Is anyone else enjoying the fuck out of this album? I love the

>>73544250
bout to do a 2nd listen. whats ur favorite songs off it

>>73544250
I'm glad that a pretty mainstream artist took a pretty experimental step, hopefully this helps push hip-hop culture away from trap and into more interesting stuff

>>73544295
eh trap has a lot of room to grow into actually
only instance so far has been rodeo and it's artsy approach, but even travis hasnt been consistent with that direction

danny brown and vince are going left of field, so i wouldnt be surprised at others doing so too
rocky did a few times on his last project, but nothing i cared for

Bought it because SOPHIE

>>73544275
That's really hard. There wasn't a single weak moment in my opinion. That Kendrick feature caught me by surprise and blew my expectations out of the water.

>>73544250
how the fuck is this innovative? it sounds like he paid aphex twin $20 bucks, got some half assed fl studio beats in return and made an album out of the

>>73544250

>Anyone else enjoying this album?
>You know the album that has 3 threads currently in the catalog
>the album that has had a minimum of 2 threads about it on the front page for the last 72 hours
>Does anyone like this album? anyone?

Literally use your fucking eyes you fuck

I've listened to it 3 times so far. It's pretty good, but I wish it was a little longer

>>73544427
You probably thought Atrocity Exhibition was innovative

>>73544373
illegally downloaded because sophie*
>>73544463
strong take

>>73544536
innovative? no
better than this? yes

>>73544250
Amazing so far. Apparently it's incredible on headphones. What should I expect?

>>73544645
>better than this? yes
Literally how

>>73544295
I don't get it
What's the experiment supposed to be
A fish?

tahts a big fish

>>73544698
literally alternative hiphop

>>73544250
I admit I thought it was pretty mediocre on my first listen but I'm on my third now it's really amazing, the quality of this project is insane

>>73544731

you didn't explain anything danny is "alternative" hiphop too

>>73544698
Literally in literally every literal way. This has objectively bad songs like bagbak and rain come down, plus it has interludes and Vince singing. This also has atrocious hooks, and is way too short, making the record feel empty and not fleshed out.

>>73544698
see >>73544427

>>73544770
>>73544731
>Alternative hip hop
Everything is alternative hip hop if you reach hard enough.

>>73544359
rodeo isn't the only good or experimental trap album, and id argue its not even one of the best. also trap instrumentals have been gaining a ton of popularity with non-trap artists recently, who are sometimes more willing to innovate around them.

>>73545015
post examples, i've only been exploring grime, uk drill, dancehall, and afropop

>>73545225
examples of more creative/progressive types of trap? check out young thug to start off. also pretty much anything produced by metro boomin is great, check out his recent collaboration with Gucci "drop top wop". this sort of music gets discounted a lot but I think its really been moving forward in recent years. to me it just sounds mercurial and futuristic, like the lamborghini of instrumental styles. Part of that is probably the fast high hats, but it also has a lot to do with other sounds typically used in instrumentals like these. Shit you can even find examples on big fish theory. See intermittent trap hats in Yeah Right, or just the entirety of 745 although thats not as much of a futuristic feel.

If you're looking for examples of trap instrumentals used by not trap artists, you should have already heard some based on the examples you listed. Also just listen to any rap album out this year, its like a 90% chance there will be at least one song on there with an instrumental that is trap based or at least borrows elements from trap.

Trap music is the future.

>>73544784
bagbak is not a bad song. turn your ears on man embrace that flow and that bounce.

>>73545392
ok clearly you and i have different definitions of artsy trap
pornography, 90210, oh my dis side, alright, impossible, i can tell, the intro to maria im drunk

all instances of travis executing trap in a level that hasn't been done, and even he hasn't able to do since

drop top wop is classic gucci, not groundbreaking
young thug has a different approach every time

>Part of that is probably the fast high hats
a classic indication of a beat being trap and not anything new or next level

yeah right was no where near an experimental trap song

trap music has been the dominant sound for years now

>>73545624
and what is next level about those songs? sure they sound more expensive than a lot of other trap and they're really good, but it seems like to you "artsy trap"(please use a different term, that wack as fuck, respectfully) equals a more commercial sound or more moving parts in the song. Even still, this has been done since, by many artists. Name a rapper and you can probably find a trap instrumental they've at least hopped on. Look at The Heart Pt. 4 by Kendrick, just a recent example. clearly has trap elements, but still maintains a high level of quality, 3 beat switches, etc. This isnt even a very good example, just one that jumped into my head.

