Why is IDM so poorly rated? Not one album above 4 Meanwhile,

Normies can't appreciate the genius of IDM

>>73310804
>>73310812
>""""IDM""""

It's just clicks and clacks m8

>>73310804
RYM has skewed review scores. Its only real use is to find out the general standouts of particular genres or artists.

>Boards of Canada
This shit is boring af admit it

>>73310804
>2017
>Caring about rym

idm bros are elitist and pretentious; hip hop heads worship idols

>>73310972
Yet they still listen to just techno with a few amen breaks lmao

Never, ever trust RYM ratings. It's mostly old men that dont enjoy music anymore that uses that page.

>>73310849
BoC is transcendental

>>73310994
Or they have used a sampler atleast one time in their life.

>>73310804

hmmm, I don't know, maybe because the RYM userbase considers hip-hop to have produced works of greater magnitude than the genre of IDM? just a theory...

BoC is excellent but Aphex is literally random bleeps and bloops

this isn't poorly rated

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>>73311135
Huge pleb alert

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https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/Iai/rating1160330

>>73310804
>expecting rym to properly rate anything from electronic genres outside of the most basic essentials
also Flying Lotus would never be considered "IDM" or whatever if he didn't release on Warp. RYM's electronic genre rankings and taggings are fucked.
>>73311135
>>73310849
they're both great ya nincompoops

>>73310804
Ambient techno
Downtempo
Downtempo
Techno/jungle
Hip hop

>RYM
Not even once

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>>73311135
>literally random

>>73311333
This post is embarrassing

>>73311333
>>73311330
Why are pardners so obsessed with labelling all bleeps either EDM or IDM?

>>73311358
*factual

>>73310849
More like BOREDs of Canada
Just kidding I really like them

>>73311330
Yeah, RYM is almost always a little off with their genre tags

>>73311359
IDM = patrician real music fans
EDM = normies, Chad and girls

Electronic music in general is rated poorly on RYM. Hell, IDM is actually rated really high relative to other electronic genres.

>>73311436
>IDM
>genre

Define it, musically.

>>73311458

Stockhausen for plebs

>>73311458
Avant-garde electronic

>>73311476
lol that actually works well

>>73310804
we're not far enough into the future yet

>>73311431
I would literally punch him in the face if some guy told me he listens to ''Intelligent Dance Music'', what fucking pretentiousness

>>73311483
*Stockhausen rolls in grave*

Geogaddi is so much better than MHTRTC.. RYM wtf

Reminder that IDM is literally bleeps for ADHD kids who can't get into actual bleep music and clueless rockists

>>73311458
I don't have to. I'm saying if it has the IDM tag on RYM, it's likely to have a higher score than the average release tagged house or techno or jungle or whatever else.

I don't know why IDM is almost always the average internet rock music nerd's entry-way into electronic music. I guess because it's more conceptual. Plain dance genres probably seem too similar to pop music in their function.

>>73311483

bahahahahhaaahahhaahh

>>73311431
>>73311476
>>73311504
>>73311512
I mean, yeah, the "IDM" label is objectively pretentious as fuck and gets misused a lot, but is it not fair to say that artists like Aphex Twin or Squarepusher are practically in another genre above artists like Skrillex or The Chainsmokers? Obviously the former's output is a hell of a lot more complex.

>>73310804
Something that appeals to a wider audience and is solid is going to be more appreciated and highly praised then an album that's genre appeals to what is now a more niche demographic.

>>73311576
Yeah, coming from verse-chorus-verse 4 chord pop/rock about having no gf rocktards need something with a bit of complexity and skill

>>73311593
>practically in another genre
True, but that genre isn't "IDM".

>>73311593
They aren't the same genre, aphex and Squarepusher are techno/breaks, skrillex is brostep and chainsmokers are house

No need for dumb EDM/IDM bullshit

Aphex Twin is braindance. Boards of Canada are chill step. The Orb is Post-Floyd house.

>>73310841
This.
albumoftheyear is better for reviews

>>73311333
RDJ album is not jungle in the slightest

If IDM was a real thing Orbital would be considered IDM

>>73311593

>muh complexity

>>73311734
Why? They make techno?

Even Autechre said "we just make dance music".

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>>73310804
sorry mate but you don't get to be this condescending to hip hop when the genre your arguing for is almost universally considered an assortment of bleep and bloop sounds :/

All bleeps fall under one of these main genres, sometimes multiple, there's no need for """EDM/IDM"""

Techno
House
Breaks
Trance
UKGarage
Downtempo

>>73311806
>ukg

why not just "garage" which ukg ultimately falls under?

>>73311902
If you don't put "UK" pardners go on about some geetah music sub, sub, subgenre

>>73311939
no idea wtf this post means but yh nice one mate.

>>73311554
>rave music
I'd rather listen to orangutan farts

>>73312082
Autechre were "rave" musicians.

>>73312082
Are you literally retarded

>>73311806
what about electro and EBM

>>73312126
Electro is just proto-techno.

>>73312149
Suck my fat hairy cock

>>73312178
Juan went on to make regular techno and contemporary electro like DMX Krew, Anthony Rotherand DJs such asDave Clarke all cross the boundaries with techno.

