>"hip-hop is carrying the torch of viscera and rebellion

fuck off melon

>>73629551
well rock music sucks now so yes

>>73629551
No because black metal exists.

>>73629551
>>73629567
>questioning the best teeth in the fucking game
plebs

he has a point, extension is going in a similar direction as rock in the 90s

damn he unironically uses the word normie

>>73629569
>implying any music being made today is good

>>73629593
>le best teeth in game maymay
You must be 18 or older to post here

>>73629551

No, go take some fucking rogaine.

Rock was actual rebellion against a social order that was deemed unfair whereas rap and hip hop would collapse without suburban middle class white kids.

There is nothing to rebel against anymore, the values that they want upheld are already institutionalized by now. Neo Nazis are literally closer to counterculture

>>73629551

Not as long as metal is a thing. The people playing 2-minute of blast beats with some fat fuck growling over it is always going to be more rebellious than anything in Hip Hop or rap just because of how inaccessible it is to about 80-90% of the population. Hip Hop is way too accesible (even at its more extreme) to ever be considered rebellious by anyone who isn't racist.

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Show me the last time an hip hop album was rebellious enough to make a 20 minutes long song.

>>73631402
Metal hasn't had fresh developments happen to it in years, nor is it accessible enough to truly be an anthem for rebellion for the people, nor has it ever been counterculture (not part of the culture either though.)

Metal just doesn't have that kind of cultural influence since it's about booze, dragon, and satan.

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>>73631449
This incredible album from 2016 might change your mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4brqp2Y0Fc

>>73631521
Nigga we have had psychedelic sounding Black Metal since goddamn 2001 maybe even earlier.

What are the rap artists of today rebelling against exactly? Gone are the days of Public Enemy and militant hip-hop. Much like punk rock, hip-hop has devolved into a hugely profitable, spiritually bankrupt entertainment industry that celebrates its own excesses and hedonism.

>>73631449
how has it not been counterculture?

>>73631552
>>73631552
idk this still sounds like a pretty unique album to me. and it's also really fucking good

>>73631347
>Rock was actual rebellion against a social order that was deemed unfair
Nostalgia talking

>>73631643
this

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Being the "Cool kid in school that claims to be a huge rebel" isn't actually being rebellious.

The real rebels are the nerds who dare to do unpopular things and break social norms

Hip hip is one of the most successful, commercial, and marketed forms of "music" in modern history easily consumed by both the masses and mass media; not to mention exploited. Absolute tripe.

>>73631739
That's just an indictment of the taste and intelligence of modern people.

>>73631449
>nor is it accessible enough to truly be an anthem for rebellion

This is some paradoxical stuff right here. If it's accesible to be recognize by the mainstream then it's not genuinely rebellious. You can't have crossover appeal with Taylor Swiff and Kanye fans and consider yourself truly rebellious. Authentic rebellion is off-putting and an acquired taste. It's true that Metal has gone stale, but it's still completely off-putting the majority of people.

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Music was more rebellious back in the 60s, 70s etc because the western population was much younger due to the baby boom. Now, collapsing birth rates have left us with and older and more restrained populace.

>>73631686
Shut up, nerd.

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https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/04/07/most-popular-music-genres-america/

Rock is still more popular than hip-hop. and this chart is from america, the heart of hip-hop land

>>73631686
you are the worst tripfag

>>73631787
I like him
>>73631777
>>73631777
>>73631777
no bully plz

>>73631621
Metal never straight up railed against culture like punk rock or those antiwar 60s/early 70s guys did. Sure you had like Metallica or Megadeth occasionally talk about war n politics n injustice, but it was never such an overt thing that they actively pushed. This is also not even going into how relatively inaccessible metal as a whole has been which also makes it very tough to be a countercultural force because it can't get as many people to its side.
>>73631609
Everything from hip hop traditions to the current government regime to police to unfortunate negative stereotypes related to murder. Not to mention that a lot of things they talk about since the days of Reagan are still there as well though not as bad.
>>73631633
Good record. Very niche though.
>>73631761
But at the same time you can't have a legitimate counterculture if you make your music straight up inaccessible because then there won't be enough people for a counterculture.