Anyways, you weren't commenting on artsy trap in your original reply(assuming thats you), more making it sound like the only growth into maturity trap has had is rodeo, which I think is pretty ridiculous. If you can't understand that a trap song isnt made great by bells and whistles, but by the melodies played over the beat and the vocal performance/bars, then its probably just not for you. Thats no reason to insinuate that the only valid or mature project ever to come out of the genre is Rodeo, which I agree is good but not some revolution like you're claiming.

also you said you'd only been exploring grime, uk drill, dancehall, and afropop. I didn't know "classic Gucci" fell into those categories. It seemed that you hadnt heard much trap, and I thought I might point you towards some new material which I actually think is an improvement on "classic gucci". I think he's been tighter lately, and metro beats are really what I was trying to get at.

Young Thug does have a slightly different approach every time. I have no idea how that makes him non "artsy" or less progressive. Seems like it would make him more.

Also no shit fast high hats are a classic part of trap, I was just going up my own ass about my enjoyment of the genre.

>>73545624
Also Yeah Right has one little hit of trap drums near the beginning, go back and listen. Pretty fun use imo.

We agree on the last point, I just can't see how you can realize that but not see the genre progressing or maturing.

>>73546127
even look at Lil Uzi Vert, regardless of his image, he's a pop-trap pioneer.

>>73544427
This. Heard the album because everyone kept recommending it to me. Is this what people call innovating? The only people who say something that retarded are the ones who probably don't listen to other genres

It's fantastic. Ramona Park Is Yankee Stadium not being labeled as an interlude is weird, bit it basically makes the album flow like two EPs. First half basically sounds like Broke With Expensive Taste while the second half pushes more towards a Yeezus PC Music hybrid. Does the water rap theme better than Le1f and Yachty.

Kilo Kish killed all her features. even just saying "way up" in Samo elevates the fuck out of the track

>>73546110
it's okay, some people didn't start listening to rap music until rodeo so they really have no idea the origins or progression of it all. you're 100% correct.

>>73546164
people who listen to hip hop seriously do not belong here

>>73546351
you're on 4chan.

who the fuck thought that rap over uk garage would go over well? This album is like a 4

>>73546370
yeah exactly, this is 4chan not reddit

>>73544275
745 and Big Fish. I like Yeah Right but the bass was poorly mixed, reminded me of DNA

>>73546351
>pls don't discuss one of the most influential genres of the past several decades

anyone got a download link?

>>73546504
name one (1) good non hip hop album that was influenced by bullshit trap music

>>73546201
Is Rodeo that influential? I just find it hard to believe that's a lot of people's first rap album. I thought Birds in the Trap was better anyways.

>>73544250
>ukg beats, made by people that don't know how to produce ukg well
>innovative

really makes you think

>>73546708
this sentence is nearly completely incoherent but the opinion that I think you're trying to express is wrong

>>73544295
>Pretty mainstream
>Vince Staples
get off the internet

>>73546632
probably more influential/prominent in trap music as a subset than rap as a whole, and very well could have been many people's first trap album, especially around here because fantano scored it high so now its "artsy trap" "in a level that hasn't been done"

>>73546884
>has a kendrick feature
>not mainstream

>>73546884
kys if you think vc isn't mainstream

normie as fuck

>>73544250
He peaked with Summertime '06, which was very good. He's been getting progressively worse since.

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I'm on my first listen, right now I'm on SAMO

So far the entire album has pretty much sounded like something they would put as background music in a generic nightclub in a detective show that is being investigated because the owner is accused of raping someone.

>>73544376
same hare.
but i think Yeah Right favorite

shoot my gun, hate cops, california, young black man, money, real nigga, cuh, white man, crippin

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>hip hop

LMAO

>>73547695
aka just edm

>>73544250
>Mixing electronic music with hip hop
>Innovative
Like holy shit I really liked this but please stop.

>>73546884
you're retarded

he's mainstream as fck

lmao this album isn't good

vince samples oneohtrix point never in the first song btw

>>73547405
Underground rappers can even get Kendrick verses he's not exclusive, also this is the first Kendrick feature that comment implies Vince was mainstream before this album

>>73545392
>Trap music is the future

lol what? its been going on for like 8 years now and im bored af of it

>>73550881
you mean his producers

>>73544250
really good. sounds like a fusion of London and SoCal.

