' (Geidi Primes & Halfaxa) weren't even ever meant to be released -- they were just her little scraps made on her laptop that she never thought were good enough.

Visions was like her culmination of "okay, these were some decent little ditties, but I need to move on from this phase". And there it remains. Simply put: she's better now. She did her level-grinding with her first 3 releases, and now she actually competes with the Pop giants of today.

For what it's worth,
Art Angles >>> Halfaxa > Geidi Primes ≥ Visions


Now, who can help me with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, Kyuss' Welcome to Sky Valley, and Zappa's music, like Hot Rats? :(

>>73922060
All of Nick Drake's albums are boring as fuck to me, he's a dreadfully dull singer.

>>73927827
>Welcome to Sky Valley
drink a ton of moonshine and walk in the desert
something about the gritty sound of the album appeals to me

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I'd love it if anybody could convince me this album has any redeeming qualities whatsoever.

>>73927795
Sounds pretty, the drumming is excellent, and has those 13 seconds of straight noise to keep out the plebs. Try listening to Chocolate Girl or Alvin Row particularly if the front half of the album puts you off.

>>73927671
It does a great job at creating a disturbing, dark atmosphere while still being energetic rather than catatonic. Plus this moment is the most visceral you may ever experience in any album ever: https://youtu.be/8_dXp0eF8s0?t=4m35s

>>73927410
See >>73927495. You also have the wrong mindset for it, since you say the guitars and vocals sound muddled; that's the point. It's meant to sound like one big wall of sound, sort of smooth in texture. Lie down (preferably in the sun) and let it wash over you like waves on a beach.

>>73927671
Are you ready to be fascinated by a primitive drum machine? When you are, listen to Suicide. Seeburg's Select a Rhythm timbre approaches those of electric guitars and basses and it was made in '68. They also pioneered two genres of music - synth punk and minimal synth, which became influential to industrial artists.

>>73927968
>>73927495

I've heard about the volume thing. It also gave me quite a headache one time. That's because of the mix, right?

I know it's supposed to sound like that, I just don't get why they'd do that.

Slowdive, for example, creates the whole "wall of sound", the smooth texture, but does so not at the expense of the melody. It's also way more pleasant and "dreamy" in a way. Took me a while to get it, but I got it eventually.

I get that it's a classic, thou. I totally get why, in context, was amazing and unheard of. I also get that the cover is absolutely amazing as it represents exactly how the album sounds.

One time a friend of mine told me "you should imagine a room full of cigarette smoke, you lying on a sofa, high as fuck, depressed as fuck, smoking, while everything seems to go in a vintage 90s slow motion. That's what mbv should do for you."

I guess I'll give it another try sometime. I must've listened to it a good 5-6 times by now.

>>73927827

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot slowly became one of my favorite albums. No context or anything needed. Listen to "Jesus Etc" and sing along. If you dig it, then listen to it in order.

It's just a really nice indie album with catchy songs and a pleasant, relaxed sound.

>>73928469
dont hurt yourself man. if you dont like it, maybe you just wont like it.

>>73927827
This will sound weird, but I feel there's something about Yankee Hotel Foxtrot that sounds guilty. It's like the soundtrack to regret. If you can get into that headspace, you might like it more.

>>73919100
took me like 20 listens to click

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redpill me why this isn't a 3/10

>>73911303
only losers in middle/highschool like this album

>>73913054
the first song is good but the rest is awful
>>73922160
I honestly can't fathom the fact that there are people who don't already love that album half way through the first listen. it's just amazing

>>73911287
Clever use of its many samples. Just realize that it's a plunder phonics record first and muh groovy jams second. It's not as poppy as one is led to believe, but its easier to appreciate as the sound collage style record it actually is.
>>73911303
Very musically interesting record throughout. Twinkly melodies, shoegaze sounding bits, punk parts, horn sections, etc. all in tracks with versatile multipart structures. Like look at the first track, starts with twinkly melodies/erratic drumming, then a more dreamy sounding part, then a more punky sounding groovy part.
>>73911328
Most tracks are psych pop rock ditties with the long ones being proto-krautrock. If you like neither, I can see why it might not be your cup of tea.
>>73911995
You gotta take time out for it like you would to watch some tv or a movie. It's some of if not the most cinematic music out there. As apiece the record fails if not given full attention and the listener doesn't engage in everything that it presents.
>>73912751
This ones kinda cool cuz every track almost has its own way to be appreciated.

>>73930680
>Unknown Pleasures: the rest is awful
>ITAOTS: I honestly can't fathom the fact that there are people who don't already love that album
Am I being trolled?

>>73913946
It's a halfway point between post rock and alt rock. If you're a fan of both genres then it's awesome, but otherwise its so so

>>73913787
literally the only acceptable pink floyd album on /mu/

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i think its just ok, what am i missing?

>>73927971
Don't forget that some of the stuff on that album is a very early example of synth-heavy psychobilly. Ghost Rider, Johnny, and Rocket USA are all incredibly propulsive and rhythmic, reminds me a lot of various krautrock stuff I've heard too. All in all just incredibly innovative music, it sits at the border of so many genres

>>73912751
Listen to it and create your own narrative; this album is all about atmosphere, as the lyrics technically don't mean anything until the last track.