>hip-hop
>one of the genres that is mostly used as background music everywhere
>rebellious

Yeah I bet Nickelback fans feel like they can take over the world when they listen to their favorite song by them, yet no one calls them "rebel" because it's actually pretty damn normal. Liking Hip Hop is as rebel as something like being a Nirvana fan in the early 90's.

>>73631739
You mean rock 30 years ago?

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>>73631888
Exactly.

Most Hip-Hop is very radio friendly and not rebellious in the slightest.

Death Grips are genuinely rebellious though

>>73631856
>But at the same time you can't have a legitimate counterculture if you make your music straight up inaccessible because then there won't be enough people for a counterculture

Metal has millions upon millions of fans. The rock counterculture you're referring to was just mainstream culture, which is always changing. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stomes, Jimi Hendrix were all mainstream figures propt by big mainstream labels. Nothing really counter about it. Modern metal has about the same following as punk did during the 80-90s more or less with bands like Fugaz.

>>73631784
>Rock is still more popular than hip-hop
Among people who pay for music

>>73631888
Something can be popular and rebellious at the same time. That's how countercultures and giant waves of rebellion are made, you retard. Are Syrian rebels also not rebels because there's a fuck ton of them in Syria and they are everywhere?

Kanye said it first and everyone laughed at him.

In no way OP was talking about accessibility of the music.

>>73629551
To judge "rock" is kind of idiotic because "rock" doesn't exist anymore. Sometime in the 90s it splintered into like 500 different subgenres and adopted traits from 500 other genres. For a while it hung on as a blanket term for "guitar-based pop music that places an emphasis on live performance" but go look at the top tracks on the billboard rock chart now and what do you see? Shit like Imagine Dragons. 21 Pilots, and Gorillaz. Studio-based music that has more to do with electronic and hip hop music than what I just defined as "rock."

Today "rock" is little more than a marketing term for fragments of pop music that are sold as subversive or boundary pushing or "alternative." It has fragmented twenty times over by now, which is a defining trait of modern media

I think hip hop is just entering this stage so it still has a sense of cohesion and identity. It is exciting to watch it separate, like how it was exciting to watch rock separate in the 90s. But when it collapses (and it's already starting) there will be no distinction between hip hop and rock and electronica. It will all just be pop music and innumerable niches of pop

>>73631979
>Are Syrian rebels also not rebels because there's a fuck ton of them in Syria and they are everywhere?

They're only "rebels" cause that's what the government calls them. They could just as well be referred to as terrorist, seperatist, oppositional forces, etc.

>>73631944
>Metal has millions upon millions of fans.
Which are spread across the world and never organized for anything outside their music.
>The rock counterculture you're referring to was just mainstream culture, which is always changing. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stomes, Jimi Hendrix were all mainstream figures propt by big mainstream labels. Nothing really counter about it.
This is fucking bullshit considering the sheer amount of anti-govt/anti-war stuff all of those guys (maybe except the Stones) did during that period of time. Again, popularity doesn't implicate not being rebellious.

>>73632010
Fantano's getting laughed at too

>>73632052
They are literally an anti-regime force though. Rebels through and through, but also large in number and mainstream.

He's late to the party.

Hip hop used to be that. It's an entirely commercial genre now that has been juxtaposed from it's origins of authenticity.

Hip hop isn't rebelling against anything. Trap is the new pop. It's a genre that has only gained influence because of the increased commercialization and accessibility to a lower denomination of listeners, which is why sheltered white privileged people like Fantano have taken to it in recent years.

There isn't really a genre right now that captures the struggles of the ordinary person very well, and it definitely isn't hip hop anymore.