>>73312082
Pleb

>>73310804
>inteligent dance music

Inteligent people dont listen to music

>>73311806
okay, if you want to collapse everything with a damn breakbeat in it into "breaks" fair enough (though that seems mental to me) but where does Gabber fit into this paradigm?

Or Grime? Dubstep? Footwork? Trap?

>>73311330
I'd call most of Flyo Trip Hop or Future Jazz (the latter being more of a meme term).

>>73311648
then what is it

whats the use of genres? to be useful. idm is useful as a genre therefore idm is a real genre

>>73310804
odd, I thought internet dorks loved IDM. compare those scores to literally any genre of non-"intelligent" dance music and you'll find that they're actually pretty high. Quadrant Dub only has a 3.8 for fuck's sake, and most great stuff only gets a handful of ratings or isn't even added to the database. i'd say IDM is actually one of the genres RYM grossly overrates

>>73311667
>Is ok to sub divide dubstep into 'brostep', but refuses to acknowledge IDM to differentiate standard techno with Aphex Twin even though he clearly sits outside of traditional techno/breaks.

Can we settle for ambient techno/fedoratronica?

>>73311756
Thats nice and all, but Mogwai, GYBE, Talk Talk, DMST say they just make rock music.

They are saying that with a touch of rebellion.

>>73310804
IDM is the newbie trap of bleeps. If you see anyone rate anyone from the IDM clique highly, you can tell right away that they're new to the genre or just don't understand it.

>>73310804
normies don't like IDM and its mostly white people who review albums.
white people hate their own "culture" and listen to black people music to seem hip and cool

Rym is not really good for comparing albums across genres due to the way people rate things. For example, metal albums and albums from the 70s will always be rated a bit higher than they deserve since there's a set of people who only rate metal albums or only rate albums from the 70s. It is better to use rym rankings to help you find th most highly regarded albums within a specific genre rather than across genres.

>>73311693
why no replies, this is 8/10 bait

>>73314326
Grime is an amalgamation of dnb/dubstep/garage, so yeah i'd definately agree and give it it's own genre.

Same with dubstep.

Trap would fall under house or hiphop as it takes huge influence from future house and rap beats.

But thats just me. All of this discussion of genres only gives credence to the idea of IDM.

On another note, is such a thing as good techno that isn't john hopkins? I see the average techno track (thinking the hard ous ous ous) as the metal core or DNB of eletronic stuff, its generally for the proto neckbeards of that music. Heaps of crappy lo-fi home made youtube cuts for guys with oversize genes with frosted fringes.

Gabba is techno.

>>73312149
*unsheaths katana*
........... say that again kid .......................

>>73314512
Dubstep is garage

>>73314443
Rock is a genre, "dance music" isn't.

>>73314512
>All of this discussion of genres only gives credence to the idea of IDM.

I'd say the opposite as it shows all those who get labelled IDM make different music.

>>73314512
>dubstep

how the hell does grime derive anything from dubstep? are memeing?

>>73314706
*you

>>73310820
what genres would these fall under then? honestly curious because I am newfag

>>73310849
Ngl after getting into idm and techno shit boc doesn't hold up in comparison to everything else. I still like them tho, geogaddi stands well above the rest of their discography.
>>73311135
Afx is entry level idm and filler mostly

>>73311330
Eh Los Angeles sounds a little idem influenced.

>>73311458
Early on I'd just say it's another name for experimental techno

Now, just any beat based experimental electronic music that doesn't fit well enough into another genre (a useless term)

>>73312393
>>73312118
Rave music is objectively of lesser quality than literally any other electronic genre.

>>73314512
Yeah, there's fuck-tons of great techno out there that isn't Jon Hopkins, Want to here something different check out Luke's Anger, or Lakker, or Swarm Intellegence, or Laurent Garnier, Terence Fixmer, or Legowelt or check out some of the stuff that's out recently on Houndstooth. If you want to go deep theres always Villalobos and all that stuff. Better still, so see it being played in a club with a good sound system.

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>>73315218
"Objectively"

>>73310804
You could only do so much with synths, bleeps, and bloops

With Hip Hop you could rap over any instrumental and use several flows and rhyme schemes. It's a constantly evolving genre while IDM will always use the same machines and techniques they always have, no matter what else you mix it with.

>>73314600
I don't like IDM because its not very descriptive, someone links something, tells you its IDM, you've no idea what you're letting yourself in for. "Braindance" could be a genre though, if people used the term correctly.

>>73315252
QUALITY BAIT GOd DAMN

>>73315252
>Implying that electronic music production hardware and software isn't constantly evolving.

>>73315293
Their not, English and every other language is constantly gaining new slang and reinterpretations of linguistics, there's not really any comparison

Why are /bleep/ heads so concerned over the IDM genre tag? As if it makes other genres dumb or something so they have to project their insecurities over it.

I swear they are the SJWs of the music world.

>>73315368
Plz stop baiting I'm tired of watching these poor fools reply to you

>>73315271
Braindance is basically the glitchy acid electro RDJ and people like Jodey Kendrick produce.

>>73310804
RYM is literally the rockist equivalent to Discogs.

If you want electronic music recs just use Discogs.