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I love Since I Left You. I love Endtroducing. Why do I dislike this?

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>>73931825

similar-ish to this one

>>73931825

same desu, it's, dare i say, boring

>>73921974
the foundation of rap to come, Kanye isn't what he was but this and LR are phenomenally forward thinking in their style. Changed hip-hop forever, like it or not.
Plus, Kanye comes across as more genuine in some of these tracks, and is clearly a different person.

>>73931011
it's all in the production
it's overrated, but shouldn't be ignored

>>73931825
I'm not sure how this wouldn't click with some people.
In all honesty, I enjoy the way it sounds and all the loops etc. You also shouldn't look at it like SILY, or End because all three are different in their style. Go into it blank I guess?

>>73931842
Doom's bars are off the chart on this album, and Madlib is a great compliment to Doom's style (no hooks, all bars, weird but catchy instrumentals to go with them). It will click eventually. Songs like America's Most Blunted, Shadows of Tomorrow, Figaro, and Fancy Clown are incredible and it may just take time to ease into the albums groove - it isn't really a traditional hip-hop record as you can imagine.

>>73932051
Man, anybody that thinks Kanye is a 'different person' these days just can't be a mega-fan. He's as real as he's always been! Just did enough of that classic soul-sampling style and got into some harder beats.

>>73919100
compare the song writing to other acclaimed psych pop albums like sgt pepper. forever changes has some of the most interesting flowy unpredictable songs of all time. its melodic but not at all catchy - and on the surface is very normal pop - no ""psychadelic"" electric guitars to be seen
>>73921062
the meme about listening to this in one session in the dark is actually pretty true - just try it
>>73922060
took a while for me but genuinely one of the most beautifully sad albums ever made.
also great guitar work
>>73927410
if they put the vocals and melody really high in the mix they would have sounded like a normal pop group - thats not the point.
everythings meant to blur into one- the guitars flow in and out of the mix constantly - its that that creates the dreamy atmosphere

>>73932188
I think his lyricism is lacklustre compared to what he could do, in being less real and less interesting.

>>73928469
You should start from MBV's earlier music to understand how they progressed. Sunny Sundae Smile, Ecstasy, and Strawberry Wine are all extremely noisy jangle pop with catchy and summery melodies and will probably be extremely easy to enjoy.
You Made Me Realize and Isn't Anything still have a catchy pop influence but bring in a more sophisticated use of noise that darkens the sound and roughs it around the edges. Feed Me With Your Kiss especially sounds like pop music that's being pummeled within an inch of its life and it sounds awesome.
Loveless and its accompanying EPs are like a refinement of this sound. They're very clearly still there (listen to Shonen Knife's cover of What You Want) but for some songs (I Only Said, To Here Knows When, Loomer, Come In Alone) they pretty much only exist to give the songs a sense of movement while emphasizing the smothering guitar textures. Other songs like What You Want and Sometimes have catchier melodies, though admittedly Loveless's melodies as a whole are not as good as the ones in their previous works. M B V distills this sound even further by slowing them the fuck down and making them prettier before ramping up the psychedelics in the last third.
>how do you focus on the guitar textures when its just a blob of sound???
idk I just pick out a sound and try and follow it as it weaves in and out of the blob. For an example, above the flute-like sound in I Only Said, the things that jump out at me are a faint arpeggiations in the middle register, background noise that makes up the accompaniment in the vocal sections, and a faint accompanimental phrase that goes from the 3rd of the scale, to the 4th and 5th. Jumping my attention between all of these makes that 2 minute loop at the end of the song not just bearable, but interesting to listen to.

>>73911287
this album only clicked for me 2 weeks ago, it just takes that one time anon

>>73932225
he admitted it himself on No More Parties In LA but he still decides to make albums where he raps about his problems selling shit clothes

>>73931359
You need to get into the mood of the album and how the tracks follow each other very fast. If you don't get as hyped as the singer, you easily get out.

Do you usually like Punk-Folk ?

>>73913292
listen to the live versions on Stop Making Sense and The Name of This Band

>>73931011
Considering the fact that the maximalist production on this album is fucking huge, there should be at least one track for you to enjoy. After that, try to listen to another track which is similar until you go full circle.

It could go like this = Power > All of the Lights > Lost In The World > Runaway > Blame Game > So Appaled > Devil In A Dress > Monster > Hell of a Life > Gorgeous

>>73920259
I find his vocals to be the very definition of melodramatic and obnoxious, I'd like to tune them out and just listen to the music but they take up so much of the album

>>73922160
dont worry about it its just a meme

>>73913627
If you didn't at least enjoy the title track, you're missing a lot. Or, breakup albums are not your thing.

>>73911305
This is one of the nicest threads i bumped into in this shithole of memes on the last few days tho

>>73931043
>Shoegaze sounding bits
None, I don't think you understand what Shoegaze is
>Punk parts
No

>>73932802
YOU LEAVE MY BOOOOOOOOOOOY ALONE

>>73911995
What album is this?