>>73632054
>considering the sheer amount of anti-govt/anti-war stuff

Literally means nothing. Sinatra had antiwar stuff. Being against the Vietnam War was literally the prevailing sentiment at the time. LBJ didn't run for reelection because of it. The Democratic National convention was overrun because of it and the election stolen. The county was split in half. It's not really a counterculture. It's like today with the Trump and anti-Trump. You're not countercultre for beig anti-Trump.

>>73630665
back to your AC/DC playlists

>>73632054

There's a bif difference between groups like The Beatles, Pink Floyd, And Jimi Hendrix and groups like Mothers of Invention, Captain Beefheart and the Velvet Underground. The former were very popular, mainstream musicians making music that went along with the popular styles and approach of the time and the latter were groups that although influenced by the former were radically different in their approach, aesthetic and style.

>>73631347
the black power movement is the rebellion pr much. too bad all the music that came from it was awful and the movement itself is retarded

>>73631347
>Rock was actual rebellion against a social order that was deemed unfair
punk rock, and even then itd be anarchist or politicized punk

The hip hop people like Fantano think is "cutting edge and rebellious" is listened to mostly by tech bros and sorority girls where I live.

Arguably the biggest name in hip hop right now, Migos, collaborated with Katy Perry. Is that rebellious?

Hip hop represents hedonism, commercialization, pandering to lowest common denominator of listener, and staying with the bounds of what is popular, which is my most hip hop is centered around abusing drugs, self destructive tendencies, capitalistic propaganda, and political propaganda.

People on the fringes of society who are breaking new ground aren't listening to the same hip hop that Fantano is reviewing. People on the streets listen to local artists who you can only hear on third party websites and through social media in niche internal networks. The culture that hip hop promotes is rapidly becoming obsolete.

>>73632194
>I think shitty music is actually good

>>73632129
>Literally means nothing.
Wrong everywhere. Sinatra had antiwar stuff, but it's the same example as the one I gave of Metallica where it didn't mean anything. The anti-Vietnam stuff was NOT the prevailing sentiment until years into the war. Till the end of 67 you still had a whopping 48% that agreed with the war.

>The county was split in half.
You mean like Syria is split into many pieces of large factions? Like fuck dude I gave the Syrian rebels example for this reason exactly.

>It's like today with the Trump and anti-Trump. Republican majority within political structure.

>>73632106
maybe rage against the machine will get back together now that chris cornell is never going to reunite audioslave

>>73632194
back to listening to meme rappers off of youtube

>>73632232
Yes, but the former rallied people for causes that were countercultural at the time, the latter had nowhere near that kind of cultural effect. It's impossible to have an effective movement of rebellion or counterculture if you aren't popular.

I can name artists that would be considered far more rebellious than stuff like TVU or Beefheart from that time because those guys are nowhere near the most experimental guys, but while those people were musically rebellious, none created giant waves of rebellion and counterculture.

>>73632291

Of half the country is either for or against something it's jot really rebellion as much as it's opposing ideas. It's not rebellious to disagree with the government unless it's marginal. Example, it's not rebllious to say that Marijuana ahould be legal. That's a highky supported position even if maybe not the majority position. However, it's very rebellious to say that heroin should be legal; this is a fringe position that the overwhelming majority are against.

>>73632417

Those movement occured entirely without them. They just propogated them and rode them. The beatles were making doodlely love songs by the time the war was well on it's way. The sentiment grew without them and eventually caught up to them.

>>73629551

of he means niggers dressing in drag and singing in autotune then yes

>>73632262
>Hip hop represents hedonism, commercialization, pandering to lowest common denominator of listener, and staying with the bounds of what is popular, which is my most hip hop is centered around abusing drugs, self destructive tendencies, capitalistic propaganda, and political propaganda.

Come on, all the "rebellious" shit of rock goes around the "drugs, sex and rock and roll" motto.

You rock-tards need to remember that all the big rock acts of the past were as hedonistic as hip hop is today, but, of course, in a time where society weren't as open.

