>poster claims that any non-metal album has the best

>>73703840
>listening to metal
>not being a virgin
Pick one bro xD

drumming fast =/= being a good drummer

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>>73703840
metal drumming is boring as fuck

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>>73703864
>thinks the drummer just "drums fast" in metal
Yeah racecar drivers just "drive fast" no talent whatsoever.

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Perhaps no other instrument changed so much as the drums during the free-jazz era. The idea that percussion was merely for time keeping was turned upside down. Percussion became a component of the sound just like any melodic instrument. Basically, the free-jazz era discovered that harmony is not necessarily only built around melodies. As the gurus of free-jazz indulged more and more boldly with dissonance, percussive sounds did not sound anymore like a different dimension of music and increasingly gained peer status in the harmonic process.

Post metal with good drumboys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fKFgZoI_Bs

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>poster thinks drumming is a valid musical skill

>>73703880
lmao your idea of somebody with talent is a racecar driver

Jazz drums are better than metal drums

>>73704026
Probably. Doesn't mean metal has shitty drummers.

>>73704046

I have a lot of respect for metal drummers, I was just responding to the OP

>>73704068
Oh ok. It has been nice talking to you.

>>73704000
The comparison went right over your head, my autistic friend.

>>73704026
Nah, it has to both sound good and be technically skilled, jazz is only technically skilled to prog-tier wankers and rarely sounds good in any sense of the word.

If this was true, then math rock wouldn't be roads ahead of its metal "counterparts"

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>>73704382
>then math rock wouldn't be roads ahead of its metal "counterparts"
Haha since when was it?

>>73704382
>math
Absolutely zero soul. May aswell be created and played by a computer.

>>73704382
It's not real mathrock if you're not reading the algorithms and hearing the music in your head. This is the kino way to experience mathrock.

>>73704000
But racecar drivers ARE talented at racecar driving. Given the same equipment as Dale Earnhardt Jr., you would definitely lose every race against him.
You just wanted to socially signal against NASCAR and it's fanbase.

>>73703900
This, Jazz has always been highly innovative and the drumming in jazz definitely shows that. Unless you're talking about technical death metal or prog metal it really can't compete at all

>>73704465
I disagree. Spiderland's drumming is actually probably the least robotic thing about the album.

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>>73703840
Did somebody say best drums in music?

>>73704545
autism: the post.
Life tip: no /mu/core has good drumming

>>73704523
Most thrash, Death, and Black metal has better drumming than jazz.

>>73704627
Jeez

>>73704855
ugh

>>73704644
What is better drumming for you anon?

You said these shitty metal genres have "better" drumming than jazz. Is this assertion a result of your bias for Metal, are you implying that a death metal drummer would do a better job at playing jazz than a jazz drummer, or that Death Metal drumming is inherently superior to jazz in a way? if yes, why?

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>best drummers thread
>all rock drummers

>>73703872
good opinion
>>73703880
bad opinion
>>73703900
p. much this desu
>>73704465
There's good math rock drumming.

>>73705058
It has more complexity, it takes more skill, and most importantly, it sounds better especially within the context of the genre.

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>>73705170
I thought this was a board for music

>>73704505
iannis xenakis is math rock

>>73705237
lmao

>>73705170
I cant really confirm or deny this, because i havent heard enough to make such broad generalizations, but so far imo i'm leaning towards jazz drumming

>>73705322
Try Deicide

>>73704341
Because you have beyond shit-tier ears

>>73704341
You are exactly why everybody hates 'metalheads'. Completely stupid and ignorant

I will concede that to keep up in metal, the person has to be a very good and proficient drummer on a technical level. But I disagree that very fast and technical drumming is the apex of drumming. So, metal drummers are arguably the best drummers, but metal drumming being the best is more of a matter of taste.

>>73703968
Coming from some one that can't play anything

>>73705456
The non-technical stuff is just as good too, they sacrifice a little bit of complexity for more rhythm but it's still way more complex than most stuff.

>art
>best

>>73704341
>implying techdeaf is any better

>>73705541
It's people who approach anything with a desire to fit in, so ''their'' genre or band must be best, cause it's ''theirs'' and so on.
I mostly listen to metal but even when I was a teen I realized they are the most cancerous group ever.

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>>73704627
excuse me

>>73705456
>going really fast with drums is the hard part
The fact that this hasn't been called out as bullshit really shows the musical proficency of this board.

>>73705653
the post you replied to doesn't say that at all.

>>73705608
>moonchild drum wankery
no. That is one of the few examples of a good /mu/core album though.

>>73703880
horrible analogy
neck yourself retard

You can't compare metal and jazz drumming, because the genres are very different and the drums are used for different reasons. Tho I agree metal drumming takes more technical skill as of you need to play very fast but in metal they only either use drums for blast beats, double bass and drumrolls which are pretty much the same for all bands.

Overall I think it's harder to play good metal drums but harder to write good jazz drums.

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>>73705801
>being this mad because you can't into analogies

There's literally millions of Youtube videos about girls doing metal drum covers. Not one single video with one playing Jazz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TQ1jpkw-E8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpRHN-n7jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cixbqfCSoFc

Electronic drums are obviously magnitudes easier to produce than metal/jazz/etc drums but they have the potential to be the best I M H O.

>>73704520
You mentioned NASCAR not the other anon.

>>73705973
Those are literally all the cherry picked slowest metal songs of those bands. South of Heaven is a great songs but it's known for having much slower and more doomy drums than any of their other output. Sad But True is literally a rock song off of Metallica's most commerical album. That's also one of Sepultura's slower drumming songs.

>>73704537
this

metal musicians spend their entire lives practicing and honing their skills with a certain instrument only to end up making music for autistic losers that is embarrassing to listen to. this is doubly true for power metal, speed metal, folk metal, and fantasy metal. no good music has ever been made in those styles.

>>73704465
>he thinks math rock means it follows a mathematical pattern

I know this is bait but math rock is the most misnamed genre of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGi9SOFX5rc

>>73706674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWGcV50E-o
The feels are real.

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>>73706610
>fantasy metal
haha what? You don't anything about metal.

>>73706610
and what music isn't embarrassing to listen to?

>>73706744
Have you checked out Damon's other project?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2P6lysGo0c

>>73706861
More listenable because it doesn't try too hard to be avant-teen bait.

>>73706788
autistic metal fan is mad that i dont know all his little autism genres. im sorry should i have mentioned symphonic metal or pirate metal instead.

>>73706610
Everyone likes bashing metal fans for being autistic retards but none remembers that jazz musicians play music for pseudo-intellectual snobs that think playing a polyrhythm is the epitome of musicianship.

>>73707027
lmao, listen to the first song before saying that.

>>73707294
Still better than the entirety of what burns never returns.
If I ever actually hated an album it's that one.

>>73704465
Clearly you haven't heard tricot.

>>73707338
That's crazy. It's probably one the album that got me into ''obscure'' music. I still listen to it pretty often. What did you not like about it? The aimless wankery?

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>>73705777
nigger listen to 21st Century Schizoid Man and tell me that's bad drumming