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>>73931825
I'm in the same camp; I like the same albums you mentioned but Donuts doesn't click with me. It's too sporadic, too dis-jointed. I understand why people like it, and I like other instrumental hip-hop and "plunderphonics" or whatever the fuck they call it. But Donuts never really elicited my attention.

>>73931842
Above average rapping and excellent production, that come together with the theme of super villainy. There's really nice synergy between MF DOOM and Madlib, who are both some of the best of their craft respectively. Although, it's a bit heavy on the skits.

>>73913946
Sorry, can't help you....slint is shit. Pure shit.

>>73933523
SILY, Endtroducing, and Donuts are not plunderphonics. they're all instrumental hip hop/sound collage if you're being generous for SILY and Endtroducing

>>73911328
Way more musically interesting than any other PF album.

>>73933523
Part of what makes Donuts so good is that it sounds totally coherent even with most of the tracks being around a minute long

>>73913828
>>73927189

Get drunk and listen to it sometime. I've sat listening to that album from start to finish while drinking countless times.

I liked it sober beforehand too, but drinking enhances it for me..

>>73931011
Critics love to overstate how innovative it is. There has never been a hip-hop album like it, but that doesn't mean there has never been any album like it.

>>73927671
Landmark for synth-pop, hugely influential.

>>73930619
It's an essential to the sludge metal sub-genre. The timing of the album is cool because they emerged out of the seattle-sound era of rock

>>73933443
you could reverse google image search
but its Godspeed You Black Emperor - F#A# Infinity

>>73930619
There are albums in the genre that came after and are way better but it's very influential. Otherwise i kind of agree

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Listened to most of this album a few times. I don't get it.

>>73932225
Well, hmm, I guess the difference is he's finally at the top now. Then, he was (more) level with all of us and also looking up.

But he's still the same person looking down from up there. I guess less interesting is a debatable argument for that reason, though.

This all coming from a guy that defends the lyrics on TLOP & Yeezus. If TCD was a real-ass fellow dude that wanted to be famous like anyone, TLOP is Kanye being a real-ass dude talking about his life now at celebrity-status. People loved MBDTF for that, right?

I think because he already proved himself with bars on his first few albums, he's more about playing with the sonics instead. I thought TLOP was awesomely varied; especially after the compact, constantly-boomingly-abrasive Yeezus.

>>73925975
Nah, they are shit

>>73911305
Kys m8

>>73911305
I feel you anon. God bless

>>73913893
>insincere
This is why you have no friends and no one likes you.

>>73930619
the guitar tone is 10/10 and that's pretty much the basis of the entire album

>>73933422

EVERYBODY CAME DOWN JUST TO SEE ME LEAAAVIIIIN

>>73932707
One of my favorite albums of all time.
I could see how someone wouldn't like it.

>>73933597
Nothing about SILY strikes me as hip hop at all.

>>73913627
Honestly to get this album you need to listen to it with a broken heart.

>>73935889
How is that in any way helpful? You didn't go in detail at all.

>>73935953
im trying to be nice and not call it slightly creative edm

>>73935868
BABY TAKE MY HAND NOW CAN'T YOU SEE I'M HAPPYYYY

I listened to this on a swing set in the mountains in Montana and it was fucking beautiful. Penny Dreadfuls makes the album.

>>73922160
I really didn't care about it for a while. Holland, 1945 has grown on me.

I think you have to approach it by saying "i'm going to listen to this album to enjoy it, not to appreciate it as the best album ever." Definitely a case of overhype, but still a good album worth listening to.

>>73927968
The thing about AJJ is that you really have to be a teenager who hasn't seriously looked at music outside of what's on the radio, etc.

It's more a statement of how different music can be than doing any of what they do well. If you don't "get" it, then it's probably because you're an adult who wasn't introduced to them early on.

Their concerts are fun, though.

>>73920230
Please stop spamming samuel. He makes quality music content. I don't want him to become a meme here.

>>73927410
>This, to me, just sounds muddled as fuck. The vocals are way back there, that distorted muddled noisy guitar is way up here. They don't let me listen to anything remotely coherent as any trace of actually good melodies are put into the background.

This just isn't true and has never been true for me. Am I listening to some remixed version of the album?

>>73927827
If you don't like Jesus, etc., YHF might just not be for you. The song is pretty much their style perfected.

For Zappa, it's really just a taste thing. I know a lot of people don't ever really click with it. Keep listening to it would be my only advice there.

>>73912751
in almost every album I listen to I try to put together a story in my head. One of the easiest albums to do this with is kid a, combined with the art the album came with and really paying attention to the lyrics about midway through you get this feeling of a kid wandering around a post apocalyptic winter type situation slowly learning about the past world. It ties nicely into amnesiac as the counterpart in that way as well.

>>73936565
>Please stop spamming samuel. He makes quality music content. I don't want him to become a meme here.
That's on /mu/, not on me. There are no other videos of that quality on it.