>>73632491
That's what killed rock, and that's what's killing hip hop. It went commercial and got popular, which is exactly what's happening to hip hop.

Hip hop is for white people who want to seem hard but haven't struggled a day in their life. It's just glorified party music now.

>>73632429
>Of half the country is either for or against something it's jot really rebellion as much as it's opposing ideas.
It is when all sorts of protests and movements rise up from it. The "alt right" can be considered this to an extent as well.
>It's not rebellious to disagree with the government unless it's marginal.
This statement makes no sense. Might wanna look up what marginal means.
>Example, it's not rebllious to say that Marijuana ahould be legal.
It still is in most places since the establishment still has harsh punishments for it. But not as rebellious as it once used to be.
>That's a highky supported position even if maybe not the majority position.
Again, you aren't getting it. Things that are highly supported can be rebellious. Anything from US gaining independence from UK to Syrian rebels fighting off Asad's regime and ISIS to the Boxer rebellion.

>>73629551
More like dip-hop, because everyone that listens to it is a dipshit

He's right, but it's not exactly a damning conclusion to come to...

>>73632462
The summer of love along with other moments in 1967 were literally when war sentiments started going downwards with I think the first majority of people being antiwar happening around that time based on polls. Anyone that isn't Scaruffi will admit to how influential Sgt. Peppers was around this time.

>>73631434

>long song = good song

nice meme

go back to listening to Swans nerd

>>73631784
>Jazz at 2%
Last time I checked, it wasn't even at 1%
Is it coming back boys???

It's hilarious how hip hop went from the most authentic and woke genre to the corniest and fakest shit.

I blame white people.

>>73631434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZeu29nOwjw

You know that hip hop has had long tracks before, right? Rapper's Delight is 14 minutes long for example.

>>73629551
white power is the only true counterculture of our age

>>73632815
>from the most authentic and woke genre
They were over-exaggeration as far back as those NWA days, my man. Most of those west coast guys used to over-exaggerate. For what it's worth we have "real" guys these days. Shmurda is still in jail for his murder. Mane just got out. Kevin Gates is finally getting mainstream praise after being out of jail long enough to finally release a real LP. Kendrick's anything but fake, too for someone that wasn't directly involved with such stuff.

>>73632815
WE

>>73632913
>Crime = real
You are the problem.

Hip hop in its origin was good because it represented overcoming an overwhelmingly hostile environment through their own force of will. I could give a fuck about how much you fucked your life up over stupid shit. That doesn't make anyone cool, and it nobody outside of high school thinks that shit is cool.

You k

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>>73632815
>to the corniest and fakest shit
we wuz comic book characters n shieeet

>>73629551
>rock
>rebellion

Hey dad I'm growing my hair long and singing about the devil I'm so a rebel

>>73631347
You think that there weren't rock groups in it for the money using rebellion just as an image and that weren't supported by suburban middle class white kids? You don't think that there are hip hop artists today that rap about legitimate issues that many people are facing?
Your post could use a little bit more nuance.

>>73629551
hip hop is pop culture entertainment, not music (with exceptions). it's not visceral or rebellious, it's audio reality tv and the most corporate/establishment genre out there

I agree that rock is mostly dead, but there's much better electronic music than hip hop

>>73632968
>Hip hop in its origin was good because it represented overcoming an overwhelmingly hostile environment through their own force of will.
So...like Kendrick Lamar? Killer Mike? El-P? Danny Brown? Lil Ugly Mane? Are you fucking kidding me, dude? Not to mention that the most popular shit back then wasn't even the people that did this, but those that took a cinematic overthetop take on the stuff like NWA, Tupac, Snoop, etc.

>>73631347
>whereas rap and hip hop would collapse without suburban middle class white kids.
The fuck do you think people in the ghettos listen to? Free jazz? NSBM?

>the values that they want upheld are already institutionalized by now
That's why the values themselves have changed. It's how progressive thinking goes.

