>the same person who tells you hip-hop isn't music will

>>73837977
I agree with your statement.

>>73837977
So you think punk rock isn't music?
You're just as retarded as the person that says hip hop isn't music.

>>73837977
Wrong

>>73837977
They both are dumbed down, shit music

hip hop and punk rock are both unarguably music

>>73837977

hip hop is shallow, materialistic and egotistical. at least punk is about fighting the system and challenging capitalism.

>>73837977
'77 dubs checked
punk confirmed real music

>>73838010
This post also includes post-punk and art punk

>>73838013
We're talking about the music here, not the context or statement dipshit

>>73838015
>mentally-challenged

>>73838042
>We're talking about the music here, not the context or statement dipshit

They're inextricably bound on a metaphysical level, you blind pleb. Listen to this and get your shit fixed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU3oAyin8W4

>>73837977
I'm glad to see other people made the connection.

Post punk exists. Where's post hip hop?

>>73838988
spoken word

>>73838988
cLOUDDEAD

>>73839009
Wouldn't that be pre hip hop?

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>(c)rap
>music

Lmao you almost got me

At least Punk bands can actually play their instruments and not just steal other people's music.

Eminem is good though.

>>73839029
The answer is the hip-hop group cLOUDDEAD.

>>73839071
nice b8

>>73839071
Stealing is an artform unto itself, you don't know the work most thief go through to create their plans and act out on them

Nigger defending theft

>>73839027
>>73839073
Stop being parrots, there's more than that .

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>>73839071
>punk doesn't steal
>yet they keep playing each others chords everytime

>>73838988
As cringy as this may sound, I think Death Grips fits. Their base sound is rooted in hip hop but they go beyond the typical genre conventions and they don't feel like other hip hop acts (at least not when they started).

>a music genre isnt music

Good job being as dumb as the people you despise.

>>73839534
>>>73838988
>they don't feel like other hip hop acts (at least not when they started).
Listen to the rise and liberation of niggy tardust. That alone shuts that argument down

>>73839454
I'm trying to say cLOUDDEAD pioneered it.

>>73839576
Well I haven't listened to it, but if you're right then that would also count as post-hip hop

They're right, tho.

Niggers don't even know what makes rap not music. Sad!

>>73839591
No, if anything it pre-dates the beatnigs.

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>>73838988
whoa...

>>73839735
?
It came out in the 2000's
Are you talking about trap

>>73839926
I'm talking about experimental/ abstract/ industrial hip hop .

>>73837977
Punk music takes much more musical talent than hip-hop and that's saying something
Btw punk is music