>>73547405
>>73547494
>>73550370
No all 3 of you are retarded, tell me when Vince is getting radioplay.

If you're not on the radio, you're not mainstream.

If a non-hiphop internet kid hasn't heard of you, you're not mainstream.

Deleted Rain Come Down, it's fucking trash andI can't believe it was a good way to end such a banger of an album.
Big Fish, Love Can Be, 745 and Yeah Right are all amazing. Could also do without that pseudo-intellectual interlude.
>Dude love is a drug woah

>>73552533
>3 million monthly listeners on Spotify
>not mainstream

Whatever you say

BOY YEAH RIGHT YEAH RIGHT YEAH RIGHT

Best songs
>Crabs In A Bucket
>Big Fish
>Love Can Be
>BagBak

Hate the hook on Rain Come Down. Wasn't crazy bout Yeah Right, especially the middle part, it sounds too jarring.

>>73552729
The kdot verses saved yeah right tho.

>>73550969
>thinks trap music has only been going on for like 8 years now

are you 8 years old?

>>73552623
that was amy winehouse

>>73552727
BOY YEAH RIGHT YEAH RIGHT YEAH RIGHT

Sounds unreal in a car.

>>73544427
kek'd

>>73545392

Matt OX is the logical conclusion to trap music. It's over

>>73544250
How did this innovate at all

SAMO is fucking nasty, SOPHIE did a good fucking job here.

this album is amazing. definitely aoty material

>>73556383
yep the sophiie contributions do fit in very nicely.

i also love how he repurposes THESE NIGGERS CAN'T HOLD ME BACK from ricky ross in homage

good beats bad bars

>>73552533
I heard Vince on the radio a while ago. On Norwegian radio, I mind you

good beats good bars

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I WAS UP LATE NIGHT BALLIN

>>73546611
Damn
Jeffery
Good Kid MAAD City
Trap Lord
Imperial

>>73550891
Agreed. He's on Def Jam ffs.

>>73544250
the lows are fucking lit, but there are some weak tracks on here (love can be)

>>73559030
Love can be is amazing you gay

>>73552533
stupid nigger vince is on the radio

>>73544250
I've heard this type of production on several UK Grime albums

But also UK Grime sucks because of the annoying accents so yeah I like this album

>>73553083
Yea, right

Album of the year so far imo. Tied with DAMN.

>>73552533
non-hiphop internet kid here
I've heard of him

>>73545392

>recommending young thug

Fucking everyone has listened to Young Thug you spastic

>>73552533
He gets radio play here in Australia you dopey cunt.

This has got to be the most contrarian website on the internet. It's pathetic as fuck. The ridiculous levels of shit fighting is over nothing.

>inb4 newcunt

>>73560904
>inb4 newcunt

If the glove fits

Loving the album, don't know why people are underwhelmed by the release.

Also is that Damon at the beginning of Love Can Be...?

>>73560946
Been here since 09. I just realised how the statement would make me appear to you faggots.

>>73561073
Probably. He's on the album. It's a fantastic album btw. Enjoy it. Tied with DAMN. for me. So manymemorable moments. 745 though.

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>>73561217
Yeah 745 is one of my favorites too.

tfw the Amy Winehouse sample on the interlude.

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>>73545392
>Gucci Mane of all people is experimental
>trap is just rattling high-hats
negro please
trap can't pass soon enough, I'm tired of hearing about different ways to interact with pussy

>>73545392
>Trap music is the future.

Trap music is the nail in the coffin for hip hop. It's the most mediocre genre, and the appeal isn't even about music. It's entirely based on the cultural content, and that culture is rapidly becoming obsolete. I pity you if you truly believe this.

Rolling hi hats instantly mark a mediocre track for me, I immediately reach for the skip button.

>>73561269
Whole thing has golden moments. Kendricks feature on Yeah Right is pure unadulterated flames.

>>73552533
he has been getting radio play recently but i understand that you even haven't seen this happen yet or are just to used to him not being popular

>>73561414
This

>>73561414
Imagine being this gay

>>73561414
I don't mind the hi hats. It's the repetitive fucking lean, bitches drugs and does lyrical content that I'm sick of. Something has gotta give. I consider myself a true hip hop head and 90% of this trap stuff is pure fucking trash.

>>73562245
read a book dummy

>>73562245
Yikes. Try again

>>73562290
>>73562264
?

>>73562184
He's right tho

>>73562394
they're just nu-/mu/ ignore them

>>73562423
Fair enough.