Kek this is worse than saying "Social networks are carrying the torch of viscera and rebellion that TV used to and given up on"

It's the same shit in different color made to cater to as much people possible, just because people think that meaningless garbage that "potrays real life just liek it is" is the same as actually making a controversial statement doesn't mean something is rebellious. Funny how most of the time music that doesn't even have anything to do with issues of [the current year] is the one that changes a generation the most, since, this may come as shocking, most people listen to music for escapism. Most self proclaimed political or conscious artists are garbage anyway.

>>73633564
>Most self proclaimed political or conscious artists are garbage anyway.
some notable exceptions:
simon & garfunkel
bob dylan
neil young

Hip hop as an artistic and cultural vehicle is dying.

Hip hop as a commercial enterprise is thriving.

None of you can convince me otherwise.

>>73633564
>Social networks are carrying the torch of viscera and rebellion that TV used to and given up on
tv was never seen as a rebellious viceral outlet, always as a means of escapism and entertainment. I get your point but you could make the argument that rap and rock are rebellious

>>73633648
is trap music hip hops hair metal?

>>73631347
>rap and hip hop would collapse without suburban middle class white kids.
this

>>73633499
>The fuck do you think people in the ghettos listen to? Free jazz? NSBM?

>people in ghettos pay for music
just stop lying, anon. you know that is not true

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>>73633794
You tell me.

>>73631347
>rap and hip hop would collapse without suburban middle class white kids

Unironically this. Most concerts like Kendrick and 'Trappers' are filled with guilt-ridden young White adults and the West-coast scene only thrives due to bored White suburban teenagers buying their albums to listen and experience the narrative of a 'gangbanger'.

By far, Blacks should thank us Whites for bringing their shitty culture into the mainstream, economic-wise is important but I guess it is racist to tell these.

>>73633804
>people in the ghettos pay for music
Nobody pays for music these days.

>>73633850
White people ruined hip hop.

>>73633848
what will be hip hop's grunge?

>>73633881
would hip hop have lasted as long as it has without white people

>>73633881
>Jews ruined hip hop

Fixed it for you.

>>73633935
That's like asking if the native americans would still be alive without white people

>>73633958
>muh strawman

Wrong

>>73633958
>if the native americans would still be alive without white people
not the same thing because WITHOUT whites, natives would still be here. But in the case of hip hop if not for whites, it wouldn't have survived for so long.
>>73633935

>>73633999
It's the same thing. Without whites native americans wouldn't be an alcoholic gambling addicted mess of a minority.

>>73634038
>Without whites native americans wouldn't be an alcoholic gambling addicted mess of a minority
alright so whites ruin everything? nice moving goalposts btw since you wrote in the original strawman that they would be ALIVE if not for whites and now you're saying they're alcoholics because of whites.

Now back to my original point, would hip hop have survived so long if not for whites. I dont think so personally

>>73634091
You really think everyone on the planet would stop listening to a genre just because white people stopped partying to it?

People still listen to disco. People still listen to tibetan throat singing.

Being on the radio =/= alive

>>73633862
normie white suburban teens do

>>73633850
this

>>73633958
lol, what an awful analogy

>>73634197
samefag

>>73634178
Not really any more than others if we go by percentage. The only reason this whole "muh white people keeping it alive" is even a thing is because they are the largest population that gets exposed to the medium.

>>73629551
everything has been commodified to hell and back. It is not longer possible to even maintain the illusion of a 'counterculture' that exists in meaningful opposition to anything.

'popular music criticism' is not possible anymore, its ideology can no longer be believed in, not even as a comforting illusion. the concept of 'relevant' music was always inseparable from the commodity hyping cycle. 'rockism', 'poptimism', 'end of year lists', 'independent music', 'rock'n'roll', 'punk rock', 'the torch of viscera and rebellion' are all empty concepts lying squarely in the dustbin of history, no more meaningful than old soap jingles and discarded slogans. We have no culture of our own, only an undefined and all enveloping sense of loathing and unease. Lacking the sense of identity and grounding previous generations had, we clutch to worn music industry commodities, the endless repetition of memes, and vague ethnoracial resentments .

on his nojumper interview he unironically promotes the horseshoe theory and they talk about it for two hours.

he's more clueless about class, money, etc.
than i thought lol. i guess you cam't expect someone in a youtube monetary bubble to understand the world

>>73631760
If you agree anon is referring to a collective then you're proving him right. Which he is.

>>73634240
no, I'm this anon >>73633804. I didn't post anywhere else except to that response to me. How about actually responding to me than wrongly calling me a samefag?

>>73634247
>Not really any more than others if we go by percentage.
holy shit, you disproved me!

>>73633935
>>73633850
>the West-coast scene only thrives due to bored White suburban teenagers buying their albums to listen and experience the narrative of a 'gangbanger'.

nothing in your life is real. you either chase after the commodified 'realness' value said to be inherent in 'black culture' or you LARP as le redpill online.

>>73634555
only if you live in the suburbs and have no identity or personality

>>73634555
you are delusional if you think hip hop in America would be as immense as it is today without "bored White suburban teenagers buying their albums to listen and experience the narrative of a 'gangbanger'. "

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>>73631347
Go over to /pol. There's nothing to rebel against? Bull shit. Anything worth rebelling against would never see the light of day because who owns all the lables, all the studios, all the venues etc...just like no real news is on T.V. Real news still exists.

Were in a dark age. Except this time we have vaccines, cars and handheld screens.

>>73634278
How is the horseshoe theory incorrect? Was Nazi Germany not similar to Soviet Russia?

>>73629551
Yeah

Any anti-Trump song, hip-hop or rock applies.

>>73634590
>>73634587


I agree with you wholeheartedly. commodity marketing depends on an alienated consumer base. it's been like that forever.

>>73631347
This

>>73632830
Lmao name literally one >14 minute rap song that isn't rapper's delight

>>73635005
Dude, I posted a link to June 27 by Dj Screw in that very post...it's 35 minutes long.

>>73631434
So on top of being a retarded, autistic, jewfag, you're also a lewronggenerationer? Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>73629551
Being rebellious isn't a virtue in and of itself. Being different doesn't make something good. /mu/ will hopefully understand this someday

>>73633917
It's coming soon if Trap last the same amount of time as Hair Metal it won't be too long

>>73634278

soviet russia was nothing like nazi germany you 8th grader. how the fuck

"dey both had mean guys!"

yeah basically. the last truly rebellious rock movement was screamo, but that quickly become overdone and self indulgent.

>>73629551
This is something he lifted from a copy of Rolling Stone that came out in 1995

>>73629551
ehhhhh kinda more like poppy/mainstream hip hop is the most accessible music right now so people use it to send certain messages that are consistently apparent in music also pop has become straight up hip hop infused garbage

fantano is the most popular music critic of all time

inb4 lester bangsfags come at me

fantano has billions of views

less than 1000 people ever read a lester bangs or scaruffi review

it makes total sense that he is frequently discussed as he is and will continue to be the most popular music critic of all times.

whole lotta butthurt rockfags ITT

>>73631347
mfw you alt right fags actually think this

>>73629551
He'd be right if this was 1995.

>>73635806
not him but corporations and politicians all espouse the same 'edgy' shit that punk/rock musicians 'stood' for in the 70s and 80s

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>>73629551
All genres of music are capable of rebellious themes as well as fascist themes.

However rap music is the most highly corporate music in the fucking world right now, pretty much everyone in the world listens to it, to say that is the rebellious genre is fucking laughable.

It's like saying that paying your fucking taxes is rebellious.

Sorry mate, I don't think club banger number 266 ft. nu-Kanye and Kendrick is rebellious. Especially when it's sitting at the top of the charts until Club Banger 267 comes out.

What is it with these go with the flow dudes who listen to the same shit everyone else is listening to thinking they're rebels? There's nothing wrong with doing what everyone else is doing if that's what you want to do, just don't start thinking you're a fucking rebel for it.

Fucking Memetano I swear. Internets laziest music nerd.

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>>73635885
about 5 or 6 out of 16

>>73629551
>Thinks music still needs to be rebellious

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>>73629551
>given up

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>>73631434
this is pretty close, there's an 18 minute long song and it ends up being 2 hours long

>>73635005
sing about me/dying of thirst

>>73637459
12 minutes

>>73632815
WE WUZ GANGSTAS N SHIEEEET

>>73631521
>2016
>not terminal redux
fuck off

>>73629551
Rock is too worried about being cool than kicking ass these days, so yeah.

It's the come about, it'll come around again.

>muh viscera
>muh rebellion
things that don't matter as much as fantano thinks

>>73637713
Said prog-rock in the mid 70's.

Then came punk. Then came Kiss.

>>73635984
>However rap music is the most highly corporate music in the fucking world right now
Why? Why do you or any of the other idiots in this topic actually believe this?

Hip hop lost its top spot a couple years back. Outside the established for years artists like Drake, the majority of the world does EDM far more than hip hop. EDM is the corporate mainstay right now, not hip hop. Even Taylor Swift, Justin Beiber, and Ed Sheeran people with no history in such music have in recent years moved to EDM.

This whole "hip hop is muh corporate" doesn't really work anymore. It's just in that secondary "somewhat popular but the big mainstream thing" spot that rock music kinda fell into after the 70s.

>>73629551
>torch of viscera and rebellion
shit like this is why im glad i play keys, i can just sit there with my hat and t-shirt on while everyone else in the band talks about "muh expression"

i just wanna make cool sounds man fuck the rest of whatever you think music is

>>73633137
mf doom doesn't treat those ideas in a corny way

>>73635984
Rebellion is not to be found in the sphere of music commodities. It only exists within the arena of violence and political extremism.

>>73632262
>there are tons of obscure intranets for cutting edge rappers in every local scene that only the most hardcore thugs know about and this is everywhere yet it is an extremely well-kept secret
Rapfags everyone. Name one """woke""" or """innovative""" rapper who everyone on /mu/ hasn't already heard of.

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>The entire concept of being a "rebel" in 2017

>>73631914
>Death Grips
>not radio friendly

>>73631914
https://www.discogs.com/Death-Grips-Ive-Seen-Footage/release/7081386
this is the only one song that was remade strictly for radio stations, but you can be sure there are lots of other death grips songs that get played on radio. their overall sound is very poppy, just a bit noisier that your regular hip-hop
I dont listen to radio btw

>>73633804
People in the ghetto usually don't have internet to pirate music, at least where I live. So most people do indeed buy music.

>>73632297
Why not? I'd be stoked.

>>73638727
beats being a numale fed on soy and enslaved to ZOG.

link to the video where he says it

>>73633917
Can't wait for the anti-bling and acoustic sets.

it doesn't matter how corporate rap has become. as long as a majority of parents hate it and the kids love it, it's rebellious.

>>73630665
quit projecting your depression onto everything

>>73634178
No they don't. Everyone either uses spotify or still does youtube-to-mp3 downloading.

t. someone who graduated two years ago.

ITT:

>I don't like rap music and I think i'm super edgy and counter-culture therefore he's wrong. also fuck nu-males

>>73640169
The other half of the thread: numales screeching in pain because their fundamental un manliness and cuckoldom has been exposed by the swole aryan übermensch of /pol/

>>73640081
Late capitalism is an hyperfuxxed deathscape, a tunnel with no light at the end. We are all gonna make it F A M

>>73629551
hip-hop is the most decadent, yet lazy art form now....it doesn't stand for anything..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBotY_n27VA

>>73629551
Hate to say it but he's right